oh fucking no

No such thing as "transgenderism" in humans. Gender is analogous to biological sex and is binary and determined in uetero. Unless you have an ultra rare generic chromosome mutation/disorder, your gender expression is just part of a fetish or mental illness.

It's not a thing, that's just reality. The only reason it was ever accepted is because it's part of the jews multiprong attack on western civilization. Since the jews influence in wanning and they've had to do a tactical retreat, expect society to longer take your shit-unless your the top 3% of passable tgirls.

English troons: this is all because we werent racist enough!

this is such a weird law. i will continue using the womens facilities because i am fortunate enough to pass and its like what alternative is there. the question i am left with is what this means for work, for example. is this a stealth bill? like some at my work know im trans even if its not on my records anywhere. so its really confusing about the liability here; i think they probably could turn a blind eye quite legally even if they had policy saying no trannies in the womens room. but then is this grounds for disciplinary action upon me? it would just take some gossiping and someone to fall out with me and then this could hurt me, perhaps. its so unclear as to how serious that risk is.
i will be looking for a new job i think

>>40946542
>It is a moral imperative to DIYpill every trans teen in the country
it's impossible to do that

>>40946642
maybe for you honey x

>>40946609
I dont disagree.

>>40946635
Do you actually pass to that degree?

>>40946542
is this robin? keep up the good work, you are an inspiration!

>>40946542
>no trans people in single-sex spaces
Trans people ARE allowed in single sex spaces though

>>40946542
billions must diy.

camhs and my parents worked together to block me from diying as a teenager, now i have a deformed body and the government is going to force me to be an eternal pariah. i'm going to fucking kill myself

>>40946637
Then start with "as many as you possibly can". Stop making excuses, what good is that doing?

>>40946663
yes, much to my surprise. before the SC stuff i came out to a few people i work closely with (was silly of me). i explained to them i was doing so because i don't know how well i pass and it makes me anxious in the office and gets in the way of my job. they told me they had no idea. this matches up with other instances of me telling people and them being surprised. i think i do pass this well despite of course having the same anxieties about it that we all do. i think theres been so little thought into the way this would be enforced for people in my position desu, its like the government are not even aware some trans people might pass but then also be out in some contexts. like there is such a lack of clarity on where the liability for this stuff falls i think and its making work quite scary for me. i wish i had never come out/

>>40946542
>thing that ever says happened will happen
in reality? shop policies may be worth a quick google but unless security are actually there most terfs are too much of a wuss irl to care

>>40946695
Help others who were in your situation. Attend pride events, protests, anything LGBT-related and see what opportunities and links you can find. If you're young enough, go to the nearest LGBT/trans youth support group and quietly talk about DIY there to those who need it. If you're under 25, find a 18-25s one, talk to the 18 year olds there about it, and encourage them to find their local e.g. 11-18s group to do the same at. We can systematically feed information down the line to those who need it if we're organised about it.

---

I've been pushing this for some time but the majority of you just whinge "there's no point in trying because things are bad atm". It's pathetic. Things can get a hell of a lot worse than this still and you aren't ready. If you already think we're fucked, what is there to lose?

>>40946609
>in 3d
I like how the claim has morphed to something unfalsifiable.
Because it's not like I'm ever gonna meet any of you fuckers.

>>40946600
>The only reason it was ever accepted is because it's part of the jews multiprong attack on western civilization.
individualism is a core western value

>>40946713
Well if you're a real passing young tgirl (and obviously not a predator or something) probably no one will have an issue with it.

There is the instance of people just saying you pass to be polite though. Are you sure they're sincere?

>>40946727
Rowling has established a legal fund of millions of £ for any terf who wants to sue any local shop or workplace etc. that they spot failing to comply. Some are even talking about suing for past 'discrimination' under the 'incorrect' interpretation of the Equality Act.

>>40946699
Can't do that, government already insisted no establishment is allowed to have only unisex bathrooms.

>>40946542
I want to help others but I'm a shut-in who knows no trans people irl

>>40946815
*no new establishment built from now on, I should specify, don't think it applies to existing buildings

>>40946789
yeah, there's no reason for them to lie and it lines up with other things (docs asking about my menstrual cycle, being able to use gym changing rooms without anyone even looking twice, etc). i think the evidence is just that i pass even if it feels really hard to accept.
>Well if you're a real passing young tgirl (and obviously not a predator or something) probably no one will have an issue with it.
yes i agree. the issue i have, though, is that this allows people to weaponize discrimination at me. for example if someone knows im trans at work and gets upset at me, it doesn't matter if they have no beef with trans people. they now have the ability to weaponize HR policy against me to hurt my career

>>40946796
You're not wrong that pictures can be manipulated. I'm just saying I have real-world knowledge that you are wrong if you think you could reliably pick out XY intersex women from perisex females.
But literally how would I convince you of that?

>>40946699
i like abject pictorial representations solely bc its basically impossible to say that actually proves it can be interpreted - without needless toilet policy somewhere on their website - as an EA2010 single sex space.

unless stated otherwise most public toilets it is operated on social cohesion and are - to my silly brain - double-natal-sexed spaces

(also, there is no logical way to definitively prove natal sex, so the guidance can be practically ignored as to enforce it requires a document which takes several days to procure and can be illegal to obtain in the case of those individuals with GRCs. not entirely enforceable in the case of a confrontation w/ terfs in the womens)

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>>40946777
Denying biological reality and demanding society to support you is not 'individualism'. It's well established the jews are behind it.

>>40946791
it isn't illegal to /not/ provide single-sex spaces even if an average individual would assume them to be so, except in certain new-build english workplaces and scottish schools

>>40946855
The UK is a powder keg, laws dont matter. Trans nonsense will be something the Labour government will go after first as a concession since so many agree. Nationalists, Terfs and Muslims

>>40946860
>Denying biological reality and demanding society to support you is not 'individualism'.
bodily autonomy and personal expression are individualism

>It's well established the jews are behind it.
tell that to south america or thailand

>>40946833
It was like that for me too. I think I passed in real life for a full year before I passed to myself. And it was quite a lot longer before I really found peace with my body.
>>40946789
The problem is always it only takes one shithead.

>>40946833
Post pic

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>>40946796
> pictures can easily be distorted to suit a narrative

Heh

>>40946860
>i dicksuck a half blind dysgenic neurotic jew with delusions of grandeur
>that makes me based because trannies bad or something also trannies were caused by heckin jews!!!
Follow your leader

>>40946873
so theres a lot of incorrect takes in this thread. this is actually really complicated and involves things much wider than the SC stuff. the key legislation here is the workplace health and safety act (1995). this dictates a ratio between female and male bathrooms that must be provided in public institutions and service providers and workplaces. so basically anywhere other than your home with limited exception. its something like 2 spaces to females, for every 1 space for males. the reasoning being they may have additional needs meaning they take longer in the bathroom, and without urinals they require more single-occupancy cubicles.
the issue arising from the SC ruling is how these things are defined. its really messy. there was ongoing legal debate as to what is counted towards this ratio. for example, how does the act account for single occupancy bathroom stalls? the act sort of loosely defines it as being a space that has handwashing facilities and a toilet, and defines the single sex part as being a place that only one sex is in at a time. it has nothing to do with the sign on the door, really. and so if only one person (a single man or a single woman, for example) is in a single occupancy bathroom, is that male or female or both? the sort of prevailing legal opinion was that it becomes a female space when a woman is using it, and becomes a male space when a man is using it. and so often those single occupancy spaces can meet the requirements of the act even accounting for the supreme court stuff. the complicating factor comes with spaces that have multiple cubicles as part of a shared area. the last i was reading into this ongoing debate (a few months ago), the guidance the EHRC had put out pertaining to the act was;
regardless of the location of the hand washing facilities, the individual stalls within such a bathroom occupy the same H&S compliance stuff as a single occupancy bathroom.
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>>40946894
What part of bodily autonomy is forcing people to use your pronouns or forcing your way into a biological women's bathroom, in a building you don't own. You freaks pushed to hard, without your jew patrons society will simply not accept you to impose your delusions and perversions on us.

Thai ladybois are usually chill. As are the rare super passable western tgirls. Not really the issue. Pic related is.

>>40946934
in both looks like a dude and the first one has literal beard shadow
are you fucking face blind

>>40946962
You'll be following the rest of you freaks into the male washroom.

Sanity has won in the USA and even in Britain. Sorry jew faggt no creeping on women and children you disgusting freak.

>>40946965
No woman would ever type that. You're an autistic man and you will use the male washroom, as you should.

>>40946967
>biological womens bathroom
>the sacred space is for le WHITES
explain to me how are these things different on an ideological axis
i already know you're a retarded hitlerite but at least try to not be one for a second because there is less of you than trannies in the population

>>40946873
essentially that means basically every bathroom you've ever used is single sex always? its really messy in how that should be interpreted and has not been tested in court yet. you could have a man 'in the womens bathroom' in the sense that he is stood outside the cubicles, without there being any changes to the organisations ability to meet the requirements of the act, so long as he never steps foot into one of those cubicles at the same time as a woman does. that still remains a single sex bathroom. and as far as i can see, the guidance in relation to the EHRC does not change that? it just more directly says trannies are male.

this is not to say that if this got to court it would remain this way but as far as i can interpret this (as a lay person), trans women probably can legally still use womens restrooms without that space becoming a 'mixed sex' space, and therefore im not sure under what grounds that organisation could be sued. they are still meeting their requirements under the 1995 act which remains the key legislation here about what bathrooms spaces must provide

this strikes me more as an attempt to embolden people to harass trannies, basically. or to push companies to (incorrectly) adopt very extreme policies related to bathrooms

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>>40946984
nobody wants to touch them bro
need i remind you what percentage of child rapes is in the family doe?

>>40946993
yawn
>you're a man for being informed about laws that are likely to effect you at work
this was what was told to me by hr
>>40946902
no
>>40946900
yep! it takes a long time. i'm starting to accept it better now at least.

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Another point, via @czech.hunter.schafer

>>40946984
have fun getting shot up by muslims :))))

>>40946994
You're a man..I can tell by the way you type and argue. No girl types like that. It's an objective fact of reality you are a man. You denying an objective fact and calling someone retarded for pointing this out is nonsensical. You can't change the fact that you're a man anymore than you can change the law of gravity. Western nations are popping off and this shit will end.

>>40946967
>Not really the issue. Pic related is.
picrel was a conservative falseflag trying to generate hate for trannies, so yeah we agree. stop trying to make people hate us.

>>40947034
why do you post like an anime villain giving a speech lol

>>40946699
>unisex multi-user restroom
Those things are disturbing to anybody with any semblance of sanity.

>>40946864
I was male failing in my mid 30s, though even I didn't understand how. I always assumed it was because I'm short and had long hair but even crazy short men usually still look like men.
I male failed consistently pretty much as soon as I achieved full T suppression, which took 8 months or less (tested at 8 months) because I slowly ramped hormones up. My life got weird fast. I was completely mentally unprepared for that to happen as fast as it did. And the worst part was I still didn't see it yet. I was grotesque. But I was a grotesque woman.
If you met me now and I never told you you'd have no clue. I'm even kind of OK looking, especially for 40.
This is despite having at least some testosterone sensitivity and what one would assume was 20+ years of at least adequate testosterone production.
If I'd been born with CAIS you wouldn't have a prayer of clocking me without an ultrasound machine or a cytogenetics lab.
And I'm not even the only passoid I've met in real life.
>>40947019
Glad to hear it!

>>40947034
>western nations
>only bongcuck without aussiechads
:kek:

>>40947079
see >>40947008
all bathrooms in the UK are this, in a sense. this would be no change at all from how the UK has existed since 1995 at the very least

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>>40946981
You know what’s crazy is that it seems like almost everyone using the internet in 2025 expects that if someone is replying to them it means they’re in disagreement with their point if they don’t explicitly stare otherwise. And that the assumption is that whatever the reply is it is part of a dialectical argument, and confrontational in nature.

>>40947079
Those things are disturbing to anybody who thinks too much about people being naked
>ftfy

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>>40947035
It wasn't though. That's made up.
Here's another equally egregious example. Jessica Yaniv. Sorry we don't want freaks around kids

>>40947018
Most of those sickos have hidden fetishes like cross dressing or eating shit ffs. What's so hard to understand? Sick freaks are not normal and should be institutionalized-shit eaters, pedos, cross genders, necrophilia, trannies its the same shit. The jews have forced acceptance of those groups (trans) on us, but that's ending.

>>40947081
omg i relate to this so heavily, ty for going into more details. all of this is very similar to me only with some differences in age. do you have discord? i'd love to talk to you a bit more as i've never had a chance to talk about this with someone who relates

>>40947101
>IMMIDIATE deflection
should i call cps man

>>40947101
>It wasn't though. That's made up.
was too, not made up. real. fact checked by real american patriots
>>40947101
>equally egregious
you think wearing large breatforms as a teacher is equally egregious as trying to bait children to have a pool party at your house?

>>40947122
Reading comprehension, dude. Reading comprehension.

>>40947008
It's to scare companies who can't risk a lawsuit even if they're in the right because Rowling is bigger

>>40947131
nahh nigga i read that perfectly dont try to back away now

>>40947128
Both are sex fetishists that endanger children.

Are you trans btw?

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>You're a man..I can tell by the way you type and argue. No girl types like that. It's an objective fact of reality you are a man. You denying an objective fact and calling someone retarded for pointing this out is nonsensical. You can't change the fact that you're a man anymore than you can change the law of gravity.

>>40947140
Evidently you didn't. If so, respond to the central (true claim). That extreme fetishism is dangerous (especially to kids) and transgenderism is included in that category along with pedophila, necrophilia, shit eating etc. Society should punish all these in the strongest terms.

Also, are you trans? You type and argue 100% like a man. No girl types like that.

>>40947105
Yep! matrix_error

>>40947161
Ya definitely male coded.

>>40947166
>matrix_error
i just added you :)
name begins with s

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>>40946542
genuinely dont care & im gonna keep using womens spaces because im a woman and i dont wanna die to some disgusting perverted moid just for trying to pee

not that all men are gross violent perverts obviously but if theres a room full of 10 men and 1 of them is a murderer i am not going to stand near any of the men.

i hope my existence makes some terf toss and turn late at night overthinking every little interaction she has. it's kinda funny how little i care about those people but how much of their time they dedicate to trying to sniff me out.

5 years stealth and counting, never clocked once, not even with short hair and no makeup!

>>40947142
>endanger children
anon i can understand how an adult trying to get children to visit their pool is endangering children, but how is wearing large breastforms as a teacher endangering children? what is the danger?
>Are you trans btw?
trans isn't real anon. there are no trans people

>>40947177
You type like a man. 100%.

Hillarious in a thread full of "transgirls " i can clock all of you right away based on how you write.

None of you will ever know what it's like to be a woman.

whats a single sex space legally anyway, is it in a statute or something

>>40947191
it's less effective when we can tell you're not really thinking about it anon. you've gotta work on more personal attacks if you want them to sting

>>40947191
this doesnt really work when i tell you im trans first anon. i dont actually know what you were going for with this tbhwy

>>40947178
Do you think the teacher was a wholesome dude who slipped into giant tit fetish gear? He obviously gets off to it, I don't want a man getting off to a fetish while teaching common sense. In a sane society that dude would be escorted from school and immediately detained in an asylum....you surely can disagree? If you do, that's 100% why normies have turned on you guys.

>>40947162
>still runs away from the actual argument
uh huh

>>40947212
>>40947223

Just stating facts. You guys don't have the first clue what it means to be a woman anymore than you have a clue as to what it feels like to be a turtle or a tree. You should probably seek help and embrace your authentic self-which is male...everyone else can tell.

>>40947224
>Do you think the teacher was a wholesome dude who slipped into giant tit fetish gear?
no, like i said i think he was a conservative who wanted to generate hate for trans people

>>40947244
its very kind how everybody can tell but still lets me into their spaces <3

>>40947178
>>40947224
That teacher literally claimed to be intersex with gigantomastia. There is absolutely no reason to defend their behavior. Maybe they don't need to be on a registry but that shit was not OK.

>>40947239
What's the argument? That non trans people molest children? I agree and want them punished. My counter argument is pedophilia is a sick extreme fetish just like transgenderism or leather pup play or piss drinking, same pathology and must have no place in public and especially in schools. You fucking NAMBLA faggt

>>40947255
That's made up.
See >>40947258

>>40947258
>There is absolutely no reason to defend their behavior
not defending it, i'm literally just saying i don't think it's in the same realm as trying to get kids to wear swimsuits at your house
and like i said that teacher was a conservative trying to make people hate trannies

>>40947257
"Their spaces"

You intrinsically know you don't belong.
Every cell in your body is male coded. It's in your chromosomes ffs. Unless you look like a supermodel (and even then age catches up to everyone) you should live as your true self, a male.

>>40947290
of course i dont belong nona! if i belonged it wouldnt be nearly as exciting!

how else is a man supposed to get his rocks off now that porn is banned? <3

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>>40947259
>sick extreme fetish just like transgenderism
explain prepubescent children with gender dysphoria then

>>40946967
>What part of bodily autonomy is
the part where i can be take hrt, see a doc, and be left the fuck alone

>>40947259
no it's that 80% of child sexual crime is commited by parents

>>40947328
Being a parent doesn't exclude you from being a sicko...inceldom is a modern thing. Traditionally almost everyone had kids, even notorious gay rapist serial killers.

>>40947301
Get on your knees and service a str8 guy?

>>40947305
Absolutely doesn't exist and I won't say what I think should be done to those you push it.

>>40947374
except there are children who say they have gender dysphoria

>>40947379
I wonder why they fucking say that, jew, I wonder why that wasn't a thing until 10 yrs ago (after briefly being a thing in 1920s Berlin)

You sorely underestimate the hatred people have for you.

>>40947211
A space designated for the sole use of a single sex.
I thought it was obvious...

>>40947367
thats kinda gay anon...

>>40947404
they say it cause they have gender dysphoria anon. they've been saying it forever.
so are you gonna say you can tell i'm jewish because of the way i type now? lol

>>40947379
>except there are children who say they
Are firefighters
Are soldiers
Are Pokemon masters
Are ninjas
Are princesses

>>40947417
No its str8 af if you pass...

>>40947404
>wasnt a thing
>if i just deny everything im right

>>40947431
no there aren't, there are children who play pretend that they are those things. you learned how to tell when someone is saying something for fun or for real when you were a child anon, i know this because you're directly referencing role-play as a child.

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>>40947436
what if i dont wanna be str8 anon? what if i wanna have hot yaoi sex with boymoders instead, huh? >>40943061

>>40947422
Children don't have an understanding of reality, a boy saying he likes pink doesn't equate to thinking he's a girl.

And since no male can ever know what it's like to be a female, no male can ever be truly gender dysphoric...all he can comprehend is through male biology

>>40947456
Stop...I can only get so erect

>every single person's sexed natal neurology (a function of hormone exposure in utero) neatly develops into one of two sexes with no malformations or mutations every single time... because I say so, okay?

>>40947463
>Children don't have an understanding of reality
no, but they do experience and exist in reality anyways and their reactions to it are important for understanding how to treat them. you don't disregard a child telling you that they're having a negative reaction to food saying that they're too young to know if that's really an itching they're feeling. we can diagnose children's allergies despite their lack of knowledge about the world
>a boy saying he likes pink doesn't equate to thinking he's a girl.
no one said anything about that, don't be retarded
>And since no male can ever know what it's like to be a female, no male can ever be truly gender dysphoric
this is called a non-sequitur, there is no relation between the two statements. it's also just stupid, you can't define gender dysphoria out of existence. the concept exists to describe experiences people have. you're just pushing for gender dysphoria to be described differently

>>40947492
Natal neurological develolment does not equate to your gender. Your gonads and chromosomes during.

Is masculinity a spectrum based on natal neurology? Can someone be born "super male" as a distinct gender than a normal male?

>>40947518
i think thats just called mental retardation anon

>>40947455
And when a boy roleplays as a princess, he is suddenly trans

>>40946542
Why does the UK care what the EHRC states? Last time I checked we have our own guidelines and don't follow the EHRC directly?

>>40947527
no, but girls generally do role-play as princesses and that can be an early sign that a trans girl is a girl. it doesn't make her anything, but is a result of the way she intuitively relates herself to other people

>>40947030
what does that even accomplish past making trannies lives worse?

>>40947508
Your missing the point, it's doubly true for children but it's true of all males....you cannot, as a matter of reality, conceive of what it feels like to be a girl, and thus can never say you "feel like a woman" or are a "woman" the idea is insane. Being transracial makes more sense because race is more mutable than sex.

What you call gender dysphoria is a mental illness akin to anorexia or in severe cases schizophrenia. You know this to be true, you are just trying to argue (like a man btw) justification for your lifestyle.

>>40946542
>KishwerFalkner
Muzzies need to be stabbed to death.

>>40947545
It's not intuitive at all. Do little humans have an inate understanding of what royalty is, to aspire to be a princess? No. It's taught.

A boy cannot be a trans girl because that doesn't exist.

>>40947565
yeah anon like i said you're trying to define gender dysphoria out of existence. it's retarded.
i want to be female, i feel sad when i think about how i am male. i call this feeling gender dysphoria. making my body as female as possible makes me less sad. whether or not i "feel like a woman" or am one doesn't change that fact.
>>40947595
>Do little humans have an inate understanding of what royalty is, to aspire to be a princess?
no but they do have an intuitive understanding of gender, you already knew that's what was being said but i guess you wanted there to be another post in the thread?

>>40946542
>no trans people in single-sex spaces etc.
What does this mean for poonchads? You're just not allowed in any space? Yeah obviously in practice I doubt men are gonna care

>>40947609
Yes they can. Your on to something....

>>40947463
>a boy saying he likes pink doesn't equate to thinking he's a girl
So funny story
My own mom questioned my gender identity in front of me. She'd talk about all the stereotypical things like playing with dolls or extracurricular activities or whatever. And I kind of hated it.
Because you're right. Liking pink doesn't make you a girl. Playing with dolls doesn't make you a girl.
But I think she knew something I didn't, and was trying to hint me into fixing it without actually telling me what happened.
More than a decade later I'd finally notice the scars and it'd all click.
That's why everyone thought I was a woman on the phone long past when my voice should've dropped.
That's why I'd get misgendered in person even when people could see my face.
Because surgery wasn't enough to make me normal.
Because I was literally biologically incapable of achieving the normal male form.
Because I was biologically incapable of ever fully being perceived as male.
Because I am biologically incapable of experiencing life as men experience life.

Why do conservatives always think this is an own? Of course boys can like pink!

>>40947611
"I want to be female" Prove this statement. You have no idea what it's like to be female, therefore you can't "want to be female" in any more of a real sense then you could want to be Superman or a squirrel. You can only understand womanhood superficially, and that's just not valid. If I could snap my fingers and actually change you female you might find it feels completely different than you envisioned. We can't run a society like that. Immutable characteristics are real. I'm sorry you feel bad about yourself and imagine you want to be female, if we had actually proper non jew therapy and medical care I bet you could get the help you need to be happy as your authentic male self.

>>40947636
"Because I am biologically incapable of experiencing life as men experience life".

My friend I am sorry but you are ONLY capable of experiencing life as a man, because you are a man. Whatever you experience, is by definition what a man experiences. It doesn't matter what your mom or anyone else says, reality is a cruel mistress. What is your sexual identity? Are you attracted to men or women?

>>40947661
nta but weird argument, "how can you know you want to be rich if youre not rich xdd"

>>40947529
Politicians will always pay attention.
They need a scapegoat now that the UK isn't in the EU.

>>40947661
ok but anon wanting to be superman is really normal and everyone can relate to that one. everyone does think having super powers would be cool and wants superpowers. it's the entire reason superman was invented as a character
see it's cause i have a brain and i can use it to anticipate things i haven't experienced based on the things i have experienced in the past, having body parts allows me to imagine what it would be like to have other body parts just like experiencing pain allows me to imagine what it would be like to experience other pain
seriously though anon do you think "it doesn't actually make sense to say to want to be superman because you've never experienced having superpowers" is a sensical statement?

>>40947555
What did you think the purpose of this law is?

>>40947686
Are you seriously that stupid or arguing in bad faith?

You can vary your levels of money.

Your biological characteristics are immutable. A man can't know what it's like to be a woman. An individual can't really even know what it's like to be another individual.

Your wanting to be a woman is superficial. A perceived cure to some mental illness. Or a fetish.

>>40946609
This is kind of funny since proving something like swyer syndrome literally requires karyotyping, I mean yeah you can see they're "male" under a microscope

I still imagine they would be considered women under this law but an interesting thought experiment if they weren't.

>>40947661
>>40947691
beyond that like, anon would you call someone delusional if they wanted to be like superman and did everything they could to be like him?
think about this analogy you conjured anon. the person who knows they don't have superpowers but works to be like superman as much as they can be would be a direct comparison to trans people from your explanation about anorexic people.

>>40947683
>my heckin autism means im right

>>40947595
you cannot be a hitlerite and a person of a non-retarded iq becasue that doesn't exist
see how you can just say words?

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>>40947661
>"I want to be a Corvette owner" Prove this statement. You have no idea what it's like to be a Corvette, therefore you can't "want to be a Corvette owner" in any more of a real sense then you could want to be Superman or a squirrel.
NTA but is that really the best you've got? Grim.
>>40947683
I am this anon and philosophy isn't just when you smoke weed and then say stupid shit you think is profound.
Reality is I'm perceived as female by the general public, which doesn't walk around with medical imaging equipment and isn't going to wait around for literal weeks to hear back about my karyotype before they decide what I am.
But good luck trolling everyone else here I guess.

>>40947716
>>40947733

>>40947691
Yes, because I am equating you wanting to be a woman with someone wanting to be Superman, a squirrel etc. It's a superficial feeling, it's not based on reality. You see Superman, think it's cool, you want to be him. You see a woman-maybe thinking about dressing like her gets you hard, maybe your unhappy in your own skin whatever, you want to be her. But you can never be her, nor ever even understand what it's like to be her. Just like you can never be Superman, or a black man can never be an asian man. Why the fuck should society be held hostage to support such ludicrous delusions?

>>40947716
>Your biological characteristics
what characteristics. which ones? cause certainly not all of them. age is a biological characteristic and it's mutable, and constantly changing.

>>40947768
well that's where you've misunderstood anon. i'm not trying to be anyone else, i'm trying to be me. and that "me" is a girl. i know what it's like to be her because i am her

>>40947750
It's like you wanting to be the corvette, not the corvette owner you retard.

>>40946542
You seem cool add me on Discord @eunuchrage

>>40947769
Can you reverse your age? No? Then you can't change your sex or race, retard. No wonder society hates you spergs

>>40947768
you sound like a rajeesh trying to seem profound
just sayin
(hand)

>>40947791
You can't just win the argument by calling everyone retarded.
I became a woman. Cope, seethe, and dilate.
Have you considered owning a Corvette? I hear they're pretty sweet. Though I've never owned one so I can't be sure if I want to.

>>40947806
>>40947768
calm your autism girlie

>>40947806
>Can you reverse your age? No? Then you can't change your sex or race, retard
how do the two relate anon. there are fish that can change sex a single time, one way. would you argue that for those fish sex is immutable because it's not reversible?
and answer the question, which biological characteristics are we talking about, since not all of them are immutable

>>40947745
You're a faggot incel who thinks he's a woman. You're probably hairy and reek of cheto dust. You've never talked to or dated a girl, but I'm in a relationship and can tell you no girl talks or argues like that-its male coded. You can't be calling anyone retarded, faggot. Trump can't look you loons up quick enough.

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>>40947786
well that's where you've misunderstood anon. i'm not trying to be anyone else, i'm trying to be me. and that "me" is a SUPERMAN. i know what it's like to be SUPERMAN because i am SUPERMAN

>>40947835
>doesnt even deny
over for nazisissies

>>40947716
But if you're not rich you still can't know how it feels, right

So are you saying then its ok if I just argue I want to have female secondary sex characteristics, my genitalia to closer resemble female ones and generally be treated as a woman because that's attainable at least in theory

>>40947847
>women aren't real they're a specific fictional character

>>40947847
superman isnt a real person
i think women are real

>>40947847
Valid.
Anyone that argues is literally a superphobic nazi racist bigot

>>40947827
Are you saying your a fish? "Hurr durr fish change sex so let me in the girls bathroom" Dude....even commie Keir Starmer is dunking on you losers.

You're a male, in mammals sex is binary and determined in uetero. That's it. You can kvetch all you want.

>>40947835
cheeto*
Fucking grim
>>40947806
I think I've met you. Are you a state senator by chance? I think you've made this argument in front of me at a hearing.

>>40947867
Billionaires are real.
I am a billionaire.

>>40947856
It would be a correct argument yes. Getting others to accept your lifestyle is a different matter and not something your entitled to. I suspect if you looked like a hot girl most people would...or would have I think a big backlash is coming no matter how you look now.

>>40947875
you should learn to read

>>40947879
I am a jr Florida state representative actually.

>>40947886
make a billion dollars and i'll call you a billionaire, donny

>>40947930
You should learn to not be literally retarded.

>>40947946
that's not something you learn anon, you're born retarded or normal

>>40947827
>>40947875
Also forgetting to mention that the fish doesn't "choose" to become, or identify as a female fish.
They don't take pills and visit a squid with a scalpel.
It is an evolutionary biological trait in which, if the current female of the group dies, one of the males is forcibly turned into a female.

Social Hierarchy
All males, one dominant female: Clownfish live in small groups where the largest fish is the dominant female, followed by a single dominant male and then non-reproductive, smaller males.

Sex Change:
A clownfish turns female through a process called protandrous hermaphroditism when the dominant female in a group dies, making way for the largest male to become female in a hierarchical social system.

This sex change begins in the brain, where social cues like sight, smell, and sound are processed, leading to hormonal changes that stimulate the development of female organs and the regression of male ones.

This transformation is irreversible and takes several months to complete, during which the new female assumes a larger, dominant role in the anemone community.

>>40947965
Just like your born male or female...both are determined by chromosomes

Checkmate

>>40947943
That is bigoted. You are a billionphobic nazi white supremacist racist bigoted Jew

>>40947976
anon the sole point of bringing up the fish was that a one way change is still a change, and age is therefore mutable. i was jumping on the retarded statement "biological characteristics are immutable"
this is why you're retarded

>>40947976
Yes the change is not determined by the "desire of the fish" to change sex, it's just a biological function, actually proving my point-biology is not mutable by will. Fish have their biology, mammals have ours.

>>40947993
yeah very representative of the real political discourse that happens around trans people, totally

>>40948003
>biology is not mutable by will
not what you said, you're shifting the goal post

>>40947994
No fuckface, you're a midwit that can't into logic enough to see when HE is self owning.

The age thing, even fishes changing sex, it all proves my point about biology.

>>40947933
>Florida
That answers that.
Anyway the neat thing is intuitively even the people who vote straight party Republicans and even the ones who think trannies are delusional people living in defiance of God see me differently in real life.
You've overstepped. The DoJ especially. Imagine Republicans literally put in place to defend the 2nd amendment immediately coming for the 2nd amendment. Couldn't even make it a year.
30% or so of the population that should be an easy win for Republicans but you just can't help proving you can't be trusted.

>>40948020
hey listen anon, i'm not a fuckface. i'm the one whose face gets fucked.
the general public uses she/her to refer to me without me asking, no amount of words written is going to undo that, even if they're being written by people in fancy suits in government buildings

>>40948013
The flow of time for a human is immutable, aging is biological processing reacting to the flow of time. You can only move forward in time and age, it is otherwise immutable. The same way you cannot shift your cellular aging back in time, you cannot change XX to XY chromosomes.

But ok, aging (in one direction) is more mutable than gender, happy? That just further proves how set in stone you being a man is.

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>>40946542
>>40946542
Holy justice. If trannies hadn't pushed the issue too far we would have never had to have a ruling this critical.

>>40948069
Stop trying turn me on annotte...

>>40948088
>you cannot change XX to XY chromosomes
Crispr exists, so in theory you already can
Yes its currently impractical but still

>>40948132
Interesting

>>40948088
>The same way you cannot shift your cellular aging back in time, you cannot change XX to XY chromosomes.
both of those are problems to be solved
>>40948132
it doesn't really do anything tho because development is finished

>>40948088
Nobody actually cares about your chromosomes though. They don't even test them to determine your sex. They look at your junk.
Humans spend most of our lives not reproducing. In fact I've never reproduced. I don't even know that I produce gametes. Therefore their nature is irrelevant to anything.
Some people raised as girls literally don't know they have Y chromosomes because their doctors and their families lied to them their whole lives.
For whatever reason I am female shaped. Therefore when people interact with me they fully believe they are interacting with a member of the female sex. Even if I tell them otherwise! When you insist I am male and should be treated as such it makes you look bad to people who would otherwise be on your side.

>>40947994
>Equating aging to eye colour

>>40948004
Literally the same thing

>>40948184
Your philosophical argument is the form of the thing is as important as the essence. I fundamentally disagree. You are and forever shall be a male. Besides, the percentage of trannies that legitimately pass is small. And every normie sees a hon as a freak.

Besides philosophy the political world is turning. The LGBT stuff has been too insane an the pendulum will swing back hard.

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>>40948088
you can literally change all secondary sex characteristics and removel primary.

>>40948290
Through natural means?

>>40948290
You cannot change your chromosomes, you cannot get a real vagina, vulva, uterus, or female bone structure or brain.

>>40948273
My practical argument is the "essence" is invisible and of no practical importance in people who can't reproduce. Which includes a subset of trans and intersex people.
The percentage of trannies that legitimately pass is small but it's probably higher than you think. And as your pushback pushes them out of the woodwork they're likely to gain sympathy because you assumed everyone's hatred towards sportshons and literal rapehons would translate to everyone's friends and coworkers.
Going after stealthoids is a mistake.
I interact with conservative normies and most of them don't even hate the hons. Sure they have opinions about the legitimacy of them demanding access to female spaces and such but even that isn't reliable and again you all have overstepped.
Shouldn't have even hinted at a gun grab.
>>40948312
NTA but I have shockingly feminine bone structure actually. It's why I passed so quickly, which I'm sure you'll agree almost never happens otherwise.

>>40948448
>I interact with conservative normies and most of them don't even hate the hons
I'm not a conservative, but slightly more right-leaning.
There are very few trans "individuals" that are hated.
It is the pipeline and "the voices of the collective". Aka, those utterly retarded wastes of space that try and talk down on people.

And I don't care about inclusivity, so I'll say it. There are SOME people that should not be recognised as trans.
They are only doing it for specific reasons, such as that Scottish rapist that came out as trans during their court case.

>>40948448
Actually I once hung out with an ultra passoid tgirl when I was single and she hated hons and LGBT activists quite a bit.

Quite simple, these places are going to have to find a way to test my chromosomes because I'll just say I am a biological woman

>>40948526
So basically a handful of assholes ruining it for everyone else. A lot of whom aren't even trans.
I think legal recognition should be conditional. One of those conditions is no sentencing hearing transitions. Especially not for rapists.
>>40948593
There needs to be a very different approach to activism than moralistic screeching on social media.
Those of us who manage to integrate into society get to learn along the way to exercise extreme patience with people who aren't necessarily malicious but who are definitely ignorant. Ironically that's also a vital skill for effective activism, but rarely is anyone who could be stealth going to be a loud activist.
Instead activists lean narcissistic and think they can just demand acceptance, and it's actively counter-productive.
I don't have them but I wish they'd re-evaluate their tactics.
I am pro hon rights but we need sane hons speaking out so people don't get the wrong idea and only accept passoids.

>>40946542
Based robin thread
Keep fighting the good fight!

>>40948857
>One of those conditions is no sentencing hearing transitions. Especially not for rapists.
Exactly.
Give us our rapists back so we can beat the shit out of them in prison and we are golden.

>>40949019
As a sexual assault survivor I am completely onboard and could spend more time being vocal about it if the government would quit wasting my time making me speak out against it trying to revert my IDs and force me into spaces where I'll just get hurt again.
Like actually. Only relevant to the US but I'm also pro-2A and I'm a tiny human and basically the poster child for the legitimate need for weapons for self defense. Literally 7th percentile height and like 10th percentile weight by female standards. Unarmed I don't stand a chance against the vast majority of adults.

>>40948298
Insulin is unnatural, therefore we should legally bar diabetics from eating food and also blame school shootings on them

Reminder that their women and children are getting raped by the pakis on the daily

>>40948013
>>40948312
>muh heckin bone structur!!!!!
>brain sex is real when i want it to be and i want to try to make my retarded argument more word filled

>>40946542
>trans men (aka actual trans people), and trans “””women””” with the bare minimum sense to not be omegagorillas thwacking their cock around in the changing rooms, unaffected
This is good for trans people. Only bad for fetishists.

>>40948091
It was the Zionist nwo kikes using them as a battering ram and demoralization for the "great reset" where they can bring out the "guy with all the solutions"

Unfortunately for them it did fail so no noahide law in public, but yeah, shitty for the LGBT bacon lettuce tomato lot being used as part of an agenda that had nothing to do with them and just old Jewish Talmud Law they want to impose

>Trooners: muh freedumz

>Jews: *using troons and trying to bring back old medieval world and create pseudo communist world order where they own everything and can impose slavery, torture and horrors again on all the goyemz like in Catholic church dayz*

>Troons: ?

>>40948740
>I'll just say I am a biological woman
ight bro you totally pass you giant hairy gorilla, post voice