i recently started feeling like i may be agender so i went to the subreddit for it.tell me why it is almost all afabs that say they still feel a connection to their afabness. not a single mention of any severe sex dysphoria, all social.my thing is the exact opposite, i have a shitload of sex dysphoria, but not much social dysphoria besides being treated like a man.fuck it maybe im just another run of the mill tranny who thinks theyre different
>>40898786Being agender isn't real, you're a retard who went to a space for retards and found retards and you are now surprised
>>40898806insightful, thank you
>>40898786>being treated like a manthat sounds like you are excplicitly not a man nona. in other words a tranny...
>>40898839well yeah im a tranny as in transsexual and on estrogen, but not sure if im a tranny as in i identify with the term "woman"
>>40898786what is "agender" and how do you "feel" it?you mean you dont like the color pink or the color blue?
>>40898851I think youre gender is autistic
>>40898786Sounds like you dissociate. I disassociated constantly to cope; I barely remember the ages of 12-20.
>>40898864i dont feel much connection to any gendered terms, they all sound wrong in the cases where ive girlmoded or boymodedbut that may just be that i dont like being clocky in girlmode and it makes me uncomfortable.i also dont care for social mannerisms of either gender, i just act how i act, which is some male and female traits, which i dont care to change>>40898875maybe>>40898879damn i thought my dissociation was all gone after i started hrt a few years ago. that sucks
>>40898875*your fuck the english language
>>40898924Yea, I thought my dissociation went away, too. Went to a psychologist, definitely hasn't been fully dealt with kek.
>>40899061probably for the best if i keep dissociating then
>>40899235If you continue to dissociate, you'll only be left with numbness. Get some therapy, babes.
>>40899332i dont believe in therapy
>>40898786hi anoni'm mtf and use they/them pronouns and usually tell people some version of "i'm agender" but catered to the audience in questioni don't have genital dysphoria but i do have dysphoria about my secondary sexual characteristics and not passing etc.with that said, being called a man or he/him obviously sucks, so i don't want that... but being called a woman or she/her is just a reminder shoved in my face that i am not a real woman and that just hurts tooso i go on neutrally... drifting in some in-between space. the dysphoria is there, probably always will be, because i will never 'actually' be 100% a woman, but maybe one day if i voice train, learn to do my makeup and finish laser hair removal i could have a chance at passing a little... low-key i'm kind of pretty now i think, and i do pass sometimes, until i talk... but i still really like they/them because then i just don't have to think about the fact that i'm trans throughout the day and can just go about my business.
>>40899557besides the lack of genital dysphoria, real. but i dont really mind my voice to be honest, and having to constantly put in effort to sound like a woman doesnt sound worth the effort anyway. avoiding having to think about being trans every time someone refers to me does sound pretty sweet. i think i will come out as agender.my ultimate dream is to be a cis woman, but that wont ever happen, so this is the next best thing, better than being out as a trans woman.
>>40899608i mean.. people still assume i'm a trans woman, and i am, like.. medically speaking. but i cope with not 100% passing and not wanting to be reminded of it by using they/them pronouns and having 'agender' as more of a social identityi'm a bit of an alien anyway, a hermit, on the outskirts of society, so it's not like i have some sort of gender role in a society i don't participate in
>>40899631in my years of transitioning, no one has ever thought i was a trans woman besides when i am out, so i think i will be fine on that frontand the hermit thing is true yeahcalling myself agender to people sounds way easier than being a clocky trans woman, the year i went away from home and was out as trans was absolute hell for my mental state
>>40899681oh are you like fully "man moding"?i have big enough boobs and look feminine enough that it's pretty clear i'm not a cis guy so i don't really have that option anymore(about 5 years hrt)it depends on where you live, too. i am in a fairly 'safe' place for trans people, not that any true safe place actually exists right now
>>40898786"Feeling like a gender" is a hilarious supposition by AFaBs.
>>40899731i wouldnt call it manmoding, i don't look like a man per semy boobs arent that big and i wear baggy hoodies and pants all the time, i either get gendered as cis guy or rarely cis girl (when i had longer hair) when i go out, and i dont live in a safe place for trans people, so it could just be lack of awareness as to what a boymoder is
>>40899765>i wear baggy hoodies and pants all the timein the summer though? don't get me wrong... i do the same when it's not 30+ degrees out (celcius, i don't use freedom units)
>>40899784yes. at all times. in the rare times i dont have a hoodie on, i slouch to hide my boobs.
Omg ur so special and quirky for being amab!!!
>>40899816fuck you i dont want to be amab
>>40899800damn that sounds rough sorryi just don't pass and don't hide my tits very much idk, i guess i just don't feel unsafe here
>>40898786I don’t really believe it all that nb stuff but I just wish I could take estrogen and dress like a woman without having to change my whole identity I don’t mind being seen as male
>>40900028you can do that though lolyou'll probably be seen as male regardless unless you're very lucky/rich
>>40900028identity isnt fucking real if you dont gaf about being a hon then whats the issue
you may not exactly be agender. you may be "cis-by-default" https://thingofthings.wordpress.com/2015/01/28/cis-by-default/https://slatestarcodex.com/2013/02/18/typical-mind-and-gender-identity/
>>40900083but i still want to take estrogen and look like a woman
>>40900083>https://thingofthings.wordpress.com/2015/01/28/cis-by-default/some of this is true but i still prefer to have estrogen in my body and look like a girl
>>40898786same, it all feels pointless now. Id be okay living as a genderless blob but im still staying on estrogen. If i passed completely maybe things would be different
>not much social dysphoria besides being treated like a man>not sure if im a tranny as in i identify with the term "woman">i also dont care for social mannerisms of either gender, i just act how i act>my ultimate dream is to be a cis womananon i think we may be having sort of parallel experiences although i rationalized my feelings as just being enbyi do not know what being a man or woman is or means and i don't know how anybody else feels, like, connected to their gender or feels gender euphoria or anything like that. i don't know how feel connected to feminine pronouns, though, and i feel sort of that i am de facto a woman bc i look like one and that's how people treat me, and you wouldn't ever usually refer to a woman (whether i "feel" like one or not) with anything but feminine pronounsbut anyways i transitioned bc i wanted a female body, not for any real gendery reasons and it is a weird spot to be in i feel like i can't relate to other trans people (at least as far as gender goes) and i feel like i can't relate to enbies bc i feel like i literally just am a woman by default whether i want to be or not. and i don't NOT want to be, like, i'm okay with it, but i have no internal feelings about gender at all and i don't know where to go with that. i have been hanging out in enbygen lately anyways though even if i feel like a poser or whatever and they have all been very sweetidk what the purpose of this post was i guess i'm just happy to find someone who sort of feels the same as me i love you op i hope you find a community that you feel at home in
>>40900038>>40900069some ppl might assume I want to be a woman tho which would be awful
>>40900610>i don't know how feel connectedomg phoneposting i hate this new iOS feature that fucking like. autocompleted your whole sentence for you immediately when you press the spacebar WHY would i want thatit is supposed to say>i do feel connected
>>40900610i am glad to see someone who feels similarly to me, and yeah the people in enbygen are pretty cool ive been around there recently too
