How can I fulfill my intense AGP desire to be feminine without adopting a female social role?I like being a man in a social sense, but I want to embody feminine beauty.
>>41001539Be a tomboy.
>>41003191But men can't be tomboys.
>>41001539god I wish I was a cute meido for a kind of but stern master
>>41004534Sometimes I fantasize about a world where AI and robots take over and treat humans like pets, and one turns me into her bio-maid.
>>41004548that's cute, I wouldn't mind being dommed by an AI
>>41001539By just being yourself??? Don't let anyone convince you you cannot look feminine and act masculine at the same time. These barriers are all superficial, nothing matters in the end.
>>41004580I've repressed my feminine desires for decades, I'm terrified of the social implications of acting out on them after I've built up such a false masculine persona.
>>41001539HRT femboy life OP you just take hormones and look like a girl but do some level of "oh i still identify as male haha" and are like a sort of tomboyish boygirl thing that looks like a girl
>>41004607hmm, tempting, but a little radical
>>41004598You'll be ostracized to a degree depending on your environment but unless you're a valued male in society (read: useful to them somehow) then you have almost nothing to lose that can't be gained elsewhere for little to no effort.
>>41006466I could just come out, there's like an 80% chance they'll accept me, but I would have to explain AGP, and why its not a fetish.
>>41001539wasted like 10 years trying to figure out how to do this lmaojust transition
>>41007148My feelings haven't progressed far enough to justify that, I don't know if they ever will.
sometimes i see cute female fashion stuff and be like why am i not allowed to wear this reeeeit hits even harder when you see ugly women being fem it's like if the idea was that men look worse then how does this gross woman get to be like this but not us hrt manmode or whatever doesn't work either because it doesn't give you permission to present certain way in public it could be supplementary but it doesn't fix it
>>41001539Get your shit together and save up for FFS. No voice training and most importantly get on HRT.At least if you've failed, you'd at least know that you've tried.
>>41008311>sometimes i see cute female fashion stuff and be like why am i not allowed to wear this reeeeSomewhat relatable, I used to reject this idea immediately because it sounds gigawoke, but "gender abolition" doesn't sound so bad.>>41008608>No voice trainingWhy not?>most importantly get on HRTI'm British, so that's difficult (I hate the government).
What is the female social role?
>>41009682Other people viewing you as a woman, taking on a female name, IE social transition.
>>41001539Just crossdress and masturbate in your houshold.
>>41010345I'd rather integrate it into my overall person.Being secretive risks exposure and purging.
>>41007138sometimes i wonder if people with this mindset are just so misogynistic that they would rather identify as perverted men than just admit they want to become women
>>41009677nah it's more about my right as a sensitive agp cd to feminine things just in an abstract kinda way, gender abolition sounds like gnc shit
>>41009694>viewing you as a woman?
>>41011782For me it's because I know I'm not mentally the same as a woman. There are a lot of things women are just mentally not capable of. A lot of it in terms of behavior and attraction.I don't know. It's all pointless.>>41008311>>41009677Because we're all basically just fucking objects. You look a certain way, and that's supposed to write your entire personality. There's no such thing as consent.
>>41011782I don't know if I want to be a woman.I have a masculine personality, but a strong desire to be feminine in form.
>>41009677Why shouldn't you undergoing voice training. Since your goal is to not adopting any female social role while looking fem. The only thing that you can present out in the public that would gives others the idea that you're still a male is through your male voice. So even if you do wish to go on voice training, try to aim for something like a twinkish sound instead.
>>41004548ever heard of hdg
>>41012003wuthow you look is actually the result of will
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>>41001539thats what boyfriends are for silly
>>41014367She's cute, I kind of wish I was her.>>41016720I'm not androphilic.>>41014170The only hdg I know is helldivers general on /vg/.>>41013966Doesn't voice training give you the ability to do both a masculine and a feminine voice?
>>41001539>embody feminine beauty.unless you were born with natural androgyny you will never achieve that completely.
>>41017913I have noticable gynecomastia (the real kind), and semi-gynoid fat distribution. I won't say I'm unmasculine though.
>>41017913This image has convinced me that human beauty is a very scarce thing, and should be democratized via technology.I want to be a passoid bishounen.
>>41001539Just accept that all trannies are in some way agp and you are a tranny. Being a tranny doesn't mean you have to become girly girl, you can still be a tomboyish futch/butch individual. I plan on becoming the most grungy bitch possible so my creepy make tendencies aren't jarring
Just crossdress at home and get fucked its what you want
just say fuck it and keep doing feminine things like a regular woman
>>41020452is crossdressing at home ever enough
>>41001539become a male tomboy
>>41001539start a band
>>41021834You mean a tomgirl?
