Yeah we're fucked.
>>41008532Stop killing children and assassinating people who disagree with you and maybe people wont hate you.Youre not the victim, youre the monster
>A senior law enforcement official with direct knowledge of the investigation cautioned that the report had not been verified by A.T.F. analysts, did not match other summaries of the evidence and might turn out to have been misread or misinterpreted.>https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/09/11/us/charlie-kirk-shooting-newswelp
>>41008726you're the monsters who divided my country. Americas future is FUCKED, and it's YOUR fault retard.
>>41008726> person does bad thing> ascribes bad thing to millions of people who have nothing to do with it> conveniently gives a moral license to pass a million laws against the millions of people that have nothing to do with itcan you at least admit you're happy about all this because it's a massive political opportunity. There's no way you could type this or tie your shoes by yourself if otherwise. Nobody sincerely believes democrats on the whole are violent or that they realistically have to answer for one crazy person; they just want an excuse to cripple the party before the midterms that were looking bleak for conservatives
>>41008726>>41008819Ah yes, surely more finger pointing will get us out of this mess. What's the saying, "An eye for an eye leads to lasting peace"?
>>41008819No…? Why can’t you have a normal discussion? People used to go to college and university to *disagree* and have a discourse. Not so much now!How about you learn to think using logic first? Temper your emotions *with* logic.At this point leftists are indistinguishable from Muslims. They scream and demand all criticism stop. They demand absolute influence. Over our children. Over school and government. No difference. And yes. They’ll even try to KILL people they don’t personally agree with. They’re against freedom of speech.ANYONE who condones or glorifies the murder of Charlie Kirk is against freedom of speech. They hate it.
Trans folk did this to themselves. They have no one but themselves to blame, just like the itty bitty Palestinians who just decided to engage a literal giant. They’re all retarded. They’re all led by literal psychopaths who don’t even care about their own. “Die for me”.
>>41008839all the media all the time claim everything Trump does is nazism. Without that, there would be no assassinations like this. Dems are peaceful? neartly all violence in the US has their seal of approval, from cartel violence to "reimagined: policiing to shit like this. Bulk of political violence was always leftist, only hidden by shoving islamism (laways left-allied) or IRA, Catalan separatist (mostly leftist) terrorism into the right wing category. In US, the big thing is lumping all white prison gang crime into race extremism. You are the unhinged retards that fuel the deaths in USA.
>>41008839>Nobody sincerely believes democrats on the whole are violentDefine violence. They’re certainly disingenuous to the point where they’ll happily ruin your career for life. You think all violence is actual bodily harm, do you?
>>41008850>At this point leftists are indistinguishable from Muslims. You're actually so fucking retarded. holy shit.
>>41008866You "people" are massive hypocrites. Did you know that?
>>41008920How? What are you going to say? That we ignored the deaths of those two democrats who got killed? We didn’t. It’s sick what happened to them too. This still happened live and in front of many.
>>41008890If right wing politicians didn't claim every day that Democrats are radical leftists who want to kill you and your baby and destroy the country, maybe Melissa Hortman and John Hoffman and their spouses wouldn't have gotten shot, or Paul Pelosi wouldn't have gotten his skull fractured. Maybe Planned Parenthoods wouldn't constantly be bombed and burnt down. You all have nothing but apologetics whenever stuff like that happensRight wingers are nothing but violent and have violent rhetoric. Fuck off.
>>41008532Why do these retards keep putting incriminating and damaging shit like this on their stuff? Do not they not realize how bad it looks? It has to be an op.
>>41008911How is he retarded? Explain. They literally caused places like Lebanon to become worse with their rampant support of Islam, who end up getting rid of them after they’re no longer useful tools, and they act just as emotionally driven. There is no difference. They’re also conveniently silent whenever they do something wrong or fuck up. Zero accountability. Just. Like. Muslims.
>>41008532confirmed nothingburger hours ago, slide harder
>>41008890you subscribe to the idea of "stochastic terrorism"? I was reliably told mostly by conservatives this was a bullshit concept and I tended to agree. Some people are just crazy dude, it ain't that deep
>>41008792Nuance on tttt? Get that shit outta here!
>>41008920The left is a hypocritical faction. In Canada they put snipers on the roof because they hated seeing fat truckers. But they did not put snipers on the roofs when Muslims who breaking windows and flipping over cars in Montreal. You people have a warped sense about you.
Honestly. Trans folk shouldn’t have access to guns. Them not being able to protect themselves is going to be a consequence of their own dumb think.
>>41008891>"Boohoo people holding me accountable for the shitty things I say and do is violence abloobloooblooo democraps scary!!"Fucking faggot.
Stop acting insane and people won’t think you’re insane.
>>41009052>he said he wants to punch me! arrest him! ‘Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me.’ You really think mean words are violence eh? Killing people and ruining livelihoods is true violence.
>>41009061kind of impossible if people are making that judgment on the basis of "if literally one out of the millions of you does an insane thing, I will consider you all insane."
>>41009079>"if literally one out of the millions of you does an insane thing, I will consider you all insane."0.1% (trans and intersex people who pretend they don’t lean to one side or the other) want to be treated like the norm, and make it their mission to enforce this point of view, so….
>>41009070You're the on who said that, dipshit. You're a morally bankrupt pussy. "Eh?" fuck off leaf.
>>41009079But, they’ve been trying to ram into our heads that sex and gender are totally different and you’re literally killing trans people if you deny that men can get pregnant.
>>41009099sort of dodging the point. Can't blame you, it's an impossible point to really disagree with in any kind of intelligent way so there wasn't much of an option
>>41009079You are expecting good faith from people who already hate us as a starting point. They have no rationality and run on emotion.
>>41009116Now you’re not making any sense. Being offended is an occupational hazard of living in society. If you cannot take it, become a hermit. Go move to the UK if you want to see people arrested for typing “god I want to punch you so bad”. You’ve lost all spine. You’re the pussy.
>>41009128I don’t hate you. I hate that you pretend that you’re any sort of relevant. You’re a pretentious tart. No, men cannot get pregnant and to the average bloke on the side of the road sex and gender are the same fucking thing. Just because 0.1% of the human race was born funnily and is stupid enough to think they’re truly unique doesn’t mean it’s the goddamned norm. Your denial of basic common sense is what’s hated. Not you. Although the line is pretty thin at this point. You’re certainly a sort of creature.
>>41009128That’s you, though? If someone tells you that men cannot get pregnant you end up accusing us of being “literally Hitler”. Your Harvard professor accused a senator of causing trans persons to commit suicide because he denied that men can get pregnant. Wow.
>>41009166Not reading allat. You go out of your way to go on an lgbt board faggot. No one believes you're here in good faith
If an obviously male (“hon”) transwoman walks into a woman’s restroom, a woman (an actual woman) is in her fullest right to punch that thing in the balls.
>>41009134Lmao stop pretending I'm the one that made that argument you schizo loser.You're the one terrified of the big scary leftists ruining your lively hood because you were a shitty person. Ah yes, so violent, lunatic. Foul monsters like Kirk that enable hatred and division shouldn't be killed but they deserve to be silenced becuase they are genuinely terrible and cussing harm to the world. Go rope yourself if you disagree Nancy boy
>>41009176Don't argue with me go to the medical boards that decided to separate gender/sex at some point
>>41009182See? You don’t want a discussion. You’re emotionally driven just like Arabs and Muslims. You’d rather a person be silenced. Killed, in this case. All the people who wanted to end discussion in history were bad men. You’re really going to play this game? Again. I don’t hate you. I’m just tired of your ‘lalala I can’t hear you’ bullshit. You are a child.
>>41009099If simply being transgender and wanting a path to integrate into society constitutes insanity then I guess that is a completely irreconcilable situation, but the OP (idk if that was you or not) seemingly implied that there may be some kind of way trans people could go about not "acting insane," so people wouldn't think they were insane. But you probably should have led with your opinion that all transgender people must detransition in order to not be treated like murderers. I'm guessing you, if you're OP, were not confident enough in that belief to make that explicit, and preferred ambiguity instead.
>>41009166>the cattle masses think X so you have to respect X
>>41009198>You're the one terrified of the big scary leftists ruining your lively hood because you were a shitty personRefusing to wax a trans woman’s balls will get your waxing business shut down. We had these discussions years ago. Please fuck off. You had literal years of getting your way over the slightest of offences. You’re monsters. Especially to the ethnic immigrant folk who wanted to come here for a better life. You shut down their places of work because they came from a place that doesn’t believe men are real women.
>>41009206There is no need for discussion when the starting point is hate and you will find anything to justify it. Lefties are finally running out of patience for bad faith bs and doing what you all do and you're being a whiny phaggot about it
>>41008848>>41008839>>41008819This.We need to back to when it was only ok to hare white people
did they find the shooters intact passport at the scene as well
>>41009200It was never separate. Gender is quite literally derived from sex. Without sex, there would be no gender. Period. Gender is just sexual expression at this point. But that’s besides the point. Sex is one of a very few true binaries in nature. It is based on gametes. The development of men and women is actually antagonistic to the other. There are no true hermaphrodites among humans. Saying gender is separate from sex is a highly disingenuous thing to say. People have done worse things, like throwing the man who told surgeons to wash their hands before surgery into an insane asylum where he was later beaten to death.Humans are retarded no matter the era, and your inability to detect it, is concerning.
>>41009277>sex is based on gametes>people can have large gametes, small gametes, or no gametes>this is binary because no gametes counts as large gametes or small gametes because uhhh.... IT JUST DOES OKAY
>>41009228God you are such a fucking snowflake. Everything offends me?? Nah bro, people's mere existence offends you. That's why you buy into these bullshit news stories, you jerk off to confirmation bias. And what the fuck are you yammering on about immigrants?? You think they can't be LGBT or leftists? Theres a pandemic of them losing business becuase da big scary trannies?? Stop making up scenarios in your head schizo. Get help. What a fucking waste of life you are.
>>41008965Millions of slave laborers, people smuggling routes , inviting drug cartels etc into the system is not some nebulous hypothetical semantic hypothetical. It's destroying the country on purpose to make other politics than corrupt oligarchic third worldist leftism impossible. Don't reduce it to one thing. Leftism in the US is the violence. In a modern country with modern capabilities allowing chaos and crime is a choice. It's usually a question of incarcerating mere handful thousands to knock the crime down by 80%. You don't want that, you want to reimagine. You're comfortable with the death tolls and with the drop in living standard. Your reward is classism, living vicariously through those luxury beliefs that you can't actually afford.No, I do not think the constant, never-ending propaganda attack (even Romney was a nazi, world-ending threat, at one time lmao) is primarily for stoking terrorism, the violence is a side-effect. You need to demonize the other side and construct a simulacrum of your opponent for the mainstream, because otherwise, at this point, you will automatically lose. Your positions are all hot garbage and only viable as luxury beliefs, basically. You can't compete with the popular ticket on the right, so you drive insane polarization. The resultant violence is something you like to gloat about. You love it, it feeds your de facto class identity. but you're obviously scared of consequences from the rednecks and the white trash etc etc. A pendulum between sneering malice and pants-shitting terror. Because, of course, your side, the aggrieved neurotic freak big tent coalition, would get stomped on like a wet shit, if it came to anything serious. Until boomers die, I don't think that's really happening, but Trump absolutely will hammer you legislatively now, which is also something you'll shriek over. And of course you'll try to critique the quality of the reaction. uselessly, since nobody cares what you or some media dimwit thinks.
>>41009294Which of those three do you have
>>41009246I don’t hate you though. You’re assuming I do. You’re all emotion. No reason. You’re a danger to society.
>>41008839They've been doing this to black people for years. >black guy shoots someone>ALL NIGGERS ARE DANGEROUS!Suddenly when it's white trannies it's a problem.
>>41009246>Lefties are finally running out of patienceYou’ve never had patience. We have. We’ve been bending over backwards for you for years. We literally allowed you to castrate our children, both literally and figuratively.
>>41009294The development path for producing gametes may or may not end up successfully producing gametes. Whether you produce gametes or not does change the fact that you’re either on one or the other path of development. There is no third path.I’m tired of you.
>>41009277Like i said go argue with the medical boards who medicalized gender dysphoria and the treatments for it. You phaggots simply need to get into the field and disprove it instead of whining to troons on 4chan which will ultimately change nothing
>>41009296I don’t hate trans folk. I hate their belief in science. It’s wrong. They hate biology or something. That’s all I care about. I know trans folk who aren’t insane enough to think they’re actually, truly, the sex they identify as.
>>41009356Uhh. Half of the scientific community can’t even agree on what a woman is. You don’t fathom how compromised the scientific community has become.Richard Dawkins thinks you’re an insane person, though. He thinks you’re useless.
>>41009300some people are just crazy dude, it ain't that deep> but Trump absolutely will hammer you legislatively now, which is also something you'll shriek overas opposed to... what, rolling over and taking it? what exactly would be an acceptable response to that in your view.
>>41009312>I don’t hate you thoughYou retarded chuds always say this but as stated above this is a bad faith tactic to get people to let their guards down. No one's buying it anymore
>>41009333Sri is illegal for minors pretty much everywhere. And certainly castration is too. What the fuck are you doing to kids bro?? If kids were really being castrated why would you have patience for it in the first place? Weird ass projecting pedo.
Nothing will change. LGBT people are largely self hating suicidal losers that will bring us all down by supporting the most asinine things like child grooming and breast implants for children, and structure their voting methods accordingly.
>>41008726*BANG!!!*Lol nah j/k i'm just joshin' you anon lol
>>41009349or not does not* change the fact >>41009356You really want to do this? Okay. Listen. Trannies joined the cancer atheist movement (and before you accuse me of being a theist—I’m not) because they thought the science was “on their side” when it just wasn’t. It never was. Pic related (lmaooo).Anyway… RICHARD DAWKINS HAS SPOKEN:— “This ridiculous article (shame on the once-great Scientific American) ignorantly misunderstands the nature of the sex binary. … Sex is not defined by chromosomes, nor by anatomy, nor by psychology or sociology, nor by personal inclination, nor by “assignment at birth”, but by gamete size. It happens to be embryologically DETERMINED by chromosomes in mammals. … But it is universally DEFINED by the binary distinction between sperms and eggs. You may argue about “gender” if you wish (biologists have better things to do) but sex is a true binary, one of rather few in biology.”Article in question: https://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/voices/stop-using-phony-science-to-justify-transphobia/Trans folk are delusional. They’ve never once understood basic science.
>>41009349>it's gametes>okay actually it isn't gametes, it's something elsethis is why everyone thinks people like you are dishonest, I'm not going to bother asking what defines the development pathway (it's evidently not gametes) since whatever other physical trait you point to you'll insist isn't actually sex once I problematise thatthis is why we're tired of you
>>41009371And yet gender dysphoria remains a legit diagnoses along with the treatmentsLmao why would I care what richard dawkins thinks. Such a weak appeal to authority
>>41009376>I’m going get them to drop their guard by stating my immense hate for them…
>>41009376You think all trans folk agree with you eh buddy
>>41009408Sorry. Richard Dawkins has spoken. You lost. See >>41009401
>>41009410>he thinks there’s nothing to authority I bet you hate Douglas Murray LOL Everything you parrot is from authority, somewhere some whenThis is how humans work
>>41009426>literally no argument>appeal to authority fallacy
>>41009396>moderate rightKrk. Also way more republican men have vouched for breast implants for children than trannies. Keep fearmongering with your weird fetish tho big guy.>>41009401>citing Richard DawkinsHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHSHSHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA faggot
>>41009401Cherry picked appeal to authority
>>41009440Never heard of him why should I care
>>41009445See >>41009440you’re an idiot if you think authority doesn’t matterYou’re like Andrew “books r stoopid” Tate>>41009455>>41009459You lost the science. It’s literally witchcraft to you.
Trans folk who deny the biological binary reality of sex are the same type of people who deny the existence of IQ. They’re genuinely low IQ retards and no matter what you say they will never ever change. Ever. “It’s impossible to argue with a stupid person”. The irony is that all leftists should just be killed.
>>41009476If we lost the science then surely medical boards wouldn't continue seeing gender dysphoria as a medical diagnosis
>>41009498>The irony is that all leftists should just be killed.Thinking people should be killed for their opinions!!! It's not what charlie kirk would have wanted!!!
>>41009498why would I deny the biological reality of sex?I'm a transsexual, that's the whole point
>>41009499Dysphoria is dysphoria. It’s a mental disorder. It’s weird that you think this is proof of anything.
>>41009498>"biological binary">defending IQ>using 'irony' in the wrong contextEpic grab bag of a post
>>41009401Lmao thats such a retard take from dawkins. Hes always been a bit of a clown tho. Calling sex a true binary in biology is so ignorant, they can fertilize human eggs without sperm, asexual creatures exist, and dont even get me started on plants. Its just a feature that most humans tend to fall into, but if sex was truly binary INTERSEX DISORDERS WOULD NOT EXIST. This definition means anyone infertile has no sex, and that the only way to prove sex is to have kids. Its dumb and youre dumb for parroting it.
>>41009519If you think sex isn’t binary, you deny the biological reality. If you think men can get pregnant, you deny the biological reality. If you think gender doesn’t come of sex, you deny the biological reality. If you think all races are the same, you deny the biological reality. If you think women aren’t women, you deny the biological reality.
>>41009518But that’s the irony of it. The people who are willing to have a discussion are being killed by the people who don’t want to have a discussion. Only one deserves to live. Only one wants to make things better. >>41009529It seems all the fat went up into that fat head of yours.
>>41009535Wrong. An egg can be stimulated into such a state. The egg’s nature in essence was made to require another gamete. You’re hilarious.
>>41009535Asexual lifeforms exist. Asexual humans do not. Not true asexuals anyway.
>>41009523So you agree gender dysphoria exist or? And how do you treat it in your non medical opinion
>>41009540but sex is literally a collection of traits, it's bimodalthe idea of men getting pregnant is arbitrary, if we were 20 years in the future when womb transplants are a thing would you suddenly think men who get pregnant aren't men?your problem is you don't actually understand science, you're getting worked up over an issue of terms. The map is not the territory. The words we use in biology do not determine reality, they are merely descriptive and not meant to be absolute.
>>41009535Eggs can be "fertilized" without sperm through techniques like parthenogenesis and somatic cell nuclear transfer, though human development is more complex, still. In natural parthenogenesis, an egg develops without fertilization by sperm, *but this doesn't occur in mammals*. In laboratories, researchers have used cloning techniques to create embryos from a non-reproductive cell combined with an egg, or have grown synthetic embryos from stem cells, with the potential to aid in infertility treatments. But eggs and sperm are still part of a normally binary process. They weren’t made without one.
>>41009547Yes I agree conservatives need to stop killing dem politicians and don't deserve to live cause they only make things worse. Still waiting on the economy to get better btw
>>41008532SOURCE?in b4>stephanie crowder
>>41009547>It seems all the fat went up into that fat head of yours.Pretty ironic huh?
>>41009576What the fuck do you think dysphoria is? Proof that sex isn’t real? Are you retarded?>>41009579>but sex is literally a collection of traitsNo. It’s a surprisingly simple binary process that goes all the way down to surprisingly simple cells.
Trannies are retarded. Like, actually fucking retarded. Tell them we share fifty percent of our dna with bananas and they will throw a huge tantrum.
>>41009556Nature does not exist you fucking nonce. A human "stimulating an egg" is just as natural as anything else. Its the worlds most convoluted mating ritual. You can also simply bioengineer an xx female into producing sperm. The insistence of sex as an unshakeable reality has no utility in the realm of genetics. Any geneticist knows all life is different and that our classifications are based on observed trends, and nothing concrete. How can we define sex if we cant even define what a human is?
>>41009617Okay now you’re coming across as legitimately insane. Nice.
>>41009617>”Love doesn’t exist Morty. It’s just a chemical reaction in the brain Morty.”Please kill yourself.
>>41009617>Nature does not existwhat did he mean by this
>>41009605Yeah you can't answer a simple question. Keep deflecting phaggot this is why none of you are taken in good faith anymore lmao
>>41009615Do you believe humans share 50% of our DNA with a banana?
>>41009617>The insistence of sex as an unshakeable reality has no utility in the realm of geneticsGametes exist sorry.
>>41009605>No. It’s a surprisingly simple binary process that goes all the way down to surprisingly simple cells.no, it's not. You're picking one of the ways that we describe sex and trying to apply it to every situation regardless of how useful the definition is. There is no one meaning of "biological sex" first of all because if we're talking about biology then the word "biological" is redundant. "Sex" is a word that has a bunch of different meanings in different situations, because that's how words work. In the same way that we can define the term "species" despite the fact that the definition is inaccurate when saying polar bears and brown bears are different species. The word does not define reality, it's a tool for understanding that isn't always complete. or in other words, biological sex is when I fuck you mom
>>41008532BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA*inhales*AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>41009658>or in other words, biological sex is when I fuck you momYes. For the purpose of the interaction of gametes. Thanks for agreeing with me.
>>41009667right, and you agree that it is "biological sex" regardless of the fact that our gametes are not in fact interacting because my body does not produce gametesyou accept this use of the word "sex" even though it isn't exactly according to your chosen definition
>transphobes think not believing in naturalistic fallacy essentialist garbage means you're anti-science
>>41009418That chuds hate us, want to limit our access to healthcare, and argue in bad faith while claiming to do none of these things? Yes, I believe that and you'd have to be an idiot not to if you're a trans person who's ever spoken with these people.NTA by the way.
>>41009676Your body doesn’t produce gametes because your biological pathway of development was sadly compromised. You still lean towards one or the other path, since the development of males and females is, technically speaking, antagonistic to the development of the other. No true hermaphrodites can exist amongst humans. Sorry. You lean one way or the other. It might be so fine as to be unable to distinguish, but this is still the case of it.You should be happy to be an outlier. Just don’t make it your entire fucking identity, and don’t pretend it’s the norm.
>>41009625>>41009639>>41009642Facts dont care about your feelings>>41009650is that the only argument you have? Talk to an actual biologist or genetic engineer about this if you actually want to be educated instead of just parroting terf talking points that are made in bad faith.
>>41009690>naturalism… scientism… le bad… BAD… BAD EPISTEMOLOGY Natural philosophy won out sorry. There are processes to literally everything. It’s all Nature.
>>41009700>You still lean towards one or the other pathhow can I, if biological sex is binary?binary means one or the other. You're describing bimodal sex.
>>41009639rick is correct and you are losing
>>41009712teleology isn't real
>>41009708Gametes exist. Sorry. Whether you produce gametes or not depends on whether your biological pathway or development was compromised. You just don’t want to be told that you’re defective, do you? A lot of “defective” people were brilliant in history. Shut the fuck up. If they can make the best of their situation why can’t you?
>>41009692And also say that it's ironic that we don't believe 50% of our DNA is a banana and then call us idiots.
>>41009715>how can I, if biological sex is binary?…You don’t appear to know what binary means, or denotes. It’s one or the other. There aren’t any third pathways. There are only outlier developments towards one or the other. Because again, males and females are biologically antagonistic to the other in development.
>>41009728>compromised>defectiveunscientific value judgements, there's gametes and there's people without gametes, that's it
>>41009733Wait. You really don’t think you share fifty percent of your dna with bananas? We absolutely do.
>>41009739is it pathways, or is it gametes? and if there's outliers, then it's certainly bimodal and not binary.you're already coming up with alternative definitions for sex!
>>41009314maybe it was a problem when it was happening to black people too, retard?
>>41009741>unscientific value judgements, there's gametes and there's people without gametes, that's itIn a world of causality where life is meant to originate and propagate itself? Sure, buddy. Totally not a problem. Gametes are totally useless. Totally.
>>41009700>Sex exists and i can prove it>WELLL sometimes its so fine it cant be defined, but its definitely still there!!!This is all retarded anyways. Intersex exists, you should be able to take cross sex hormones if you want, gender is a social term, etc. theres so many reasons to not be trans exclusionary but youd rather die on the hill of "being a REAL woman". Like is that how sad your life is, that your defining feature is your "normal gametes"?
>>41009754No. You’re just not very intelligent. Life is meant to propagate. This is why sex even exists. Even asexual life forms need to reproduce. This is a consequence of living in a world of causality. There’s always a background to the foreground.
>>41009782life is not "meant" to do anythingI suggest reading the selfish gene by dawkins, it's a good book and you'd probably learn a lot
>>41009692 Yep all you have to ask is 1.Does gender dysphoria exist and 2.How to treat it?They inevitably meltdown cause the idea of actually trying to understand and not just act like hateful chimps is foreign to them
>>41009765You’re assuming some magical third gamete exists or something, or that biology is trying to find some extra third or fourth gamete, and failing to do so. That’s weird. Although I don’t doubt that life can still become radically different.
>>41009764>meant tookay, we're getting really unscientific now
>>41009794>not meant to do what it is clearly designed to do
>>41009728I know i cant create an egg without medical intervention retard. But this argument is saying that women who dont have children are defective. What good is having the machinery if you dont use it am i right? To what end? Most reproductive lines end or become so diluted in the gene pool to hardly make meaningful distinctions. You are brutally mogged by about 15 million rodents and fish with more genetic impact than you will ever have. There are other ways to preserve your legacy thruout time, but the entire endeavor is ultimately meaningless due to the nature of entropy. Life is temporary, either you enjoy your time or youre wasting it. No amount of breeding or religion or grandstanding will make it more meaningful.
>>41009753Thank you anon. I'm starting to understand how the mind of a 4chan chud works.This is important research you're helping me conduct here.
>>41009794>life is not "meant" to do anythingIt’s meant to propagate itself. Survival. Even stars evolve and die. There’s no meaning to it beyond it *running*. >>41009801They don’t dent mental illness exists. Lol. If you identify as the other sex/gender that’s fine. I don’t care. Just don’t muddy up the science.
>>41008850Because the right and capitalism as a whole have completely defunded and devalued the humanities especially philosophy so ofc people dont go to college to argue. They go to make money.People critique communism for having you take a class in Marxism in college when in America the student loan is the indoctrination that forces you to buy in to the system. Education is no longer a place of learning but that of hoops to jump through to please your overlords.
>>41009808Yes. Causality means things are caused. Life was caused. Now it doesn’t want to go away. Do you hate evolution or something? It’s an overly sophisticated blind idiot. It does not care about you. But it still *runs*.
>>41009755I got called a violent nigger so many times on /lgbt/. Now you know how it feels.
>>41009837cause and effect does not require any kind of intention or 'meant to'this is actually a common misunderstanding people have of evolution, it isn't some goal-based optimisation scheme
>>41009808Penises aren’t meant to do anything? Do you really think this? There is no purpose in fertilization?Wow you really hate biology. You rage against the Machine.
>>41009860tell me how you can scientifically prove the existence of a purpose behind anythinghow do you empirically observe a purpose?
>>41009823>It’s meant to propagate itself. Survival. Even stars evolve and die. There’s no meaning to it beyond it *running*.Stars evolve and die. Bananas grow and are eaten. Their DNA becomes our DNA. The Irony of life is gametes.
>>41009850>cause and effect does not require any kind of intention or 'meant to'Irrelevant. Biology was still made with an innate goal in mind: survival. Biology will literally reshape itself to suit the environ. Our penises are shaped like shovels to scoop out rival semen. Squirrels plug their mates holes with cum so their mates don’t get raped. There’s purpose.
>>41009801I used to be a malerepper who coped by being a male TERF and asking those two questions is eventually what snapped me out of the ideology and led me to transition. You either have to assume implicitly that trans people are inherently evil predators or that people with gender dysphoria ought to all just suffer forever to be like that.
>>41009875You already said “nature doesn’t exist” so I don’t know why you think any sort of post from my end will change your insane brain.
>>41009823The average tranny is not muddying up the science and just following what a medical professional is telling them tho. Chuddies will go after the uniformed but never go and try to change the medical boards or disprove the studies showing the current treatments for gender dysphoria works
I like how you morons can’t conceive of a right wing trans person who doesn’t buy into any of your bullshit. It’s like fem fruity gays hating on masculine “straight acting” gays for not embracing their inner fairy.
>>41009364Right wingers continously cite biology and science as if what was in their 5th grade textbook is gospel and cannot seem to get it through their thick skulls that both are changed and challenged on a regular basis.
>>41009900Half of the scientific community can’t tell you what a woman is. What makes you think all medical professionals agree on anything these days? Where the fuck were during Covid?
>>41009892Suffering is usually the point hence they will either ignore the dysphora exist or tear down the current treatment for it without providing a better option
Nature somehow knows that some prey animals can’t see orange. They see it as green. Nature, evolution, somehow knew that tigers should be the color orange, for them to better blend in their surroundings to better catch and kill and eat prey. This is why there’s more shades of green compared to other colors. If you think nature isn’t eerie. You’re dead wrong.
>>41009883>Biology was still made with an innate goal in mind: survival.No, the life that persists is what survives and reproduces. There is no innate goal, it's just selection bias. It's immaterial if some parts of the population just don't reproduce because they're gay or trans; the species survives because these reoccurring genetic/hormonal mutations only affect a minority.>There’s purpose.Only if you're a creationist or if your religion is "What generally tends to happen is moral and therefore must be violently enforced so it never doesn't happen."
>>41009961>There is no innate goal, it's just selection biasI’d call that survival of the fittest. Survival is absolutely a goal. The goal of causality is to just run. It’s mindless otherwise. This is just how it is.
>>41008959It doesn't matter if it's true, it matters if MAGAts believe it, which they do.
>>41009924Not relevant when the current treatments for gender dysphoria have been shown to work based on the studies. You can believe they are delusional but realistically if someone is trans what does repressing do for them and if you don't care about their well being why should they care what you have to say at all
>>41009961>Only if you're a creationistThe idea that some alien could have created life on some planet is more so science fiction than plain fantasy at this point. What makes you think spacetime, or causality/evolution, isn’t a tool of God?
>>41009912We can conceive of it it's just kind of pathetic and makes us feel sorry for you so we don't like to talk about it much. The image of a trans woman prostrating herself in front of a 4chan banana chud and thanking them for disrespecting her in an empty bid to be part of the glorious, racist, nazi culture here is just too heart-breaking to think about for very long.
>>41009984Sorry. Dysphoria has too many similarities to mental illness or delusion to just be shunted away to a personality trait. It’s possible, though. It’s also possible it’s just a sexual thrill or fad.
>>41009975The people that tend to do best at playing basketball happen to be the tallest people. Shorter people are worse at basketball.Clearly humans were made with an innate to play basketball. Short people are inherently inferior because they're worse at basketball. This is evidenced by how none of the best players are short.
>>41009997It’s nowhere near as pathetic as Queers for Palestine. One is actually suicidal to the point of maliciousness. >>41010008That’s called odds. Rates. Most Chinese are short. “But I’ve met tall Chinese” isn’t a very intelligent response.
>>41010005Ok say it's a mental illness to you how does it get treated. We have studies showing things that help so where is your alternative treatment
>>41010028Depends on the person. I’m a firm believer in “well if they aren’t hurting anyone why should I care”. I will respect a trans person’s superficial identity. But that’s about it. There are indeed quirky individuals out there that are entirely harmless.
>>41010021No, the point is that it's dumb to look at general tendencies and moralize about them. In the same way that short people aren't inferior just because they're generally worse at basketball, trans and gay people aren't inherently defective and immoral people because they tend not to reproduce as much.
>>41010008Tall blacks are innate. Short fat Jews are not. There was a South Park episode on this.
>>41008532the person of interest is a man so not really. i know y'all are mostly children and believe whatever you see online though
>>41010040>In the same way that short people aren't inferior just because they're generally worse at basketballThey’re inferior at basketball.
>you disagree with me! therefore you hate trans people!mental illness
>>41010071You harass us, discriminate against us, try your hardest to limit our healthcare, and come into our spaces to argue why trans people are mentally ill and should not be listened to because we go against life's "innate goal" of reproduction.You seem pretty hateful and obsessed with us.
>>41010021>It’s nowhere near as pathetic as Queers for Palestine. One is actually suicidal to the point of maliciousness.Homo-Nationionalism only works conceptually and as a propaganda tool if the country you are living in isn't already trying to strip your rights away and fast-track you into prison or work camps. I'm sure this argument would have been more effective 10 years ago but nobody is really buying it now.Also get your 4chan politics straight before your banana-chud brothers turn on you too. I thought you guys were supposed to accidentally be anti-zionist because of the 'evil jewish cabal running the world' or whatever?
>>41010093He didn’t do thatYou are insane
>>41010093No one thinks about you my guy. The only time people give you shit is when you act insane and demand others to think exactly how you do. That and when you snap and attack others.
>>41010035Alright that's fair but the assumption when someone enters trans spaces to argue is not that they are a reasonable person who "lives and lets live" Most troons are not medically educated so arguing with them when most are just listening to what medical professionals say makes no sense to me when it's the medical boards who are deciding the criteria
>>41010113>You can't prove I'm part of the masses of angry chuds who do these things>I just agree with them and talk like them and argue in bad faith like them>Could be coincidental
The thing I'll truly never understand is that how people can unironically think that when a horrific crime is committed by some straight white guy, he's merely an individual and nothing else. But as soon as some minority does it suddenly that horrific person is representative of the entire population of said minority. How do people live life with such little ability for introspection?
>>41010134Hard not to say this when you're harassed and discriminated against in real life and it's constantly in the news that conservatives are trying to sue hospitals that provide transgender healthcare and dent Medicare funding to ones that do in Congress.You don't have to take it personally because it's not you suffering the consequences.
>>41010175Racists have never been particularly introspective.
>>41010192>dentdeny>MedicareMeant to say Medicaid
>>41010195I’m not stupid shut up do you think I’m evil
>>41010150You argue in bad faith all the time do you think I’m evil
>>41010253Uhh...you okay hoss?
>>41010264You're free to leave the /lgbt/ board anytime. It's you who's come here to argue with us.
>>41010175because they are hateful and evil and just want to generalize as an excuse to be more evil
>>41010266No I’m not fucking okay this has been the worst year of my life >>41010281No I can’t I am stuck to this place I don’t want to talk about it I just can’t handle this shit anymore
>>41010284IM NOT FUCKING EVIL I’m not evil
>>41010175this wasn't even committed by a minority as far as we know! the picture looks like a white cis guy!the sole thing linking this assassination to trans people is the alleged leaked ATF memo and the feds are already walking the claims from it back.
>>41010284Fuck you are evil im not evil Im normal and you are abnormal
Charlie was assassinated and the trans-correlation (in all the recent shootings) is just engineered psyop to justify the bills they are planning against transgenderismLiterally creating a narrative that doesnt exist to justify their meansReally evil stuffRIP Charlie kirk
>>41010323most normal and nonevil post
>>41010347You are playing with me like everyone else
>>41010297Look, I don't think you're evil, I just think you are a little ignorant and have been hanging out on 4chan too often. Everyone can be susceptible to spewing hate speech if they are terminally online enough in the wrong places and don't make an effort to deconstruct, seperate, and recontextualize their feelings from their desires from their politics. It's happening all the time constantly. I think you should hang out with other IRL trans women in the meatspace, get off 4chan for a while, and read some trans literature. I know I'm always telling people this, but it's the truth. I used to have some pretty shit opinions too waaay back on the day on this site, circa '06 or '07, and the culture here wasn't even nearly as bad back then.I'm sorry things have been bad for you. They've been bad for all of us, but that doesn't mean you should redirect that at other vulnerable people, or worse regurgitate transphobic propaghanda against your own sisters. Okay? I'm sorry for calling you hoss.
>>41010329yep
>>41010415IM NOT TRANS
>>41010507...oh. sorry. I thought you were that other anon I was talking to.Well disregard all the stuff about trans solidarity and sisterhood and shit then and only read the other parts.
>>41010553Thank you anon have a good day
