>>40941660
dont date girls with naturally brown hair
the rest? just deal with it
i always thought all my gfs look like guys when i looked at their backs but i have never actually seen a cis womans back XD

>>40941660
:|

There was a thread about this yesterday
>>40925843
it kinda hit in all th wrong places for me.

>>40941660
Be bi. You're dating a tranny. If you're having these moments of discomfort you should stick to cis women.
Beard shadow is a turn off but it's not like I wake up next to a girl in the rough of the morning and see that she is in fact a tranny and am disturbed. If you are you're in the wrong place.

>>40941993
This thread makes me wanna rope

the feet always give it away

>>40941660
my pcos ex was unironically more masc than my lovely trans gf, she even had a little snail trail on her tummy and a little moustache. She was still really pretty and I wish I treated her better but I had no self awareness at the time and hadn't done any therapy. My girlfriend now though? She's beautiful, and wonderful! If she's ever got a little stubble it's just fuzzes. It doesn't phase me, I never point it out, if she tells me she's insecure about it I just reassure her it's no biggie to me and she's adorable and if she has more boundaries at that times or if she wants to go sort it out that's ok too! Love that girl to bits. If I was with a more masc trans girl and I loved her I'd probably just feel similarly. I've tried to perceive my girl as the guy I used to know her as just cause it's come up in conversation sometimes but it's really difficult. I think once you've got that much estrogen in you and you've put some effort into becoming more feminine its just a done deal. Even when she puts on the silly voices idk, there's no point at which I'm seeing her as a guy any more. Occasionally I'll think about how things were back when we were friends pre transition. And like that's kind of just a lovely thought. Cause this person who I already loved dearly as a friend became who she wanted to be, and idk it just makes me think of how far she's come and it's just wonderful that the human body is capable of such a transformation. Maybe think about that, and stop seeing people as objects or categories and try to reckon with the person infront of you as they are and see the beauty in that

>>40943025
You're bi right?

>>40942065
You've no idea how huge the f difference is between being bi and being straight. You can't just decide.. In gonna be bi from now on, straight revulsion at the idea of being with a male no more.. poof... It's gone.

>>40941993
The guy in that thread was just so honest. Never read anything like it.

>>40941660
You can't turn a male body into a female body. People will always notice, whether subtly or overtly. Anyone telling you that you pass is just trying to make you feel better, because they fancy themselves as a "good person" and don't realize what they are doing is causing harm and deluding you. It's disingenuous and they are part of the problem. I am sorry the world has lied to you and convinced you this was "a thing", it's not, you will never pass and you will never be a woman. I am sorry for all the things you have done to yourself pursuing this dead end. I have no advice on what to do next but I don't think you should kill yourself. Make it your mission to stop someone else from doing this to themselves. Make it your mission to sue and destroy every institution and media property that contributed to your self-destruction: it is, and always was, wrong. Give your damaged life meaning.

>>40942860
what're you trying to say? breaking the grippers out was a no-no?

>>40943440
>yap yap deluding yap yap disingenuous yap yap ywnbaw
ever heard of stealth sex? cope and seethe further retard

>>40943457
>cope and seethe
Sorry anon, I accepted my body and nature many many many years ago

>>40943461
and yet you come to this board and post gc grifter slop

>>40943465
> and yet you come to this board and post gc grifter slop
Do you mind posting in English at least. Need to know just how idiotic this flame war is.

>>40943465
>and yet you come to this board and post gc grifter slop
I have no idea what that means and this is my first time on this board because I accidentally went to the homepage which I NEVER do and realized there's an LGBT board
I won't be back
>Dial8
>Dial8
>Dial8

>>40943469
Nona already btfo you with the stealth sex comment. The chuds lost. We aren't disclosing anymore, and are fucking men hotter than you when we do it.

You live in our world now, chud, and there's only one way out.

>>40943490
There a certain percentage of any community that lives in some kind of echo chamber and thinks they're Vogue for some reason.
Doesn't represent everyone.
You can stay and ignore the flame warriors. Up to you.

>>40943440
Isn't there an age where youre young enough though?

I have seen transition in early teens in a couple of cases.

Older ones do need huge amounts of make up, it feels really weird and deceptive and in the end just seems like another form of homosexuality.

>one night stands with drunk high strangers makes you a woman
uh okay. Sacred Mother of God!

>>40941679
>dont date girls with naturally brown hair
wtf?

>>40941679
>i always thought all my gfs look like guys when i looked at their backs but i have never actually seen a cis womans back XD
You're gay, this question doesn't apply to you really does it

>>40941660
Men who are mentally ill dressed as women, pass or not make everyone uncomfortable.

>>40945169
>>40945169
>everyone
>every
>one
?
>me
ok gotcha.

>>40941660
by not dating hons who are so early in their transition that they haven't even had laser/electro yet???
>>40943440
you don't sound smart regurgitating this generic slop dude, you're just outing yourself as a retard with an extremely surface level understanding of this entire issue

>>40945266
>you don't sound smart regurgitating this generic slop dude, you're just outing yourself as a retard with an extremely surface level understanding of this entire issue
That dude is actually rational which 94 percent of the people who engage with this are not.

>>40945266
>by not dating hons who are so early in their transition that they haven't even had laser/electro yet???
oh youre really beautiful, can I have your number, by the way can you tell me have you had electro or laser, just to be sure, you know...
Retarded

>>40945335
It was literally just the standard concern trolling with zero actual substance
>>40945402
Electro/laser is something trannies with self-awareness typically do in the boymoder stage, so they most likely aren't gonna be really beautiful if they haven't had it

>>40945475
>It was literally just the standard concern trolling with zero actual substance
>>40943440
>You can't turn a male body into a female body.

No its not concern trolling its basic biological fact - something 97 percent of the charlatans who engage with this are incapable of acknowledging.

>>40945475
>Electro/laser is something trannies with self-awareness typically do in the boymoder stage
no it isn't. they shave just like any other male. the hair grows back hours later.

>>40941660
Straights should not date trannies

>>40945625
the fact that you can't go from xy to xx is a fact yeah, I don't think that's very contested here. That doesn't support the rest of his "argument" at all
>>40945630
Why would a tranny ever willingly choose to endure one of the most disgusting and dysphoria-inducing things ever for any longer than necessary when a permanent fix is available and affordable?

>>40945763
I'm a tranny who hasn't had electro and shaves every day. It's because electro requires you to grow out your beard every session and takes years to complete

Maybe I'm an idiot, but the idea of having a beard for the next 2-3 years is honestly way more dysphoria for me than shaving for 5 minutes alongside my other skincare stuff

I did do laser to get rid of shadow, but I'm blonde so it was never going to remove most of it

>>40945837
it shouldn't require a beard or take that long unless you got super unlucky and have a ton, sorry you had trouble with laser though. It sucks to wear a mask all day but it can protect your sanity if you have to go a day or two without shaving before a session

>>40945926
Hmm yeah, it's possible I got unlucky. But you do need to grow out your facial hair so that the electrologist can zap the follicle and then remove with tweezers, so you do kinda need a beard?

I did ~20 hours of electro last year and she was only able to clear about the size of a nickel (the coin) from my chin, and she told me it'd be ~300 for the whole face and neck and whatnot. Waaay too much

>>40945988
I know ftm whore who did that to his whole body. He did not like the hair. It costs like 10k

>>40946000
It's expensive! Money isn't an issue for me and I could manage the pain itself. It's just the beard dysphoria, idk I don't want to be a bearded lady for the next 3 years lmao hope my future chaser bf can accept that I need to shave, but oh well if not

>>40941660
pic not related? she is insanely hot

my bf pointed out that i have hair on my lower back in a nice way and offered to shave it for me and i wanted to kill myself

>>40946046
how on earth could you not know you have hair on your back

>>40942860
the hands also - but not in an unpleasant way

>>40943025
nice ideas but
biology gets in the way. biology always wins.

>>40943461
>Sorry anon, I accepted my body and nature many many many years ago
well done anon.