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The MAGA retards are already blaming a trans Utah student for no reason.

The time is coming when our identity will be made illegal

Wake up
MAGA wanted to destroy us from day 1

We are enemy numero UNO to these rednecks
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>>41004842
now, let's be fair. many of them are hillbillies. some are even swamp yankees
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She made one edgy joke and now is going to be thrown in a male prison to be raped
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>>41004842
Goood morning saaaar
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>>41004858
Rednecks can live anywhere
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>>41004862
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>>41004862
>>41004842
>says they’re being blamed for no reason
>posts reason
huh
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Every single time
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>>41004872
technically, in that farm land can be anywhere. but "redneck" specifically connotes that you are a day laborer in the fields and therefore get sunburn on your neck. hillbillies e.g. are frequently unemployed toluene addicts
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>>41004891
THAT IS TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT AND ITS A JOKE

EVERYONE MAKES JOKES ABOUT STUFF THEY WOULD NEVER DO

Dumbass
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>>41004904
Yes but it isnt “no reason”
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>>41004918
no VALID reason. Happy now MAGAtard????
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how you gunna ban them from the millitary when they're that accurate?
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>>41004945
A trans person did not fucking do it
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>>41004938
The only people who would be offended about being called MAGA are people who aren’t MAGA (me)
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>>41004862
"She"
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>>41004842
Stop lying, you're the repugnigger who's been spamming this pic for a whole day, but it's being deleted again and again. Now you're just falseflaggot who pretends to be totally not a /pol/yp to post it. Concern trolls are fucking annoying.
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>>41004962
You are an obvious sympathizer so just snap out of it
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>>41004964
true i believe the poster uses neuter pronouns
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>>41004972
No it's all over twitter and I'm defending this person because she is not proven guilty of anything. Grow up.
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>>41004842
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>>41004977
I voted for Hillary
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>>41004984
Fuck this disinformation bullshit

>>41004985
Suuure you did
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>>41004983
Tooootally, /pol/nigger. Kys.
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>>41004962
if you voted for trump, you're part of maga. just because you're intellectually dishonest does not mean your actions were valiant.

if you voted trump, you're maga. you got swept up in the social trend and now that the ride is getting scary and you feel endangered does not mean you can just get off the ride.

you got maga republicans afraid to make a post about charlie on facebook for fear of backlash from opposition because they don't want to be publically outted for the deplorables they are.

it's like you tried flushing your menstrual pad down the toilet, clogged it, and now you wanna play innocent like i didn't do that when all evidence points to the contrary.
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>>41004984
>on ammo
So the bullets were engraved too? This is so incredible, who trained this person.
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>>41005001
Fuck off troll
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>>41005009
I voted for Hillary and haven’t voted since
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OUR COUNTRY IS FUCKING FUCKED
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>>41005026
Calm down sweaty
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>>41004842
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>>41005084
Fuck off pisslord
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>>41005020
>havent voted since
So you let Trump win?
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>>41005105
He did because he's a stupid fucking traitor. No one gives a fuck about trans people's rights anymore. It's all just sucking maga dongs
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>>41005105
No because my state doesn’t matter in the general election (Massachusetts
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>>41005087
>t. scared faggot
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>>41005121
Calling people that word here proves you are a low IQ maga trash fire
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>>41005167
Dunpsterfire is the term you're thinking of
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>>41005167
what's the 1st amendment to the Constitution of the country which harbors the servers of this website?
welcome to the asylums FAGGOT
you said we hunted you.
the hunt has begun.
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>>41004862
LMAO based
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>>41004996
>Fuck this disinformation bullshit
You'll have to let the DOJ know that the evidence is fake
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>>41005182
why do you talk like this lol
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>>41005188
Why
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>>41004862
Good.
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>>41005331
Pig
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>>41005331
why do americans love prison rape so much?
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>>41005404
plausible deniability for their homoeroticism.
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>>41005182
>Goes to faggot board on faggot website
>Calls the fags faggots
Why are you on the faggot board on the faggot website calling the fags faggots faggot
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>>41004842
Hope he gets raped to death by nigger dick
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>>41005452
I figured I'd use the word a few more times before it goes back to meaning a meatball or a bundle of sticks or a cigarette due to the other meanings go out of existence.
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>>41005477
Freak
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>>41005646
troons will get genocided either by trump or by incel shooters empowered by charlie's death
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>>41005428
but american cis women love prison rape too. it has to be deeper than that
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>>41005661
being a faggot is genocide of the self.
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WHY DOES THIS FREAKING BOARD HATE TRANS PEOPLE
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>>41005764
go back to bluesky freak
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>>41004842
>our identity
this isn't actually a thing for you tards. thinking you're female when your body is male isn't your identity. your body is male therefore you are male and your identity is male
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>>41005764
tourists, xitter, and we hate ourselves
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>>41005490
>Implying you arent a fag
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That sucks bro. Shame the media used you as a spark point to get everyone fighting and ignoring that everyone is being robbed.

Don't suppose that was the point? Why all the otherwise uncaring corpos put you on blast.
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>>41004842
you're mentally ill. maga doesn't want you to persist in your delusions. they are trying to help you. it is transgender ideology and the people that push it that are trying to destroy you
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>>41004862
>male prison to be raped
maybe 'she' should stop dressing up as a woman then
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>>41005799
>implying you aren't a meatball
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>>41005851
>if you dress as a woman you deserve to be raped
this is your brain on repping
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>>41005835
>you're mentally ill. We just want you to know that your only value (according to us) is breeding, and because of that we will force you through "treatments" (that we perfectly know dont work) just to save that value, youre mentally ill for valuing your stress and sanity too much to protect that value
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>>41006139
>save that value
you killed a dad.
any thought of "saving" that was attempted has been discarded.
we are wiling to accept that your value was a product of our empathy and never actually existed.
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>>41005764
This website suxx
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>>41004862
Looks like this idiot deserved it. Threatening people isn't "an edgy joke".
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>>41006481
Ya it is Nazi
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>>41005764
It's full of people that hate themselves!
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>>41006567
Why

It's so sick Jesus
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>>41006793
if you were me, you'd hate me too
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>>41006805
You sound amazing. Iove you. I'll be ur friend.
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>>41006828
you enjoy raping children too?
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>>41006842
Is this a god damn joke
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>>41006828
>you have to love yourself otherwise you deserve to be hated!
capitalism was a mistake
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>>41006887
that a deal-breaker?
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>>41006935
STOP TROLLING ME NAZI YOU SUC

TRANS POWER

SUCKK MY DICK BIGOT
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>>41006984
have fun in the asylums faggot.
you won't be missed.
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>>41005764
It got taken over by chuds gradually over the past 5 years
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>>41006997
Fuck you loaer
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>>41007182
kinda like how faggots used to be only mostly child rapists but then the LGBTQ+++ took over.
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>>41007182
Ban th frickin Nazis

I used to browse here in 2017 I can't fucking BELIEVE this community was ruined

Fuck the haters

This is not okay
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>>41007203
do you think you are mentally stable?
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>>41007208
THATS A FAKE MYTH BASED ON AT MOST 1-3 CASES NATIONWIDE

FUCKING SHUT YOUR LYING FACE

You people deserve pain

You have erased a once happy and growing community

Remember 2015

We were so proud and happy and free

You trump Nazis stole our dreams
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>>41007214
I'm having a meltdown because of the Kirk thing

I am actually sad because I don't like seeing anyone die

But also now there's a fucking trans genocide and people are going to call us all fucking killrers and come at us

Fuck this stupid shitty culture
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>>41007219
>erased
not yet
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>>41007226
We will not back down
We will not forget
Or forgive

The trans movement is under attack because society is still scared of human rights

You want to force every biological male to be a workhorse slave

Well automation is coming and I'm proud to be on HRT

Fuck capitalism
Fuck 4fhan

Fuck you
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>>41007225
the definition of rape is the attacking of genitals.
the mentally ill can not give informed consent.
children can not give informed consent.
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>>41007240
Sounds like a threat. Faggot.
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>>41007240
don't shoot me bro
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>>41004842
>>41004872
The expectation here is the most precise, most accurate slurs here. We need to set a good example for the noobs. And of course the feds are visiting these threads as well.

>>41004858
>>41004899
Right: Review:

Hillbillies: Live in the hills, eg Appalachia coal miners Hatfields and McCoys.
Rednecks: Mostly rural white outdoor laborers, usually in the south, because you need the sunburn and you aren't getting that much in Alberta.
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>>41007253
It's just honestly I'm fed the hell up with this news.dh cycle

Every new atrocities give more ammo to anti trans retarded hate and attacks against my community

And you want me to hate myself and meme about it

Just stfu nazi
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>>41007271
going against your biological form is self-hate.
you encourage self-harm.
you encourage children to self-harm.
I don't want you to hate yourself.
I want you to hate the part of you that hates yourself.
and the people who affirm it.
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>>41007261
Don't tell me what to do fuckhead

>>41007312
You are insanely retarded and shitty
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>>41007425
i don't expect logical argument of any kind from the mentally unwell.
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>>41007312
i am happier after my surgeries and both of them had added health benefits so i don't think youre right
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>>41007455
>I'm happier and healthier after disfiguring my form.
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>>41007446
you aren't making a "logical argument." you just said "going against your biological form is self-hate" and a bunch of other nonsense premised on that. no one here agrees with your fundamental axiom
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>>41007473
Stop judging people you stupid Nazi

Get off this board
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>>41007489
I have an idea that fundamentally destroys your ideology and is objectively true.
>that's not an argument.
>stop judging
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>>41007473
ok
>your dick gets erectile dysfunction with age
>you and the wife get depressed about it
>find some cure for it
>likely something unnatural like a medication (oh the horror)
>you feel better
Not rocket science.
Or
>grow tits/gynecomastia
>wtf this is weird, im a man, i shouldnt have tits
>get rid of tits
>feel better
Or, dear anon. Do you have any advice on alternatives to cure this ailment we have of hating our sexually dimorphic characteristics and a deep desire to change them? A practical solution/methodology of doing such? Or are they all generic "muh live yourself" bad faith arguments.
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>>41007516
FUCK OFF DUDE
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>>41004862
>>41004904
:)
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>>41007516
oh yes, very trolling, you are so brilliant, every reply is another nail in my coffin. but a mantra is only useful to one who forgets the truth it contains. how many more times do you think you'll have to say "transition is self-mutilation" before you actually believe it?
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>>41007446
Sure then. Let us lock up all the transsexuals. SWAT them. Send them to asylums. Make their lives a living hell.
But shoot, its not trannies who started this lgburgerq nonsense, its them cocksuckers? Then let us lock up all the gays. SWAT them. Send them to asylums. Make their lives a living hell.
Wait, but its lefties promoting this degeneracy in the first place! Then, lets cage all lefties. SWAT them...
Wait, but right wingers still support guns and hate epstein! And that sounds really left wing, don't you think? Then lets cage all republicans. SWAT them. Send them to asylums. Make their lives a living hell.
Why? Well think about for a second, who "us" is. Who is the entity "us" we are granting authoritarian power to. Because it sure isn't you and me. No, its or govt. And who buys our govt? Mossad and Israel. Authoritarian regimes are already hell on Earth. Fuck the North Korean commies, right? Well guess what. Let power escalate for a government body as such, any government body, and this is the end result.
Also, I am, in fact, an adult capable of using logic and reasoning and not a drooling spastic downie as you might imagine me to be. Disingenuous grifter.
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>>41007604
Trannies aren't human lool
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>>41007638
Yes they are
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>>41007604
>slippery slope
>>41007534
strawman
>>41007583
does an objective truth need mantra'd to remain a truth?
>>41007446
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we need more luigis
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yesterday they were clutching pearls
now they want all trans people to be raped to death
interesting
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>>41007752
This

TRANS POWER
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>>41007739
in fact it does. even if i granted your correspondentist position there still must be a statement to conform to the supposed naïve reality of objectivity. the mantra is the truth. so why do you think you're so desperate to convince yourself that transition is self-mutilation?
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>>41007534
The nords proved hormone therapy consistent with your biological sex not only cures gender and sexual dysphoria but also homosexuality.
your community denies these findings because it relies on mental illness to exist.
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>>41007834
oh they did did they? cool
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>>41007818
convince me that destroying a function of your form is not self-mutilation.
saying things do not make them real.
labels do not make reality.
gravity does not change based on what you call it.
a fertile animal making itself infertile is a conscious destruction of a function of its form.
the destruction of your function is harm.
if you choose to destroy a function of your body that is self harm.
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>>41007834
source
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>>41007890
https://genderreport.ca/the-swedish-u-turn-on-gender-transitioning/
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Why does the transbian shitter mod let /pol/cuck retards run rampant? Most of them are reppers posting in bad faith and it borders on spam most of the time.
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>>41007944
I'm on-topic
This is not a support group echo chamber.
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>>41007944
This
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>>41007923
that doesn't prove anything about your claim... why do you think this works on anyone?
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>>41007881
>convince me that destroying a function of your form is not self-mutilation.
this is nonsense
aristotelianism isn't real and this is no more scientific than some hindoo babbling about how i'm ruining my chakras or whatever
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>>41007944
at least they're nuking some k*rk threads
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>>41007992
Yeah, like one, while the other 5 stay up. Useless fucking cunt.
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Charlie Kirk was a pooner. The shooter figured this out through schizo autist tier gait analysis and rumor mill stuff and figured he was trying to groom and deradicalize the youth. The feds misunderstood the stuff on the bullets, which were all things like "cute and valid", ie sarcasm. The point of shooting Kirk in the neck is that's where the Adam's apple is (or, rather, isn't). Source: my uncle works for the Kabul logistical Burger King.
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>>41007881
>your form
>labels do not make reality
form is a label, self is a label, you're building on nothing here
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>>41007982
how is that nonsense?
if you remove a function of your form that is self harm.
I'm not even arguing meta-physically.
One of the few functions of a human is the ability to reproduce, if you remove that consciously, from fertile to infertile, or choose not to use the function, then you are denying that human function.
removing it completely destroys the human form.
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>>41008054
there are no forms
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>>41008034
you need definitions to understand what I'm talking about?
can you explain the form of a hammer?
can you describe the function of a hammer?
the objective form and function of a human includes the ability to reproduce.
you deny that for hedonism.
a mental illness.
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>>41008066
>i deny the existence of reality
>>41007446
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>>41008066
don't scare them sis
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>>41008070
there are no forms, forms don't exist, or at least nobody has demonstrated these supernatural things to exist, which for me is good enough to say nah I don't believe in them
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>>41008082
bring me a form, present me a form
>looks inside, it's arbitrary groupings created by people socially
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>>41008087
>>41008094
>the form of a hammer only exist because I call them hammers
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>>41008107
the form of a hammer doesn't exist at all
the grouping "hammer" is a construct
the atoms in the hammer don't know we consider them part of the hammer
it's chaos out there
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>>41008107
oh jeez he's a literal platonist. yes, all words are indeed names. the concept of "hammer" doesn't exist outside our invention of the name. i'm sorry your delicate realist fee-fees can't handle this TRUTH of REALITY
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platonists an animists shaking hands over hammers having a soul
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>>41008121
>>41008131
how does google know what I'm looking for?
would calling this object a duck change its function?
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>>41008152
>how does google know what I'm looking for?
language, pattern recognition
>function
it does not have an objective function, it has a subjective function, that can change, you can use it as a weapon, you can shove it up your ass, you can pray to it, you can do a lot of things
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>>41008167
praying to a hammer is lgbtq+
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>please use the hammer to build us homes
>NO we will pray to the hammer
this is you.
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currently hitting the ground with a hammer to make a building appear like in a video game
this would not be possible if hammers did not have souls
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>>41008167
but you are objectively male or female.
and social norms are an evolutionary trait.
and being a fetish exhibitionist is mental illness.
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>>41008152
or, how do i even know what you mean by "hammer," if hammers don't have a "form," would be a better question. but this is exactly what plato couldn't understand about socrates. meaning does not inhere on a single side, formally or accidentally, one to the exclusion of the other, but rather consists in politics, pedagogy, and language themselves, as collective and public activities. there is no private language. the forms would have no meaning outside of their use in this process, what we are doing right now: generating meaning. language is prior to reason, not the other way around. artists invented language, for fun, and grammarians came later, to try to figure out why, and invented the lie of the primacy of logic, to soothe themselves for the time they wasted on the most dreadful of all riddles
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>>41008235
form is not soul
function is not soul
I'm not even speaking of the divine spark
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>>41008251
nobody is objectively part of any category, categories don't exist objectively, they are social creations, base reality is not sorted, there are no lines on the map we don't put there
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>>41008263
it's a mystical supernatural presence that we can't observe, it's not material, you can't show me it, it's not there
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Another thread hijacked by a christkike larper.
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>>41008254
>language is prior to reason
how do monkeys mate without having a name for their dick?
>>41008274
horses are objectively a different category from fish in form and function.
>>41008286
right. or I don't understand it. that's why I'm not speaking of it.
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>>41008306
>horses are objectively a different category from fish in form and function.
no they aren't
you don't seem to even know why you think this, you can't go one level down even

>>41008306
>that's why I'm not speaking of it
yes you are, that's what forms are, a thing that supposedly exists outside of nature, above nature if you will, supernatural even
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>>41008316
form is their physical nature.
the physical nature of a fish includes the function of breathing water which the horse lacks.
form is that which can be observed.
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>>41008339
>form is their physical nature.
means nothing, why don't you at least try to define what you think you mean
nature is just another way of saying form
>the physical nature of a fish includes the function of breathing water
no it doesn't, because "physical nature" is not a thing
you do not observe form, you attempt to deduce it, but your logic is bad
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>>41008355
physical nature
form
object
thing
that what I see, touch, feel, hear, taste
reality
not meta-physical
physical
real
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>>41008355
>you do not observe form, you attempt to deduce it
watch a male monkey fuck a female monkey and a baby pop out in ~9 months
a function of their form.
reproduction.
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>>41008372
what do you think happens when you see a horse? do you think you sense a form?

>>41008385
you're repeating an assertion, not making an argument, you can't even go one level down, do a phil 101 class please
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>>41004842
>The time is coming when our identity will be made illegal

Yes, because too many of you faggots have some sick self-fulfilling prophecy that all the "nazis" are out to get you, so you must kill them all, and at the same time think everyone, including Kirk was a Nazi. Look in a mirror, you will find the only people with true fascist ideas.

Many of you are on too many meds and just fucking psychos because of that.
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>>41008399
lmao no
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>>41008131
I'm angry that this board is the first to correctly identify me.
>>41008395
yes, I see a horse.
I use my sense of sight to observe the reality of the form of a horse.
I'm functioning on the "level" of reality.
Moving to any other "level" assertion.
but feel free to school me.
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>>41008399
real
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>>41008426
>I use my sense of sight to observe the reality of the form of a horse.
oh my god even kant gets this right, read up on the argument from geometry or something or watch this slop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQnG0fyEr_w
photons enter your eyes and your brain lights up and fires neurons associated with your subjective idea of a horse based on the pattern, that's it also happens when you see an image of a horse, you do not observe a form, your brain just whirrs differently depending on the arrangement of photons that hit your eye
>I'm functioning on the "level" of reality.
>Moving to any other "level" assertion.
do you actually believe you're right at the base level of argumentation? that everything you've said you've logically proved?
where are these forms stored?
why are they necessary?
are there infinite forms?
does anything have the same form as something else?
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>>41007243
It always surprises me how retarded you subhumanoids are lol
>the mentally ill can not give informed consent.
why not, little retard? Why would that be? Explain this to me. What is it about someone with depression or schizophrenia that makes them categorically incapable of informed consent?
You could surely argue that being cognitively impaired prevents informed consent, as at minimum for consenting you need enough brainpower to understand an agreement, but being mentally ill does make someone cognitively impaired. So why should "the mentally ill" be deemed categorically incapable of informed consent unconditionally?
>>41007312
>going against your biological form is self-hate.
why would that be, my little retard? The biological form is a result of random chance, an accident of genetics. Why would anyone be under any obligation to accept it, and why would rejecting it be self hate?
But furthermore, let's presume you are correct. So what? You have freedom to hate yourself LOL
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>>41008486
>photons enter your eyes and your brain lights up and fires neurons associated with your subjective idea of a horse based on the pattern, that's it also happens when you see an image of a horse, you do not observe a form, your brain just whirrs differently depending on the arrangement of photons that hit your eye.
That's how I sense the form of a horse.
>where are these forms stored?
in reality.
>why are they necessary?
divine spark argument? or are you talking about the sensing of these forms?
>are there infinite forms?
infinite forms would require forms to exist where forms already exist so no.
>does anything have the same form as something else?
humans have a human form but John is only John.
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>>41008546
>That's how I sense the form of a horse.
another assertion, I'll discard it again until you present an argument
>in reality.
where
>divine spark argument? or are you talking about the sensing of these forms?
why does there need to be these forms
>infinite forms would require forms to exist where forms already exist so no.
explain, and explain why there aren't infinite forms, are there not infinite numbers, surely every number has a form, and I can conceive of infinite fictional animals
what happens if we start running out of forms? will some lifeform in the future have to double up with a neighbour?
>humans have a human form but John is only John.
prove to me humans have a form, because I can just rephrase this as categories and it doesn't require the existence of forms
we make the group humans, we make the group John, simple, no spooks required
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>>41008505
if you reject what you are that is self hate.
you have "freedom" to hate yourself yes but rejecting your form is mental illness.
I can reject my right arm and cut it off and when people ask me what happened I can say I cut it off voluntarily and they will all view me as mentally ill for rejecting a part of what makes me human.
if you don't respect the human form people fear you because that is their form.
rejecting your human form logically creates fear in others that you will also reject their human form.
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>>41004862
death from anal hemorrhaging
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>>41008609
pseudo science there are no forms
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>>41008609
cutting off your arm doesn't generally get you removed from the category of human, having arms isn't necessary to be human, you are very stupid
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>>41008066
Ok Nazi
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>>41008593
you described my declaration of sight to your best ability.
beyond consensus that what you described is the proof of the function of the form of sight.
reality of a horse is usually a field of grass.
there is no need they just are.
forms are not meta-physical, numbers are.
you name them you don't make them.
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>>41008619
>reality doesn't exist
>>41008635
not having arms restricts the full function of the human form.
I didn't argue any of your other points.
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>>41008682
>beyond consensus that what you described is the proof of the function of the form of sight.
we're talking about the form of a horse, which you said you could sense by seeing it, you haven't evidenced that, you simply agreed with my pasquinade of how sight works, nowhere did a form present itself
>reality of a horse is usually a field of grass.
what do you think reality means? environment?
>forms are not meta-physical, numbers are.
show me the forms
>you name them you don't make them.
do you think we make horses?
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>>41008054
>>41008070
my fucking sides a natural teleology retard KEK
>the objective form and function of a human includes the ability to reproduce.
A factual observation, congratulations retard, in my prejudice against morons I did not believe one could correctly state facts.
>you deny that for hedonism. a mental illness.
You think too highly of yourself for someone that fell straight into the single most classic and widely known problem of natural teleology, a problem that was already pointed out by David Hume 300 years ago my lobotomite. Let me break it down for you, so that even a lowly being such as yourself may understand:
Your argument is of the form "Since [thing] is [X], it ought to be [X]". In this case "Since human beings have as function reproduction, they should reproduce" and further: "if they do not reproduce, they are being human wrong." The obvious problem, as pointed out by Hume, is that the normative claim "[thing] ought to be [X]" does not follow logically from the descriptive claim "thing is [X]". It is not a logical conclusion of " The form of the human has the function of reproduction" that "The human has the obligation to reproduce". If it was, likewise we could write "The form of the human has the capability of digesting shit, therefore the human has the obligation of eating shit. Non shit eaters are mentally ill"
This explanation of the is/ought fallacy evades the capability of the average christcuck, but keep trying! with luck you will understand it.
>>41008609
>if you reject what you are that is self hate.
Your reasoning is built upon this, which you hold as a postulate, what a shame that it is simply FALSE lol. First because you are under no obligation to accept what you are, and second because self HATE requires an emotion, namely, hatred towards yourself. Someone that rejects their form but feels no such hate simply can not be said to be self hating.
>but rejecting your form is mental illness.
see above
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how many forms are there if there's only a finite number lmao
this is four humours shit
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>>41008731
>A factual observation
no it isn't, it's baseless supposition of a mystical inhabitant of everything we categorise
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>>41008716
>nowhere did a form present itself
within sight the form is presented.
>reality
everything.
the monad.
>show me
I'm not around you otherwise I'd hand you a hammer.
>do you think we make horses?
I took that as your assertion.
>we make the group humans, we make the group John
we name the groups, we don't make them.
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>>41008770
ok I'll argue like you do maybe you'll see the issue
>souls are real, you can literally see them, when you look at a horse you see a horse, souls proven!!!!!
>everything
but not everything for horses?
>I'm not around you otherwise I'd hand you a hammer
yeah I'd hand it back and say see, the soul of a hammer, being about to see something means its soul exists, right?
>I took that as your assertion.
ok I'll ask again, try to answer this time, do you think we make horses?
>we name the groups, we don't make them.
no, we make the groups, the groupings don't exist outside us creating them, and we can create an infinite variety of groupings, there are no lines on the map of reality, we pencil them in
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>>41008609
>you have "freedom" to hate yourself
If I have freedom to hate myself and trooning is self hate then I have the freedom to troon. Nice!
>I can reject my right arm and cut it off and when people ask me what happened I can say I cut it off voluntarily and they will all view me as mentally ill
people will view you as mentally ill purely because cutting your arms off is unusual in our culture. Hilariously, there are other cultures were self flagellation is actually an expected part of religious rituals, and the priests that perform it are not perceived as mentally ill by their people. For all your insistence on "forms" it's funny you are going back to "how the people feel about it" rather than some objective fact of existence.
But I will gladly bite this bullet: you should have the full freedom to cut your arm off and doing so does not by itself qualify as "mental illness" neither it implies your incapability of making decisions regardless of how weirded out by it people are.
>rejecting your human form logically creates fear in others that you will also reject their human form.
a fair claim, I am not going to stealthy troon other people while they sleep howeverbleit
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>>41008846
it's self harm when people tattoo themselves because it scares me!
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>>41008731
>normative claim
it's an evolutionary claim.
your existence depends on reproduction specifically.
"eating shit" destroys your form so it is bad.
reproduction reproduces your form so it is good.
if you don't reproduce, your form stops existing.
you can do great in the world, but your form is gone.
weather that's at the human level or the personal level, it's gone.
rejection of your form is not logical because you only exist in that form and can not exist outside of it.
rejecting your form fits the clinical definition of self-harm, self-hate is what others see.
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>>41008880
you're really stupid you can't even do is/ought fucking hell
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>>41004842
I'm not going to go after our own countrymen for you, fed. Low effort fedpost.
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>>41004862
Maybe don't make these kinds of jokes, its very easy.
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>>41008908
cool, censorship!
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>>41008914
Free speech has never included calls to violence.
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>>41005404
WASP morality say the poors must be punished for their sinful ways through cleansing sodomy
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>>41008826
the names of things being arbitrary doesn't mean that reality is arbitrary.
no we do not make horses as humans.
horses can be described in many different arbitrary ways but that does not effect their existence in reality.
Groups of like-forms exist in reality.
Oceans and rivers drawn incorrectly on a map does not change how the rivers flow or where the oceans exist.
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>>41008306
>how do monkeys mate without having a name for their dick?
this is one of the dumbest ways you could've possibly responded. if you're genuinely insinuating that macaque mating behavior requires the use of reason you're more fried than the chicken lafontoya feeds her three kids while she studies nursing online at bryant and stratton
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>>41008846
>I have the freedom to troon
and placed in the arbitrarily named category of mentally ill which represents humans who self-harm and attempt to normalize self-harm and become violently angry when people fear them for self-harming.
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>>41008938
groups don't exist in base reality outside our construction of them, you assert they do but you don't demonstrate it, or even try to, you seem to be philosolet so I wont expect you to suddenly present anything new now after not being about to for so long
the ocean is not separate from the land objectively, the particles do not care for the distinction, we look and we draw a line where our brains suggest and say I will call this bit sea and this bit sand, the wind does not hear
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>>41008889
is/ought is silly.
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>>41009028
you're silly :)
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>>41008949
if it feels good then it is logical to keep doing it.
if the scent of a female macaque's pussy makes the male macaque hard then it's logical to stick it in her.
if having many baby macaques makes you safer then it is logical to make more macaques.
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>>41008997
>groups don't exist in base reality outside our construction of them
sure they do we just named them.
a pride of lions.
a herd of bison.
groups capable of reproduction.
naming them didn't create them.
>the ocean is not separate from the land objectively
it's a function of my form to tell the difference.
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>>41009063
me logically eating random wild berries because they're so colourful
me logically injecting infinite heroin because it feels nice
me logically stealing things because I don't like paying
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>>41004862
the picture isn't even the same person, it's a totally different account
"omar" is a brown theymab
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>>41009109
and the result ("God's will") will be bad for your form.
but you don't do those things.
because if you do the result ("God's will") will be aids.
and you know this because aids killed a bunch of people who did them.
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>>41009105
naming a group distinguishes it from the rest of reality for us, the groupings aren't there before we do that, the stuff is there, it's not sorted or grouped, it's like a colour spectrum existing in a time before life, it's just a continuum, there's no yellow, there's no chartreuse, there's no ultramarine, those are categories we create
>it's a function of my form to tell the difference.
no it's a thing your brain can do to create categories and group the things separately based on an evolved instruction set, and we do it subjectively
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>>41009141
why did those people do it, was it logical for them?
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>>41009063
>if it feels good then it is logical to keep doing it
lol. lmao, even. you haven't even read plato (or you're a very good ironist). all i had to do was say "taking estrogen feels good"?
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>>41009202
breeding groups don't need to be named to exist.
unique and uniform geometries don't need to be named to interact in specific ways that are like.
drink a cup of water and a cup of dirt and tel me there is no difference.
>>41009220
informed consent was not given I assume.
or mental illness.
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>>41009318
but it harms a function of your form.
a macaque wouldn't keep doing something that harmed its form unless it was unaware.
but you know it does.
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>>41009323
>breeding groups don't need to be named to exist.
the stuff exists, the groupings do not objectively exist
you can't seem to distinguish in your mind that when we haven't named or grouped something there is nothing there that gives a damn to do it, and so it isn't done, the stuff does not create a map of itself and divide it up, it's just shit bumping around, we can group it any kind of way we want, there is no correct or objective way, only subjective
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>>41009350
>but it harms a function of your form
i have no testicles. it's actually healthier for me to take estrogen than take nothing. plus, it feels good. QED, according to your "logic"
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>>41009350
>a macaque wouldn't keep doing something that harmed its form unless it was unaware.
>informed consent was not given I assume.
>or mental illness.
X wouldn't do Y! Unless it would!
Useless argument
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>>41009379
you can fuck as many dogs as you want. there will never be offspring. "dogs" is the name of a group that you are unable to breed with. that creates an objective group irrespective of name. we did not create that separation. not subjective.
>>41009381
it was not logical to do that thing that you did.
chronically high estrogen might even damage male DNA.
>>41009392
unless the prerequisite to logic, information, was lacking.
it's the only argument.
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>>41008897
Asshole
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>>41009473
>it was not logical to do that thing that you did
but it felt good. and you said
>if it feels good then it is logical to keep doing it
my only regret is that i have but two testicles to remove for my transition
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this idiot doesn't even really know what forms are, they think it's like a set of abilities that exists in material reality not essences that things of the material world fail to imitate
this is a steady state pre-modern understanding, we now know thing things change over time, animals evolve, where's the point where one animal stops being that animal with that form and starts being a new animal with a new form? how spaced out at the forms? is there a new one every hundred years? thousand? million? what's the human form? are modern humans the closest to the essence? are dolphins coming up to or have they passed the closest they'll ever be to their essence?
it's all clearly bullshit, everything's a spectrum and nothing needs to resemble some perfect example, we are capable of pattern recognition without reference to such thing, we can even create groups of things where there explicitly CANNOT be a perfect version! I forget what it's called but it's where something is part of a group if it has enough of a list of attributes, not all of them, so there can be no perfect version
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>>41009473
>that creates an objective group
no it doesn't, we can create a group based on our understanding of what counts as incompatibility, but that's something we do, universe does not care, reality is an undifferentiated soup
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>>41009491
"feels good" is not the only information being supplied. Harm can also be information applied to logic.
>>41009495
>they think it's like a set of abilities that exists in material reality
form is physical presence.
function is the set of abilities.
>we now know thing things change over time
function of form does not preclude Darwinism.
>we can create
they exist without your creation.
either an offspring is produced or it is not, and that's only one example of objective form.
>undifferentiated soup
then why can't I make puppy-humans?
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>>41009573
>form is physical presence.
you are not a platonist you are just stupid in a different way
>they exist without your creation.
other anon already demonstrated you're wrong
>then why can't I make puppy-humans?
why would you be able to, reality is undifferentiated but it's not homogenous
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>>41009573
if had any logic to use you would've made a cogent argument by now. but you keep saying nonsense like this. WHY is it bad to "harm your form" if it feels good to do so? the principle of non-contradiction is the only necessary feature of logic and you haven't used it ONCE
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>>41009573
why do you want to fuck dogs
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>>41009631
you called me that.
i demonstrated objective form
>undifferentiated but it's not homogenous
>>41009633
it is bad to harm your form because that is how bad is defined, according to form.
"feels good" is information applied to logic, not logic itself, logic is alive and ever-changing with new information.
>>41009655
that degeneracy was the most vile I could think of, I don't like dogs at all but if fit the script.
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>>41009713
>i demonstrated objective form
no you didn't
and heterogeneity does not mean there are groupings dummy
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>>41009713
>heterogeneity does not mean there are groupings
yes it does.
and that demonstrates objective form.
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>>41004842
you will be punished for your actions.

LGBT is a terrorist organization, and will be branded as such soon.

Fuck around and find out
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>>41005764
>why do sane people hate literally terrorists
hmmmm
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>>41009816
you are unbelievably thick
split a parabola into it's objective grouping you moron
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>>41009862
that's a meta-physical concept.
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>>41009918
draw it
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>>41009977
so you're both mathematically as well as philosophically uneducated, do it for real, draw a parabola on a piece of paper and show me the objective way to split it up
there is no reason to split that parabola up in any particular way, even after you've imposed axes on it
the parts I assume you think this is divided into are themselves heterogenous so you need to show me their constituent groups now, so you will either add more lines forever or concede.
if you're ever going to move past your idiocy on this you need to find a way to understand that just because your brain suggests a grouping doesn't mean it's there objectively
there are multiple ways of saying where a mountain ends
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>>41010061
I'm not speaking of meta-physical concepts.
f(x)={x2−x2if x≥0if x<0
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>>41010122
reread
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>>41004842
>They are persecuting us!
>For no reason at all
Horrible behaviour + 0 accountability brought you here, now that you are at the edge of survival you still refuse to acknowledge why this might have been the case and just keep repeating your death cult delusion dogma.
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>>41010152
shut the fuck up nigger
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>>41010144
you're trying to disprove objective form with meta-physics.
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>>41010178
draw it on some paper
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>>41010196
try to make puppy-humans.
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>>41010223
guess I'll stop whipping you now, I accept your concession
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>>41010235
you told me to draw a meta-physical infinite concept on a piece of paper.
it will take me infinity to finish.
hold on infinitely.
concession after infanitum.
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>>41005867
It's very simple:
>The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the Lord thy God.
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>>41010223
No
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>>41010643
he works at it infinitely
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TRANS POWER
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>>41010896
the power of trans is killing people for wrongthink.
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>>41011063
or just kids
because your hormones are out of whack.
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>>41005167
lmao have you been on this board before
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>>41011063
Shut up nazi snake
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>>41011337
Stfu tranzoid
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Can you all lowkey go back to /pol/ this is hard to even lurk on anymore.
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>>41011526
I wanna slap your face in a sexual scenario
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>>41011726
Im into men with big clitties. Unless you fit that criteria, don't even touch me.
t. Female
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>>41011741
I'm a man I'll make you beg me for what comes next
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>>41011956
Yummy
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>>41011956
bro no. sorry anon
>>41012210
dont even
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>>41004842
reported all troons and libtards to the fbi for their nazi hate crimes posted in 41004842
all troons have been notified about the nazi leftists committing nazi hate crimes and the guns are coming. libtards genociding libtards. troons genociding troons. leftists and wokes and minorities and democrats all that stuff are the party and the ideology of the uneducated. if you dont know whats nazi about what was posted in 41004842 then youre uneducated and a nazi that doesnt know leftist ideology and since you dont know leftist ideology you are a bad leftist, bad at their job which is to be a jobless unemployed commie leftist, bad at their job of being a leftist of not recognizing what nazism is, and failing to call out the nazism. its just that EZ to get comrades to genocide gulag other comrades. I have notified your employers to get you fired, i have notified your schools to get you kicked out, enjoy the multiple hundreds of thousands of dollars on student debt learning about pedophilia lgbtq grooming illegal images of children that is taught to children illegally in lgbtq books in schools, because the nazism posted in 41004842 gets you fired from job kicked out of school according to leftist ideology. and we have YHUGE BIGLY MANY SUCH CASES of the TOTAL amount of criminal charges stacked on each other for the AMOUNT of times this and similar nazi hate crimes leftists committed. FAFO
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>>41013535
oh and you dumbasses are getting more criminal charges in the nazi camps project 2025s because youre all inferior subhumans that will say HURR DURR HURR DURR MAGA NAZIS ARE THE REAL CANCEL CULTURE DOING CANCEL CULTURE. that just means that leftists are the ideology and the party of illegal criminal committing illegal crime that they refuse to criminally prosecute that leftists are committing illegal crimes which gets you criminal charges criminal prosecution but leftists support crime and support jailing firing kicked out for "nazis" for 'nazi hate crimes" but the illegal crimes of loving nazism bigotry that ALL leftists support means that when leftists do nazism bigotry, that means its nazism for criminal prosecution on a leftist to commit crimes and that means its MAGA NAZI CANCEL CULTURE which is ALLLLLLLL TYPES OF HURRR DURRS HURR DURRS HURR DURRS and inferior subhuman woke democrat leftist ideology party of the uneducated and disingenuous disingenuous disingenuous disingenuous disingenuous and MULTIPLE criminal charges of contempt of court
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>>41011526
does it hurt your brain femoid?
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>>41013535
>>41013565
>reported all troons and libtards to the fbi-ACK
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>>41006406
Osama bin Laden was a dad.
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>>41004862
29 MAD PEDOS UPSET THAT AM AMERICAN USED THEIR 1ST AMENDMENT CHARLIE KIRK TM FREEDOM OF SPEECH

Jaded much?
Jesus Jirk would be disappointed
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>>41015949
Shut up Nazi nitwit
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>>41004862
Just like her favorite anime porno! The trans dream!
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>>41004842
I'm pretty confident Kirk was taken out by Mossad to distract from Epstein and a lesser degree Israel.
Unfortunately Mossad has the most powerful useful idiots in the world and trannies couldn't resist making the whole thing about them by immediately celebrating.
So all in all it was a very successful psyop.
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you're all golem too so you hold blame.
your pharmaceuticals are your church.
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>owo
>fascist
nvm it was you.
from one drug to another.
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>>41004842
was it actually a tran or is that a shitpost
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>>41016897
pre-troon, discord, u r the girl, pedo.
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chuds real quiet since the newest suspect's identity dropped
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>>41016937
he was 6 months from this.
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>>41017011
he can have this pussy as a reward
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>>41017227
good
give him aids
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>>41004862
>she
They/them.



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