ITT we discuss the medical industry's monetization of self-loathing and how that's a bad thing actually.
it's okay to be a feminine male
it's only a bad thing in that it precents trannoids and faggots from killing themselves more quickly
>>40943960YES AND DONT GET CHEMOTHERAPY FOR YOUR CANCER TUMOR BECAUSE DA MEDICAL INDUSTRY = BADIdiotI hope you choke and their isn't anyone trained in first aid nearby, so you die while clutching your throat.
>>40943969Agreed, I'm a feminine male and I take bicalutamide I bought from the gray market to look more feminine.
>>40944050unfortunate
>>40943969E && AA FTW 4LYF
>>40944154Stop it. Get some help.
>>40944319No, I waited too long thinking I could live better without it, repressed so hard that if I hadn't been so lucky I would have ruined my body forever. Fortunately someone noticed my problem and begrudgingly suggested that resuming HRT would help my mental and physical health, I was basically a husk and I wasn't aware of it, grew so accustomed to suffering that I had given up on ever being happy.
I paid a guy to remove my testicles in order to prevent further masculinization.
>>40944022It's less like chemotherapy for cancer and more like liposuction for anorexia, silly.
>>40944390It's not, as liposuction wouldn't have any psychological effects on a person with body dysmorphia
>>40944057It's actually fortunate because now I don't have to worry about going bald
>>40944412Administering cross-sex hormones is going to have psychological effects on anyone, not just people with a mislabeled body dysmorphia like "gender dysphoria."
>>40944412Is this real lifeDid you actually post that and believe it What the hell
>>40944553Have you seen anorexic people? They could go dangerously thin and they'd still feel and see themselves fat, liposuction wouldn't do anything.>>40944532Both are different things tho
>>40943960>you shouldn't do the thing that has given your life meaning and finally made you happy and at home in your body because i find it ickyyeah no, trooning out was the single best decision i've ever made in my entire life. i only wish i had done it as a pre teen
>>40944569>Both are different things thoOh, is that so? Tell me more.
>>40944569And you'll always be bone-pilled.
>>40944604this is completely incomprehensibledoes repping melt people's brains?Is this why kiwifarmers are so retarded?
>>40944390>MUH MUMH ANOREXIA ANOREXIA I AM SO HAPPY REPPING THE TROONS ARE THE REAL SCHIZOFRENICS HAHA SILLY YOU I AM SO HAPPYconsidering you post shit like this>>40944604i'd say you're a bit more mentally unwell but alasdysphoria stems from distress at an objective view of current realityanorexia stems from distress at an inobjective view of reality
>>40943960I've heard (from their own mouth) that health care institutions make more money from trans patients than all other patients combined, despite trans patients being a very very small portion of their patients. Its big business.
>>40944691do you have any idea how cheap estrogen is and how few trannies there are?
>>40944390How soHRT effects your brain and bodily functions, it isn't a cosmetic procedureMaybe u are a fetishist who wants huge tits but not all of us are nasty fetishist hentai addicts like urself
>>40944664Anorexic: I need to be skinnierBiophobe: I need to be a real boyThe anorexic does not receive liposuction, but the biophobe gets her tits cut off.You see?
Comparing sex dysphoria to anorexia is a bad faith argumentAnorexics aren't born with the disorder
>>40944806I don't think most trannies were born like this either. They were perhaps born autistic and/or gay. I've been brought to believe perhaps sadomasochists were born like that. Both trannies and sadomasochists were probably abused.
>>40944806"Trans people" aren't born either. The evidence clearly indicates it's a social contagion and a culture bound syndrome.
>>40944849I was never abusedI am gayTestosterone makes me feel horribleEstrogen makes me feel normalIt's clearly a neurological disorder for some. I get what you are saying though, a lot of transmaxxers probably were groomed by anime and the internet
>>40944923>The evidence clearly indicates it's a social contagionSuch as.....?
>>40944777But the anorexic person is already dangerously skinny; they are delusional. The trans person can see the reality that they are not the sex that they want to be and they want to change it.Transition is more like a very obese person feeling horrible about their body and wanting to make themselves skinnier.
>>40944777if liposuction were safe and effective at preventing death for anorexics I'd say it would make a lot of sense to give it to them
>>40944942The characteristics of its spread, such as when several members of a friend group "come out" together, and how it has a clear delimitation between language and social barriers. It mimics the spread of things like cutting.Even the ghouls at WPATH were forced to admit "there may" be a social contagion element, the evidence is that obvious.
>>40944777>biophobeleast mentally deranged reppersissy
>>40945100is autism a social contagion?
>>40945015Both are delusional. The anorexic and the biophobe both look at their body and say "this is wrong."With the anorexic we say "no, your body is fine"With the biophobe we say "let's discuss payment options"
>>40943960I'm a repper who missed my chance to transition and my life is literal hell because of that
>>40943960the overwhelming majority of users of the medicines used in HRT are cis peopletrans people are a small market that pharmaceutical companies have never optimized for. doctors repurposed medicines developed for other conditions in order to treat us.
>>40945130Autism isn't, but saying you're autistic can be.
>>40943960So big pharma conspired to manufacture evidence that this very rare condition should be treated with medication that can’t be patented for more money to prop up a medical industry that’s worth less than the knee replacement surgery industry. Is that right?
>biophonelmao what are we doing
>>40945150majority of srs techniques (and all phalloplasty) were made for cis people with disorders/cancer/post-accidents tooffs/fms is simple repurposing of plastic surgery techniquestop surgery is gyno removalba is babody contouring is same as ffsits all repurposed
>>40945181 conspiring isn’t necessarily done in bad faith.
>>40945228It’s by definition done in bad faith, any conspiracy is deceiving the public.
>>40945261I mean there’s not any deception is there? It’s on public record who funds pro-trans medical studies and their corporate connections to advocacy organizations and such. The system is designed to make money, so at no link in the chain would anyone choose the least money-generating option for themselves. Is that a conspiracy? Maybe just appears like one?
>>40945316The connections between anti-trans studies and conservative think tanks are also very obvious and well-documented, probably much more so than for pro-trans studies.
>>40945261It's possible to deceive in good faith, like a white lie. This entire malpractice is due to well intentioned deception.
>>40945357That’s not what good faith and bad faith mean, they refer to sincerity/honesty.
>>40945351they’re more talked about for sure. But that’s a lot of because the left is into the notion that money and finance corrupts absolutely. In reality it’s all the same shit done by either side where they start a study at then conclusion and design the experiment to fit. Which is why I only read politically contentious scientific papers when Chinese people are involved now
>>40945394This argument and thread are pointless then, since there’s no impartial evidence for or against the thesis.
>>40945100You are referring to girls aged 8-14, that is for sure social contagion. That is why I advocate for HRT being prescribed to adults aged 18+ onlyTrans people have existed all throughout recorded history
>>40945137But they don't say "this is wrong", they say "my body is masculine/feminine and I don't like it that way". You can't therapy your way out of someone who can see the truth clearly. You can't just lie to them and tell them their body isn't that way because both of you can see it's blatantly untrue.
>>40944849I second >>40944928, never abused, at least not before I realized what I was
>>40945917I see, you're saying the anorexic's body ISN'T fat in reality but the biophobes body IS their sex in reality.It's not a meaningful distinction, we still have two individuals that are unhappy with their bodies with diametrically opposed treatments for their unhappiness. One is helped to overcome their delusion and the other has their delusion reinforced (for now).
>>40944849well you can think whatever retarded nonsense you want to think but the science doesn't agree with you. transgenderism is a biological intersex condition of the brain that develops in utero. one day culture and education has advanced enough thay even mouth breathers are aware of this.
>>40943960I agree, we should socialize medicine to prevent profit motives from interfering with care
>>40944691hrt costs like 15€/month and there's less than 1% of people who take it. no you did not hear that because it's not true and never will be. i'm finding it really difficult to not be a misanthropist while ""people"" as unimaginably fucking brain dead as you exist.
>>40946084how is it a delusion if my body is male and i dont like it that way, are you saying im a woman, oddly affirming from you
>>40946130it's literally more profitable to gatekeep HRT with tons of appointments and make the trany rep without HRT until she was already fucked up with testosterone so she would do an FFS, BBL, rib surgery, clavicle surgery, rhinoplasty and spend much more while giving HRT to a youngshit would cost only 15k for her entire life, a lateshit alone could cost up to 250k only on surgeries
>>40946111No, he's right. Most people that are misled to believe they should be the opposite sex really are just gay and/or autistic.And there's no such thing as an intersex brain condition. A lot of this "trans brain" garbage is from dishonest studies that intentionally ignored the sexual orientation of participants.
>>40946277Thinking your body is wrong is the delusion. Your body is exactly the way it's supposed to be.Like people that want to have an arm cut off, they see they have an arm and they don't like it that way. Feeling like it needs to be removed is the delusion.
>>40946360having a need to have sexual intercourse nonreproductively is a perversion and a delusion
>>40946277>my body is male and i dont like it that wayDefying social norms = cool rebel.Defying biology = retard alert.Sorry, but you should have been born in a era where we are biologically immortal and can sort that out properly.Unfortunately you're in the era of grifter hormone cocktails and swamp person cosmetic surgery.
>>40946443>uh... crying as a man is totally cool and breaking hecking social norms bro its hecking based slay kween!!! just dont do anything thats actually breaking social norms please please please we need more goyslaves PLEASE
>>40946360Well that's a different argument, saying that disliking my male body is a delusionUnfortunately we haven't exactly figured out an alternative treatment for that, compared to anorexics where we just tell them their body is not fat, can't exactly tell trannies their bodies are not male can you
>>40946468I was just thinking that like, tomboys are cool.You should probably take your meds and/or kill yourself pronto lol
>>40946360I didn't say it is wrong I said it feels wrong. I don't want it to be that way and I want to change it. >Like people that want to have an arm cut off, they see they have an arm and they don't like it that way. Feeling like it needs to be removed is the delusion.This is a closer comparison as that person sees their body clearly. But the belief that their life would be improved if they had their arms removed is a delusional one. No human naturally comes without arms. They won't be made better when we remove their limbs they will become disabled. Trans people's beliefs about what would be best for their bodies don't follow this pattern. What they want is simply to have the body that 50% of humanity has, when we treat them they become happier and more abled rather than disabled.
In humans gender is analogous to biological sex and is binary and determined in uetero. Anything else bar rare chromosomal mutation is just a fetish or mental illness. Part of the jews multiprong attack on society.
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>>40944050it's ok to act feminine without looking feminine
>>40946468seconding what that other anon said, you should fucking kill yourself right away lmao that suuure is some headcanon to immediately run to lmao
>>40946586The tranny becomes infertile and often loses sexual function altogether, so enabling their delusion does disable them.
>>409466751. Not being able to have sex is not a disability, incel2. Trannies can still be fertile if they wish to stop hormone treatments3. Eggs and sperm can be saved before transition should they wish so they have no problem reproducing
>>40946750most trannies don't save gametesthe purpose is to prevent gays from breedingit's eugenics under false pretenses
>>40946750Of course being incapable of achieving orgasm is a disability, don't be retarded.
>>40946857but then estrogen cured my disability, i can goon much better now
>>40946360>Your body is exactly the way it's supposed to be.It isn't tho, I suffered bullying my entire life for being different, hrt is simply aligning that.
>>40946948This is 1:1 with a gay kid getting bullied for being gay and then going through conversion therapy.
>>40946857it works on my machine
>>40947108that's what being trans isgay kids get bullied, and are pressured into castrating themselvesthat's what's really happening here, and people hate gays SO MUCH, nobody will speak out about it
>>40947108>>40947123what does that even matter though, in your eyes they're still gay so not converted to anything
>>40947108And having gyno, and wide hips and a weird face, and being hairless.
>>40947171but they can still can have children through artificial insemination and surrogate just like any other gay couple. I don't understand why you would have an issue with this
>>40947123There are lots of people speaking out about it, the tranny propaganda situation in the US is slowing down progress but in other parts of the world people are cluing in to what's really happening.
>>40947238Do they though, how many bottoms did you see becoming a gay surrogate father before this, not to mention how surrogacy is in general a bit messed up to the woman but that's a different story>yeah they don't but they couldyeah they could also store sperm but they don't cuz yeah they don't wanna be dads, most still don't even have surgery and otherwise hrt is generally reversible, its just that most don't wanna do it
>>40947275literally nobody is publicly speaking out that transgenderism is anti gay conversion therapy except for a rare handful of british and scottish women people are against transgenderism for every reason except that it erases gay people
>>40947471Yeah cuz in those peoples eyes theyre still gay so
>>40946576>>40946658>jumps to the exact thing they criticize trannies for>further proving my point picrelermm you know go waste your 401k to fullfill your future sissy obsession a bit sooner and mayhaps die from grids?
