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gender = gender roles
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>>40969858
that's a cyclical definition ∴ your point is invalid
/thread
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>>40970068
trans women are women
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>>40970072
okay
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>>40970079
when trans people talk about gender or gender identity, they mean conforming to an imagined list of ways to fit into a gender role
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>>40970088
>when trans people talk about gender or gender identity, they mean conforming to an imagined list of ways to fit into a gender role
the existence of gender nonconforming trans people invalidate this point
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>>40970100
they aren't that gender non conforming if they take hrt
trans people believe you shouldn't be both masculine and feminine
they frown upon bearded men wearing makeup and dresses, for instance
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>>40970107
>they aren't that gender non conforming if they take hrt
you haven't given any evidence for this so I'll just ignore it
>trans people believe you shouldn't be both masculine and feminine
some trans people are exorsexist/nbphobic yes, many aren't.
>they frown upon bearded men wearing makeup and dresses, for instance
again some do but many don't
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>>40970120
the goal of taking hrt is to align your behavior and your appearance
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>>40970138
the goal of hrt is to induce estrogenizing or androgenizing physical changes, it is not required for one to change behavior
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>>40970180
>for no reason that's not connected to society at all
lol
you people are
lol
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>>40970185
nta but all you're doing here is implying one of at least two possible beliefs which are each sort of losing touch with the thread topic in dubiously double-negatived or unpunctuated form, not providing any sort of argument
anyways who's "you people"?
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>>40970301
people who believe in gender ideology
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>>40970303
right. well nonny told you this a little while ago, but
/thread
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>>40970346
nonny is a really overused meme-word at this point
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>>40970505
nonny is a cute way to refer to a poster of unspecified gender :)
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>>40970088
Yet there are females and men who indetify as their birth sex without fitting into those roles and are treated as such. "Gender" makes no sense
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>>40970536
it's annoying, not cute

>>40970566
well, if we are being technical, I think gay people are intersex, and homophobia is a product of being bound by both male and female gender roles and you can never really adhere to both, so whichever you are less adept at, you will get bullied for.
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>>40969858
The people in this image are protesting trannies right
I'm so disconnected from where the normie discourse is at
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>>40970580
>it's annoying
:ppppppppp i like it that's me sticking out my tongue at you :ppppp
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>>40970611
that's not as conformist
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I hate gender roles.
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I like it when the gender rolls are soft and squishy
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>>40971514
gender brioche



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