misandry is actually misogyny, especially if experienced by a trans woman
misandry isn't real
>>40964122This, it's an antiquated term.It's just called feminism now.
>>40964250women are marketing geniuses, they know what sells
>>40963875close enough, but it actually wasnt ever misandry at all. the "misandry" that men experience when they dont live up to patriarchal standards is actually a byproduct of misogyny. they see them as women and therefore less, because its misogynistic.
Did God create woman from Adam's rib? There aren't any missing ribs in men so why does this myth exist? Did men want women so badly that they felt like a piece of themselves was torn away and given to women?
>>40964337>god
>>40964362the most high almighty
>>40964337men wanted to be women so badly that they wanted to blame women for stealing their woman part away yes. it even sounds like it makes sense actually
>>40964419I wish people could stop blaming women, when women are basically always innocent.
Midandry isn't real and misogyny is a byproduct of a hierarchical society, by low rank 'master' against any class 'slave'. High ranking master-demographics don't show the same hostility towards the slaves as low ranking ones.Today, nearly everyone is a slave and thinking that you are a master is what makes you a slave.
>>40964474how do we elevate women in the hierarchy?
>>40963875Fucking feeble minded snowflakes. If your biggest problem is getting called sir when you're a MAN maybe growing up wrapped in wool didn't do you any good. Must be nice not having any REAL FUCKING PROBLEMS if only you would shut the fuck up about fake oppression
>>40964517im a woman!
>>40963875not this bullshit again
>>40964122Mysogyny isn't real.
>>40964716then why do people say it is?
>>40964426trvue... but i understand they cant help it when it hurts so much to not be able to fully be one>>40964594>sage in namefieldfag
>>40963875You guys are only mean to Serano because she's a hon, if it was a passoid who said the same things as her she would be seen as genius
>>40964908she is a passoid
>>40964926she's still nerdy, I'm talking about bimbofied passoids
>>40963875Posted it again award
>>40964971problem with nerds?
>>40964994I'm one myself loljust that people would prefer to listen to someone who's really appealing and attractive and Serano isn'tif it was Hunter Schafer or Blaire White who said what Serano said everyone would say they are based and some shit like that, instead of mocking them like they constantly do with Serano
>>40964740Money. Power. Politics. >>40964330>close enough, but it actually wasnt ever misandry at all. the "misandry" that men experience when they dont live up to patriarchal standards is actually a byproduct of misogyny. they see them as women and therefore less, because its misogynistic.That's only half of it. Feminists see men as abusers and therefore less. I'm one for that misandry and mysogyny both exist and feed on one another. >>40964337>Did God create woman from Adam's rib? There aren't any missing ribs in men so why does this myth exist? Did men want women so badly that they felt like a piece of themselves was torn away and given to women?Lies. Give me back my rib. NOW. >>40964474>Midandry isn't real and misogyny is a byproduct of a hierarchical society, by low rank 'master' against any class 'slave'. High ranking master-demographics don't show the same hostility towards the slaves as low ranking ones. >>Today, nearly everyone is a slave and thinking that you are a master is what makes you a slave.Then what do you call hating men for no reason and denying their humanity and indivuality for no reason? What do you call centering women as if that's a justification to needlessly step on the feelings and well-being of half the population? I'd maybe believe you, if "not all men" wasn't a demonic incantation in the ears of every afab. Women are the low-rank "master" in the sense that men are all abusers and so she gets to exert whatever power she wants over him and have it encouraged in the name of social justice.You're right that we shouldn't be treating other people this way, in any case. People are people, not monsters or slaves or masters or what have you. It should be simple.
>>40965145>for no reasonmen commit most crime
>>40965161Do I commit the most crime? Or are you just using that to justify not treating me like a human? Are you REALLY taking the same route as actual racists and not seeing the irony at all?
>>40965161And I say "I" and "me" to refer to all men. I'm speaking for men. It's not personal.
>>40964495That's the thing, there are already women of the master class, same as men. The class isn't determined by some shit like ethnicity or gender, it's mostly about money and how much power you have to exert your will onto others.
>>40965145>what do you call hating men for no reason or putting women on a pedestal (sic)I call it the trap that ignorant liberals and foolish leftists fall into - identity politics. Basically taking an intro to feminist lit class in community college and falling victim to the dunning krueger effect. Many such cases, lotta women be dumb as shit. Men fall into it too but typically the opposite way where they are inundated with messaging towards women (and by the aforementioned dunning krueger libshit women) and start to doubt their own place in the world based off of failing to meet arbitrary standards of masculinity imposed on them through subversive messaging about what would otherwise be considered an alright message for everyone. The real culprit at the end of the day is consumerism fueled hyper individualistion of society that commodifies personality. Think capitalism in the labor market, but instead of capitalism, it's neo-lib feminism in the dating market. So, i guess, also capitalism.
>>40966339So you don't like capitalism?
would
>>40966339>using class reductionism + vulgar economism to insert reactionary ideologyoh boy! you're so clever and original
>>40968288Who are they reacting to?
>>40965176you commit the most crime
>>40964908nobody is being mean, I'm saying that people hate him for being too feminine as a man, not for being a woman cuz nobody sees him as that
>>40964994nerds who like anime, yeah
>>40966339Certain 'identity' politics are actually class politics when you investigate them deeply. Liberal analyses are wrong, but the solution isn't to ignore things completely. https://www.marxists.org/archive/eleanor-marx/works/womanq.htmhttps://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
>>40971569oh
misandry debate thread. i have a story.when i was little, in 2nd grade, i went to special ed. while at the time people used euphemisms and didn't give me a straight answer, it was because i kept refusing to attend first grade and because of anger issues. i thought it was some kind of punishment. all the teachers there were women, and all the students (except for me kinda) boys. it was a frequent occurrence for someone to be put in one of the three padded cells at the back of the classroom. while i can't remember the exact details of every incident, some time after graduating high school I would discover that their practice of not telling parents of these incidents was outlawed in the US right around the time it was happening. it's funny, 'cause at the time we didn't want them to tell our parents for fear we'd just get in more trouble after school.in discussions about misandry people often justify their hatred of men using past mistreatment by them. but i was mistreated by women, as a boy, yet i don't go around saying i hate women, women suck.i see these 'i hate men' statements made by other trans fems and it feels alienating. i know most people still see me as a man, especially since i'm closeted. i feel like if i speak out against it i'll be seen as less of a woman. i was a little misogynist back then. i respected strength and rebellion. not seeing girls in the sped class, and seeing how they often behaved better, made me think they were weak conformists. the stereotypical girly interests were all non-violent things. i wished my violence could be greater than that of adults, so i could escape them. i even thought that girl clothes were weaker because of how they supposedly limited physical activity.i wonder if my life could've gone differently. if i could've transitioned earlier. this isn't a clean story of gender identity, it's a messy one. i wonder what would've happened if i explored femininity earlier.
>>40971823>but i was mistreated by women, as a boy, yet i don't go around saying i hate women, women suck.I doI go around shitting on women irl and oti and they completely deserve itwomen are a whole other level of casual maliciousness above what men do
>>40963875I want to be a misandrist tranners property, just no castration
>>40971838castration and misandry go hand in hand
>>40971845I was hoping more just treated like complete shit & more like a beast while keeping my penis, she can laugh at it if she wants.
>>40971894sorry, the penis has to go
>>40971929Ugh fine, but I swear I better be an indoor slave
>>40964330Your trolls are weak. Show dick.
>>40971838No you don’t, your blood flow is in your dick & not your brain is all. Genuine misandrists are some vile people. It wouldn’t even be a sexy kind of torture even if you were a masochist. You’d just be tortured & mutilated until dead.
>>40963875Misandry is built on misogyny and vice versa. You have to be inherently misogynistic to be a misandrist, and inherently misandrist to be a misogynist. There's a reason feminism was never built on misandry and why the insertion of misogyny into the core beliefs of feminism killed the movement and resulted in it becoming misandrist.
>>40972000Interesting idea. Could you give a little more detail?
>>40971823That's the funny thing, the past 30 years or so, boys have had every aspect of their identity demonized by most institutions responsible with raising them. Boys are more physically active, more hyperactive and schools punish this. They tend to learn visually or practically more often than women yet they're taught with textbooks. When they act out due to this they're put on psych meds. Their sexuality is demonized at every stage, I remember the extent of sex ed, they spent as much time talking about rape as everything else, all the time adults would treat boys like troublemakers on base assumption, they would be rougher with them than with girls, their emotions would be disregarded "boys are easier" they say. We just break things, we don't need emotional support. Society primes male sexuality as inherently aggressive and dangerous, to the point where a significant number of boys, generally the poorly socialized ones, grow up thinking that having sexual or even romantic feelings for anyone is the equivalent of assault. Certainly there's no legitimate attempt to help enlighten them on such matters, that would be obscene. No, you just lead them out into a social minefield and see which ones make it out, the rest are left behind and "allowed" to grow from maladapted boys into dysfunctional men. By then, anything wrong with them is a failure of character. If they can't accept help from the same institution that forced them on psychiatric drugs to curb their need for physical activity they are irrational or paranoid. If they don't handle social or romantic opportunities well they're antisocial and if they can't handle the derision and abuse they get for trying to share their pain with the world they are dangerous. The modern world is well equipped to crush any stragglers in the male gender and by all accounts society likes it that way. People don't care, so what if men die? someone has to, might as well be them, that's what they're for.
>>40968776Men have. At least so far as our biased justice system decides. But I'm completely innocent, crime wise. I haven't even been in a fight before. I don't drink, smoke, or have sex. I literally just sit in my bedroom as much as possible after making ends meet and sulk about how fucked up the world is, sleeping, playing video games, and masturbating. I've been doing this since I was 12 with temperary intermissions, and there's nothing I really want, not even my own death. And I will go on to continue doing this for the forseeable future.So, no. I don't commit crime. You're just being a bigot. Even though some of a given group are bad, it's fucked up to pin that on innocent people.
>>40972048The hating of masculinity is built on internal feelings of the inferiority of femininity, be that absolving negative feminine traits by infantalizing and mystifying feminine people or by projecting one's own insecurities onto masculinity in order to make it lesser than femininity to compensate.The hating of femininity is built on internal feelings of the inferiority of masculinity, be that over compensating for internalized female worship by being outwardly vitriolic or attributing one's own failure to manhood onto perceived unfair treatment given to women. That's why behind a misandrist post you will almost always find a projecting transbian, a political lesbian or a womanfailed tranny. And behind every misogynist post an incel or a proto-tranny. There are no, literally 0 in the entire history of humanity, examples of true misandrists/misogynists who had good relationships with womanhood/manhood.
>>40971986dont have one i wasnt born with it
>>40972873>every time men are criticized its actually misogynyDAMN you people are brainwashed
>>40972080School system was build for boys. The stay silent and read a book way was made for boys. Its only now an issue as girls are allowed finally into schools and they outperform boys.Girls get radicalized against boys/men as they learn history and find out how unfair men treated them. Its the same with blacks hating whites.
>>40973652school system was built for girlsboys would be out in the fields
>>40964337The Great Lie: What is sold as male strength (authority, virtue) are rope binds on the minds of men. It is always said that man's authority is borrowed from a higher power that men acknowledge as the ultimate master over them. This is the condition of a slave and it follows that a man's virtue is the excellence of a slave. A virtuous man is like a prize horse. The woman, according to myth, is a part of man separated from him via a divine act of God, so both her difference from man and her similarity to man originate in this divine surgical intervention. Delivered as a gift of "companionship" she is a mere shadow of what was removed from man after his creation. As man's shadow she bears witness to his behavior and recites the commandments back to him whenever he strays fron the good path. A man without a shadow is suspicious, he is like a vampire who sustains his life via forbidden means. Thus every good slave must prove his goodliness by obtaining a shadow that once obtained will only ever be another tool to make him unfree. This is why a man can never truly find satisfaction in the love of a woman, unless he completely debases himself as a man, and a woman is always looking for a better spot next to a better man. Feminists covet men's vitality in vain since women are already fully vested with all results and ideally culminate all of man's labor in the creation of a child. The end result of slavery is that another slave will get the chance to usurp the legacy of his father's name and in doing so prove his own excellence as a slave, or another woman is born with her precious gift to saddle another man with a little ball and chain around his neck. This is the ugly scene that lies beneath life's greatest mysteries as revealed in the sacred texts. The only thing elided is God's identity. He is what he is. Any attempt to unmask the horrid creature at the heart of the grand design is treated with scorn and derision by men and women alike.
>>40973635>no argument
>>40973803Actually insane levels of revisionism here lmao.Also, the trend in the 20th century has been for schools to include more practical subjects, more play, things like PE, less theoretical, less discipline etc. SPECIFICALLY to accommodate boys, and yet they fail.
>>40973558Yeah you do. It's that dick shaped appendage at the top of your bonus hole. Are you new here or something?
>>40971569Another example of this is with cultural appropriation. Discrimination and prejudice are real problems, but the lens of cultural appropriation is a decidedly bourgeois way of interpreting things. Certain people, based on the circumstances of their birth, have the right to participate in a culture that others lack. They have a certain ownership over it. If you read discussions about what is and isn't cultural appropriation you'll find they often focus on the interests of the petty-bourgeoisie. They're concerned with whether outsiders are buying from "real" Japanese or Indians or whomever. If you're not "Japanese" you're not supposed to wear a kimono because you lack the correct blood quantum or place of birth. It actually reinforces the concept of nations, which is the opposite of what communists want to do. Leftists and liberals often talk about learning black history and people of color history as opposed to white, but that's still limiting your worldview to the racial system of the United States. You should be learning international and class history.>>40973803>>40973652The school system was built for neither boys nor girls. It was built for adults, particularly the ruling bourgeois class, their interests over that of children.
>>40975427PE is getting phased out
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