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how do i find a decent boyfriend when im a mentally ill unemployed loser who doesn’t have anyone irl and doesn’t go outside ;-;

people tell me i pass really well. i have a cute, passing, but soft/weak voice, im good at voice training and can do several voices. people seem to find me attractive, im skinny, i a soft, gentle, kind and feminine personality. i introspect a lot and love thinking about the world, and people always tell me im smart and that im really helpful. im creative, and i think i have good artistic taste. i think i have good intrapersonal skills, but i do get really really bad social anxiety. i get hit on a lot irl, not the types that i think i would pair well with though …i don’t want just a sex thing, i want connection

im so mentally ill, incompetent and codependent. is it over for me? i want a boyfriend so bad, im also so scared of men. im so pathetic
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>>40965912
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>>40965912
connection is so hard to find, every guy or girl i talk to immediately sexts or is pervy and gross, they never want to talk about how we’re doing or ramble about nerd shit its depressing
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>>40965943
U know if you guarantee the sex you also guarantee a conversation? They talk sex because they don't wanna get friendzone scammed. I'm not your attention friend slave ok you don't get to exploit me like this. This is why I never to talk women on the internet you're all so selfish. You get high quality attention only if I get high quality sex. These are the pillars of a relationship the best way to start one is talk about sex till you do it so both can get what they want how they want it. If you're good he will always stay if you're bad and also unwilling to improve/cooperate he's not going to wanna stick around to ramble about shit because that's you exploiting him at this point. When will women get this it's so fcking simple a 5 year old could figure it out.
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>>40965912
no idea, idk how anyone meets anyone even on the internet anymore, I feel like a relic of an earlier age of the internet and I haven't properly adjusted to discord servers and social media
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>>40966026
every discord server I join i end up leaving i don’t understand the culture and my online social media friends have to hold my hand through interactions because they’re all so fast and devoid of… idk… “substance?” I’m not sure if thats the right word
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>>40966007
If u truly want me to only talk to you girl or be your friend without sex you're gonna have to pay me for my time. My attention is valuable yours is hollow/empty and useless.
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>>40966073
esl retard hands typed this out
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>>40966007
people usually dont randomly talk sex, unless they’re internet creeps, but i know when it would be all we would have to offer each other. sorry for not being specific

you can’t have high quality sex without connection. you can’t have connection if your only conversing with the expectation of sex :(
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>>40965912
What do you like in a guy?
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good afternoon
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>>40966082
Don't like hearing the truth? There's a reason why real friendship between men and women doesn't exist. It's simple really. Men can be good friends to others, women cannot. If you're gonna make scams against men to try to get us to pay money for sex then I should be allowed to scam back for my attention. It's only fair. Men have original thought but women do not. That's why we are 100x better at everything that isn't extremely basic and definitively easy to do.
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>>40966094
Nope you can't have high quality connection without high quality sex. Those go hand in hand. They are both a must for a good relationship. You don't put one above the other. You do both.
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>>40966007
i’m a dude
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>>40966145
Your relationship quality is limited to the lowest quality of either one of these. If one is trash so will the other. This is why talking about sex and how to do it well is so important. Because it is good for both of you if can enjoy doing both and doing it this way is a must unless you want to have another failed relationship.
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>>40966166
Doesn't matter point still stands for all the people that don't know this.
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>>40966166
Also I highly doubt you're rly a dude based on what you said. I think you just lied about being a dude. Which is another BS thing women love to do on the internet. That is to pretend they're guys for a "connection". U rly think we can't fcking tell I've had fake guy internet several times already and it pisses me off each time. Don't you know your conversations are so empty I can tell u're either a woman or gay? I play along for awhile then just get rid of the "friendship" cuz it keeps pissing me off that you'd lie this. And again even if i'm wrong about you this still needs to be said.
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>>40966100
if i had a 100% ideal guy of my dreams (which of course i don’t expect) someone’s who smart and reflective, so we could have deep conversations. someone who would want to do stuff together, like idk go to the woods or explore the city or something, idk ;-; i like guys who are assertive and take control, maybe a little domineering, but still are conscious of me. im not very picky about bodies or looks, i like it when guys are strong though, but pretty much every guy is really strong in my eyes
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>>40966277
And every single guy could be that guy for you if you were good enough in bed to earn it.
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>>40966145
i don’t believe that. i’ve experienced a lot of high quality connection through friendships, with no basis of sex. i view sex as something fun and intimate, but also brings two people a lot closer. but i don’t think it’s required for connection, and i don’t want to be a slave to someone else’s sex drive, in the same way im not a slave to my own
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>>40966295
Assuming ofcourse you don't also wanna steal all his money and be a disrespectful piece of shit out of the bedroom which would also disqualify you.
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>>40966277
it sounds so nice to go on adventures with someone and talk to them the entire time, everytime I fantasize about having a gf or bf its always some kind of date where we are talking or spending time together just being completely content with it
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>>40966311
Well he doesn't want to be a slave for you attention/conversation needs. It's a give and take and you ain't giving. Also those guys you claim you had high quality friendships I guarantee every single one of them feels scammed by you and hates you for it.
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>>40966295
i don’t think that’s true, not every man wants those connections or has the intrapersonal intelligence to develop them. most people don’t like to think deeply and consume things on a surface level, which is fine if that’s what they like, but i like to introspect a lot, so i want a larger i can talk about abstract ideas with
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>>40966330
You absolutely exploited them for their attention and that naturally will drive them to eventually start hating women in general. You create the mysogyny you blame men for because you're selfish.
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>>40966330
i don’t want a boyfriend to feel like a space to my attention/conversation needs. i think if im truly compatible with someone we would feel excited to talk about stuff, and neither of us would view it as a chore. maybe thats idealistic, but it’s something im stubborn on, and i put a lot of effort into making sure other people are as comfortable and happy as i can reasonably make them
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>>40966330
they were other girls ^-^
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>>40966337
All guys introspect on a much deeper level than you. That's why they want sex aswell and that's also why guy's attention is more valuable than women's and why you want them to talk to you. But to get on that level you must also understand and have sex with them on the same level. The better the sex the better the depth of conversation they'd be willing to talk to you about because they will not feel like they're being exploited.
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>>40966368
Same argument in reverse. If you're truly compatible with someone you would be excited have sex with them and not feel like it's a chore. Just reverse every followup argument you have and convert conversation to sex and you'll get it. Then do both and your relationship will be good. You can't be so selfish and expect guys to want to take your conversation seriously.
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>>40966400
i agree with your first two sentences, thats why i said this about sex
>i view sex as something fun and intimate, but also brings two people a lot closer. but i don’t think it’s required for connection, and i don’t want to be a slave to someone else’s sex drive, in the same way im not a slave to my own
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>>40966378
To explain it in another way. You're attracted to the mind of the man while he's attracted to your body. You want to have deep conversations because you yourself are too shallow and need a man to help with this it will raise the level of conversations you can have. Same thing with sex. Guys don't need deep conversation because they always have it within themselves because our minds are way smarter than you give us credit for. They will not feel like sharing it with you if you don't give them what they do not have. And that is a higher level of pleasure than simply masturbating. If you can't be better than my own hand I don't want to have a deep conversation with you. If you annoy me with your shallow conversation too much and there's no decent sex to pay for that annoyance in pleasure worth the annoyance then the relationship is always doomed. Sex costs you absolutely nothing just like conversation but if we only talk then I'm the only one giving to the relationship.
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>>40966383
what are you basing this off of? why do you believe this?
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>>40966454
im attracted to men’s bodies, not just their minds. i dont think anyone has all the answers within themself, what makes humanity such a dominant force on earth is our ability to communicate and work together. we develop deeper understandings through communication. i also think different perspectives help us get a more accurate view of the world. no one has a completely objectively correct map of the world
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>>40966457
Because men have original thought and women do not. That's why we can evolve endless and that's why build the world both of us are living in. That's why we're way better at every possible skill you can think of. Alot of men are not aware of their gift of original thought until they use it enough to backtrack the reasoning behind why each gender is what it is. During the time I'm learning a skill even playing a sport I find those fun as a man because my original skill is stimulated by a fun activity that can also teach me part of the objective truth of the world. If you ever wondered about "why men do this" it's because "this" whatever it is backtracks to the instinct we have to understand the world better, to be be closer to the objective truth of the universe. Because the better grasp we have of the truth and the closer we are to it the higher the quality of our philosophy will be and by extention the better we will be at learning anything else after this and understanding anything we don't yet understand. We don't read books to gain understanding because we have an endlessly evolving ability in our heads that works better than any advice.
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>>40966511
I'm not excluding your sexual attraction to men's bodies. However men don't advance our understanding only by communication. We create understanding from nothing ourselves. We advance the most in solitude with no distractions. Only women are limited to absorbing understanding from an outside source and the source of understand is always men.
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>>40966572
And yes men don't have all the answers within themselves ... yet. Men's original thought isn't perfect because we need to think to use it and there's not alot of time for that. However given enough time men will figure everything out.
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holy shit this thread went downhill I thought it was nice to see people on here interested in having meaningful convos but it just spun out into weird misogynistic schizo rants why can’t we just be nice for one thread
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>>40966606
This isn't a rant and you definely did not read everything. Also my willingness to be exploited for my conversation ends here. I'd love to ask for sex in return but you girlies are probly too far from where I live for this to be practical. So bye I got better shit to do than talk to you for free.
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>>40966277
I'm a bit of an airhead so I don't fit the criteria sadly but I wish you the best of luck nonny
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>>40966606
yeah… it feels so weird having these rants on the lgbt board of all places
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>>40966681
you too, im sorry you feel that way about yourself ;-;
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>>40965912
>>40965921
you dont look like that THOUGH
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>>40966700
I just know I'm not always the sharpest tool
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>>40965912
Idk, where do women like you congregate online other than 4chan, I have the opposite problem
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>>40966687
oh well it was nice to see someone want a healthy relationship for a change, I hope to find one like that too
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>>40966705
no one does… they’re cartoon drawings
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>>40966705
Such is the point of the vtuber thing
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>>40966734
im not really a 4channer, sometimes i just come to post something anonymously into the void. i mostly just talk to friends and their friends, im not very outgoing, i get anxious. the most social thing i do is play minecraft on serves, and also voice train…
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>>40966776
thank you ;-; i hope we both find good relationships!
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>>40966073
this is why I cant date men. are they attractive from a distance? sure. but as soon as they get close all they care about is being a monkeybusiness rape ape and not being human. why tf cant you enjoy talking? how tf do you like me if you want to fuck silently then leave? you want sex sex sex be a fag or pay a hooker.
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>high sex drive (unpredictable subtype)
>weird and specific kinks
>do not want a "partner"
>anxious personality
>unwilling to form attachments
>keep everyone at arms length
>caught in a fugue state of both wanting attention and to be desired but also have the freedom to not owe someone my attention
Send help, I'm undateable AND prone to whorish tendencies
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>>40967742
Wish I had a whorish tendency gf
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>>40968261
I doubt it tbhon I suck a lot of dicks
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>>40965912
I'm lonely Cis guy if you wanna talk and see how it goes
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>>40968689
I want it
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>>40968748
How old are you anon?
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>>40969049
30
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>>40965912
you posted the hint yourself, become a vtuber and date your manager, if no manager then a mod, if no mod then viewer oshi tbqh
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>>40969130
I'm 31

Why do you want a promiscuous gf?
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>>40969174
All my exes have been promiscuous so now it's ingrained as my type.
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>>40969224
It's okay to like promiscuous girls, they need love too. Do you have a discord?
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>>40969431
tempnnn2792
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>>40969532
Sent you a request
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If a girl I loved fucked someone else I'd kms
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>>40969576
Gyarus and bimbos that have the look but don't have the fuck everything in sight tendencies are literally the best characters ever.
I wouldn't kms, I'd be super upset and drop them immediately though



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