some say that it can prevent breast growth and i have a few questions regarding that
1. does it really work?2. what is the reccomended dosage of e and ralox?3. do i also need to take an AA?i am also aware that not much research has been done on this topic
>>409552231. Not really and it made my hairline worse. It raises t alot, I think the longer you are on it.2. Depends3. Yes.
>>40955250depends on what? also if i take a lower dose of e without an AA will i get smaller tits or will the result eventually be the same?
>>40955538Small dose only makes changes happen slower but they still come. Just use a binder if you are so scared of boobs or save money for a top surgery
>>40955580alr thanks
>>40955538youll get boosted dht and upper-end-of-male-spectrum e, morphing you into a gyno italian instead of the roman femboy u wish u were>>40955580this poster is a hon and hates you personally disregard her lies and stop being such a kike you only need 50mg of bica daily unless you have phatt knuts or already weigh as much as a gyno italian get your money up fgt
>>40955700>you only need 50mg of bica dailyto look more feminine?
no it doesnt workestrogen will overpower what little breast growth blocking effect the ralox has.if you try and take only small amounts of estrogen, then testosterone wont be blocked, and raloxifene will massive increase testosterone as it is taken by bodybuilders when coming off a cycle to restart their testiclesif you take an anti androgen to combat this like say bica, bica increases testosterone levels as it prevents the free T binding to the receptors, so it increases and floats (uselessly) in the blood, but because ralox also increases testosterone not all of it will be blocked and the AA will not be working. You end up at a point where you are considering taking like multiple anti androgens and a SERM and all of these are synthetic chemicals not recommended to be taken by anyone long term because of liver health risk and all other issues.so basically no. it doesnt work, and if it did work there would be a lot more cute femboys out there.
>>40955761to suppress t's continued effects on tissue and to annull the excess e to dht male metabolic pipeline, allowing you to take EVEN LESS e and actually GET effects - hairline loss means NOTHING IS HAPPENING
>>40955851how does e raise dht?
>>40955875yeah i thought only prog could backdoor metabolize
ai tells me that applying estriol cream to my balls can suppress my T production, has anyone tried that?
>>40955875it cant but i think if you fuck up by taking too much E you can actually cuck yourself by throwing your other hormones out of balance and getting no effects as a result. something to do with SHBG.
>>40955830doomer with a shitty liver speaking, move over grandpa chems are the futureunironically just take more bica, if you can handle it great, it builds up and due to how it works if you're getting good suppression it'll eventually lower t production after long enough regardless of dose, and if you actually start at an 'okay' e dose (not low) it can just fuck all your shit up so you never get boobs. just DONT TAKE THINGS OTHER THAN BICAyuros already knew
>>40955830>so basically no. it doesnt work:(in that case how do boymoders hide their boobs(is it just by having baggy clothes and binding?)
>>40955951baggy clothes and being anorixic are principle components of boymoderism
>>40955932i highly doubt this. i dont think t production lowers plus i believe taking e will always lead to tits
>>40955951Most likely you only get a cup from e anyway
>>40955994most people get B-C
i got c cups but it just looks like bee stings on my titanic ribcage
>>40955999No, a. Everyone wishes for a c cup
>>40955994how would u know that
>>40955875it doesn't. t does it all by itself, and you have more now. it's why beer gutties get bald and like >>40955922 's blessed dubs nailed, your shbg gets fucked and your body goes 'ope guess we're 50' instead of 'oh we're changing gears' and then fun things like osteoporosis and hairloss happen (not the kind you want, that stuff'll get thicker)>>40955985consider the following:bica doesn't do anything to t production. it messes with t uptake. what do your testes need to see to create t?that's right! for some reason more t.and if the testes can't use the t that's there...they fucking stop making it. read the literature brah, why do you think it's a prostatitis drug? and yes, e will always lead to tits... but e in guys leads to fatty tits, e in girls leads to milk ducts (at a certain threshold).non-plastic c's in males is lies, but remember _everything_ on this board is trust me bro
>>40956012means thems is a-cups bb srry u found out like this
bica feels awful because the T is still in your bloodstream. it does not feel healthy at all. raloxifene doubly so. you will feel like an 80 year old man on chemotherapy.
>>40955971naturlich, take notes anones
>>40956145you just didnt vibe
is spiro a good alternative to bica?
>>40956175i felt really good on estrogen but i dont want boobs:(
>>40956219idk man should you use the drug that isn't actually for that and only incidentally helps, sort of, at super high doses, and is only really used one place where the healthcare is a meme? should you just maybe microdose steroids to feminize? dunno m80, maybe youre a piss fetishist, they love it
>>40956337ok i'll be a bit less of a shithead but you're boosting your t. why on earth would you take something with no effect on t production or uptake, whose aa performance is DEPENDENT on synergising with something you're taking less of (e)?
>>40956434doesnt e lower t tho,so wont bica work better with more e?
>>40956676e only lowers t at appropriate blood levels (not at h̶o̶n̶ 'permaboymoderdosing/titlet' amts), and otherwise just promotes hormone jungle juice. bica doesn't synergise unfortunately :( it does only what it does, at the levels you provide, the rest is up to your body. if a dose wasn't enough to meaningfully reduce t effects, one needs to up the dose. it is unlikely that if you needed more bica at the beginning of your therapy that tapering will ever be feasable, as it means your very cells hunger for the murder hormone and will stop at nothing to masculinize you; reroll. but if you notice it IS working as intended and rather immediately then you could chance taking less as you change more, but it's not like your tissues are going to benefit from being able to soak up the available, albeit reduced, t. it cant and wont get 'better' though. if you need the pep, it takes 2 weeks to build up and 2 more to do anything...
