>even cis queer women will literally talk over me and deny me autonomy the way men doWhy is being a straight trans woman permanently being at the bottom of the totem pole? Even transbians are treated better. I can't help being this way any more than they can
>>40984219>transbians are treated betterdelusional honcope
>>40984219IDK but hearing someone who I thought was my friend start shitting on straight trans ppl cut deep, they just assumed I wasn't.>>40984222Nah also a straggot troony, it's true.
>>40984222Being attracted to women as a woman is seen as "transgressive" and not "supporting the patriarchy." It's a moral "good," whereas being attracted to men is seen as upholding those same systems by trans lesbians or even some bi trans women. Cis people have historically seen me as "gross" and "lesser than" for being a gay guy, men don't see me as a man either. It's the worst of both worlds.
>>40984232Transbians are straight men. Men in dresses being attracted to women is seen as predatory. You are seen as safe because you are just a bottom faggot.
>>40984230literally nobody likes transbians
>>40984256online yes, in person queer groups def no
>>40984260So you are sad because the transbian cringehon polycule doesnt accept you?
>>40984264No more so saying transbians in mixed queer group settings don't get treated with disdain like straightoids do.
>>40984268Transbians are literally the reason terfs and gays against groomers exist lol you are delusional
>>40984297Go outside that's literally my experience I dont care about your retarded online shit
>>40984307I go outside everyday and nobody likes transbian hons here in the south. aybe you should move out of minnesota or whatever blue state hon den you are living in
>>40984242Women can tell I don't desire them, but society collectively just views me as a bottom faggot, which isn't someone worthy of respect or fighting the patriarchy but in bed with it. Thus...not even other "queer" people like me. Even gay men attack me. >>40984260In person trans-related groups are all transbians. When they mentioned "my gf" or "my wife" or "my mom wants me to get a bf...but I probably don't even like boys" it was all smiles and nods. When I said "my boyfriend" I was treated coldly.
>>40984333>fighting the patriarchytouch grass lol
>>40984297You know these two beliefs aren't mutually exclusive, right? TERFs can fear transbians and also "queer people" can consider transbians to be more amenable than straight trans women. Men will think being a transbian is "more understandable" than being a faggot gay guy who does poopsex.Pretty much no parent of a trans girl is going to go "fuck.........if only she were straight...." Even the biggest transphobe will be relieved "well at least she still likes tits and pussy."
>>40984337I did. When I went outside to in-person queer groups, I just said how it went. The premise of the OP is another such example. Touching grass reveals trans women who like cis men are treated like shit, maybe not with megaphones or as a "threat," as transbians are, granted! But casually very much so.
>>40984340Yeah keep bringing up "queer people" that nobody likes either. As a straight trans woman you can be more assimilated than them and have higher social status with normal cis friends. Stop going to queer meetups.
>>40984321>red state blue stateamerimutt opinion discarded, literally the reason straight trans people don't hang around kweer spaces is because of the hostility towards them
>>40984346Since when do straight trans women even show up at queer meetups? You should be among your own kind with other straights, not with the blue-haired freaks.>>40984356The hostility is envy because straight trans women assimilate better. You are not actually below queers on the totem pole unless you buy into the woke hierarchy of oppressions you know
>>40984351You realize "queer" is an umbrella term that encompasses anyone not cishet, right? You can get that I'm insinuating, in this case, "someone who is born female and not heterosexual.">As a straight trans woman you can be more assimilated than them and have higher social status with normal cis friends.I don't have any friends because I was bullied and ostracized during my teens because people thought I was gay. As an adult I don't know how. Yeah I have a higher social status (alone and mistaken for an autist directly because of my sexuality). >>40984362See above. I don't have any friends. My therapist was urging me to go to one because I said I had no dealings with the "community."But also, the premise in the OP wasn't even a queer meetup, it was just day-to-day life...
>>40984367You dont have to identify with the queer label if you dont like it. Many of the more normal gays and lesbians dont and you wont find then at the queer anarchist bench building for homeless people workshop
>>40984333>When I said "my boyfriend" I was treated coldly.YOU MEAN PARTNER, fucking kill me
>>40984375I don't identify it, I'm merely using it for convenience's sake. If I used more words for precision in the OP, I'd get called an "autist" and "this is why no one likes you," if I got any replies at all. More than likely the thread would die for being too verbose.
>>40984380How was what I did egregious relative to what they were doing? I dislike the term "partner" because it doesn't actually protect anyone (it's obvious whether the "partner" is male or female or enby because it's usually followed up by a pronoun) anymore. It implies friendship rather than a romantic relationship. It's a cold, sterile term...where's the beauty...
>>40984381 Just dont associate with obnoxious queer people irl and get a normal hobby instead. If you reasonably pass you will make friends in no time.
>>40984386Nah you did nothing wrong I got shamed into saying my partner instead of my bf
>>40984219>>40984219>>40984219They are upset because straight trans are the only real trans women. Being lesbian and trans is an almost statistical outlier for only a very very very select few. They are jealous of you because you aren't agp. Laugh at them and move on darling
>>40984393How am I supposed to not associate with coworkers who treat me as lesser (the premise of the OP)?Find another job? Believe me I'm looking and it's not going well.>>40984394Oh okay. Sorry.>>40984396I'm not even a real trans woman, I'm a transvestite, I don't want SRS. I again only adopt the term out of brevity. And AGPs can be real trans women too. I'm just not.
>>40984408>I'm not even a real trans woman, I'm a transvestite, I don't want SRScommon HSTS type
>>40984415No it's not, if you're fine with your birth sex you're a guy, not a transsexual. I don't like my penis but I don't like vaginas and don't want SRS. I'm not a "transsexual," I'm a transvestite.
>>40984408please detransition and stop ruining it for the rest of us
>>40984408>I'm not even a real trans woman, I'm a transvestite, I don't want SRS. I again only adopt the term out of brevity. And AGPs can be real trans women too. I'm just not.Sounds like you are a real tranny coping nigga. Real troonies don't always need to want srs. Agp is not real trans. They are fetishists who like to be with other fetishists. Unfortunately they are most of this board. Again, statisticly its almost impossible to be trans AND lesbian. See my pic. Yet most """trans""" just happen to be that?
>>40984457>Real troonies don't always need to want srs.They kinda do...dysphoria is what makes you trans or not.>Agp is not real trans. They are fetishists who like to be with other fetishists. Unfortunately they are most of this board. Not even Blanchard agrees with you sis. And you forgot your pic. I'm sure it's going to be a cherrypick.Most cis women are pansexual, so it's not surprising most trans women are pan/bi. Only about 20% are lesbian, and 20% are straight.
>>40984426agp is more likely to have srs, hsts less so. your a transexual.
>>40984469Source?
>>40984222back in the day only straight trans people were allowed by doctors to transition
>>40984488And that was a mistake, hence why it was moved away from
Nobody wants to listen to yet another fagcent monologue about how taking it in the ass makes you a real woman
>>40984504I don't have a fagcent
>>40984516agey pee
>>40984521You do realize the "fagcent" is performative and done only under "safe" conditions, which I was consistently denied right
>>40984530No I actually thought it was an involuntary speech impediment linked to the gay gene
>>40984593That's...not how it works please educate yourself and stop believing in the gay equivalent of honscience
>>40984596no it's more fun to believe gay men are just born that way
>>40984604You're really retarded, you can be "born that way" without genetics, in fact the field suggests it has to do with prenatal androgen exposure but not genetics (i.e., it's still inborn but not in the way you think).
