Waow my body looks even worse from behind lmao no saving that. Soz for posting again so soon but like it's crazy how shit i look from behind. 3 months hrt 191cm 70kg
go anorexicgain weightrinse and repeat for three years in HRTuntil then, sybau
>>41010278give it time dawg, 3 months is nothing. come back in a year or two and if u still look like this then you can say you're doomed
>>41010278my body is worse desu at least u get to be white
op you shouldnt transition if you want to have a good life i am so so serious. from your body alone you are never going to come close to passing. really ask yourself if this is worth it.>>41010314>>41010340you cannot be fucking serious
>>41010314Currently losing weight :)>>41010340I'm aware but i doubt hrt fixes this level of shitty starting point
>>41010278complete man in every way. stop trying and accept fate like the rest of us
>>41010278nigga this is awful just stop while you are ahead
>>41010445See the issue is I'm not sure i can live a good life as a man either. Then again idk, if it is so shit like hrt wouldn't even really alleviate dysphoria so atp maybe i am better off a successful if depressed man versus ostracized depressed hon. Idk i think I'm going ti try anyway just incase i somehow manage to be a mogger>>41010449Probably should lmao but i do not see a point in not trying just in case
>>41010471I'm pretty sure I'm not ahead at all given I'm a total moid unless you mean ig while i can at least still just cope and rep idk. I really do not expect to pass I'm just trying anyway like as an experiment for how far someone as fucked as me can get
>>41010445>>41010498i mean yeah the starting point is bad but damn like at least give it a chance and see what happens, worst case scenario you don't masculinize further which is already pretty good imo
>>41010602theres no 'chance' here op is 100% going to end up a hon>worst case scenario you don't masculinize further which is already pretty good imomanmoding is its own hell
>>41010602Oh yeah i mean I'm going to stick with it i just like dooming and being told about how I'm ngmi. It's very unlikely things ever get better tho
>>41010278If you cannot live without HRT, you will have to take HRT.
>>41010628Yeah i think if trooning doesn't work out which it won't I'll just detroon rather than manmode>>41010673I feel like i could live without hrt if hrt wasn't going to help ne pass enough anyway.
>>41010838You can just try to stop HRT if you feel like it would make life easier for you. If you feel the desire to get back onto it however, you should start HRT again.
>>41011031I'm going to keep going for now but again I'll detroon rather than manmode if i dont pass and am uncomfortable honmoding
>>41011042You do you. I wish you best of luck on your journey. Be wary of the sunk-cost fallacy.
So yeah do ye give me any chance at making it at all lol?>>41011144Thanks.
Why am i so disgusting why am i built like this what did i do to deserve to be a permahon I'm a moid freak monster i just want to like idk be a woman instead of this fucking disgusting moid thing
>>41010278Sorry anonHRT might help your hips ,but probably not enough to just balanse out with your cest
>>41011579No almost certainly not, I'm going to keep trying and see but it does look extremely fucked desu.
>>41011667Dunno how muc weight you kan put on ,but Id try it I guess
>>41010278That really sucks. I'm sorry, Nona :(
Bump
>>41011683I'm going to keep losing it for now to try lose my bricky waist. For whatever reason i look like a fridge from the front and dorito from the back
>>41010278ur fucking disgustingplease dont ever be a tranny, you're making life worse for passing trannies like me
>>41016482Soz babes is it ok if i be a manmoder at least?
>>41010278Im jerking off to your back, butt, legs and shaved body btw
>>41016779That's nice but do you agree I'm an ugly permahon who shouldn't troon
>>41010278look into having a better posture, the male posture in this picture definitely is not helping and it's something that you can actually change
I see you on plebbit all the time and I think it's funny that everyone there encourages you to keep doing this. You're more ngmi than anyone has ever been. You really are a sad, confused faggot.
>>41010278i basically look like this with a but a cm taller, thinner ribcage, slightly longer shoulders and very slightly wider hips
>>41016898I will try yeah i did notice the posture but idk if that's going to make a huge difference either way but I will try>>41016940Yeah i do not know why they pretend I'm gmi i even have someone calling me a luckshit now lmao. You should be telling me that there too though i hate how everyone on reddit is too afraid of me like killing myself or whatever to just be honest with me. Idk maybe you have you should tell me i prefer when people are honest instead of the constant hugboxxing
>>41017119Just think about it anon, you could have been a tall, lithe feminine man if you just grew your hair and hit the gym and bought that hair shit from HIMS.If you look like this now, how are you going to look when you are 50 or 60 and no longer have the beauty of youth to mask your failure.I just can't see this transition sticking.>luckshitI have consulted ANSUR and you are a luckshit if we mean someone who is lucky enough to know from the start that they are never, EVER going to make it as a troon.
>>41017041That's tragic sorry>>41017175I mean surely taking hrt would help me stay a feminine man when I'm old. I agree that if i hit the gym that'd be pretty great for me as a moid unfortunately i really hate being a moid idk. Also idk my hair is grown and i don't need hair shit from hims my hair is fine too idk. But yeah I'm never ever going to make it i mean yeah look at the ansur lmao. Idk I'll try it in case it somehow magically works out and then give up and detroon otherwise
>>41017282The problem with using troon HRT is that if it works you will grow breasts. The HIMS suggestion is for an alternative if you stop trooning.Imagine, soon you'll be a giant 6' 3" moid with a massive chest, made even bigger by your breasts, and teeny tiny hips.Are you going to start talking in a squeaky voice and going into the little girls room for your weewee as well?A terrifying prospect.
>>41017427I won't use the women's bathroom ever idk i just hate being like this. Yeah it's going to be extremely embarrassing being a man with tits idk i just idk fucking hate being a man and I know this isn't going to make me not a man but idk it just feels like i surely need to at least try and see if it's possible instead of immediately giving up. Idk i cope by just pretending my transition is an experiment of how far a gigahon can get if they genuinely try really hard
>>41010278> 3 months hrtlol you're not going to get massive changes for at least a year or two
>>41010278just want to check you are the 6'3 irish tranny who started doing pills because you was scared of needles? if so, it's nice to see you back, the last time you responded to me but i didn't get a chance to answer back and since it's been a few months i've completely lost what you wrote. but your posture seems a lot better than what it was before. maybe consider swapping to injections. it's also nice to hear that you've started losing weight. have you started doing more skincare stuff? i know that was one of the things i pointed out and recommended for you to get on accutane.
>>41017880Yeah but it doesn't matter when it's this fucked to start>>41017939Uh yeah that's me. Idk my posture is still dogshit and idk i need to try lose way more weight to lose all the upper body mass. And yeah my skincare is pretty good now I've started using adapalene and I'll start on tretinoin after a bit on that I'd say. My skin is pretty nice now aside from my awful forehead wrinkles. But idk my main concern is my body looks horrendous and unfixable I'm sure you agree. Also idk how you always manage to recognise me ig i always take the photos the same way but like idk you always spot me idk nice talking
>>41010278hi nona i have the same body type. i don’t stealth pass but i like the way i look more than if i were repping and people are generally nice to me. androgyny isn’t so bad
>>41018419>my posture is still dogshitsure but at least now you don't have people asking if you have scoliosis like last time.>to lose all the upper body massgood luck with that, i'm still trying to lose weight and it's just a pain in the ass.>I've started using adapalene and I'll start on tretinoin> My skin is pretty nice nownice to hear that it's working for you, hopefully it's a step in the right direction towards you hopefully passing someday.>my body looks horrendous and unfixable I'm sure you agreei assume most of your issues are with your chest/ribcage/stomach. i think the stomach could be solved just by losing weight, which you are doing. ribcage probably can't be solved (unless you have a fuckton of visceral fat, which i don't really think you have but i'm honestly not sure). though i think you could use something like a corset to accentuate your waist more and put less focus on your chest.> idk how you always manage to recognise me ig i always take the photos the same way but like idk you always spot mei think it's a combination of your photos usually being in front of that wardrobe, the fact that you love mentioning your weight and height in every thread, the fact you'll use words like "hugboxxing" and "hateboxing" quite often, there's also the fact that you speak really negatively of yourself and probably aren't in the best mindset. all these make it fairly easy to spot when your posting, i swear im not stalking you.
>>41018485I suppose yeah idk how well do you pass so like not stealth but is it like very clocky or you can pass short term or what?
>>41018754I mention my weight and height cuz otherwise I'll be asked anyway idk also idk i do say those words a lot ig. And yeah idk i feel like my teeny tiny hips are big part of the issue too along with my giant ribcage. Like idk surely you don't think it's fixable. Also idk I do actually like when you reply cuz you're nice
>>41018758it’s very person to person and context dependent and such. i think i can have moments where people don’t notice, at least not enough for them to care. there are fewer options on what clothes you can wear and i think it helps to stay skinny, weight wouldn’t distribute well on this frame. but anything less than 100% permastealth puts your social life in the tranny category regardless, you just learn to accept thathttps://unsee cc/album#daiJQfz26d5R
>>41018950Yeah i can see what you mean, idk if I'll be able to handle being a visible tranny idk. I feel like if i can pass to strangers and then people who like get to know me realise I'm a tranny that'd be good enough for me i wouldn't mind friends knowing i could never go deep Stealth I don't think
>>41019042strangers don’t matter though, their perspective of you isn’t relevant aside from safety considerations
>>41019135I suppose yeah i just mean like idk for day to day shit and then hopefully the people who end up knowing me enough to figure it out would then still be nice even though I'm a tranny ig but idk it's not like I'll even get that probably. I don't think I'd ever pass for more than a brief interaction at best, likely not at all desu. I'm just going to try take what i can get and idk just hope i can find nice people where I'm at least enough of a woman that it doesn't cause them extreme cognitive dissonance to try think of me as such
>>41019535ahh yes i think that is very achievable and that it is possible to find happiness under those conditions!
>>41019716I think I'd be able to be happy enough with that desu but Idk if even that is achievable for me...
>>41017282thing is though, I actually do have a cute face, but i'm still unsure if that would ever be able enough to pass (we're both 6'3, we might as well just cope u know lol).anyway enough about me! i do hope your face is not fucked cause then its going to be really difficult for you
>>41019946I wouldn't say it's fucked but i need ffs. It's like idk pretty normal, and everything wrong with it is fixable with ffs, i certainly wouldn't say it's cute though I've a big irish head on me but it's not so bad at the very least my eyes are cute which is nice
>>41010278tbHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON
>>41020383Yeah I'm a gigahon
>>41018754>hopefully it's a step in the right direction towards you hopefully passing someday.Grooming.
>>41020812I'm trooning either way so it's just pointless hugboxxing rather than trying to groom me into transitioning
>>41010278aw hell nahhh my niggas got a linebacker buildyou should quit hrt and swap it for roids anon itd do you 1000x better trust me
>>41021048Probably would yeah but i just hate being a moid so much even tho I'm so clearly built for it
Bump it's crazy how over it is>>41018754Also totally not stalker anon is it possible to add you on discord or whatever cuz idk you're always super nice to me I'd like to keep in touch you're really sweet idk i like talking to you
>>41022587Volunteering for more grooming what has happened to our young men
>>41010278You need to work out your glutes and thighs.
>>41022805They're just really nice not a groomer, even assuming i was groomed into being trans that happened before anyway>>41022841Yeah I'm going to but desu idk if that'll make up for the tiny fucking bones
Bumping so it hopefully doesn't die overnight and that guy can reply to me
>>41022868>Yeah I'm going to but desu idk if that'll make up for the tiny fucking bonesYou need something to offset your bideltoid, fortunately, you can make your butt bigger enough to do this, both women and men do it all the time.See this pic I found in the archives.
>>41018939>surely you don't think it's fixableprobably not in the way you think, though i think you'd be surprised at how much could be done - excluding surgeries. it just takes so long and requires consistency and effort.>when you reply cuz you're nicei feel like whenever i reply i'm too straightforward with what i'm trying to say which leads it to being too harsh. maybe it's because i have experience with someone who acts in similar ways.>>41020812>Grooming.lmao. you should check some of the previous threads. they were already pretty deadset on starting estrogen and gave their reasoning for it. also i'm just trying to be nice, i have literally no expectations when i post on here. like i don't expect everyone to start swooning over me or whatever stupid shit that people think about.>>41022587>is it possible to add you on discordsure but i suck at talking to others so you'll probably have to start off whenever you want to speak to me. hh_9k
>>41010278Honestly, just detroon and try to make peace with the world. Hugboxing is evil and ywnbaw, nor look like one. If there was a devil it would want nothing more than to give you false hope and urge you to turn yourself into something that other people will only ever see as a weird freak. I'm supportive of trannies btw and I want you as well as every other human being to find peace, but trooning aint it in your case.
>>41023347Waow>>41024929I'm curious what you mean by the way i think it is fixable versus how you think it's fixable also thank you.>>41025048I think there surely is a devil for me to gave this shit of a starting point. Idk you're probably right that i shouldn't waste my time i just idk i really can't stand being a moid and feel like i at least have to try and just hope for a miracle
>>41025918>hope for a miracleIt ain't comin
>>41025918Listen, you don't know how you'll end up if you don't try, you've already committed to the hard part (HRT), so give it your all, and if it doesn't work, well at least you tried.
>>41026992Almost certainly not no but you never know :)>>41027010That's pretty much my attitude I'll at least give it a lash and when it inevitably doesn't work out there'll be nothing to blame aside from rotten luck, rather than myself.
i have a siniliar build and im happier than when i forced myself into manhood even as a honthere is nothing really waiting for you as a man if you dont desire the endgame of it which is for example wife and kids or gay partnershipnowadays not unlikely dying in war
btw depending on what you wear you will be passing out in public if your face is passoid level and you effort max your body. you wont be passing nude but pretty much no tranny does
just saw your height that makes it a bit more difficult ig im 168cm
>>41027276>>41027289Ig yeah idk, i do hate being a man but it feels like yeah trying to be a man will just leave me miserable no matter what whereas i might be able to find something for myself even as a hon idk. I think my body is really fucked enough that effortmaxxing and wearing proper clothes won't save it but we'll see. >>41027350Oh lmao yeah no my body is so fucked I'm actually built like a gigahon regardless of height but then also being 6'3 like I'm an actual gigarapehon desu
>>41010484>Probably should lmao but i do not see a point in not trying just in caseBecause there's a point of no return and you don't know where it is.
>>41010278hey lil' butt what you gonna do with that lil' boy butt
>>41010278I'm gonna butt-vore your cute little butt with my butt>schlooooorpJust suck it right up >:3
>>41010278i mean yeah if this is really you you're cooked sorry gang
>>41029245Wdym i mean if you mean like tits get too big or whatever I'll just get top surgery or whatever and they probably won't cuz of my giant ass ribcage + genetics + troons getting smaller tits anyway usually >>41029268>>41029320I fucking hate how small my fucking butt is desu it's so fucking small lmao even my friends have commented on it. Anyway no weird shit with my butt until it's no longer a boy butt>>41029410Yeah that's me like a couple weeks ago just hit 3 months hrt
>>41029679ah three months yeah give it like 6 years...you even out a lot more. And if you didn't transition super late then your hips will widen too...you'll be fine...no one judges a painting when they are only a few strokes in...
>>41029747I'm 20 so it's probably too late for hip growth outside fat redestibution and like idk you can tell it's probably fucked from the start
>>41030279wat...ur still good. You are young and i can't convince you but it will all work out, time carries a lot of surprises. Just get to the next chapter
