Has any non-passing mtf here tried to just be a beautiful man instead?
passing is a myth
>>40942627no it just resulted in me looking uncanny and the liberals in my area clocking me as a faggot
>>40942627im trying and it makes me want to kill myself
>>40942638Is uncanny pretty man not better than to just be a tranny?
>>40942650id rather look like an uncanny woman than an uncanny mannormies understand trans people in so far as "that man wants to be a woman" but they do not understand "i am a man who chemically castrates himself but i am NOT trans or a woman"
i pass (i am pretty sure) but this is slowly becoming the ultimate goal of my transition as i realize i am probably more enby than woman desuif i can get keyhole, i want to get top surgery someday and just be an ethereally beautiful man. i think i would really like that
>>40942627I cant, i just look like some teenager
>>40942675>>40942675Incredibly based
>>40942688thank you nonny. i know it's the whole point of your thread but the affirmation does mean a lot <3
>>40942675If you have aa you can get keyhole. Large a or any larger than that and thats not an option anymore.
>>40942627that's kinda the point of manmoding, yeah.
>>40942716D :( oh well. i kinda figured it wouldn't be possible but i was holding out hope in ignorance...i wasn't aware the size restriction was so small.i've not really done any research into it; how come they can't just pull it all out through the hole? that seems like something that should be easy but i'm sure there's a reason.>anymorei also didn't realize this was once possible. i will have to do some reading
>>40942627I did before hrt. Was a gorgeous man. Now I'm unpassing but people just read me as a really really beautiful man. The way my body is proportioned is so androgynous at this point that I can kind of slip into twinkhon mode or anime boy mode at will based on dress sense and stuff. I lamented this for a while, but I think so much of the pain of not passing was narratives I picked up from elsewhere. I don't fit the most sanitized narrative of a trutrans and I never will, that just wasn't me. If those people ever want me to feel ashamed because of that, that's their problem and not mine. I like how I am, I like how my body is, I like being androgynous, I needed hrt to remain this androgynous. I like how I get to be in society, I'm not any stereotype you could possibly ascribe to me. I like who I am in relationships these days. I like who I am interpersonally. Transition, to the extent that I did it, helps me embody and express something about myself to others that even if they don't pick up on it to the extent of placing me in a different category always, they understand me differently based on how I look now and I like it.
Yes I did. And I was miserable.
>>40943095i love youi aspire to this
>>40943095Did you not grow boobs? Enviable if so
>>40943240No, D cups. But the way they follow the line of my body can read how I want it to in different outfits and different ways I hold my posture. I'm exactly how I want to be right now and I'm happy about it. I'm perceived in many many different ways by different people but always ethereal is the word people use. Tops and bottoms desire me. People of every gender cis and trans hit on me, but I'm over getting validation through that at this point.Not gonna post pics. Just understand that I'm attractive in a very specific way. But yeah just gonna keep looking after my health and looking after my mental health. I'll probably wean myself off of 4chan at some point too, but this place doesn't harm me quite how it used to now I've started to just build up some resilience and self esteem for who and what I am. I think at the moment it's just force of habit and an idle action to externalize my processing at the moment. I do journal but I need to get in the habit of doing it when I'm on my phone. Anyway, all the best to you anon. >>40943200And to you too anon, I hope you find a way of being, and find a way of thinking about that way of being that makes you feel at home in your body and able to move through the world in the way you please.
>>40942627im trying to do both actually
