I wonder what the impact of this will be.Do you think there'll be a right wing shift of being anti-gun? What about more grifters being killed.Much to consider.
>>40997239Good riddence!
Bro was killed in a religious red state on a school campus who just made it legal to carry guns on campus. Kind of hard to spin it
Who the fuck cares? some nazi prick got killed boo hoo.
>>40997239>Do you think there'll be a right wing shift of being anti-gun?For Commies and trannies.Violent filth.
>>40997239Buy gun stocks
I called it weeks ago the next thing coming is conservative anti gun legislation
rest in peace. your detractors had and still have no arguments against you. be very way of people who celebrate such things.
>>40997252they will spin a trans shooter story like always
shooter is still at largeplease dont be a tranny please dont be a tranny please dont be a tranny please dont be a tranny please dont be a tranny please dont be a tranny
>>40997239For the love of GOD, please don't be a trans shooter.
>>40997279They need to ban guns for anyone with a history of mental illness
>>40997301no he isnt?
There will be more and more political assassinations and hopefully the right people get clipped to bring down the state. A good thing about the left being shit and disorganized is who are they gonna kill? Nancy Pelosi? Hasan? No one cares. But trump....
>>40997295>>40997301It's gonna be a tranny.You're going to get ostracised, and I'm going to laugh :)
>>40997330>ostracisednot by anyone that matters
>>40997326Yes they are.Did you believe that the old man was the shooter?
>>40997279which is going to be fucking ironic, since their entire shtick is "freedom"
>>40997239>I wonder what the impact of this will be.the same always, literally nothing. the left will demand all guns be banned (except theirs), and the right will say if he had access to a laser guided rocket launcher, he'd still be alive.
anudda tranny shooter mossad minion i'm sure
>>40997343See the following>>40997319
>>40997327Only puppets got killed so far, you kill one and the corporations simply order the creation of another similar figure. Only thing this might achieve is being used as an excuse to put certain minorities in psych wards, which is what psychiatry was created for to begin with
he was shot for turning against israel on recent issues, but they'll scapegoat trannies or palestiniansdon't fall for it
>>40997279Most authoritarian countries ban gun, but i feel like itll be a hard sell
>>40997378did the movie ever explain how the millennium falcon flew up to the death star without getting shot when in the earlier movie the death star detected them from like a million miles away?
>>40997319but all rightists are mentally ill
>>40997252>Kind of hard to spin itthat depends entirely on who did it.>>40997239>Do you think there'll be a right wing shift of being anti-gun?no. do you understand the difference between random spree killings and targeted assassinations?until they catch the shooter (which they might not ever do: hitting someone in the neck from 200 yards with a single shot is either impressively skilled or very impressively lucky), then for all we know it was a state actor whom gun laws could never have prevented from killing him.
>>40997239>Do you think there'll be a right wing shift of being anti-gun?NoBut we will probably see a big push for more surveillance, and military occupation of much of the country. If this was closer to the election, probably martial law
>>40997408
>>40997330>It's gonna be a tranny.this doesn't strike me as the "mentally ill weirdo" type of killing just judging from the distance of the shotthis was probably a communist or deranged liberal who hated Kirk's politics
>>40997410it doesn’t really matter who did it when you can just make shit up desu
>>40997371I mean I think charlie kirk actually does have particular special influence, the TPUSA stuff is actually pretty impactful in terms of creating a MAGA youth wing pipeline. But what im saying is that this is gonna ramp up more and more violence that's the real legacy.
>>40997424well if they never catch the shooter yeah then it doesn't matter who did it, I guessbut if they do (alive, that is) then there'll be an investigation into motive and so on. this is too high profile to just sweep under the rug.
guns don't kill people
>>40997239i tried to emphasize with him (didnt know who he was, im not a mut) but that thing really said that deaths are worthwhile just to preserve the 2nd amendmenthe should be happy, he helped get the 2nd amendment to stay!!!im sure daddy YHWH will take good care of him and hell be happy in hebbin>captcha: WJ4JOY
>>40997239Conservatives are already on edge and calling for mass violence over the Ukrainian girlExpect to hear this for the next month:Jail all violent blacksClean up all streets of major blue run citiesJail all left wing violent agitators/activists calling for violenceDeclare trans/dysphoria mental illnesses and institutionalize all transJail all doctors and pharma people who do procedures or provide hormones for trans
>>40997436empathise*
>>40997436>i tried to emphasize with himthe insane anti christian rhetoric in the rest of the post makes this difficult to believe
its funny when some leftists try to pretend to be edgy every now and then
>>40997437sure, they'll call for it, and literally zero of it will happen, because Jews still run this country and Jews don't want any of that to happen to their precious pets.>Declare trans/dysphoria mental illnesses and institutionalize all trans...well... that might happen if trannies keep pushing back on the Israel thing. I think it's highly unlikely but it isn't completely impossible unlike those things about blacks / left wingers / cities
Where was the good guy with a gun to stop the bad guy with the gun?
>>40997415That is what's already going on
>>40997239> shooter is still at largeif it turns out to be a damn tranny I'm accepting the reality that I'm in a simulation and chose hard mode in the game settings for some reason
low effort but hoping somebody will do it better
>>40997410200 yards is a very normal distance for most rifle calibers and with a scope . The fact that they hit Charlie's neck indicates that they miscalculated the elevation drop. They were likely aiming at Charlie's head or chest.I hate this timeline. If it was a trans person, then we are fucking cooked. They already don't want us having IDs, getting HRT, or having a 2nd Amendment right. God, please let the shooter be anyone other than a tranny.
>>40997474it was a sneak attack, & far away, obviously there was almost nothing they could do.just like the Trump assassination attempt.
>>40997500>200 yards is a very normal distance for most rifle calibers and with a scope .Sure it's "normal", but I've shot targets from 200y before and I wouldn't be surprised if I missed the first shot at that range. Add in the nerves from doing an honest-to-god assassination and I think it becomes a little more impressive. Then again Kirk was sitting in a chair not moving at all so maybe he had all the time in the world to line it up with a tripod which would make it less impressive. We don't know details like that at this point though
idf marksman got him, but a tranny will be prosecuted and found guilty for it
>>40997239literally who
>>40997410>>40997500The shot was a perfect killshot. It hit him just below the jaw and clearly went through at an angle inwards towards his spine, passing straight through the modular oblongata, which controls all motor functions. It's why his both his arms and hands immediately shot up to form a right angle with his fists clenched. That's a classic neurological reaction to trauma to that particular part of your central nervous system. That's the part of the head military snipers aim for, not the forehead, because death is instantaneous and irreversible. Plenty of people have survived headshots and shots to the chest, but nobody has ever recovered from a shot which hits the medulla oblongata. Tbh it looked like a professional hit, though i suppose someone could have gotten lucky
>>40997542FUCK YOU MEAN LITERALLY WHO. the small face you. how are you using /lgbt/ and don't know who this is. fucking glowie baka.
>>40997239Based! Who next?
>>40997460weak seething post
>>40997474>where was the good guy with a gunAbout 200 yards away from Kirk
>>40997518Yeah, we don't know enough yet. The most common zero for an AR is 50/200 yards. Assuming it's that (the most popular rifle type in America), then the shooter just needed to have a zeroed rifle and make 1 shot. If they found a secluded vantage point, then that would have frankly been a very easy shot on a what was essentially a still target. That's why I don't find the shot itself at all impressive and think the neck hit indicates a poorly made shot imo.Jesus, this is terrible. I didn't like Charlie ofc, but killing him is bad. This will escalate things. I hate this current timeline. I wish people could just live in peace and be left alone and treated with dignity. It was inevitable for this whole stupid culture war to get hot the longer it ran.
political violence is wrong>>40997253>Who the fuck cares? some nazi prick got killed boo hoo.he was not a nazi. if he was a legit neo-nazi i would possibly say it was justified but this was not thatlike if nick fuentes got assassinated i might support that. if literally any other public figure - even donald trump (as he is today) - were assassinated i would condemn it
>>40997239He got killed by the BRAVE and STUNNING tranny.
https://youtu.be/_TC2Dh_aT7s
>>40997584based
Why did he get killed just when the Epstein birthday book got released?
>>40997547I didn't know that, anon. Based on the video and image, I assumed (maybe falsely) that it was a neck shot and that he sinply bled out. I guess we'll learn more over time.
>>40997571you all know you can't actually be edgy, because people on your side who support purity culture will go after you and try to shun you.
Turn yourself in NOW
Possibly a tranny.
>>40997613typed while crying
>>40997584>BASED
>>40997603>Epstein Birthday Cardcome onnnn, its clearly fake.
>>40997613explain why it is bad to not make jokes about murder QUICK
>>40997639the funny thing is given this is 4chan you could be 100% ironic or 100% serious here
His last words were "gang violence"
>>40997640jokes are fine in themselvesthe problem is most people who make jokes in a case like this are actually happy to see political violence against their perceived enemies. that's the problem
>>40997622Of course, Kirk endlessly triggered trannies all the time. Trump would ban trannies from owning the gun.
>>40997652the gang violence is right behind me isn't it?
>>40997656You sound mad at jokesComedy is legal now, liberal
>>40997652people are saying this like it's some kind of grand irony but idgi
>>40997674jokes are fine, liking violence is bad
>>40997686Ok lib
>>40997696liberalism is good
>>40997239i never liked him but i don't think he deserved this it's just gut wrenching seeing someone die like that
>>40997426He's very easily replaceable, he's not some super charismatic once in a century leader, you can just quickly manufacture a new one out of many guys when you have the money, they are probably already thinking of which guy to select to replace him
>>40997301newsflash!
>>40997678The gay mafia got him duh
>>40997717Yeah but how many people wanna line up to be professional ragebaiters when the possible consequence is you get smoked by some boomer lib.
>>40997717I don't think he's unique personality wise but he had connections and an infrastructure that was spearheaded by him personally. I don't think its gonna make a difference really but we can't know what he would've done
>>40997260
>>40997747Meh a lot of people would do it for free, you underestimate the need of most humans for feeling important and powerful instead of just being boring average joes whose memory won't even last a decade after they die
>>40997783leftism and rightism are evil
>>40997795alot of people are ragebaiters cuz there's money involved. People don't kill CEOs and public figures because theres punishment.People like the fastest course of action
>>40997801pick your poison
>>40997437>Declare trans/dysphoria mental illnesses and institutionalize all transand to think transmedicalists wanted that to happen
>>40997876i can not support israel's actions in gaza while still not being a leftist (or rightist)
>>40997904guess what country charlie kirk liked to glaze
>>40997876my mom had so many abortions, I'm like jet li in the one.
>do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last ten years? >Too many >the number of trans shooters was 5, how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last 10 years? >counting or not counting gang violence? this was kirk's last conversation on earthhe literally died arguing about trannies being stripped of gun rights
>>40997923i don't care. i do not want people to be assassinated
>>40997948>muh troons>muh blacks>diesdamn
>>40997952you can want whatever you want, reality won't change
>>40997703nta but modern-day liberalism is very very bad, but so is conservativism
>>40997239Could someone do the tranysoyjack "ack" meme. But its Charlie Kirk saying "how many mass shoot-ack".Plz plz plz
>>40997420It was probably paid by Hasan so he hadnt to debate him.
>>40997960what a pitiful life
>>40997442Based. It couldnt be a tranny because the Charlie actually has political power and isnt under age.
>>40997983>esl-kun schizoposting againdid nobody give you your tendies tonight
>>40997253I've known for a long time that Kirk is a scumbag and a nasty person but besides being right wing in what ways was he a Nazi? Like I feel like I saw most of the stuff he said and none of it was typical right wing bullshit. Are there secret tapes of him heiling Hitler or something?
he sure loved supporting Israel, the modern-day Nazi country, so there's that lol
>>40997948At least he died doing what he loved.
>>40997239RIPHe achieved more than any of the edgy retards here celebrating his death.
>>40997239
>>40997948Do you have a link to this on video? I'd like tk hear the whole exchange.
>>40998063achievement isn't always a good thing when you're in charge of an organization that fuels hate, you knowthe average mtf working a compsci job has achieved better things than charlie kirk by not being a nonc3
>>40997547Medulla oblongata* not modular>>40997608I mean that much blood loss that fast is certainly not a good situation to be in for sure. But it's not "instantaneous loss of all ability to regulate all muscle tissue" bad, it might be survivable. Charlie Kirk was killed instantly, though I doubt they'll announce it like that.
>>40998083>the chick on the subway deserved itglowing post
>>40998092nonce*
>>40998047Didnt he went to some nazi shit with sneako? I a not going to call him a nazi but he manipulate people into terrible rethoric that had lead us to this gov.
>>40998101White people like that chick really have been getting too liberal with their use of the n-word lately.
>>40998092yeah i could achieve more than charlie kirk by burning down an office buildingdoesn't mean it's good or impressive or laudable
>>40998127
Not LGBT related. Mods should do their fucking jobs. Big event or not, who cares, this belongs on /pol/, go talk about it there.
>>40998092How was he one? I wasn't a fan of his, but a lot of his takes were mild and stuff that most people agreed with.
>>40998159you clearly have not been paying attention, he was horrible and constantly spouting hate with his content lolsaid gun deaths are necessary to protect other rights, that trans people are mentally ill, etc etc, do your own research
>>40998124If he did I'd like a source on that so I can spread it.
Turning Point USA more like Turning Point FMJ lmao gottem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJvwqoSxres
Happening in progress
Shout out to the old man who started screaming that he was the shooter to let the real shooter get away. Insanely based
>>40997327Politicallt strategic targets maybe not, but we need to put Hunter Schafer in a fucking lead-lined bunker for the next few years
>>40998303
>>40998345the real hero
>>40997460Ur guy still has a hole in his head anon.
>>40998345That's fucking awesome, I love that guy
>>40998303>>40998334I'm usually the "it's never a false flag" goy but ngl this feels like an op. We haven't had something like this in a long time
Given this and the stabbing that recently happened they're absolutely trying to manufacture conditions that'll allow them to pass more draconian measures against the public and put their balls in a vice. That being said I only feel bad for Kirk's family. Charlie himself is a genuinely hateful person and it's unfortunate that his kids will grow up never knowing what a cunt he was.
>>40998391https://wisconsinexaminer.com/2025/06/14/minnesota-house-democratic-leader-dead-after-politically-motivated-assassination/
>>40998404just because people agree doesn't mean it's chill that he was peddling hate lol, are you that stupid?
>>40998404They all need to die.
>>40997301it doesnt matter if it is or isnt a tranny, they will just say it's a tranny anyway
>>40998411Random local politicians get killed "randomly" all the time, new jersey had a black Republican woman get shot like 3 weeks into her first term a few years ago and it was a nothingburger. I'm talking man killed in a crowd, shooter at a high vantage point, everything on camera but the shooter flees without being seen. LHO lives
>>40998418hollow point USA
>>40997239another dead fascist. I feel sorry for his family, if he was a decent guy he would probably be alive today.
>>40997674When was comedy illegal?
>>40997622This could actually be a point in history for trans people I am not kidding this is the perfect excuse to go deathcon 1 on trannies
>>40998454are you being unironic?
>>40997593Peter Thiel?
A TRANNY DID IT LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLhttps://nitter.poast.org/GreatGrand30807/status/1965891571301396522
>>40998454I don't feel sorry for his family tbdesu, they're better off without him
>>40998462yes, I am. his family deserves sympathy despite his repugnant views.
>>40998469Trannies are always threatening violence.No evidence he actually did anything
you already made the other thread, you don't have to also post the image here. Also it wasn't them that did it, somebody already posted proof that it wasn't them retard
>>40998481that's pretty crazy.i don't really understand why leftists are like this. a person saying bad things and being rude does not mean it's okay to murder them in cold blood.
>>40998504It is to the left.Words are literally violence to them.
>>40998469God you stupid /pol/coded retards believe anything that is put in front of your face because you never learned object permanence. You are a lesser species than us.
>>40998504>don't mind the millions of people listening intently >don't mind the billions fueling our politics taking away rights from innocent peopleare you stupid?
>>40997640which joke.i was talking about how people like you will shit yourselves if someone says a slur but then try your hand at it when you feel its okay.its just hypocritical.even if it were just memes a lot of them it'd be one thing but its just people celebrating and being as annoying as possible to get engagement on twitter.
>>40998518you understand the point of our political system is that we can openly discuss ideas without fear of being murdered rightlike if we just say violence is all that matters then we're just going to turn into post-colonial africa...
>>40998469can it be one that does not look like a shovel faced AGP FREAK
>>40998518what rights? tell us.all i see is banning minors from being shown porn in school, being inside bars/drag shows, and banning transitioning minors.all of that is a good thing.give up, Its Over.
>>40997253He was a Zionist liberal, the Nazis are coming though. >>40997327You think the right dies with Trump kek? Most of his former supporters don't even support him anymore due to his lack of radicalism. You haven't seen anything yet. They are gate keeping the National Socialists from power, if they fall what comes afterwards, and what will inevitably absorb the supporters of the Zionist conservative right, will be unapologetically dedicated to destroying you, and it will, and there will be nothing that a small, sick minority will be able to do to stop them.
>>40998504>>40998514the republicucks cry out as they strike you
>>40998533I understand you're sad your only male role model is dead but don't be dense. when you take away rights, people get mad. political violence has been around forever. >>40998541maybe all the constitutional rights being taken away from immigrants? what do you say to that besides what you idiots always say which is, oh, the constitution doesn't apply to illegals, but it does. you /pol/days are so fucking stupid I swear to god it's actually almost impressive
>>40998543i was sieg heiling when i was 12 too, you'll grow out of it
>>40998541>>40998543yawwwnnnn
>>40998541I think the one it's really over for is charlie cuck LOL get fucking owned freak
>>40998543go back to /gif/
>>40998543>Zionistyeah, exactly, Nazi
im just losing sympathy for the left. anything that ends up resulting from this will be pretty much their fault
>>40998585you already used this shtick chudcel
I love all the seething from the /pol/ tourists in this thread lmao
>>40998603i'm apolitical, i literally dont keep up with politics. i just want my society to not collapse all aorund me thanks
>no no no, I love society, please don't collapse, it all works so well!!
Will there be round two?It seems 90% of humanity don't like homosexuals and trannies. You are straight up exterminated in some places, like the Middle-East
>>40998563you do not have any rights to kill people or to come to our country illegally.keep making things up.everything will change around you and it will be over before you even realize it.
>>40998614kirk will rot in his grave and then nothing will happen
>>40998620it does. do you just have no respect for how easy your life is?
>>40998621>the third world hates you so you must be bad
>>40998629except for the fact that immigrants commit a miniscule amount of crime compared to citizens?but keep posting about le revolution, I'm sure that'll make your mom bring your tendies downstairs faster :P
anthill status: kicked
>>40998059you are so, so far from the truth if you think the problem with Israel is that they are "modern-day Nazis"
>>40998614Too late, people voted for Trump and now he get to make everyones life terrible.
>>40997408I'm using your post as an excuse to say that making space combat WW2 carrier groups and dogfighting with broadsides is retarded and bad taste, space combat should be like Napoleonic infantry and cavalry firing laser volleys at double digit light second distances.
>>40998645nigga what are you yappin about?>refusing to say "illegal immigrants"oh i've seen this one before.
>>40998661you are blind if you think that's not the problem lmao, it's a colonialist apartheid ethnostate, which is exactly what Nazi Germany was. are you retarded?
>>40998672>I didn't say illegal immigrants so I must be implying they're legally hereyou can mince my words all you want but that's not going to get you anywhere sis, they are here illegally but the only thing illegal about it is that we won't process them for documentation, which is a matter of simple paperwork. but nice try!
>>40998678everyone involved in wwii was a colonialist apartheid state. that's just the way the world was back thenthe Nazis were good guys and they were fighting against the evil Jewish coalition that won and controls the world now which is why Israel is allowed to do what it doesinb4 >wow an actual nazi wow i dont evenyes you are on 4chan
>>40998666satanic get
>>40998661sorry anon but ethnostates are a bad thing that only result in mass suffering whenever they're attempted
>>40998691LOL you are delusional holy shit wowyou will die alone from a luger round to the skull
>>40998700actually a lot of them have been pretty nice.>>40998705>lol lmao holy shit wow so funny haha i am laughing while posting thing
>>40998715seethe harder, please
>>40998691>vanilla flavored nazis won against chocolate flavored nazis and that's really bad and you should care a lot
>just realized i'm doing the millennial thing of continually replying to someone's posts>and that's gay as fuckcan't believe i didn't see it, i gotta get out of here>>40998689oh shut up youthings will get better but you're still going to be annoying as fuck to everyone around you, good luck
>>40998715Angry hands wrote this post
>a man dies>politicians immediately attempt to capitalize on his deathlawmakers aren't human
>>40998733don't let the door hit you on the way out! :3
>>40998720>explains clearly and succinctly what a woman is>OMG HE SAID THE THING HE SAID THE THINGapes
>>40998726well if the Nazis won there'd be no genocide in Gaza I can tell you that much>>40998738I am a little annoyed at the world and about politics all the time, yeah. It comes with the territory. I didn't mean to pretend otherwise
>>40998754>>well if the Nazis won there'd be no genocide in Gaza I can tell you that muchyeah it'd be located in the soviet union
>>40998754try not to cry too hard that your cis white male life is slightly harder than it used to be!
>>40998666Glowie
>>40998752>27 seconds>succinct
>>40998778sorry it's hard to process adhd zoomzoom
>>40998751bye faggot!
>>4099877827 seconds is pretty fast, yeah, it's okay if you have ADHD
>>40998650this retard was saying the same shit a week ago
>the pol-fag is still replying
>>40998798>still isn't bannedlmao, it's never incitement if you're a rightoid
>>40998715>actually a lot of them have been pretty nice.meanwhile:isreal results in isrealnazi germany results in the deaths and suffering of millionsrwanda results in the hutus and tutsis killing each-other for many decades
>>40998771It's not mostly for myself that I'm sad, it's for the end of civilization itself as dysgenics drowns everything nice about the world in 10 billion humans. It's not going to be pleasant for anyone, anywhere and I don't think anything can be done to stop it.The only thing that softens the blow of thinking about that historical crossroads is the idea that there are other existential threats that might make it ultimately irrelevant -- AI, environmental depletion, meteor strike, mass disease or what have you
>>40998819you sound really annoying to be around
>>40998743>RED state>RED ctiy>RED campusNO NO NO DUH LIBS DID DIS
>>40998817>nazi germany results in the deaths and suffering of millionsthat's victim blaming, dearmost of Europe were nice the entire time they were ethnostates.
>>40998842burgers are lazy odds are no one drove 1000 miles to do this
>>40998842there plenty of native utah libs.
>>40998842nta but it's just statistically unlikely was their point, dumbass. also like 90% of these shootings are done by rightoids you know, even the trump shooters were right wingersI know this is bait but boy do you sound stupid
>>40998842>BUT HE CROSSED STATE LINES!!!!!!!!lmao
>>40998839So you're essentially admitting that things were better in an ethnostate.
>>40998863um...yeah but I'm the nazi so I don't think that should be surprising. maybe some confusion going on here
>>40998839>that's victim blaming, dearidk I'm not blaming the people sent to the camps for enduring pain and suffering.>most of Europe were nice the entire time they were ethnostates.I doubt they were ethnostates but even then most of europe was not "nice"
>>40998868
hurry up and start the civil war already
>>40998650> why do they want us dead?kek
I don't like marvel can we watch trainspotting instead
>>40998875>I doubt they were ethnostatessure there were, practically zero nonwhite people lived in any given European state for most of their history. maybe they didn't have the technological delights that we enjoy today but from all accounts they were quite pleasant to live in.
>>40998887"right wingers" will never fire back, they will just "imagine if the roles were reversed"
>the nazi is STILL postingI thought you were supposed to be leaving
>>40998893lol
>>40998904are you done yet?
>>40998893>sure there were, practically zero nonwhite people lived in any given European state for most of their history.that's not an ethnostate that's just modern transportation methods not being invented yet.>maybe they didn't have the technological delights that we enjoy today but from all accounts they were quite pleasant to live in.lol, lmao even
Imagine having to experience the last seconds of your life while discussing transsexuals on a campus lmao
>>40998928He died doing what he loved, being an absolute cuntnugget
>>40998928
>>40998872I'm nta and only read half the convo so yeah lol
why do all these freaks have a huge collection of anti trans art? are they just obsessed or what
>>40997239!LETS GOThe right wing media will spin this to their benefit ,but if this happens more times ,it will absolutely have a cilling effekt on said right wing propaganda
>>40998937Zoomoids are such prides holy shit
It was so statistically likely that Charlie Kirk was thinking about trannies at the moment of his death that it actually happened
>>40998926>that's not an ethnostate that's just modern transportation methods not being invented yet.potato, potato. the idea of a nation-state being anything other than an ethnostate would have been seen as illegible back thenand why is it funny to say that life was nice in Europe up until recently? I don't understand is this an LGBT rights thing. Because black and brown people aren't any better about that so I don't see the contradiction>>40998930I'm a nazi who is blackpilled on the ability of "the right" to effect any political change via violenceBowers, Tarrant, Roof, McVeigh, all totally ineffective
>>40998882how are the liberals shooting kirk if no one is crossing state lines?
the amount of seething is filling my mana bar, you /pol/tards are so lame kek
>>40998938it seems like a mismatch to post this on the day that someone actually got killed when the topic of the comic seems to be bullyingalso remember when the e-left tried to make comics in reply to /pol/ comics and they all looked like this? yeesh. eventually they gave up
>>40998938kek>>40998992found one right herealso remember the democratic state representatives that were shot and murdered this year too, where was the right calling for sympathy then
>>40997279Doubt it considering how much cuckservatives love thier gun lobbyists money
>>40998992
>>40999009>where was the right calling for sympathy thenmaybe I'm not trafficking in the right spheres to have witnessed it, but I didn't see anyone endorsing it and certainly don't remember any public figures blaming the victim.maybe Fuentes did? he's always shooting his mouth off but I wouldn't know>>40999029There's not much money in the gun lobby, it's powerful because of cuckservatives' ideological dedication to it, not because of money
>>40998999>ummm there's liberals crossing state lines to shoot him>NOOOOOOOO NOT LIKE THAT
>>40998967Hey remember how Charlie Kirk tried running defense for the Esptein koverup Weird how this is the guy you wanna defend
>>40997239>read it as "pronouns dead"Heh
>>40999062did he?
based bibi will avenge kirk's death by offing billion palestinians
>>40999082>muh muh epstein (biggest political embarrassment of all time)
>>40999068play retarded some more bitch
grok in denial about the shooting
>>40999124Bros in the 4 stages of grief
>>40999124hallucinating token predictor hallucinates, more at 11
>>40998964I mean he was mumbling some made up shit about tranny shooters right before his neck got sliced so yeah, he wasn't thinking about his wife and kids when he died lol
>>40999082Imagine defending a pedo bekause hes enough of a skumbag for you to like himWild>>40999089Said something along the lines of "I think we should trust the government on this one" when talking about the Epstein files
>>40999138my brother in christ, you are the qanoners and pizzagaters screeching about pedos
>>40997589>This will escalate things.what escalation came from trump's double assassination attempts? replublicunts will NEVER do anything. there's a less than fucking 0 chance they do anything ever.
It was MOSSAD but the patsy will be a trans woman because we're currently what's being thrown under the bus.
PAY SOME DAMN RESPECT YOU FUCKING LIBTARD
>>40999180cope levels off the charts. fuck the dems too btw
>>40999184> youth activist groupfascinating way to describe propaganda outlet funded by billionaires
>>40999158>Said something along the lines of "I think we should trust the government on this one" when talking about the Epstein filesoh so he ran defense for Trump running defense for Epstein.yeah I guess that counts. goes to show how important being friendly to Jewish power is in those circles, doesn't it
>banning the poltard invaderssometimes the mods on this board are alright
>>40999180Dems that defend pedos should be shot too>>40999199Yeah bekause I personally wrote that real artikle that definitely existsInkase youre too stupid to figure out that was sarkasm ,as apparently me shitting on pedo defenders is defending pedos ,no I didnt and no it isnt>>40999227If the few good parts of sosiety take it upon themselves to engage in terrorizm and violense to disempower the elites and their supporters ,and destroy the position of elites in sosiety ,there wont be any more elite AIPAC types to bend the knee to
>>40997308That was a pretty good shot though. I'd be proud to call them one of us.
>>40998564Yeah, every troon says the same retarded shit "I was such a Nazi when I was 12", no, you were just normal and then weaknesses in your mentality were exploited and now you're a self-hating faggot that obsesses over pornography and childish bullshit. If you are a White person it is totally retarded to support anything other than National Socialism and White chauvinism, it is the only ideology that advocates our interests in a robust way. All ideologies are born out of chauvinism for a group, to adhere to any other ideology is to support chauvinism against the White race. The troon ideology is born entirely out of chauvinism to the porn-brained, degenerate sub-culture that they are part of, which expresses itself in a hatred for the natural and the innocent, hence why trans violence manifests itself in the form of violence against Christian children.
>>40999320no correlation between trans culture and porn addiction, yet your entire worldview depends on itthe most transphobic boards are full to the brim with loli spamming, so the harming children thing is all projection
Here's what's going to happen if it's a tranny shooter.>Transgender identity and ideology will be classified once again as a mental disorder, amending the DSM>Gun owners who are mentally ill, specifically trannies, will have their guns possessed.
Politics has really got to end.
>>40998964
>>40998159>>he also argued that abortion is murder and should be illegal. He opposed exceptions for rape.[75]>In October 2021, Kirk said on his podcast that Democrats wanted Americans to live where "there is no cultural identity, where you live in sexual anarchy, where private property is a thing of the past, and the ruling class controls everything.">he said that Democratic immigration policies were aimed at "diminishing and decreasing white demographics in America."[34][91] >The speech also saw Kirk condemn the Civil Rights Act of 1964, calling its passage a "huge mistake" and alleging that it had created a "permanent DEI-type bureaucracy".[96]>Kirk posted on Instagram in March 2024 that "The 'Great Replacement' is not a theory, it's a reality.">Kirk defended Musk, stating that "Jewish communities have been pushing the exact kind of hatred against whites that they claim to want people to stop using against them."[104]>In 2024, Kirk cited Leviticus 20:13 ("If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them") as "God's perfect law when it comes to sexual matters".[108]
>>40998968>and why is it funny to say that life was nice in Europe up until recently?Because for most of history, European countries were either feudal kingdoms, aristocratic bureaucracies, colonial empires or militarized nation-states that tortured, enslaved and extorted their citizens with absolutely no value for human life whatsoever. Sure if you were a non-native you were subhuman and killed, but even if you were a native that just meant you were state property, not like you had habeas corpus or human rights to consider. You'd have to be shitbrained insane to think any country pre 1800's "Was nice to live in" or anyway liveable comparable to the standards we have now.
>>40999387kek
>>40999427>abortion is murder and should be illegalokay but this is actually true? how the left became the posterchild for killing children is something that will never make sense to me as a theorycel
>>40999446Pregnant women have as much rich to evict a fetus as a landlord does to evict a tenant.
>>40999221Literally a hitler youth indoctrination thinkthank to abuse and groom children
>>40999446>the leftmy nigger you're quote literally right of saudi arabia on this
>>40999431>tortured, enslaved and extorted their citizens with absolutely no value for human life whatsoeverc'mon, now. for one thing that's an exaggeration. and moreover, the notion of the modern nation state really only developed in the 17th century, when I said that living in most European countries has been nice for most of those states' histories I really did mean like, post industrial revolution.
>>40999469european countries had dogshit labor rights and were constantly at war up until the end of ww2
>>40999387
>>40999504Okay, I still believe they would have been nice to live in and more to the point, they didn't stop being ethnostates at the end of ww2 and you seem to agree that they were nonetheless still nice at that point.
>>40999320I'm white but genuinely I don't give a fuck about the "white race"; what I do care about is maximizing the extent to which individuals can self actualize in order to maximize the extent to which they can contribute back to society, and maximizing individuals' positive liberties. Neither of which can be achieved with a state let alone an authoritarian one
>>40999545I've got bad news for you about nonwhite people
>>40999469Its not an exaggeration. Look at any European country throughout the second World War, especially in the Balkans or mediterranean and learn how much life was worth for most of these genocidal nations and tell me life was valuable. The sheer amount of ethnic cleansing the British and French did alone against their own people (Mostly through enacted starvation that would make even Stalin blush) while building their empires is staggering. But this is just getting int /pol/shit and I'm arguing with a Nazi who believes in mass murder and racial superiority so I'll digress for my own sanity.
>>40999320I guarantee you are underage.
>>40999320> If you are a White person it is totally retarded to support anything other than National Socialism
>>40999553white vs nonwhite does not matter to me in the slightest
>>40999553Why does every worthless fat fuck Natso act like they're some example of a superior race when they themselves, are a worthless slob posting on 4chan deluding themselves and have contributed nothing compared to successful members of most minorities they hate so much.
>>40999457>landlords>deserving rights
>>40999565>(Mostly through enacted starvation that would make even Stalin blush)You're exaggerating again... for the record I don't believe in mass murder, I believe in nice things and being nice>>40999572That's an interesting photo of the typhus dead at Bergen Belsen, but why did you post it?>>40999584Ah, but it should. Because the things that you want to exist in the world are instantiated to significantly different degrees by white people and nonwhite people. Check out for comparison the state apparatus basically any nonwhite country>>40999598I'm not fat :(I just know how minorities vote, and it isn't for libertarian policies. You can look that up anywhere
>>40999610>Check out for comparison the state apparatus basically any nonwhite country>implying the state can be used to achieve my desires
>>40999553white/nonwhite is genuinely not the right distinction to draw for what you're getting ati'd much rather live in japan or thailand than in belarus or hungary.
>>40999603Rights aren't "deserved", they're inherent.
>>40997308um... about that...
>>40999636well, Hitler called the Japanese honorary Aryans for a reason. I wouldn't mind living there, they have a really nice country. but as for this ... person >>40999634 who wants to abolish all states, or whatever, living around nonwhite people is going to make that impossible. all nonwhite people, even the Japanese, are much too collectivist to sustain that kind of state of affairs.what's wrong with Belarus anyway? I don't know anything about it but you mentioned it like it was a telling example, or something
>>40999610>over a million people died in britain's induced famine on Ireland>estimates of 4-6 million over a decade died during the Pacte de Famine in france>some numbers put deaths as high as 4 million for the Bengal famine the british empire did over colonial IndiaYou probably think the first one and last one is good or whatever because 'irish aren't really white' or some nonsense.
>>40998175Troons are mentally ill. All you evil scumbags will be put into camps soon.
>>40999660>all nonwhite people, even the Japanese, are much too collectivist to sustain that kind of state of affairs.anon I'm also collectivist to an extent; just not in the way that confuses collective interest for state interest.
>>40999610Well yeah, a surprising number of minorities voted for Trump in the states so you might have a point.>>40999652>Look mom I posted it again X3Your thread got deleted for a reason, twice. Are you that desperate for attention?
>>40999672>You probably think the first one and last one is good or whatever because 'irish aren't really white' or some nonsense.No, literally nobody believes that the Irish aren't white and literally nobody has ever seriously believed that the Irish aren't white. Inb4 harper's magazine cartoonBut, I mean, if "some estimates" put those famines at 4-6 million, then, yeah, it's an exaggeration to say that they would make Stalin blush. "Some estimates" put Stalin's induced famine deaths in the tens of millions.>>40999681well nonwhites like oppressive interventionist states, specifically, not just your narrowly defined idea of communalism, so the distinction is not relevant.
>>40997239READY TO FIGHT FOR TRANS RIGHTS, THIS IS MY WAR FACE
>>40999340Transgenderism is really incidental to my worldview, it really has nothing to do with the core tenants of my ideology, White chauvinism is at the core of my ideology. As for whether trans culture and pron addiction are related, it is manifestly the case, look at characters like f1nn5ter and his associations, perhaps the most high profile tranny who has the most sway and who directly targets their content at children, look at trans humor which consists almost entirely of sex jokes, the ideology itself is inherently about sex and the altering of your sexual organs and your position within society, of course it is associated with an unhealthy relationship with sex, this is obviously the case given what it drives people towards, namely the denial of core elements of their identity and their biological reality. >>40999545Yeah, well you're wrong and your perception of what self actualization and what it does is flawed. I personally also agree with a general expanding of positive liberties, but expanding positive liberties in all areas isn't inherently good and doesn't necessarily make society better. Ultimately the quality of the people, their biological characteristics and society's internal harmony and sense of direction, are what make a society desirable to live in, and race is a core component in that. A free white, homogeneous society can resemble Switzerland or Finland, a "free society" which lacks all governmental controls will look like a hell hole if it is populated by non-whites, just look at South America and the lawless nations of Subsaharan Africa. >>40999584So? You're wrong. It does matter, it does have an impact on society. A society of free black people just becomes Liberia, a society of free White people becomes America.>>40999598Your entire ideology hinges on the idea that national socialists are losers, which is also a projection on your part. >>40999568I promise you, I am 25 and I am a PHD student at a prestigious University.
>>40999724>I promise you, I am 25 and I am a PHD student at a prestigious University.PragerU doesn't count.
>>40999683>Your thread got deleted twice for a reason
>>40999702>No, literally nobody believes that the Irish aren't white You're kidding right? They were considered some sort of mongrel white-negros and banned from most professions in the States. That's why so many today work in the NY police force and little 'ireland-towns', it was the only job they were allowed to.
>>40999724>So? You're wrong. It does matter, it does have an impact on society. A society of free black people just becomes Liberia, a society of free White people becomes America.hear hear.the pattern of excuse making has to stop, or it will destroy civilization. full stop(The blackpilled take is that it already has, but...)
>>40999735Dennis Prager is a Jewish supremacist, your distorted and delusional worldview is the only reason you could possibly think I fall into his camp. I go to an equivalent of an Ivy League University in my country, one of the best in the world.
>>40999745No, I'm not kidding. That's simply not true. That's a modern meme. It's true that people didn't LIKE the Irish. No disagreement there. They also probably had pretty good reasons not to like the Irish. They were disproportionately drunk, violent, and, you know, Catholic. But literally nobody ever thought that they weren't White. Just because you don't want to hire someone doesn't mean that you specifically think that they're nonwhite. It really and truly literally never happened. Despite the fact that you can find headlines written in the 21st century and retards on Quora insisting that it is true, it isn't. There is no evidence of this being true, it just isn't true.Why should I run so much defense for Irish people? I don't know I don't even really like them. But it's simply not true that they weren't considered White and that little factoid is a pet peeve of mine
>>40999724>Your entire ideology hinges on the idea that national socialists are losers,You just said in the same sentence that what determines a quality of a people is ' biological characteristics', and not the character, intelligence or personal experiences of the individual. So it's obvious you think you possess better qualities than any minority, regardless of you being a stupid, lazy immature psychopathic slob over the worth of doctors, scientists, researchers and people who put in the work and contribute. Simply because you're White.That shows chauvinism to be the worldview of a child. You're so entitled you think your worth and quality comes from belonging to people who have done better than you even over people who have actually earned it, simply because they do not belong to your tribe.
>>40999787>the character, intelligence or personal experiences of the individualnta but these are also the product of biological characteristics. you're misunderstanding the way the world works if you think there's a contradiction between the statement "Ramanujan's was a greater mind than my own", and "White people create societies that are desirable to live in while Indians do not"
>>40999776White in the 20ths was socio-biological racialized category, which groups could exclude Irish and Italians from whenever convenient and extend when pushed. It wasn't something with actually any sophisticated science or thought behind it.
>>40999819Nothing in this screenshot of the front page of a 2022 grievance study by some Irishman contains any evidence to the contrary of what I'm saying. What it says is "Umm, if you look at the evidence, people back then didn't like n----s, and they also didn't like Irish. So basically, that means Irish were nonwhite"NO. Not true. "The idea of the Irish as 'the n----s of Europe'" -- yeah, maybe as a metaphor. Like if Nick Land writes that AGPs are "the Jews of gender" that doesn't mean that he thinks trans women are literally actually Jews. The offhand friendly reference to Noel Ignatiev who is largely the source of this massive distortion is just the cherry on top. Ignatiev: "People in Ireland didn't have an idea of whiteness when they lived in Ireland, so they 'became white', in a sense, after they moved to America and gained a concept of identity defined across the white/black line"Retards: "Wow!! People literally used to think that Irish were nonwhites!!!"
>>40999810"Indians" was not even a category before the 1800's, it was a multitude of nations that the British Empire cobbled together for the convenience of exploitation, which is why certain sects of India (geographically, that are not situated in swampy marshes or the southern coast) do not even consider other groupings actually Indian. This doesn't have anything to do with their aptitude but entirely where they're born.>you're misunderstanding the way the world works if you think there's a contradiction between the statement "Ramanujan's was a greater mind than my own", and "White people create societies that are desirable to live in while Indians do not"It shows you think the traits of a society are created by biology, and not the hellish history and historical ties a society has put itself through. I don't have anything against Russians and don't think they're biologically predestined to be drunkards or savages. I think their country is undesirable and determined to be like that, because they've been that way for centuries going all the way back to the Mongols.If you took an Indian or Russian out of their country and threw them elsewhere they'd just do as well as anywhere else.
>>40999660>what's wrong with Belarus anyway? I don't know anything about it but you mentioned it like it was a telling example, or somethingi picked it as an exemplar of eastern european countries culturally aligned with russia, which are generally not good places for people like me.the set of countries that is actually culturally compatible with me (not culturally similar to me! no country is culturally all that similar to me because i'm a weird internet person!) does not really track any particular ancestry at all. it's like anglo diaspora countries (but not the UK itself), japan, some non-muslim parts of southeast asia, apparently random parts of latin america that probably follow some pattern i haven't seen yet. i don't think these nations have an underlying common ancestry that's the reason i feel compatible with them, i think they have circumstances that have led to semi-convergent evolution.
>>40999864>“The Iberians are believed to have been originally an African race, who thousands of years ago spread themselves through Spain over Western Europe. Their remains are found in the barrows, or burying places, in sundry parts of these countries. The skulls are of low prognathous type. They came to Ireland and mixed with the natives of the South and West, who themselves are supposed to have been of low type and descendants of savages of the Stone Age, who, in consequence of isolation from the rest of the world, had never been out-competed in the healthy struggle of life, and thus made way, according to the laws of nature, for superior races.”IT was pretty literal
>>40999787Character, intelligence, and how one responds in the face of personal experiences is, at least in large part, biological. I didn't mention individuality at all because on a societal level it is not what is important. I am superior because of my own personal qualities, I am superior to you, but when I look at my people I am not even thinking of myself, and am assessing the situation independent of my place in it. If the bulk of society is filled with biological inferiors then it will tend to be worse than a society in which the average is largely biologically superior. Of course I also support racial homogeneity because that creates the most tranquil society and I prefer to have a place where I can be surrounded by my own people. There is no malice nor is there any unearned feeling of superiority in my ideology, my own feelings of myself and my self worth as a person are completely distinct. You are really terrible at psychoanalysis, which is evidently what you are trying to practice.
>>40999819This is nonsense, it has no basis in history, this is simply an anti-white, disingenuous argument designed to erode the identity of Europeans. You are a retard, you have no critical thinking skills, and your opinions are worthless.
>>40999868>I don't have anything against Russians and don't think they're biologically predestined to be drunkards or savages.I quite like Russians but I must disagree, I think there is some significant biological predisposition towards drunkenness there.>If you took an Indian or Russian out of their country and threw them elsewhere they'd just do as well as anywhere else.We have very, very strong evidence that people of different racial ancestries have different levels of intelligence, patience, conscientiousness, altruism. Basically mental or social attribute you could coinceivably care about differs, to some extent, between races.>>40999871>i don't think these nations have an underlying common ancestry that's the reason i feel compatible with them, i think they have circumstances that have led to semi-convergent evolution.Let me tell you where it is since you haven't put it together yet: The places that are nice for you are countries within the Hajnal line, places that were admistered by those countries, and Japan. Japanese people evolved convergently toward Hajnal whites. Those convergent processes are now reflected in the characteristics, determined in large part by genes, of the people who live there.
>>40999774>In my countryIndia?
>>40999926Somewhere in Europe.
>>40999896>Character, intelligence, and how one responds in the face of personal experiences is, at least in large part, biological.The vast majority of human beings are not so disparate that their failings or intelligence are determined by something like biology. Hell not even between the same race- Are you telling me that North and South Korea diverged into a separate biological catechism where one side inherited the genes of success and prosperity and the other just kinda got shit luck with characteristics of a country of failures?>I am superior because of my own personal qualities, I am superior to youWhat does this even mean? How are you superior to me? You don't even know me.>If the bulk of society is filled with biological inferiors then it will tend to be worse than a society in which the average is largely biologically superior.Or maybe the contingencies of a society are so rightfully ingrained that depending on some perceived 'superiority' will not make a perfect or better society when the culture you follow and embrace is reprehensible. All you're spouting is some shitty eugenics that have been dribbled out by retards going back to the Spartans, and all it ever leads to is some arbitrary idea that some man's cockhuffing idea of ubermensch from their repressed religious ideals will reflect in a better man, instead of the childish ideals they wish to project. Societies rise and fall via the rhyme of history, there isn't some telos where biology will push any to the top or inevitability to a better society. Most cases, any advantage was always circumstantial (and usually just based off slavery as an advantage).>You are really terrible at psychoanalysis, which is evidently what you are trying to practice.I don't think you even know the first thing about psychoanalysis.
>>40999914>ad hominem in place of scholarismYeah, not really showing those Ivy League skills there buddy.
>>40999920>I think there is some significant biological predisposition towards drunkenness there.And not because they've been assfucked by a different despot for every single epoch of their society's history, who has made life successively worse and more oppressive? >We have very, very strong evidence Redditor-tier /pol/ screenshots are not evidence. Skull sizes are not evidence. People that genuinely think anatomy is destiny always show they do not have any awareness of how haploid genetics work when pressed under scrutiny.
>>41000109you are not familiar with the state of research on intelligence differences between say, blacks and whties in America. if you want we can talk about that now. it's not "skull sizes and /pol/ screenshots"
>>40999920>Japanese people evolved convergently toward Hajnal whites.This is just fanfic nonsense.Japanese people share 99.998% of their DNA with chinese, koreans, Mongolians and malay. There aren't any significance differences.Outside, the obvious environ of being raised in isolation for an island for millenia and developing an entire separate culture. But its better to pretend like you're a geneticist and write personal ideas you find soothing
>>41000129I don't think you understand how convergent evolution works as well as you imagine you do. You can share 99.99% of your DNA with one group or another but if the 0.01% in which you differ is all really instructive for a certain trait, and if similar pressures resulted in similar selection on a different population that was more genetically distant from you, then you can converge with that more distant population on that one trait. Of course the separate culture is what caused these changes though -- but a human population's culture and that same population's gene pool have a base/superstructure relationship, with the one determing the other which then feeds back into the first. Saying "of course it's not genetics -- it's culture!" is a non-response unless the time period being discussed is too small to have had any selective effect on reproduction, ie less than one generation. Japan's culture evolved separately from the mainland for hundreds of years at minimum. (And for what it's worth I think the difference between the Japanese and the Koreans are somewhat overstated)
>>41000120And you think that's because of eugenics, and not because one has the privilege of education and societal position for two centuries while the other hasn't? Surely you can validate that with international comparisons and European counterparts irregardless of nationality, right? I also get the impression you're one of those people that says 'X group has Y IQ!!!11' without actually understanding what an IQ is or what it measures.
>>40999920>The places that are nice for you are countries within the Hajnal line, places that were admistered by those countries, and Japan.thailand is incorrectly excluded by this standard and the UK is incorrectly included.
>>41000168No, culture is not based on genes. It's based on memes and language and memonics. Genes are basically protein polymers and pairs f amino acids that determine DNA. Your genetics determine who you are physically, but culture is how you raise your children, how you treat your parents and elders, how you treat your relatives, what your relationship to animals are, how you raise your own children. All these things are completely, utterly, wholly separate from any influence of the genes. So you have the idea, for instance, that human beings should be literate and highly-educated, and place value on self-betterment. This has no genetic component. It's just purely a social or cultural value. A society can lack it one generation, but then instill it socially the next generation changing the characteristics of the society in very quick order with no change to the genetic structure. Its not that some series of specific proteins (And we both know you do not have the expertise or intelligence to point out which or how it relates to something as complex as underdevelopment) made that group more literate, but an event historically and culturally happened created that change.And culture is something that is very very very very very very very easily shifted if the proper memes or language and memonics are in place, very quickly. Whereas genes take, literally hundreds of thousands to even millions of years to change even minorly with any real significance. So this is the real underlying issue. Its not genetic differences that cause the issues, but the culture and language they produce.
>>41000171>And you think that's because of eugenics, and not because one has the privilege of education and societal position for two centuries while the other hasn't?It's because of differences in genetics, yes. When you force black people to have the same amount of education as white people, they do not become as intelligent as white people. There is lots and lots and lots of data on this. >Surely you can validate that with international comparisons and European counterparts irregardless of nationality, right?"Irregardless" of nationality? Well, no -- there are some European nations whose inhabitants seem to be more intelligent than others. But that doesn't really undercut what I'm saying, all it suggests is that perhaps the correct amount of racism is *even higher* than racism at the mere level of continental ancestry. Like, maybe it's right to be racist against Romanians, too, even though their ancestors are almost all European.... but I don't like getting into that>>41000173Well anon, I'll admit that I really don't know anything about Thailand.The UK went to shit for other reasons. It used to be nice.
>>41000218>"Irregardless" of nationality?I mean do you have data backing up that blacks and people of color score similar intelligence tests, intentionally regardless of country or upbringing to reflect this? Otherwise you're just ignoring the culture/societal bias here.If what you're saying of genetics was even true, blacks and whites should both obtain similar scores across both Canada, US, Sweden and Australia. Is this the case?
>>41000235*internationally
>>41000210>All these things are completely, utterly, wholly separate from any influence of the genes. So you have the idea, for instance, that human beings should be literate and highly-educated, and place value on self-betterment. This has no genetic component.This is not true. Full stop. It does have a genetic component. Literally every human trait has a genetic component. It's also true that human traits, despite having genetic components, can flourish or totally die out in a single generation without any change to the genetic composition of the population. But there's no contradiction between that notion and the notion of a genetic component for any given human trait. Really obvious and stupid example that you can work backwards from via analogy: Imagine an insane society in which everyone above 5'4" in height has their limbs buzz-sawed off until they are only 5'4". Everyone shorter than that (measured at the age of 25 let's say) is shot. In this society, the relationship between genes and height is nonexistent. In the next generation the culturally determined cutoff changes (for whatever reason) to 5'2" and everyone's heights change with it. But we would never say that that proves there's no genetic component to human height
>>41000235>If what you're saying of genetics was even true, blacks and whites should both obtain similar scores across both Canada, US, Sweden and Australia. Is this the case?Yes
>>41000055>The vast majority of human beings are not so disparate that their failings or intelligence are determined by something like biology.Intelligence is far more impacted by biology than you give it credit for, it is a complex organ which even slight deviations in specific areas can vastly alter someone's perception and understanding of the world, furthermore it has been demonstrated that intelligence is largely heritable .> Are you telling me that North and South Korea diverged into a separate biological catechism where one side inherited the genes of success and prosperity and the other just kinda got shit luck with characteristics of a country of failures?There have been no tests of IQ that have been publicly released of North Koreans, furthermore, I never suggested that the entire state of a society is completely independent of circumstances, that is just a shoddy and disingenuous argument. If you applied North Korean conditions to an African society it would likely be very different. Nothing else you said is worth engaging with, its just hostile, mental slop. Sure, circumstances have an effect, but any honest studying of human history will see that some groups respond to the same situation better or worse than other groups, and some groups have more of an aptitude for complex systems and problems than others, this is just self evident. >>41000071Why bother wasting your time when someone makes reference to something so absurd and debunked as Irish people not being considered white or makes reference to someone so obviously animated by anti-white hatred as Noel Ignatev? Besides, the content of that entire page is just unfounded assertions cobbled together with the aim of eroding white identity and portray it as some sort of malicious, socially constructed weapon. If such an approach was taken against any other racial identity that race would not be expected to entertain it, particularly when the content of the work is just assertions.
>>41000250>Literally every human trait has a genetic component.Well yes mate but these differences are very concrete and noticeable enough that even the medical community could tell you the outcome. People from africa lack certain lactose enzymes from genes, we know that much. We don't have any way to say which genes from which Africans or Europeans lead to success or intelligence because neurological development and our understanding of the brain isn't there yet. So you're essentially saying some very slanted-racialized science understands how the mind and its output works better than the top neuroscientists in the field? In this sense, saying that 'Humans have different genes' means nothing. You and I have different genes. Me and my mom and sister do. Human genomes have over 3.3 billion pairs, and even across continental ancestry you're likely to vary by the extent of hundreds of millions in a way you can only guess which.>But we would never say that that proves there's no genetic component to human heightI'm not saying that there's not a genetic component to intelligence. Just that it's not generalizable and we don't have any idea what it is, because we don't even understand intelligence across a single race. Let alone multiple. Whereas culture offers easier and more applicable explanations for most differences without looking into very loose and false premises.Otherwise, what you're proposing is just Phrenology all over again mate.
>>41000259Where's your evidence?>it is a complex organ which even slight deviations in specific areas can vastly alter someone's perception and understanding of the world, furthermore it has been demonstrated that intelligence is largely heritable .The vast majority of intelligence falls under standard deviations. When someone has an IQ of say 115, it means they fall one single standard deviation above the mean. Deviations fall under the very complexity of differences that arise in brain structure, but they are not really heritable simply because the fragile complexity of them makes them unlikely to be reproduced, like a series of freckles or spots that are too specific to the individual. And even if they were, it wouldn't really be measurable anyway because it would change the standard of deviation again putting us back on square one.>Nothing else you said is worth engaging with, its just hostile, mental slopNothing you've said is supported by any of scientific consensus. Just stormfaggers and the usual alt-right slop.>and some groups have more of an aptitude for complex systems and problems than others, this is just self evidentComplex to someone obsessed with ideas about Aryans and ubermensch, not to anyone who has actually studied biology and the development of life.>cobbled together with the aim of eroding white identityAnd why do you refuse to take responsibility for anything people in the past have thought? It always seems warped and mentally deficient to jump this bizarre assumption that facing reality as-is with any scholasticism or objectivity is 'Anti-white hatred', as if history has a bias or is some maternal figure you hate lecturing you with a persona bias.
>>41000303This is just obfuscation. We know what intelligence is. We know how it varies across races. We have a very robust statistical construct for it. Everything in the world operates as if the differences in these socially-important outcomes are genetic in origin. Nothing in the world operates as if they weren't. >>41000348If you understand bell curves, you may also understand the importance of outliers -- regarding the question of intelligence, that is to say the outsized importance of geniuses and the mentally disabled, which we usually arbitrarily peg at 2 or 3 sd in either direction.Do you understand what the implications are for a society if you shift the median for intelligence say, 0.7 - 1.1 sd downwards in terms of the number of +3sd individuals and -3sd individuals that society will produce? (per the old society's median, obviously)
>>41000392>Everything in the world operates as if the differences in these socially-important outcomes are genetic in origin. Nothing in the world operates as if they weren't. Except we don't. Explain how the brain of easterners produces the writing systems, with languages that are Semasiographic and produce rather complex speech and thought patterns to put into translation and what specific genes and brain development leads to it. Do you know what genes lead to a degree of neural plasticity in the cognitive demands of language acquisition?Do you know what the NOVA1 gene variant is, the one unique to humans that regulates synaptic development in the brain's language circuits? Or the role of the FOXP2 transcription factor in the ontogeny of speech and language? What about linguistics and the concept of neuroplasticity, where the fusiform gyrus physically rewires itself to recognize characters, a process dictated by culture, not genetics?Surely you can tell us the specific genetics of the Broca's area, Wernicke's area, and the angular gyrus that would lead to such a specific, culturally-bound outcome. You can't, because your premise is false. The world operates exactly as if these outcomes aren't primarily genetic; it demonstrates that the human brain is a universal, adaptable organ shaped by culture and environment. The only thing your argument proves is a profound ignorance of modern genetics, neuroscience, and linguistics.Otherwise everything you're saying is obfuscation. You don't understand shit.Why don't you take an actual 8th grade biology class sometime, instead of whatever horseshit you call education.>Do you understand what the implications are for a society if you shift the median for intelligence say, 0.7 - 1.1 sd downwards in terms of the number of +3sd individuals and -3sd individuals that society will produce?Except there's no fucking evidence that this is true across any interntional racial category scientifically.
I hope we can make an example out of Charlie, and do this again to other figures. :)