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What about them makes them endure?
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>>40972209
They weren't created with an agenda, they were just created to be sick as hell.
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>>40972209
poison isnt canonically trans and even then wouldnt be good trans representation except to gooners
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>>40972209
Buffalo Bill.
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>>40972224
Birdo and Poison were created as fucking trannies. They just changed it later. It’s what they were meant to be so they stay as trannies simple
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>>40972209
I doubt anyone could give me trans representation in media that's more mainstream and positive than this. Like it or not, Jules is THE cultural icon of trannies, at least for now.
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>>40972224
doesn't help that for every example you'll give you'll get half the trannies screeching it's wrong or not good enough.
Poison is fine, she's cool and popularly accepted as trans. I'd argue she's done more good for the representation of trans people than any living tranny.
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>>40972234
Source?
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>>40972227
Oh, stop
They state in the movie's dialogue that he's specifically NOT a tranny
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>>40972224
the word newhalf is written in katakana at the bottom of her original character design sheet
it is also written in the snes manual for the jp version in the box for her gender
newhalf is japanese slang for tranny
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>>40972242
>>40972243
>more good for the representation of trans people than any living tranny
Exhibit A.
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>>40972247
they were operating on pre-blanchardian typology, from back ehen the only tranners who would receive medical care were those who grew up sufficiently girly and wanted to fuck men
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>>40972234
does the general audience aware of them consider them to be trannies? no? then it's poor representation lol
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>>40972255
isnt it well known even among today's nintenkids that Birdo would rather be called Birdetta?
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>>40972255
How the hell would they know to identify a tranny if they don't know they exist?
That'd be like showing the color orange to a medieval peasant and then calling it bad representation of oranges because he called it red.
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>>40972275
yes, so in that case representation has to include explanation as part of it. It WOULD be bad representation of the color orange if you didn't elaborate on it, also colors are subjective as colorblindness exists so your example is pretty trash.
Anyway, if a creator includes a trans character in their media, but them being trans isn't elaborated on, it's bad representation for trans people. Part of the point of representation is education.
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>>40972251
Trannies (MtFs) are a platonic ideal born of male psychology/sexuality that has been corrupted by social media, capitalism, and the modern sex work industry.

People like Hunter are the antibodies fighting the disease.
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>>40972209
Ironman!
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>>40972300
>so in that case representation has to include explanation
wrong
>colors are subjective as colorblindness exists
Oh, so you're just retarded. You should lead with that.
>it's bad representation for trans people
yes and 1984 is bad representation of fascism because George Orwell didn't have a segment at the end where he sat you down and said: "actually when you let the government take away all your rights this is bad and that's why Winston's life goes so badly because fascism holds a really really tight grip on his life!"
>part of representation is education
it doesn't have to be, if you weren't retarded as you had made so clear one sentence ago you might understand the power of subtlety. Do you have the slightest clue of LGBT's history with children's books? Of course you don't, that would imply someone successfully taught you to read.
Poison is an excellent start, she introduces people to the idea of transgenderism without being heavy handed or insistent as she is a character beyond simply her sexuality, she sets a precedent for more to appear in future, having Bridget say she prefers to be called a girl is a harder sell without characters like poison or birdo coming first. And perhaps most significantly, she's grown more complex from her villainous origin to a far more morally ambiguous role. It's progress. Natural progress. A concept beyond the capacity of your three good neurons, but hopefully not beyond your handler's grasp or whoever else bothers to scroll these pallid threads.
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>>40972315
Simply having the identity doesn't make them a competent spokesperson by default.
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>>40972382
You were so concerned with writing a funny post you forgot to make a point. Please explain to me how different people experiencing aspects of life differently isn't subjectivity.
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>>40972390
You don't need to be a "spokesperson". Just exist and do good/cool things in the world.

Laverne Cox was a "spokesperson" until that thing with the MAGA cop blew up in her face.
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>>40972209
For me, it's Wuk Lamat
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>>40972402
because you need to shift your definition of objectivity to non existence to support your view of subjectivity, namely, I reiterate, you are retarded.
Hence why you see no point made in a post that elucidates in length my point and yet you skipped past all the big words as I knew you would and got to arguing one specific aspect which you can't even grasp correctly. The post is for your handler, show it to them idiot. You'll hurt yourself trying.
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>>40972242
>only notable filmography section is being in a tv show that glamorizes drug abuse, pedophilia and youth criminality
This is what you like being associated with?
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>>40972428
Well, the point was that while I was concerned with representation to a wide audience (hopefully the widest possible audience) of people, your post was mainly concerned with what (in your opinion, mind you) is good character writing. Please try to focus on that and not trying to be the most clever person in the room.
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>>40972463
you only get that impression because you're too inept to parse anything being said to you. You don't get humanity across with bad character writing. Again, subtlety is beyond you since you think having a sit down about transgender rights in the middle of a side scrolling beat-em-up is how you get normies to give a fuck. Heavy handed stupidity like that is what landed you in the shit you're dealing with in 2025 instead of a steady march to equality. The more aggressive you are, the more sane you make the other side look. Pragmatism is not a skill you've developed which is why you can even present ideas like these unironically and shamelessly.
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>>40972445
Euphoria is a widely beloved show, and Jules is a sympathetic character.
I would imagine that to a lot of people across the world this was possibly the first time they had seen trans issues discussed through a visual medium, as opposed to maybe knowing of trans people as an abstract concept.
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>>40972484
>stupidity like that is what landed you in the shit you're dealing with in 2025
I'm not trans nor am I american. Good talk though.
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>>40972498
>I'm not trans nor am I american
yet that does not absolve you from having a coherent argument
>Good talk though
Its value rests solely as an example of why avoiding asphyxiation by plastic bag isn't reason enough to have your opinion respected.
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Lily from ZLS is honestly the best trans representation in anime
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>>40972234
Seconding Birdo
>>40972300
We need to plaster "tranny" on the character's forehead so cis people who can't read context clues know they are 100% trans no debate
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>>40972534
Also the only trans character to appear in UK Parliament
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>>40972220
And that's a truthnuke
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>>40972234
>>40972248
She's only a tranny in her north America releases because Capcom was worried that beating up a women (in final fight) would anger 'mutts, so they made her a shemale. The idea was scrapped for the original game tho and she was replaced with a literal who dude character. Also the original designer personally views her as cis woman but is fine with fan interpretations.

Anyways poison and Marina funger (hsts) are the best representation and bridget is a groomer victim kek (Mai is also incredibly agp).
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>>40972756
Bridget is not a victim of grooming and anyone saying that has never played a guilty gear game
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>>40972605
the one good thing to come out of the kid starver scottish landslide
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>>40972224
retard



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