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it's crazy how being stopped from transitioning at 15/16 really was the end.

like, i just masculinised so fucking much in the time it took for me to get released from the psychiatric hospital that even if i had restarted after then around my 17th birthday (instead of after i turned 18) i still wouldn't have been able to make it. i kept fighting but it was over the day i got institutionalised
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>>40918401
Is it really over that young? Im 18 and I still havent started transitioning yet because I thought I still had time
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>>40918502
desu my ribs were cooked at 16 and that’s the only thing i would change so for some people it’s already over by 18
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>>40918519
ya :'(
Maybe medisine will eventually get good enough for us to deal with that
I dunno
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>>40918502
i'm around 5'11, so the only way someone as tall as me can pass as a cis woman is by having like, the rest of my body compensate.

when i was 15 i still had an extremely tiny frame, i hadn't begun to masculinise at all (i was just weirdly tall). but by the time i was 17 my shoulders and ribcage and skull were just simply bigger than any normal cis woman

i was still very feminine and androgynous looking for a male, but like, cis woman just don't have bodies in my size range. they're just always smaller than me in one way or another. so i'm always going to look fundamentally like a tranny

if you're 5'9 or under it's probably not over at all, unless your body is unusually masculine in some other ways
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>>40918502
also no you don't have any time. start transitioning fucking now. even if it's still possible for you to pass, every month you wait makes your own life strictly worse than it would be otherwise
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>>40918669
same, by 15 *poof* giant shoulders
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>>40918669
fuck my body is already quite masculinized. My ribcage is big and my shoulders are broad as hell. Im exactly 5'9.
>>40918686
If its impossible for me to pass is there even a point? Id just be fucking up my dick without the benefit of atleast looking like a woman.
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>>40918401
god so real, i was so close to transitioning when i was 15, i had some girl friends that were giving me old clothes and teaching me how to do makeup and all that

my mom started calling me a whore for shaving my legs and my best friend started acting like i was a freak for asking her to use different pronouns for me (plus i was also being crazy cause of my family) so i gave up and told myself id be better off just trying to be some guy even if i knew i could never really be a man.

i was also kinda cooked cause i was already 5'11

i am now 23 and just hitting 6 months hrt, maybe ill make it who knows

>>40918502
get on hormones now, what is the point in waiting
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>>40919065
are you shoulders unusually broad for a man? or just broad for a woman? because at 5'9 i don't think that means it's over.

also yes there's a huge point transitioning even if you don't pass. you're dysphoria will only strictly get worse if you don't estrogen and your life will only strictly get worse. everything is worse. there's no benefit to repping.

there's also a huuuuge difference between "i can tell you're trans" and "you look like a man"
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>>40918401
Sophie stfu

Go cry to yer therapist
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>>40919447
how do you know my name is sophie who are you........
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>>40919430
My shoulders are just broad for a woman, I think theyre average for a man. As for estrogen, I really dont want it to screw up my genitals, so I dont see estrogen as worth it if im not gonna get the ability to pass out of it. Its a lose lose sitatuation for me since if I dont take estrogen then ill be unhappy with my body, but if i do take estrogen ill be unhappy with my genitalia and still unhappy with my body since i wouldnt pass. I'd probably look like a man
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>>40919587
if you can pass, the best chance of success is now. 18 REALLY isn't that late

i see people like you get too scared to decide, wait a few days, that turns into months, that turns into 2 years, then suddenly you're 20 and never forgive yourself for waiting

estrogen really doesn't fuck your dick up much. and, i'm gonna be real with you, it changes your sex drive in a way that'll make you care less

this is a doomer ngmi post and estrogen has still made me 10 times happier than i was before i started
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>>40919447
did you think i was the estrogenie/"started at 19" sophie? i'm a different sophie...
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>>40919659
i had a mustache when I was 12 but im slightly twinky in the face (I have really broad shoulders and a big ribcage though). I told myself I'm gonna do it by next valentines day, how do I know if I am fucked.
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>>40919850
why the fuck would you wait half a year? if you've decided to do it you're only making your life worse. start NOW
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>>40919957
Practicality and to make sure I am sane about it. I kinda just wanna start now but I need to be able to drive and have money to pay for it. Is 6 months a long time for this stuff?
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>>40919972
if you're 18, yes (not for everyone but don't risk it).
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>>40920000
How do I know if something is happening, all I've noticed is I am kind of very slowly balding but I am a skinny twink and I'm already skelefucked.
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>>40920009
oh my god if you're starting to bald at 18 then you're in the "6 months might change everything" category. defcon 1. red alert.
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>>40920036
It sort of started when I was like 15, its been gradual and I don't see anything on the crown yet I just have a sadly big forehead. By now I am approximately 4 months out from HRT. I literally can't do much until then so what else am I gonna do?
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>>40920057
ok by 4 months out do you have the appointments booked? i would tell you to diy so 4 months doesn't turn into 6 months or longer with blood tests but if you're committed then i guess it's fine
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>>40920072
4 months is when I would make appointments or order troonshine. I need to come up with a few dollars, rn I am a retarded community college student but there is a job I might be able to work weekends to get money for this. I might ask them if I can start work honestly and just get this over with sooner.
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>>40920118
you need $50 to $100 max you can make that this weekend on craigslist
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>>40920131
you have inspired me, it still might be T- 4 months but at least thats a much more active 4 months now. The good news I am wasian and I seemed to have masculinized early and (but weakly) as we do, but better to not chance it.
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>>40918401
>saved a thumbnail
it didnt even begin



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