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so i'm five years on HRT and i'm realising that i'm literally just a creepy skinwalking agp freak with a male essence who's essentially just an autistic man with a special interest for trans people and i make everyone in my life extremely uncomfortable. what do i do?
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join the club, i transitioned because i cant get pussy, now im friends with a bunch of trannies who all threw away hot gfs and want to cut their huge dicks off
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>>40947535
im never gonna get cutting your dick off as a tranny

there is literally 0 point, getting an axe wound isn't worth alleviating dysphoria which i think is just induced by porn anyway
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>>40947535
i'm not even attracted to cis women, i'm basically just a dysgenic loser who never fit in with men but i also lack that female essence that trutrans women just have. i don't have a shred of natural femininity in body or soul whereas my trutrans friends just effortlessly exude woman energy. i have the vibes of a creepy mentally ill man and look like one too.
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>>40947568
yeah ive cried in front of the mirror before because i literally just look like a man with boobs whereas i see all my trans friends as women and see nothing male about them, and not even in the performative bimbo hsts way. just in a totally natural way thats true to their personality. iwn have that. people look at me and see im obviously a creepy male nerd. theres no escape from it ever
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>>40947515
>male essence
there's no such thing. essentialism is stupid. adopt constructivism instead. it doesn't matter who you are at heart, the only thing that matters is outcomes.

focus on outcomes. the only outcomes you mentioned are "being creepy" and "making people uncomfortable". find out whats creepy and uncomfortable about you and fix it, find a way to remove there behaviours from the range of behaviours you exhibit.

you do exactly that or go to a therapist who will try to explain the exact same thing to you in 2 or more sessions.
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>>40947604
what you're essentially asking us to do is the same thing as telling an autistic person to fix themselves by masking. it doesnt make the autism go away and its exhausting, its exhausting to pretend to be a woman when im obviously not one, im not trans in the way other people are. im a confused man of some kind, but saying that doesnt make it all just go away and make me want to be masculine. literally im a man trapped in a mans body whereas my trutrans friends are all women
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>>40947604
not taking advice from hons
ESPECIALLY not taking advice from retards that think therapy works
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>>40947621
>pretend to be a woman when im obviously not one
woman is an outcome, not an identity. if you desire that outcome, why is working for it a problem? sure masking might hurt, but you must find a way to fit yourself into society. i'm autistic too and transitioning actually helped me with that, for some reason my autistic behaviours are not that autistic if its a girl me doing them and not a boy me

and if desired outcome is not reacheble, it's time to accept it
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>>40947515
also, i assume you don't pass, what is it that makes you not pass?
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>>40947685
i'm not the anon you're talking to but since you replied to OP there really isn't anything even remotely feminine about me. i can't even girlmode because i just look like a crossdressing man. i basically just wear the same black hoodie and t-shirts every day. my face is horrible in a way that FFS can't redeem, my body is almost impressively masculine and i'm also a soulhon.
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>>40947515
Same. Same time on hrt too and i waste so much time on here it could probably be considered a special interest as well.
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>>40947703
well, if its really that bad and its not just you self-hating, then you kinda gotta give up and detransition. because, lets be real, how exactly are you gonna achieve this goal of becoming a woman?

also soulhon sounds so eerie, like the deepest and the most ultimate version of hon
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I'm convinced these threads are made by nonwhites that think you get like, a participation trophy for being a generic white guy.
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>>40947672
> if desired outcome is not reacheble, it's time to accept it

i cant, thats what gender dysphoria is. so all hons should die i guess.

but desu im not one of those OMG I HAVE GD SO IM A WOMAN I HAVE TO BE HOW DARE YOU

like i think ultimately im a mentally ill man and ive been so hypnotized by femininity and my own male sexuality fucking me over like a gun backfiring in my face, so maybe, maybe in the end all my friends are acting to, and they are just better actors than me. well thats still a horrible thought. i lose at everything i try to do i guess.
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People know that HRT isn't magic. If you eat your weight in Cheetos, taking HRT isn't going to make you a petite girl. You have to actually do a lot of work to pass and some of that might be plastic surgery.
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>>40947752
soulhon is like when you go on those obscure sissy sites and you see 50 year old men calling themselves womens names, thats what we are but we're in our 20s. jsut a matter of time now.
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>>40947752
i've always considered it but i can't be happy as a man. i was really unhappy before. then again i'm unhappy now too. i don't know.
>>40947793
if your underlying skeleton is male then plastic surgery just won't work. i've only ever seen it make a difference for trutrans. if i get i'll just look like even more of a weird sissy gooner. to be honest i'd been planning to get some later this year but maybe i'll just spend the money on something else.
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>>40947836
idk, i just castrate myself, remove my beard and body hair. in social situations i try not to be creepy and not try and impose my weird genderfuckery on anyone, just act like a guy with long hair, which is easy because its what i am.
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>>40947783
i have no real advice but let me yap out my thoughts

>i cant (accept it)
i know it's hard. i myself have spend a decent amount of time crying about how i will never be able to have a baby. i have to accept it and i can't. the only thing i can do is just proceed with life

>hons should die
ultimately there's no "should". you're the god of your life, trying to order the infinite chaos of the universe.

>OMG I HAVE GD SO IM A WOMAN I HAVE TO BE HOW DARE YOU
me neither. i'm more like "omg i look like a woman, speak like a woman and am recognised as a woman so im a woman", basically only outcomes matter

>ultimately im a man
yet again you resort to essentialist labels. you're not a mentally ill man, you're just you, a manifestation of the randomness of this universe. your sexuality isnt male sexuality, its a "you-sexuality".

>my friends are actors too
everyone is acting, people are performative af, you should've noticed that already
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>>40947855
yeah i get that. i mean i essentially manmode. i have this weird situation at work where i used to present female at the start and everyone referred to me as she/her and so on, without me asking them to. then i had sort of a breakdown and stopped that, but new people join and meet me manmoding and still she/her me because everyone else introduces me that way i guess and they're just confused. it's uncomfortable. they will likely fire me soon though so not an issue for much longer.
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> i make everyone in my life extremely uncomfortable.
I know OP is a woman because they typed this while pretending to be a male.
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>>40947568
>>40947621
then just be a man???
at least you're self aware, but like come on... this is pretty simple. being a man doesn't require you to "fit in" or whatever. just stop thinking about gender and stop hanging out with troons and go live your life.
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>>40947942
what the fuck are you talking about
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>>40947958
Actual males spend their lives invisible and attract social interaction when they are clearly 4-5 times better than people around them. Only somebody born female is physically capable of typing "i make everyone in my life extremely uncomfortable."
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>>40948019
okay lol i wish that were true. i can post my moidy forearm or my male q-angled thigh with ywnbaw carved into it for proof i'm a moid if you want me to.
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>I can take some random image from google
No thanks Margerette.
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>>40948019
trvuke. also, people who actually make people uncomfortable usually do that bc they are clueless about it
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>>40948085
reverse image search this then you filthy kike. yes i wear phontyhose sometimes like the creepy skinwalker i am
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>>40948110
Whoa a whole 144p.
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>>40948110
holy mental illness batman
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>>40948110
post height, whr, underbust, cup size, biacromial, inseam, feet size and maybe also digit ratio bc im curious
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>>40947535
How does being a tranny fix this? I refuse to believe trooning is less work and effort than putting the work in to make yourself the kind of man who gets pussy
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>>40947568
>trutrans
it's so amusing how all these new retarded terms keep coming out. All trannies are dudes coping, even the ones who "pass"
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>>40948141
seek autism diagnosis
>>40948140
i honestly don't consider myself mentally ill, i just think i have really bad life circumstances and my coping mechanisms are a lot for some people
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>>40948141
>>40948140
>>40948110
It's fake retards.
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>>40947597
The escape is acknowledging you're a dork and owning it. You can be a dorky male and still be successful in dating and if you're not content with that you can CHANGE and develop new habits and routines and get new hobbies. Even if you're a turbo manlet you can do fine, but instead you chose to larp in some fantasy land and take drugs to cope. Nigger.
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>>40948110
Cute, petite, squeezable. I would. Would kiss the scars too, cause scars make me want to pine over cute girls till they feel better. Keep in mind this sort of thing scares most people away though. Why? Because some use it as a manipulation tactic/its a control freak sort of deal. I see it as a cute girl who needs to be nursed back to health, but yeah you get me.
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>>40948174
even cis women are dudes coping if you think about it
>>40948179
i got one since the age of 9 nona, if you got diagnosed after the year 2019 then you are fakeautistic in my opinion
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>>40947604
abandon essentialism, abandon constructivism, abandon individuality, adopt sympoiesis tbqh
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>>40948215
>even cis women are dudes coping if you think about it
I don't see how they're like dues but they do cope A LOT
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>>40948202
there's nothing cute or petite about me, let's make that crystal fucking clear LOL i literally look like an ogre. i probably do have a bit of a manipulative streak or like let's say i could be a good manipulator if i wanted to be but i don't have much to gain from it. really i'm just ugly and pathetic and moidy ahaha i don't know how to describe myself otherwise.
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>>40948202
you sound needy
>>40948251
post pic
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>>40948174
newfag
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>>40948270
there are jeets scraping unsees and making AI porn of people's faces lol am i fuck posting my face here.
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>>40948283
Ok so why do you faggots need all these new meaningless terms
>>40948297
>am i fuck posting my face here
t. jeet
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>>40948330
They aren't new, trutrans has always been a thing on this board and "true transsexual" existed in medical literature before you were born
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>>40947604
>there is no core emergent self with an embedded history which cannot be wholly reconstituted like a Ship of Theseus
This is actually delusional
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>>40948365
so a true tranny is someone who isn't doing it as a fetish I'm guessing and actually feels and thinks they're a real woman/man
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>>40948330
it's a british isles thing you spastic. "am i fuck" = "no i'm fucking not" but with emphasis.
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>>40948251
Just accept a compliment you cute little retard.
The manipulation comes from low self esteem, as well as the cutting. All symbiotic with one another. As a transsexual myself, it helps to place the majority of your attention to things other than your body if you can. Either a goal or a hobby. That way, you can redirect your worth to another task.
Too, honestly ignoring your body as much as possible until you have the mental bandwidth to deal with it. Dark showers. Layered clothes/undressing as little as possible. That way, when it comes time to deal with your body at all, you're coming in with a much clearer mind than if you fixated on it all day long. Easier said than done, but distractions basically are what help me most. Or, you build yourself up from what you enjoy, not build yourself up from what you hate. You learn to navigate life with what you hate, but not build yourself up from it. If any of that schizo rambling made sense, lol.
>>40948270
I like to be helpful.
I have gotten that complaint before though, so you are likely correct. Usually I give my friends space to combat it but maybe that's not the most effective way to go about it. Don't know.
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>>40948381
>british isles
t. jeet in other words
Looking at your average bong woman I can only imagine what British trannies look like
>>40948400
You like to be needed, I used to be like that once and it's unproductive and damaging to yourself unless it's some weird fetish
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>>40948429
can't disagree with you there, good thing i'm not a bong.
>>40948400
i simply can't do that because frankly your body is everything. i do still have to go outside everyday and have people treat me like a subhuman because of my appearance. even engaging in hobbies or things i like i will have something happen or have someone treat me differently and it makes me realise once again how much looking like this ruins my life. i do wear baggy layered clothes like every day even when it's too hot and ultimately i still find shit to nitpick about my appearance. idk what to do anymore.
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>>40948429
What's the alternative exactly? Since you're right, I don't see why anyone would want to be around me if I fail to provide them anything. Did not realize how unhealthy that sounds till sounding it out, so you make a very good point. Thanks for that.
>fetish
Nah.
>>40948515
It'll always effect you. There's not a cure I've found, except finding ways to mitigate how much it effects you when you need to go about your day. Too, oestrogen mitigates a large brunt of that pain. Even if its just to yourself. It sucks that a lot of people hate us, true, but the relief makes it worth it for me to bee myself in spite of the public reception. Your call though.
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>>40947891
yes i noticed everyone is acting, but to what extent? i want to be real with people, i want them to know me and i want to know them, the real them. but if everything is just fake what is the point
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>>40947515
Do whatever you want just try and develop a better sense of self esteem. No one who matters will mind if you're non binary or a feminine man, or actually trans just seriously self loathing and depressed and autistic.
Just take stock of where you are and find a way of being and talking about yourself that you're happier with. This kind of negative self talk will unironically fuck you up beyond belief. Wishing you the best anon, it sounds like a difficult position you're in with yourself right now
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>>40949135
What this is is boundaries anon. People put them up because they either stress themselves out if they share too much, or are worried they'll stress others out if they share too much, and they don't wanna get stressed out by having too much shared with them.
Often over time, they'll open up a bit. Not always. Some people are so guarded you'll never get it. They probably have their reasons. Deliberate or not.
I'm learning of the normies cause I have to deal with them interpersonally a lot now. I'm realising boundaries are things I want to have for myself sometimes too because sharing certain things about myself and having them received weirdly hurts a lot, and also having people be mad that I've shared too much has happened a lot now. I caught myself just before a trauma dump the other day and managed to divert it before it went there and it made the interaction with that person a lot easier.
Anyway there's no pressure to learn the language of the normies. If my main goal didn't require it I literally never would. But I need to be able to communicate with them without stressing them out in order to get the things I need. I'm so glad I have autistic friends and this stupid website and journalling to be able to just not have to play their stupid social games.



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