Not joking, coming out was the worst decision I ever made but I was young and fell for the propaganda. I now understand why virtually all bisexual men pretend to be straight and are DLI'm now 31 years old with most of my friends being "queer" and virtually no chance of having a wife and family. I'm profoundly disgusted with my "childfree, fat positive" "friends" who I recognize as nihilistic, hedonistic social leeches without any ethics or coherent worldview beyond self indulgence. They didn't accept me because they thought bisexuality is moral, they did so because they don't care about morality (society, nation, future etc.) beyond shallow posturing and gibmedat guberment mindset. I don't want to grow old alone and watch myself rot while only "community" I have are miserable leftists on Prozac who I see once a weekI would even accept a husband who has any sense of honor as man, works out, wants to have a family and is not a walking petri dish of STIs but I literally never found a gay man who fits the bill. At best they are bisexual guys like that but again, they are mostly DL and looking for wivesGetting a decent wife when you're openly bisexual and your friend group are "leftists" is virtually impossible so I'm really stuck here. I don't want to move because I really like my nation and want to contribute to it but unless I leave the country any woman would quickly find out that my friends are "queer" degenerates and would (justifiably) leave me
>>40932541I’m a cis lesbian and in the same boat. Idk what to do about it, but I’ve been considering going back into the closet.
>>40932541Sounds like a larp. Just move cities or something. Nobody is going to assume you‘re bisexual or gay.
Whatchu want a family for? And how will they get taken care of in a dual income household?
>nihilism>hedonism>ethics>coherence of worldview>society>nation>future>moralityMost humans don’t spend their days thinking in any great detail about these subjects. Your sexuality is not holding you back here. Finding a community to discuss the above almost guarantees said community will be full of people who disagree with you on these subjects.>miserable leftists on ProzacYou sound like a faggot.
>>40932541You sound like the worst nglA pessimistic 31 year old who hates everyone around him is confused why he doesn't have a good boyfriend or a better friend group, shocking
>>40932613I‘d still hit that lowkey, depressed bisexual bottoms are cute
>ghettoized by heterosexuals>blame the faggotsyou aint never getting out big bro
>>40932633Absolutely 100% agreed, but besides the point
>>40932541I can just tell from the way you write that you're a really strange person.
>>40932560Yeah but it would be weird to not have straight friends from my hometown to show, sooner or later any girl would find that my former friends were like... a fat leftist who calls children "parasites">>40932574I already have my own home and above average income I think it would be feasible to have a kid>>40932613Actually no one knows this, otherwise I wouldn't be seeking advice on 4chan. I have ton of queer friends because I'm honorable and caring but my patience with them is running thin specifically because they lack the qualities they are drawn towards in me>>40932638I don't blame the faggots for homophobia, I joined the queers because of rejection by straight people when I came out. I have no respect for those kinds of politics either. I just find those politics more sustainable and coming from a place of coherent ethics which is more than I can say for the "lgbt movement" which is just a sexual, nihilistic tentacle of late neoliberalism
>>40932746Your own income? Do you work a lot? If so kids might not be for you, unless youre interested in a nanny or maid.
>>40932759I work from home and my work is project based, meaning that I frequently dick around waiting for my workload Also my mom and dad would love to help out the way they did with my sister's kid and the way my grandparents did when I was youngMy folks are fairly progressive and liberal but in a pro-natalist, big family way that values patriotism, heritage and kids / animals / nature in generalI have nothing in common with most queers / 4th wave feminists / dick choppersIt sounds you're just trying to come up with an excuse why having a kid is impossible
>>40932541You look for an "honourable" man, and one can infer from your post you see yourself as some kind of trad/moral person, and yet you want to adopt a child with another man. You are fucking laughable and Mishima would cut your head off. Go on twitter and larp as trad, get some blown out RW egirl with no sex drive and a princess complex as a wife, such a girl would be a good match for you, both of you would be hypocritical larping retards who regret their past decisions and project their regret onto the world via trad larping.
i might be able to in the winter. but in the warm months i cant hide my tits leg butt etc
>>40932787I don't see myself as "trad" nor do I care about labels like that. I simply reject neoliberal sexual nihilism and want to end up with someone I love and respect in order to raise a family. I spent the past 14 years of my life thinking that it's possible to find a queer man like that or that a decent woman would be open to have it with a bisexual guy but I am disilusioned on both fronts. I never should have come out, in fact I advise every bisexual man not to. There is literally nothing to gain if you do, the "gay community" is just aging twinks doing crystal meth and licking each others HPV ridden shitholes
>>40932597>"Most humans don’t spend their days thinking in any great detail about these subjects."It is based though>"Finding a community to discuss the above almost guarantees said community will be full of people who disagree with you on these subjects."True
>>40932541Yeah but it happened mostly because I cut off almost all friends and haven't attempted to date for 7 years. During that time I was crypto neeting so was completely outside of normal socializing. Now I'm back in work and there is an obvious difference between me and the straight guys. The women there know what I am but I don't feel like coming out.
>>40932560Of course it's a larp. This board is infested with a combination of ironic /pol/-types, demoralization bots, and actual governmental disinformation peddlers
He can't find a gf because he is an insufferable larper. I would shove my head into an oven and turn it on full gas if I had to listen to some Reddit spacing faggot talking about "neo liberalism" in the year 2005 + 20. Nigga, you'll find the right woman when it's time. Get with an ugly or fat girl and she will love you
>>40932849How exactly am I supposed to prove I'm not a shill or whatever? Name gay porn actors? Favorite drag queens?All my straight colleagues are happy and have families they're raising and forming meaningful relationships with. I have nothing, I wasted my youth and looks and now have only 45 years of lonely decay to look forward to.Every "relationship" I had with a gay man was the same - first 6-12 months were happy due to chemical infatuation after which they'd get bored due to lack of dopamine and wanted to "open the relationship" because the sex "got stale" and few months or years later they would fully regress to spending their free time looking for hookups and drugs as we live like sexless, loveless roomates. If I refused to open the relationship it would end up with a break up because by the time they're even willing to consider the idea they're already essentially over it
>>40932976Gay dating sounds bleak, makes me glad to be a tranny.
>>40933002Tranny dating sounds like hell too, very very very very few worthy men would openly date a trans woman.
>>40932541yuki <3
>>40933290I‘m a ftm who‘s mainly interested in other ftms, therefore it‘s not a real issue. I get really attached to them, even more so as time goes on. Would never open the relationship ever
>>40932976as a fellow boomer, your straight colleagues are happy - for now, one of my friends last night just said hes getting a divorce in his early 30s, just because your straight doesn't mean it all works out either imagine buying a house with your wife and kids and then separating and having the government divvy up your belongings and tell you who the kid is living with
>>40932976You're failing the vibe check essentiallyYou parrot /pol/ talking points about gay relationships, you parrot /pol/ talking points about "traditional" relationships, you dogwhistle about demographic (read: white) decline, you jump to drag shows and gay porn when confronted (classic /pol/ brainworms), and you refuse to acknowledge there are many gay and bisexual men who have perfectly fine relationships while simultaneously implying and asserting that every heterosexual relationship is balanced, exclusively monogamous, and not influenced by drugs/alcohol.Everything you type looks and sounds like a /pol/ type projecting what they would assume what an openly bisexual man who is disgruntled with left wing ID politics would say.
>>40934038My thoughts exactly. Also all the namecalling is word for word /pol/ shit lol he's practically about to start saying fags eat the poopoo. Anyone who actually hated fags this much would've cut them out of their friend group long agoIt's a weird larp so I'm guessing it's some kind of repressing fag
>>40934038Literally none of what you said is an actual argument, I don't give a shit about your "vibes" or whatever retarded politics you're into. I'm not using "dogwhistles", nor do I give a shit about dancing around my disgust for neoliberal politics that result in "multiculturalism" (but only for states, corporations don't tolerate corporate culture diversity because they know its detrimental and every collective needs cultural unity to prosper) I'm talking from my own lived experiences and if it is what /pol is saying then it is completely correct. You should pretend you didn't see this post like most "queers" here because it doesn't go with the narrative and hope it will get burried by lies trying to get young lgbt people to ruin their lives for nothing
>>40932976>>40934038Dont listen to this lunatic.What you're saying is perfectly reasonable and I'm in the same boat. I'm libertarian/right wing and I share your struggles, And I see how rare it is for people like us to find like-minded people. We can be friends if you want :3
>>40934193I exist, anon. I share your view points. The things is that I keep my beliefs to myself, my sexuality to myself. Everyone thinks I'm a normal guy.
>>40934038>Everything you type looks and sounds like a /pol/ type projecting what they would assume what an openly bisexual man who is disgruntled with left wing ID politics would say.Half of the entire board is literally just this. It's like a creative writing forum for chud to come practice role playing as a fucking character. I don't know how autistic they have to be to not realize other people are also sentient and can pick up on shit like this. Are they just trying to normalize certain talking points in front of lurkers or something?
>>40934038he could just be an unironic /pol/cel and this is just how he knows how to express himself. being involved with women is the primary way most men get groomed out of stupid brainworms like this, gay/bi men dont have that pressure and can get kinda weird.
>>40934193Whatever you want to believe anon>>40934195>>40934217Sock puppets>>40934227I really doubt anything about this thread topic or poster is real. >>40934221>Are they just trying to normalize certain talking points in front of lurkers or something?Yes, that is explicitly the goal. I've watched in real time arguments against LGBT rights (and civil rights in general) like this thread get pushed over the last decade from this site into the mainstream. See vid related for a better explanation on how this has worked. It's specifically about the stupid Bored Ape NFT but the lessons learned and principles involved regarding accelerationists and white supremacist types are still very much relevant>https://youtu.be/XpH3O6mnZvw?si=ZV0nDGYiW3qecNPR
>>40934282>Sock puppetsI just don't want to debate with you because you're a cultist and no matter what I say, you'll keep getting emotional and entitled, like all leftists.>>40934193Anon, I think like you and I wanna be your friend
>>40934195<3>>40934227>>40934221>>40934282You're quite literally proving my point. If there was a such a thing as a lgbt "community" it would care about its members even when they are criticizing its (objectively big) problems. But nope, you're simply choosing to namecall and reject everyone who opposes the dogma.I could provide a fucking video of like 15 year old me jacking off to Brent Everett and Brent Corrigan fucking and still wouldn't be enough to prove I'm a REAL QUEER or whatever because its not about same sex attraction at all, its about anti-natalist, anti-family neoliberal dogma. Virtually every bisexual guy over 30 would be able to confirm what I said and abject failure of "homosexual lifestyle" resulting in alcoholism, drug addiction, serious health issues, early death, suicide etc. is welll documented but anyone who endangers the propaganda is a "Russian bot" or whateverI wish I was never stupid enough to even acknowledge let alone "join the lgbt community" by coming out
>>40934501>>40934396I know they're sock puppets because you are pretending to be two different people but your responses here are both continuing the same arguments from the posts you madeYou're really bad at the pretending to be multiple people to give the illusion that your beliefs are more widespread than they actually are
>>40934396>>40934501>maybe larping an anime character like an autistic undersocialized retard will help me save face after being called out for my bullshitmaybe killing yourself would help you feel better you absolute fucking meatball lmao
>>40934532I'm actually a Russian bot, Kremlin sent me to undermine the lgbt board on 4chan. Originally they wanted me to mention Jesse Santana and Adam Killian and their pup play but Xi was against it because he felt Brent Everett had more credibility as he was more popular in early 2000s
>>40932559All women are bisexual, lesbians don't exist, just date a twink.
>>40932976>>40932541Gay men suck i agreeUnless they take hrt or are bisexual, then they are based asfI think the main issue here is u are a based bisexual trying to date gay people, it will never work because they all love sex and drugs and hedonismBisexuals (and trannies that aren't annoying) are great, maybe you should date a tranny that wants to build a respectable life with a stand up man.
>>40934501You and I know we're two different people.Leave these morons argue. They won't change their views, they will believe they have the moral high ground. Just don't reply to them and don't even read them so you can have the satisfaction of having the last word.
>>40934556I made my point. You can keep doing your astroturfing if you want, not like I could really stop you. I just want other people to know how you operate on here
>>40934583>half-hearted bait to bump a slow thread(You)
>>40934684Disprove it.
>>40934694So men are either almost-straight or almost-gay but women are 50/50 bisexual. Interesting.
