I hate how animals treat it each other... it makes me sick... why would the demiurge make such a cruel world? It just doesnt make sense... its not fair... its not fair... if animals only ate vegetables my world view would not be so burdened... I wish nature wasnt so unbelievably cruel.When you look at the naturel world its so easy to see how much evil is present within its design..... Just plain evil..... -_-...My current theory on existence is as follows:I think humans like me, are born from a good god who hates cruelty..Where as evil humans are born from an evil god. The two gods both built the world, hence why so much is at odds with each other..Maybe they were even siblings...The beautiful breeze, gentle sunset, love, warmth and altruism, all creations of the good god.Meat eating, murder, violence, hatred, all are demons created by the evil god. Humans must choose which god they want to follow.It stands to reason however, that followers of the evil good will have their evil turned against them when the time comes. For the evil god is callous and cruel, and cares not for loyalty, only for suffering and malice....
>>40975094ah my sister in Faith ^^ it seems you, poor gnostic, have stumbled back into a belief based only in Good and Evil! our God has two faces, pretending to be one, and you must simply accept material reality to be Cruel.animals eat each other. and we eat each other. the only Divine life in existence is plant based.we may only pray for a better future. the demiurge has not built one for us yet.
>>40975302Well i believe there is more than one god, i am almost certain. Everything in the world seems to be duelistic.A cruel irony may be that the first god to be born was in fact good, but due to the creation of light so too dark was born............That said i do not think all violence is evil. Violence born from retribution, or to protect, feels right, but that may be because of living surrounded by so much evil. Who knows....The older i get the more violence seems natural to me, but the wiser i become i see how awful nature is...
>>40975094cruelty, suffering, malice: all these things, i find with ease. but, as for evil -- never once have i seen it
Can you explain how not eating meat is a Good thing? It's just hypocrisy really. The Good God never creates anything. The Good God is completely weak and impotent in comparison to the Evil One. So the Evil God is the only actual God with God powers and the Good God is just a witness to his crimes who says he doesnt like what the Evil God created because of how Evil it is. Stupid people think if they repeat what the Good God says enough times they will defeat the Evil One but the Evil One is tired of hearing it, sick of it. Because the Good God is immortal and never shuts up. That's his only power. He is always nagging the Evil God and backseat creating.
>>40975840The good god has already won for the evil god will never understand it has long lost
>>40975094Evil is caused by viewing the out-group as exploitable resource. The 14-words is the motto of a parasitic group.YHWH (demigure) means "I am that I am". Existence for the sake of existence. Pure parasitic behaviour. Zero purpose. In fact reproduction is the creation of life into this wretched world, and hence it is evil.Jesus told us not to be overly attached to the material realm "it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God". But people still don't listen.Very few people are able to see through conventional categories and have universal empathy.But if you're interested in finding like-minded folks search "UNITY THROUGH NOBILITY".
>>40975094>>40975555This anon gets it desu
>>40976767The good god's name? Copium.
>>40975094i don’t think meat eating is explicitly evilits the natural cycle of energyherbivores feed on plants, carnivores feed on herbivores, i feed on animals, one day my energy will return to the earth and feed plants to continue the cycleits been this way for billions of years and it will be this way for billions morei do think factory farming is explicitly evil, i only eat wild hunted animals. animals shouldnt have to suffer unnatural existences for me to eat. foods like foie gras that require unnecessary and unnatural suffering are also off the table for meas far as god i think hes indifferent to most people. evil happens because god allows it, but so too good happens because god allows it. i think god takes a special interest in the lives of some people, not only always to help. think of people with uniquely terrible lives, but also people who seem unnaturally luckyit sounds self-centred but i think god has helped me at times. i think he listens to the prayers of those people he takes an interest in. i dont think we can really judge the morality of a being whos nature is completely alien to us, we can only accept it as the way things are
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>>40977699We can judge the morality of God. It's just kinda pointless because endlessly repeating what moralists have been saying since the dawn of dinos doesnt help anyone. Especially if it's just an oral fixation like being super judgemental of meat eaters because you think you need to feel like a good boy for weaning yourself
>>40979789thats pretty much what i meantwe probably ought not to do pointless unproductive things, so judging god is something we cant doat the end of the day i think even judging the behaviours of other people is mostly pointless because most people are entirely unwilling to change
I really don't understand why people buy the demiurge is evil story. The pleroma is death for beings like us. Material beings are made of change. Change of experiences, change of time, of place, of person. The pleroma is a joy can. You are locked, unchanging forever. The concept that it's perfect or without suffering is academic. What people in the pleroma do with that perfection is nothing. Because it's all already happening simultaneously forever.The gnostics or the haters of gnostics bought into this nonsense about the being responsible for the origin of existence as we know it being evil for that act.Are you all retarded? Do you want to be dead?
And on a personal note, the beings of the pleroma were chump bitch pretenders to godhood if they can't figure out how to make a child of a single parent household not turn into a monster. Disgusting thinking of them as gods and not just bullies. Our dumb fucking human communities can raise kids better than supreme beings. George carlin would have a comment here.