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I know that the fags here want people to leave them alone AND i get that. If you are gay, thats your own thing right? I agree. But at the same time we need to talk about PrEP. You arent eradicating HIV/AIDS by using prep. What you are essentially doing is making HIV more powerful. And essentially the next HIV strain will bypass the current PrEP medication available. Which is will lead to an even more dangerous form of HIV/AIDS. PrEP is actually incredibly selfish, because you are making HIV more powerful, just because you want more enjoyable sex. Do you understand that? Stop using it.
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Are there actually prep resistant strains of hiv floating around?
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>>40894076
i dont understand why we haven't eradicated HIV yet. we have medications that reduce viral load to zero and medications that prevent you from catching it. the last new case of HIV should have been years ago.
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>>40894076
source?

>>40894101
this
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>>40894076
i can tell you're a buttmad cisgay because you thought that post was saying "stop using prep" instead of "stop being an insatiable sex addict who takes 1000 unique dicks in a month"
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every generation repeats the mistakes of the previous, whatever
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prep works by reducing the viruses ability to replicate itself. less virus means less chance for mutations. in a fast mutating virus, more copies of that virus means more chances for it to randomly evolve strains that are PREP resistant. so people taking PREP is probably making it less likely for HIV to mutate.

the issue with antibiotics resistance is because bacteria are routinely not exposed to enough antibiotic to kill them all. could be improper prescribing, or not finishing doses, or antibiotics leeching into the environment, etc. it provides a small pressure that bacteria adapt to by nudging the population towards those more resistant. unlike PREP where it just reduces the population of that virus flatly.
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>>40894101
>Are there actually prep resistant strains of hiv floating around?
Yes. It's still rare, for now.

>>40894413
> so people taking PREP is probably making it less likely for HIV to mutate.
...which is counterbalanced by people on PREP doing behaving in insanely risky ways again.
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will fags ever learn
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>>40894110
It's like playing whack-a-mole such that i HIV is always gestating and mutating somewhere in the world at any one time. Think about how the public have chimped out over basic disease prevention measures over covid, now imagine trying to institute the same but it means no sex for 3 months and it's retarded coked-up club queers you're trying to persuade to comply with it.
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>>40894076
Ok but what if you just don't have sex with infected people
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>>40894696
The act of risky sex does not make the HIV within someone mutate faster anon. Since Undetectable = Untransmittable someone on prep is also not spreading HIV to people who aren't on prep where the virus can mutate.
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>>40894076
this is why I take enough estrogen to nuke my libido sex is gross degenerate and disease ridden whether faggot or straight
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>>40895026
This is the clearpill. I want a gf that just cuddles.
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>>40894696
[citation needed]
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>>40894696
the trvke you don't want to hear is that those people taking prep would be behaving in the exact same manner if it didn't exist or wasn't available for them. It's better that those pozed in spirit homos be on prep because anyways
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>>40894413
This, OP is lying.

Also, thank you based gays for sacrificing your health and lives to inspire some of the most significant advances in virology and pharmacology in human history.
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>>40894912
>now imagine trying to institute the same but it means no sex for 3 months and it's retarded coked-up club queers you're trying to persuade to comply with it
this just makes me wonder why we shouldn't just let the AIDS kill them all
anti-PrEP for a whole new reason
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>>40894101
no but apparently it *might* be possible, here's a literature review
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40265-019-01108-x
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>>40895003
Risky and improper antiviral use however unquestionably does. Don't forget HIV's ability to recombine when you have more than one strain in a person as well. This still requires a breakout of course, which is why it's rare..

>>40896757
From 6 years ago, and you notice that study only covers one vector of drug resistance. The main vector is still simple long term survival of HIV+ people, particularly people who aren't reliable with their drugs or monitoring properly. Every single drug in use for PREP has a resistant strain now, which is fortunately rare in the wild.

It's a big reason why we've changed protocols for HIV+ pregnant women in africa for example.
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>>40894928
That's a good one. Even at the height of the AIDS crisis you couldn't get people to do that.

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>>40895110
Technically, having the people fucking die changes their behavior.
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>>40896639
>Whole new reason
Inaccurate
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>that feel when ill be fine if an aggressive incurable form of aids appears cause im a gay virgin who will never get laid
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>>40894101
Yes. Use a fucking condom you slut.
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>>40894076
its been proven that HIV doesn't cause AIDS anyway, it is a spontaneous mutation.
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>>40894076
How likely are you to get an STD when having gay sex? I'm something of a newbie at being gay and I want to meet up with this guy so he can cum on my face but I don't want to get aids.
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>>40898617
Incredibly high. More if you're a catcher. Number of partners matters. Sex act matters. Precaution matters.

Oral sex is relatively low risk for aids, but there's no substitute for being monogamous with a monagamous, clean partner.
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>>40894110
>>40894912
Even if you could get poz seeking popper pigs in line, there's still fucking Africa. There's still countries there with above a 25 percent adult HIV rate, quite a few above 10 percent, and a few more which probably should be on the list but are too fucked up to test properly.
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>>40894076
>just stop taking the drug that prevents the gaykiller 10000 virus bro
>I'm totally on your side btw ;)

I'm not getting railed by 15 guys a week. I just don't like rolling the dice. Stonetoss' meme doesn't make any sense because heterosexual people are no more immune than gay people. Literally the entire reason why the HIV awareness movement got any traction is because there were a couple high profile cases of Precious Single and Fertile White Women got it which terrified the elite. Only after it was clear women could get it too and kill us all then people started to care, and eventually prep was invented.

So go away you disingenuous fuck.
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>>40898693
they don't have the same type of HIV as fags in the west.Whites are immune to the worst of it
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>>40898669

And monogamy is not a feature of male homosexual relationships. Not in the long term, over intervals of more than five years. For the gay man, monogamy itself is the novelty. And this novelty wears off, fairly quickly.
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>>40894076
Why are you taking medical advice from a literal who random retard bluecheck on Xitter?
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>>40898753
With the number of sub saharan african immigrants into europe and HIV's ability to recombine when you have two infections at the same time, I woudn't be so confident that this holds.
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>>40898059
tons of people died during the aids crisis, history is dimmed once again to repeat itself
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>>40894076
>stop trying to protect yourself
Fuck off nigger.



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