I'm in genuine despair over the fact that I'm likely not trans. My dysphoria is likely fake. I lack childhood signs. Imagining myself as a woman doesn't make me as happy as I'd like it to.This probably is a maladaptive cope I adopted, because living as a man is genuine ropefuel, and I thought I could escape my immutable self
>>40978998You're clever enough to understand that wearing a dress, chopping your balls off and calling yourself Lilith or Alice won't make you a woman. Godspeed
>>40979026It's not the realization that iwnbaw which causes me despair, but the realization that I always was and will be a man. I genuinely don't know how to cope with this and the fact that I never should transition
>>40979202iwnbaw = i will always be a mansame shit brah. big pharma might have something for you in a couple years, dont rope or destroy yourself with hormones
>>40979238>dont ropeI'm not actively suicidal because I'm a man, so that's another proof I'm not actually trans.I do wish I wouldn't ever wake up again every night though, but that's unrelated and how it's always been
>>40979202yeah thats a good way to put itits like i know theres nothing in me outside of a fetish that really wants to be a woman, i just dont want to be myself, id do anything to not be me. and transitioning changes your appearance dramatically, so i hope that it will make me look less alien to myself, but then all i see is the same thing and i know that i was stupid to think i could escape it
>>40978998there's no such thing as fake dysphoria. it's real if you feel it. the trans people who talk about fake dysphoria and accuse other trans people of being "faketrans" are just insecure pickmes. this is me being deadass, the word of the lordt. harken or dissipate
>>40979349heres what real dysphoria is:>feels bad because what you see isnt a woman>hates their body because it doenst have feminine traitswhat fake dysphoria is like:>feels bad because the mirror looks like an alien/stranger/monster>hates their body because it feels ugly/deformed/alien/strangeactual dysphoria is focused on gender, for me the gender part is secondary to the just not feeling human in general
>>40979395nona... that's not "fake dysphoria"... that's dysmorphia. you can be dysphoric and dysmorphic at the same time
>>40979349>there's no such thing as fake dysphoria. it's real if you feel it.I'm saying it's fake because I'm probably not even dysphoric to begin with. I can look at my body and face in the mirror just fine, but another part of me incessantly reminds me that I look like a man and have little to no passing potential.The fact that there is no acute distress from the fact that I'm a man is most likely enough proof that I lack dysphoria. It is very distressing to be reminded that I probably like being a man deep down though
>>40979433>It is very distressing to be reminded that I probably like being a man deep down thougheven the idea of wanting to be a man makes you dysphoric. just because because your dysphoria doesn't apply equally to all areas of your body, doesn't mean you don't have it
>>40979461I feel like I should want to be a man, and that I'd be really good at being one. At the same time I'm just repulsed by the idea of actually living my life like that.I don't see how trooning could help here though, since I have no guarantee I won't develop any reverse dysphoria
>>40979313That still counts as being suicidal.
>>40979589Yeah, yeah, I know, but it's me being passively suicidal for no reason. Not actively suicidal because I'm a man. That was the distinction I tried to establish, although having done so poorly
>>40979238This is terrible advice, if you can even call it that. Medical science does not have a cure for dysphoria in the works and never will
Yeah i think im trooning because i failed to attract women since i feel ugly/boring
i mean you can always be a hrt femboyor a he/him tranny idk
>>40979782>just be a man with boobs browhat kind of advice is this. the idea is to stop feeling like a freak
>>40978998Please just try HRT. Some brains are better on different hormones rather than others. If you don't like it, you can stop. Wondering if your "soul is transgender" is not going to help, because there really is no such thing. Take care. If you really don't feel like you can continue living like this, you should absolutely try HRT even if it's just "for the hell of it".
>>40978998I don't know why you think that's bad, my entire life has been hell, specially during childhood when I felt so vulnerable in my own house, being unable to make any kind of decision and just letting dread consume me wasn't nice at all.Considering yourself lucky.
>>40981580>considering*considerStupid brain
>>40978998i used to be like you OP. it helped to accept that im not actually gender dysphoric and i just take estrogen for cosmetic purposes, that i might have some similar symptoms to gender dysphoria but im definitely not a woman in a mans body. that and to kill my sex drive.
>>40981816>that and to kill my sex drive.this too, every time i goon i want to fuckin die
>>40981553I have tried hrt, and I didn't feel any different on it unfortunately.
>>40981580>I don't know why you think that's badI don't think it should be bad, but that doesn't change the way I feel about it. Didn't mean to understate the pain of actually dysphoric trans people at all.