Will smoking completely kill my chances of having a passing voice at one point? Do i have to quit?
>>41015753I want to marry that shy, unassuming, trad supreme lady
>>41015821That does not answer my question.
>>41015847should've used different pic then, I want her to bear me 10 children
You should actually smoke a lot more, that way you can claim you only sound like a man because you smoke so much, and also so you can develop cancer and die faster.
>>41015753Smoking doesn’t ruin your voice unless you chainsmoke for 25+ years
>>41015939This, you're gonna rope way before that so don't worry about it.
>>41015991What if i don't rope?
>>41016648Yeah and what if you pass? Don't ask retarded hypotheticals.
>>41015753you can always just turnbladmode. i ended up with a naturally super deep voice after male puberty but leaning into my smoker's rasp makes me sound more androgynous
>>41016750You're mean.>>41016769Ehh i wanna try to sound actually feminine rather than androgynous if i can.
Hot chicks with super deep smoker voices can still be hot, like Dr. Girlfriend from Venture Bros.The issue is you look like a man because you are one.>>41016799>You're mean.Yeah.
If you voicetrain it really won't matter.
>mommy what's wrong with that lady's voice?>that's what smoking does to youi want to go back. before transvisibility that was what they'd do. now trans panic got them accusing cis women of being men.
>>41016816It won't matter either way, because voice is not, never has been, and never will be, what people use to clock you.
Bump
>>41016843>mommy why does that man have his dick out jerking it in front of the 7 Eleven?>it's ma'am, Jessica, don't be such a chud
>>41016852that is like the biggest lie, voice is like 70% of gendering. if your voice doesn’t match what they thought you were they will “correct” your gender based on it. if you pass well enough, and have a more middling voice you can counteract it, but voice is the biggest trait
>>41016852unironically voice is probably THE most important aspect of passing. not even shitting you. more important than your face. how many men do you know who sound like women?
>>41020749You'd have to pass visually in the first place for that to matter, and you don't.
>>41015753Over time, it changes your voice.It's very bad for your skin.It damages your blood vessels, this will give you all kinds of hell as you get olderAnd obviously it will FUCK your lungs if you smoke for long enoughMost of this damage isn't reversible, so you better put the fucking stoggies downAfter a period of feeling like shit and having intense cravings it will get better. Also pretty sure that quitting cold turkey is the best way to do it.Do you think you have the willpower to stop smoking cigarettes? Prove it. Otherwise deal with the consequences.OP you need to stop smoking
>>41021007It's meAlso please consider that some people will never have a "passing voice" and if that's the only thing you care about, then go ahead and smoke. Life is short anyway, if smoking gives you that much joy then do it... you'll only miss out on ~15 yearsTo be more clear, it will mess up your lungs permanently whether or not it gives you cancer. Do you want to have serious breathing problems and have to carry around a tank of oxygen everywhere? If you don't care, then... go on and smoke. I know it makes you look cool, like you don't care, and I know it's great for socializing and I know it feels good. But it ain't gonna look cool and it ain't gonna feel good when all those health problems start coming in, and nobody can socialize when they're DEAD so think about the consequences. You're a grown up and you're a free... person... just be making informed decisions.
>>41015753no but nic sucks im trying to taper off zyns but i harely get major withdrawals think ill see it i can just stop when im outalso maybe try zyns over cigs for unrelated reasons
>>41021133Vaping damages your voice, your skin, your blood vessels, and your lungs, all similarly to how smoking cigarettes does.You know this, don't you? You need to stop vaping. Nicotine is SUCH a boring drug anyway... in my opinion it's such a waste to trade your health for it
