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I think this tweet perfectly encapsulates the transgender disagreement

Pro trans will instinctively agree with it and anti trans will instinctively realize how stupid it is
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their not sending they're best
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>>40962552
you probably look like a fucking goomba irl
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>>40962552
Considering that there's a significant amount of people expressing both these views at the same time, i think its (you) thats retarded here
/end thread
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>>40962545
I’m anti trans and I gender trannies as women (derogatory)
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>>40962585
you are literally in the meme
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Both conservatives and leftist trannies are judeo-christian Victorian feminists that enforce sexual standards for men.
That is why femboys were given free reign in pagan rome. Tr*nny misandrists came after.
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>>40962552
Trannies and Christians are apart of the same team
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>>40962545
Man wearing a skirt is a faggot. A failure of a man, but still man.
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>>40962968
>I-i never said thaat
>>40962697
>y-youre in the hecking sperg picture!!! Thatmakes you WRONG and me heckin RIGHT!!!!
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>>40962968
Your urge to demand men act this certain way and be “tough” is a symptom of the fact that female sexual standards cause competition within males in a majority of animal species. Terror and self defense is only necessary because of women and the men that defend them. Wanting men and other men forcing you to act a certain way is a direct result of female societal control over you. Women force you to kill your own for them. The only justification ever given men to be essential slaves is to “protect women and children”, never their own selves. Men that allowed themselves to be slaves to what females want from them are the real failure of men. “Gayness” and brotherhood was never liberal, and Christianity is not right wing.
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>>40963029
>men are tough because society
men are tough because life is unsafe and before we decided to create horrors beyond our comprehension the added 40lbs of muscle made a big difference in being able to defend yourself and your tribe from getting eaten or raped or killed some other way. Social norms while evolving and devolving in a variety of ways, are an extension of this fundamental instinct for safety. We don't need that anymore since we're rapidly killing the planet and we're more of a danger to ourselves than we've ever been so muscle only helps so much.

TL;DR you got it backwards
it wasn't society that forced men to be tough, life forced men to be tough and society is a manifestation of that need.
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>>40962545
people just want to hate you no matter what. "ur not a man anymore" just means "i don't respect you anymore".
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There reason for this is because people prone to reactionary thought and pro fasc ideology do not hold any belief at all to be sacred or true in their heart asode from "my team win". They want their subgroup to be in charge and have all the power and freedom. Just watch how they are anti tax unless their side does it, anti debt unless their side does it, anti free speech violations until it's them doing the violations. I could go in all day about this point. In the scenario discussed by OP the reactionary in question does not actually hold either belief in their heart, they are simply wanting an outgroup they don't like, to suffer. That's it, no grand design or faith to an ideal. As long as the outgroups suffer they will be happy, even if they are themselves suffering too
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They don't want to hate you cause you're trans, they want to hate you cause you're different. Hence the constant foolish contradictions, that when you trace them back to the source is really just resistance to moving outside their comfort zone.

I'm neurodivergent. That's all, not fully into any particular spectrum as I exhibit symptoms from several scripts and medication to treat them demasks symptoms that can't be treated. How it presents is I approach problems differently, express emotions and sentiments differently. Still on the same foundation of don't be a dick, and try to leave the place the same or better than you found it, level of social awareness.

But I'm still met with prejudice, systemic even as people categorize my differences as threatening even though they never truly quantify how they are because I didn't haarm or coerce people as it is anathema to me. But I'm still ostracized, even met with violence.

I see that's what they do to you, and that being trans while at it's fundamental layer someone that has existed through written history. They've forced you into this stance where you must explain yourselves simply so they have a basis to dispute your validity.

But what I don't understand is that it doesn't. Your existence is the proof of your existence. They cannot deny that any more than they can unring a bell.

Anyway, I hope this reminds you that you are not different, or alone, and that there are those who do not question your existence nor believe anyone has the right to.
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>>40963161
I didn't necessarily agree that's been relevant for several millennia now. The formation of society precluded that except in a few instances. Ancient civilizations from Babylonian, Greek, Roman, had already formed alternate methods for selecting and protecting tribes that had more to do with religion and resources. Since the magna carta/Meiji era even religion took a back seat in selecting leaders, there are still institutions that do in a limited fashion, but now leaders and power structures are defined by resources, and nepotism.

It's why the patriarchy is a myth. Projecting power through physicality is just propaganda to influence simpler understanding. We've had numerous world leaders and corporate managers who have been women who have influenced the shape of the world to great effect. If it were a patriarchy, that wouldn't exist.



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