yeah agp isnt that bad if you look good
as with a lot of things in life

>>40971692
hey why are you copying my posts?
>>40935886

>>40971692
I wish I was vlad so I could rape finnster

But I also wish I was finnster getting raped

>>40971692
AGP isn't really a feminine personality, but rather a masculine desire to be feminine.
Aside from sexual manifestations, as an AGP, it satisfies a fundamental part of my psyche to engage in hyperfeminine media or activities (although its usually the former, unfortunately I've cultivated a very masculine social image). For example, watching Magical Girl anime, I don't really like it on a cerebral level much at all, but is satisfies that AGP part of my psyche.

>>40972359
>For example, watching Magical Girl anime, I don't really like it on a cerebral level much at all, but is satisfies that AGP part of my psyche.
That explains the feeling I used to get watching that shit. "This is crap, but girls like it and that makes it satisfying"

You might say watching sailor moon is like getting topped by a FUB twice your age you met on grindr. Sure it may hurt and you can't wait for it to be over, but on the other hand, think about it for a second. God that's hot.

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>>40972316
AGP people think a like.
We all made our own AGP tulpa.
>>40972359
>masculine desire to be feminine.
Keep your tranny grooming in your containment thread.

>>40972359
if AGP is masculine rather than feminine, then why, on average, females score higher on the Blanchards core AGP scale than males, as proven by Bailey et al.?

>>40972376
i dont have an AGP tulpa, my core identity is feminine and i'm literally just an autosexual tranny

>>40972380
My position is derived from the fact that AGP males do not differ from cis male controls in MRI scans in any sex dimorphic way.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3180619/

>females score higher on the Blanchards core AGP scale than males
If you could link the study that proves that, I would be happy to take a look and incorporate it into my position if it turns out to be good. Bear in mind, I am an AGP, I want to believe there's something innately feminine about me, but I don't want to lie to myself.

>>40972392
there are no practical implications of brain scans. the shape of your brain doesnt really show anything about whats actually going on in your brain. kinda as if you assumed that every gaming pc must have a lot of games installed onto it, which oftentimes is true, but doesnt have to be. also, most brains are mosaic anyways. features like genitals are probably a better predictor of ones gender identity than "brain sex".

>link me the study
How autogynephilic are natal females? Bailey, Hsu et al. 2022

i like quoting this study bc its literally made by Bailey, therefore i assume it does not have any anti-blanchardist bias. Oddly enough, this study doesn't tell us much about AGP in trannies, but in crossdressers. And as Bailey obviously fails to acknowledge, a random natal female will be noticeably more AGP than a random natal male, and more than 50% of female participants have answered positively to at least one of the questions from the core AGP scale.

>>40972376
who is this?

>>40972452
Idn't the conclusion of this study that women aren't really AGP?

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>>40971692
The Vlad guy is so fucking gross. I thought he was alright guy doing this to showcase how creepy men can be in public and that he has a girlfriend, but he's a hard worker.

Now he's getting his dick sucked by another crossdressing male on camera for $$$

>>40972452
>How autogynephilic are natal females? Bailey, Hsu et al. 2022

quote that autogynephilic are natal females from the study

>>40972466
umm, maybe thats what Bailey has written, but not really.

Bailey has literally picked the most AGP males (they were crossdressers, not actual trannies) and compared them to random females. Obviously males specifically selected to be AGP will be more AGP. But if you compare random females to random males, you'll notice that AGP isn't really a thing males have, apart from some exceptional cases. But among females, its not a majority, but something more close to 20%.

Obviously Bailey isn't ready to make this concession.

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>>40972470
cope harder he's more man than f1n and better woman than f1n.
And have based name

>>40972470
I always found his omegle videos funny, his channel was (maybe it still is?) peak AGP absurdism.

>>40971692
>>40972470
yeah man how can someone be this ripped and also crossdress

>>40972592
Why not? What's the problem?

>>40972470
I'm kind of predisposed to dislike him because russians usually annoy me, but I just can't hate, he really manages to walk a fine line between not taking himself too seriously and being obnoxiously ironic and fake plus he's really good at makeup and I wish I could be that based and AGP instead of self hating and bitter

>>40972490
But nobody ever claimed AGP was common in males? It's just common in crossdressers and transitioners, which makes sense.

>>40971692
I'm not like Vlad or F1nn tho?
I'm like Icky. Except I don't pretend the world worst fashion sense is somehow fire even though it's clearly just thrift store chic with a 10,000% markup.

>>40972616
the fact that its more common in females than males makes it kind of stupid to call AGP a "male sexuality"

>>40972592
SKILLZ

>>40972616
Not every male is walking around claiming they used their female family underwear to masturbate either, but we all know this is true.

>>40972654
the thing is, if youre agp as a female, its obviously easier and there isnt any stigma (as i mentioned in my "agp is peak femininity" post), therefore female agp doesnt attract any attention the way male agp does, literally who cares if a girl like to fap in front of her mirror?

>>40972607
feel like it has to be one or the other

>>40972710
If he looks good crossdressing and looks good as a ripped guy, why not do both?

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>>40972613
Vlad portrayed himself as a straight, monogamous man who works hard and isn't a degenerate. That he has a girlfriend and does this kind of content to showcase the reality of sexual harassment.

But the promise of money was so good that despite his relationship and values and "straightness" he now gets his dick sucked by other males on camera for some bucks. He's really gross but my bad for believing otherwise.

>>40972670
>literally who cares if a girl like to fap in front of her mirror?
Hot.

>>40972670
Still waiting for you to quote the study conclusion that AGPs are natal females

>>40972613
why because they're chuds lol stupid troon

>>40972748
>AGPs are natal females
what

>>40972761
Because they're loud, vulgar, and racist

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>>40972738
NO THERE ARE COMPROMISES

>>40972789
He doesn't have to compromise at all, he legitimately looks good as both. It's like the opposite of bulky programmer hons who look good as neither.

>>40972825
Maybe the boundary between passoid and hon is exercise?

>>40972620
>I'm like Icky
you're like fat

>>40972881
Definitely. Being in shape works for both.

>>40972959
I haven't transitioned or anything, but the thought has crossed my mind on several occasions:
Even if you don't pass, if you're in good shape, there's almost no way you'll look bad.

>>40972972
Yep. I work out and look good as a guy or dressed as a girl. It's hot and fun.

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>exclusively meta-attracted AGP ("gayGP," not attracted to women at all)
>erroneously viewed as gay because I have gay male vaginal disgust and don't want one/SRS
>relentlessly bullied and ostracized in my teens
>no social foundation as an adult
>get mistaken for autistic quite a lot
>feel guilty dating men because I don't "really" like them sexually
>can't make friends with men without them trying to fuck me
>can't make friends with women because I don't want to invade female spaces
>have nothing in common with trannies at all, don't fit in the queer "community"
>don't get the liberation or berth to exist that lesbians do
I get treated like shit for being an AGP femboy and everyone hates me. I wish I were a woman, I wish I were a lesbian, I wish I had anything in common with trans women at all. Instead I'm doomed to remain platonically alone and stunted

>>40973032
groomed much

>>40973032
You could always befriend other AGPs.

>>40973054
No. I wish I was, I would have an excuse. I'm just organically a pretend person.

>>40973069
Other AGPs hate me for at least one of the following:
>I'm not a lesbian or even bi, not seen as "progressive" or "transgressive" or "safe" enough
>I'm a femboy, who they hate for cultural reasons (I get accused of being a nazi often based on this alone, although I'm not remotely right wing at all)
>I'm not autistic (therefore don't share any interests with them--AGPs are overwhelmingly autistic)
>I don't revel in my sexuality or being trans (as AGPs often do, uwu cute trans noises, egg_irl, or transbians)
>I like problematic fiction
I also don't get along with them because, as I said, we have nothing in common.

>>40972764
dumb nigga >>40972452

>>40973115
Flase flag operation

>>40973115
You have sexuality in common unless you are lying.

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is it hard to find a girlfriend that likes seeing me crossdressing? i do think there is a subsection of women who enjoy men in dresses.

>>40971692
>AGP isn't a curse, it's a virtue.
>You don't come off as rapey and all trans stereotypes won't apply to you.
>You are just being a cute fruity who is just very much in tune with his femininity

Thanks for sharing..yes, now I see it's beautiful. I feel so good when I feel pretty and feminine. I used to be afraid of this feeling, but now, I see it's so beautiful

>>40972739
Lmao it was never the promise of money. That's just a bonus.

I called from the first video I saw that hes a repper. No normal man does this even for the bit.

>>40973180
?

>>40973189
Not really. Almost all AGPs are lesbians or at least bisexual; I am not.

>>40973484
So you are autogynephilic without even a little bit of gynephilia?

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>>40973493
...Yes, that is what I have said from the outset...

>>40973501
That makes no sense, though. You need to be attracted to women to be attracted to being a woman.

>>40973523
You don't, actually. I'm exclusively attracted to "what men can do to me," which falls under meta-attraction. Not attracted to women at all.

>>40973549
You could be HSTS in denial.

>>40972376
>We all made our own AGP tulpa
I don't think "we made". We just put a name on what was already there. And we associate things with her. For example, I'm thinking on only speaking Italian when she manifest, so she speaks Italian. Let's see how it goes

>>40973556
I thought I was at one point until it was correctly pointed out to me that I wasn't.
I'm not attracted to men in the way that gay men or straight women are. I never see a man and think "he's hot," I'm not visually attracted to men at all. What's attractive about men is "what they can do to me"--pin me down, inflict their sadism on me, etc.
When I did consume pornography, it wasn't the sort of thing gay men like (masc4masc or men jerking off--at least not exclusively the latter) but masc on feminine male (otokonoko, femboys, shota). It wasn't the sort of thing straight women like, either, because I don't like vaginal sex. It's gross.
I'm not a "homosexual transsexual," furthermore, because I'm *not a transsexual.* I don't want a vagina or SRS, so I'm not a tranny (even an AGP tranny!), just an AGP male fetishist.
So I'm just AGP.

>>40973115
>progressive" or "transgressive" or "safe" enough
>I'm a femboy, who they hate for cultural reasons (I get accused of being a nazi often based on this alone, although I'm not remotely right wing at all)
You're not alone. I'm myself a libertarian and I oppose queer ideology. Everyone calls me Nazi here

>>40973589
AGP with no attraction to women sounds like gay man with no attraction to men. I have severe AGP and nothing you said is relatable to me.

>>40973611
You're sort of proving my point and it's immensely hurtful. I know I don't belong anywhere, that's why I'm posting here, this is a unique subclass of AGP feeling! I can't relate even to most other AGPs!
"Gay man with no attraction to men" describes my sexuality about as well, desu. But it's exclusively meta-attracted AGP.

>>40973501
what's this made up sexuality?
just say you're into emasculation fetush

>>40973668
It's not a "made up sexuality," how dare you. How would you like it if I told you "your sexuality is made up?"
>just say you're into emasculation fetush
That doesn't really encompass my attraction any more than saying a straight man "has a breasts fetish." You could argue that's part of his orientation but not the totality of it and it's misleading

>>40973665
I used to crossdress and had a boner every time, I masturbate to gender transformation content. I can look at hot woman and imagine being her and get off. I look at women's clothes and imagine wearing them, I constantly think about having a female body. I haven't been with anyone intimately ever, those fantasies alone are my entire sexuality.

I can imagine having sex with men as a woman, but it's not about them or what they can do, it's about me as a woman, enjoying being one, the men are basically faceless. This is AGP.

>>40973746
ok?

>>40973746
Women in isolation aren't appealing to me, I need a man involved. I'm just meta attracted AGP, moreso than you are. I also crossdressed and I don't care if the men have faces or not as long as they're doing "something" to me. I can self insert as a woman if it avoids the aforementioned hangups

>>40973665
Why is it hurtful? Be yourself and don't worry about it.
This is coming to you from another person who doesn't fit in anywhere at all.

>>40973818
My opinion is that if you need a man, it's something else. AGP is "being a woman" on its own, without a man necessary.

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butt poking really helps me get close to my female persona so much so if i don't do it regularly now i feel distant and frigid
weird that you have to rely on getting penetrated to feel normal

>>40973876
For me is feminine self care routine

>>40973876
You could try non-sexual expressions of femininity.
Romantic fulfillment is better than any orgasm.

>>40973865
Please review the concept of meta-attraction (Blanchard calls it psuedobisexuality I believe).

>>40973893
I acknowledge it and experience it. It's just not and never been a requirement. Being a woman alone, being a woman with another woman, being a woman with a man... they have all something in common that makes it hot.

>>40973818
i think thats gaygp, your meta attraction is your shield to protect yourself from feeling like having normal gay sex, if you need a man to feel like a woman to get off that sounds like a gay bottom who dresses up to get fucked by men right?

>>40973892
>>40973888
yeah but nothing compares to the potence of the warm tingly feel inside it's both romantic and sexual and doing non sexual fem stuff afterwards is soo blissful and natural like you feel like you really deserve it
normally it could even feel like a larp

>>40973930
So a transvestite

>>40973939
you're just into anal

>>40973961
basically yes, but a gay one, an AGP can also need a woman to feel like a failed man to get off, basically the straight MEF version isn't necessarily gay, the one that pisses off the trannies here because failed man = woman = hot is what it is

Is it agp if outside of sexual and romantic situations I feel like a different and more confident and powerful person when I engage with femininity? Like even just wearing women's clothes during my therapy sessions I notice I start to talk softer and sit with better posture. I feel my skin stop crawling and even when I just think about how I will feminize and embody womanhood in the future I'll sit up straighter and roll my shoulders back. Even just the idea of being a tall androgynous woman socially is exciting

>>40973930
I literally said it was GayGP on my first post in the thread. You're agreeing with me, except the part where I am actually not a gay bottom for the reasons articulated. I don't like men like gay people do

>>40973961
Yes, again, this is why I said I wasn't trans. Did you even read my posts or just gloss over half of them

>>40973969
i wasn't even into it for most of my life didn't think it was even possible for me to take something there 'like a girl' but once i started the feelings are kinda reminiscent of the dry innie orgasms i had as a kid but ofc not as strong and it really feels like it unlocks something it also puts you in a good energetic mood for a few days

i'm so happy to see this thread bumped
glad there are many other people like me and it makes me feel I'm not alone

>>40973493
>>40973501
straight trannies can be AGP. There were Blanchard original patients who reported being both into men and agp and blanchard said that it might be possible. in fact, they are proven to be more AGP than cis women. Autogynephilia without allogynephilia can exist, although it's rarer in both cis and trans women.

AGP is literally "attraction to oneself as female". If you experience this, in any form, you are AGP, no matter if you are cis or trans, androphilic or not, into sissy porn or not etc.

>>40973556
AGP/HSTS is a false dichotomy. Although there is a statistical correlation, being non-straight doesnt necesarily imply having autogynephilia, and being straight doesnt imply not having autogynephilia.

>>40973893
meta-attraction is reported by some, but there was a paper that compared attraction to male physique between agp and non-agp androphilic trannies, and bot are equally attracted to male physique. also, there isn't a clear line between attraction and meta attraction. every instance of attraction has both "true" aspects and "meta" aspects. if my cisf friend told me once that she wants to have a man taller that her in order to feel like a woman in the relationship, is she autogynephilic pseudoheterosexual?

>>40974169
/agpgen/ should probably return, there are like 3-4 AGP threads up right now

>>40971692
I am not homo but I would suck both of them

>>40974188
we had it before, but it was spammed non stop by a french schizzo and made everything about himself and how he wanted to die

>>40974180
>if my cisf friend told me once that she wants to have a man taller that her in order to feel like a woman in the relationship, is she autogynephilic pseudoheterosexual?
I recognize what you're saying and it's true. The analogy I like to give is cake and icing. If you have a cake with icing on it it's still a cake. If you have a "cake" made entirely out of icing, it's just icing, not really a cake. Meta-attraction is a COMPONENT of normal straight woman attraction, but if it's entirely meta attraction one isn't a straight woman. I'm just AGP.

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>>40972639
>getting off to the idea of being female
>more common in females than in males

tv's aren't agp
transvestic fetishism =/= autogynephillia

>>40974257
Some TVs are AGP, some are sexually autistic about the materials in female clothing, and some are just gay.

>>40974224
spot on. we can conclude that it doesnt really matter if you want icing or not, but it matters if you want cake. someone wanting a boyfriend to feel more feminine is not necesarily agp.

>>40974226
basically. if it makes you feel better about yourself, you can conclude that agp is fembrained.

do you guys just go to the ladys department and pick up clothes and then go pay?
have you done it?

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>>40974303
yes

>>40974224
I disagree, I think female sexuality is entirely meta attraction. The beauty industry is huge, why would women spend so much time and effort on makeup and trying to feel sexy if that didnt matter to them. Compare female beauty practices with male ones, men just want to work out to feel attractive to women and those who take it further than that are often stereotyped as gay. Whereas women take way more of an enthusiastic pleasure in doing makeup, clothing etc. Women do not look at mens bodies the way men look at womens bodies. For women its always about the contrast between their body and the mans body. It always involves themselves because the only real sexuality that exists is masculine, women have lower sex drives than men so sexuality will always involve the masculine force overriding the weaker feminine one so that when women engage in sexuality its always on the terms of the man which is seeing themselves as the object, not the man.

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>>40974320
>shadman

>>40974320
>that pic
I hate moids so much.

>>40974285
But I definitely am AGP based on what I described

>>40974320
and what where the looks they gave you?

>>40974330
>I think female sexuality is entirely meta attraction
There is no empirical evidence for this

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>>40974320
>shadman

>>40974330
Look into Chivers' research. Basically, women's arousal is very non-specific. Straight women are proven to get genitally aroused by being exposed to explicit content showing women only. Blanchard coins the term "erotic target" but it kind of doesnt work for women, they dont really have a single target. In female sexual fantasies, everything matters, not only the partner, but also the context, the emotional atmosphere, the pace, the sense of being desired and obviously their own role in the fantasy. To say that female sexuality is entirely meta-attraction is a stretch, but it definitely consists of meta-attraction to a large extent;.

>>40974419
>In female sexual fantasies, everything matters, not only the partner, but also the context, the emotional atmosphere, the pace, the sense of being desired and obviously their own role in the fantasy.
None of that has anything to do with being female. I'm a straight cis male and arousal is exactly like that for me too.

>>40974419
one day I hope to attain your level of cope

Important for AGPs to remember that its easy to fall into delusion based on theories that appeal to your AGP (Gender Identity Theory, Neurological Intersex), rather than theories that are true.

>>40974482
So what is true?

>>40974487
Blanchard's Typology, from what I can tell.

>>40974449
surely arousal is different form person to person and sex isnt the only factor determining arousal patterns. there is a lot of overlap between males and females.

>>40974455
if you need a cope for being agp, my cope is basically to accept that theres literally nothing wrong about it, its just one of the sexual quirks i have and no one has to know about it. imagine you have some weird kink like idk, piss kink. would there really be anything to cope with in that situation? just treat agp like some of these weird kinks some people have.

and actually read studies. you'll quickly realise that we can observe some general trends, but otherwise we don't really know that much about human psychology because humans are random as fuck. you being the way you are is just manifestation of that randomness.

also, i've noticed that a lot of coping trannies are overly fixated on being malebrained vs fembrained. there isn't really a male or female essence, because it doesnt matter. the only thing that matters is what you and others can see, which is how you look and how you behave, only this makes you into a man or a woman

>>40974492
It is also easy to overcorrect for your bias and lean into ropefuel theories. The only thing about Blanchard's typology that was actually proven is existence of some correlations between being non-straight and having autogynephilia. All of his other theories are merely controversial hypotheses, at least for now.

>>40974419
More and more it's obvious that AGP is just female sexuality. AGP fantasies are often elaborate in precisely this way, it's like a story being told and every element is important.

>>40974629
saying that AGP is just female sexuality is a stretch. The biggest difference between a typical AGP and a typical female fantasy is autosexuality. In an AGP fantasy, your main focus is on yourself. Autosexuality is generally speaking very underresearched, but we can surely tell that some women are autosexual and focused mostly on themselves in their fantasies, although not all. It would be more accurate to tell that AGP is a variant of female sexuality, but not exactly, personally I would say that it's an arousal pattern that anyone can develop for a variety of reasons, no matter if you are a man or a woman or cis or trans. But obviously, it will be the most common among trans women.

>>40974593
> no one has to know about it
are you a closeted repper? everyone knows i'm AGP cause I came out as transgender
> also, i've noticed that a lot of coping trannies are overly fixated on being malebrained vs fembrained. there isn't really a male or female essence, because it doesnt matter. the only thing that matters is what you and others can see, which is how you look and how you behave, only this makes you into a man or a woman
no matter how much judith butler copium I inhale it doesn't really change the fact that I'm an autistic guy who injects estrogen for a living. i'm a boomersissy in a midshit zoomer body.


>and actually read studies. you'll quickly realise that we can observe some general trends, but otherwise we don't really know that much about human psychology because humans are random as fuck. you being the way you are is just manifestation of that randomness.
> More and more it's obvious that AGP is just female sexuality. AGP fantasies are often elaborate in precisely this way, it's like a story being told and every element is important.
they should do a study and see if cis women are into tgcaptions. maybe I should tell some women that i've been jerking it to tgcaptions since I was 14 I'm sure they'll find that relatable.

>>40974753
Yeah, it's not female sexuality, there are only some similarities.

>>40971692
I would be so horny after getting tossed like that

I wish AGP erotica weren't so mean-spirited.
I love milda7 and the like, but there's too much focus on humiliation.

>>40974785
I skip everything that's about humiliation. It's a turn off.

>>40974796
Trapped! is still the best one I've read.
Its forcefem but its about the feminized characters confronting their female identity and becoming infatuated (peak AGP).

>>40974004
a transvestite is a gay person doing it for money, except you're doing it for free

>>40974829
Where can I find it?

>>40974753

>are you a closeted repper?
no, im a girlmoding tranny 2 years into hrt. sure, people might suspect i'm agp, but i don't give off any signs, i'm the type of person that avoids talking casually about sex. also, lets be real, blanchard is pretty niche, most people have never heard about AGP.

>i'm X, i'm Y, insert random /tttt/ slang
you are ascribing labels to yourself. in reality, it doesnt really matter how you call yourself, the only thing that matters is what kind of person are you in practice. also, contrary to some beliefs, there's nothing inherently masculine about autism. in fact, a lot of autistic boys tend to give off gay/feminine vibes, and i was precisely like that.

>tgcaptions
tgcaptions are specifically about transforming. women's agp obviously doesnt encompass this because it isn't about transforming into a woman, but already being one.

if you ask me, i find such captions awkward, because they are kind of supposed to tell me how i'm supposed to feel about certain things, but also because i can tell that they were made specifically for males wanting to become females and not for actual females. i think that a lot of women would feel similarly about these captions.

>>40974892
https://exhentai.org/g/1279856/c688a27017/
Its not really pornography though.

>>40974915
I am not into porn, so that's a plus. Thanks.

>>40974320
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>>40974393
They hated the Shadman because he told the truth.

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>>40974021
>Is it agp if outside of sexual and romantic situations I feel like a different and more confident and powerful person when I engage with femininity?
Kinda.
Since agp is masculine/feminine imbalance in your psyche, BTW this is my opinion and you can take it as schizo blogposting.
When I cater to my feminine side a little more like cooking, knitting, etc. My AGP urges generally calm down for a time, and after that I need to do something masculine to compensate.
AGP is less of being a man or a woman, and more being a man AND a woman, and balancing those two completely different psych in you.
It's not something new, and was mentioned several times in literature as old as 1800.
Which is way transitioning might actually make things worse since you're killing your male psych.
At least that's what I feel like.
When I dress up and masturbate, I don't feel good unless I statisfy the female psych with anal orgasm and male psych with dick orgasm.

>>40974099
>dry innie orgasms i
story time

>>40975044
Good post.
Women often say to their partners "You need to get in touch with your feminine side." I think this is bad advice for most men, but good advice for AGPs.
You have to appease both your masculine and feminine desires. I suspect that HRT without a social transition may be a good standard procedure.

>>40975044
i work out so i'm going to look like her less the female skull lol

>>40974180
>and being straight doesnt imply not having autogynephilia
Of course, but then why people (including researchers) believe otherwise?

>>40975150
>researchers
if you mean Blanchard, he himself admitted that this might be the case. If you mean mainstream researchers, they are generally kind of sceptical about the entire AGP thing.
>people
basically because stereotypes and false dichotomy.

>>40974188
It should, but snowflakes hate it when people don't agree with this.
For them AGP is trans in denial.
>>40973961
Which is the old name, then it was sissy > crossdresser > femboy
Technically these are all manifestation of AGP

>>40974257
What's the difference?
One is physical the other is psychological?

>>40974303
Yeah.
Wearing a wedding ring help avoid needless questions.

>>40975208
TV is about being a man in woman's clothes. AGP is about being a woman in woman's clothes and everything else.

>>40974330
How do you explain HAES?

>>40974593
>my cope is basically to accept that theres literally nothing wrong about it
Valid.
What do you say for being forced into you're a trans in denial?

>>40975218
Thank, anon!

will try and report back

>>40974770
f1n is cold fish in bed.

>>40975250
>being forced into you're a trans in denial
different people might have different advice based on their own knowledge and experiences. whether you listen to them it a completely different manner. there's no trans brains or trans essence, there's only people who decide to transition for whatever reason. You shouldn't think in terms of you being trans in denial or not, you should think in terms of whether transition would be a net positive or a net negative for you.

>>40975091
>I suspect that HRT without a social transition may be a good standard procedure.
I don't know, if HRT kills your libido, what would happen to your male psych?
I was on SSRI for a time, and made things worse for me.
It was after years I realized I'm better off with CBT than something like SSRI.

>>40975264
I used to like him when he was starting crossdressing
now he gives me the ick because we all know he's mentally unwell and because he is greedy as fuck and scams people and only thinks about money

>>40974896
>no, im a girlmoding tranny 2 years into hrt. sure, people might suspect i'm agp, but i don't give off any signs, i'm the type of person that avoids talking casually about sex. also, lets be real, blanchard is pretty niche, most people have never heard about AGP.
most zoomers and conservatives are aware of the sexual components of transition, they literally brought up AGP on Joe Rogan. i concede to you that most normies are unfamiliar with AGP Schizophrenia, in their minds they just think of you as a "trans fetishist" rather than a "Class 3 Physical Autogyenphila Type 6" or whatever. It doesn't change the fact if you live as an autistic male your whole life and just come out as trans for no reason people do have an idea of what's really going
>>40975289
>there's no trans brains or trans essence
I don't think that's actually true given the physical dysphoria some people report experiencing I don't think AGP/HSTS can explain SRS

>>40974915
I prefer Aian and papermania

>>40975425
>I don't think AGP/HSTS can explain SRS
If it can explain taking female hormones, wearing women's clothes, getting surgeries to look like a woman, changing identity and appearance, then surely SRS can be explained, too.

>>40972359
do... do people not watch card captor sakura and really like it? i find a lot of meaning in its portrayal of lesbian relationships and victim fantasies...

>>40975447
>only thinks about money
He's a woman now

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>>40975465
You need to masturbate

>>40972316
TRANSBIANISM IS EVIL. DATE MEN

>>40975465
let me have my Saporsky cope

>>40975500
I do masturbate daily. It doesn't work as well as it did in the past.

>>40975525
Fuck coping, let's be real.

>>40975569
no matter what you do you are coping in some shape or form

even if you stone cold reppermax the stuff you have to do to sustain that (drug addiction, workaholic, join the military) is still coping

>>40975594
It doesn't really take that much. I am a very lazy person and prefer the stability. Posting here sometimes and daily fapping works for me.

>>40975608
john 50

>>40975453
>in their minds they just think of you as a "trans fetishist"
i generally tend to avoid transphobes in my life, and these are the most likely to believe that "trans is just a fetish". surely, some people from the past who know that im transing may have some assuptions about why i do that, but do these unconfirmed assumptions really matter that much? for every negative assumtion, there could be a positive assumption like "maybe they have finally figured themselves out". you won't get anywhere in your life if you dwell too much on what other people think.
>I don't think that's actually true given the physical dysphoria
dysphoria is a feeling, it doesnt have to be a manifestation of some trans essence. if you dont like bananas, would you say that you necessarily must possess an anti-banana essence?

>>40975619
If I had a dollar every time I get this response. I have been coming here for like eight years. Nothing has changed.

>>40975640
>dysphoria is a feeling, it doesnt have to be a manifestation of some trans essence. if you dont like bananas, would you say that you necessarily must possess an anti-banana essence?
i'm a materialist, so, yes?

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What about AGP and selfbondage?
Those seem to go hand in hand
>>40975457
>papermania
BASED

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>>40976094
>What about AGP and selfbondage?
Isn't it the other way around?
I mean most people into selfbondage are AGP.

>>40976094
>in exchange for Jam Bread
What?

>>40975503
i have a preference for men retard

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>>40976138
>jamu pan

>>40976234
AGP motherfuckers will troon out for a piece of jam bread.
Also, why is everyone's penis orange?

>>40975641
baby AGP here
what does this mean?

>>40971692
i hate that crosd dressing faggot vlad, and o hate that twink finnster, that bitch is already loaded and comes from a rich family she does NOT need to flood the OF market with her flat ass no tit microdick ass, taking money from the trannies that really need it

>>40976723
https://avitale.com/essays-details/?name=the-gender-variant-phenomenon--a-developmental-review-5

Read the entire thing. But if you are lazy just ctrl+f john 50

>>40976869
> 50 years old
> The only other form of temporary relief came through masturbating, often up to five times a day.

fuck, he was horny. I can only get it up like once a week

>>40972490
Whoa I had no idea Newposter was this redpilled

>>40977132
>newposter
i've been lurking on this website in and out for like 3 years. and i've been a namefag since june.

>>40977257
> 3 years
you're, by 4chan standards, a newfag
I've been here since 2010

>papermania in the agp thread
wow we really are kindred spirits. i don't really like when his stuff becomes ridiculously cruel and disgusting though