How can I know if I hate being a man because of dysphoria and not because of some other elusive reason?Maybe I don't actually hate being a man, but I'm just approaching it from the wrong angle. An angle which hurts without cause.
>>41029955If you have to ask, it's not dysphoria
>>41029955If you have to ask, it's dysphoria
>>41029955Idk, what do you not like about being a man? Are there male social roles you feel like are more fitting for you or do they all seem bad? Does looking in the mirror or conforming to male fashion trends make you feel uncomfortable or uneasy? Does perceiving yourself as male make you feel lesser or subhuman? Does the idea of male aging scare you? >>41030426This is not true and also really retarded. Dysphoria is complex and can be difficult to understand. We also normalize ourselves to our own pain and work to rationalize away things when we don't or can't confront them. Basically don't listen to people like this, not everyone innately understands their own pain
>>41029955>>41030426>>41030495You'll have your answer based on which of these posts made you happier
>>41030530you talk like a retarded roastie detached from reality so i can disregard everything you said.
>>41029955I can tell you right now that you don't have dysphoria, so you can stop worrying about it. I suggest getting a hobby and friends that aren't on the autistic spectrum.
>>41030530>what do you not like about being a man?Hard to tell and I can't pinpoint it to one single thing. I see rational benefits to being a man, and I'm also able to appreciate looking good as a man, but being a man simply feels draining and hollow. It feels fundamentally unfulfilling to live as a man.>Are there male social roles you feel like are more fitting for you or do they all seem bad?Most social roles and expectations that come with being a man are dogshit in my opinion. There are exceptions, but they still feel disappointing to me.>Does looking in the mirror or conforming to male fashion trends make you feel uncomfortable or uneasy?Looking in the mirror doesn't make me distressed, but I do feel grotesque despite knowing I'm conventionally good looking. I do dress masc, but leaning androgynous, so I have little issues with that. Having to wear male formal wear is extremely uncomfortable though.>Does perceiving yourself as male make you feel lesser or subhuman?I do perceive myself as lesser and subhuman, but I can't tell whether that has anything to do with being male. At least I don't think being male is what causes me to perceive myself as such. Men aren't lesser simply for being men. >Does the idea of male aging scare you?Mostly yes, but so does the idea of female aging. There are some men who age gracefully, and I feel like I wouldn't hate to be like them at that age, but the same applies to some women. Most men age horribly though, and what scares me more is not aging as a man, but rather living my whole life as one. I can't tell whether I'd feel any different about living my life as a woman though.Also, I'm the op and >>41030545 is not me. Thanks for the long reply and questions
>>41029955Desribe your height, physique.
>>41030682I have hobbies and a friend group consisting of only neurotypical cis women, so this isn't something I have to worry about
>>41030707176 cm tall (5'9"). Massive shoulders (45cm, almost 18" bideltoid) and back because I thought the only way of looking good as a man was by working out. Approximately 85cm, 33,5" underbust, but a big part of the measurement is because of my lats. Unusually wide hips giving me a 0.75 whr. Big man hands (20cm x 10cm, 7.8" x 3.9"), but luckily not overly thick fingers. Huge head.Overall hon proportions, except maybe hips
>>41029955Love the new gen of troons trying to gatekeep being trans like it’s a fucking tv show they’ve become obsessed with Focus on figuring yourself out, try minor adjustments before any commitment to hrt. Practice light make up, try feminine clothing. Take some pictures, try hair styles.If after all that you feel like you want to pursue medical transition that’s a route, if you decide you’ve had the experience in your own way and you didn’t feel like it made anything better then I’d say focus on building hobbies/identity outside of gender. If later on you feel like you made a mistake you can always try again, once you start hrt whatever changes you get will be semi-permanent (sterilisation, breast growth(they can shrink, but won’t completely disappear without medical intervention) So if you are currently having doubts, my suggestion as above is focus on yourself for a while without the idea of transition, try the minor adjustments I mentioned (even like using a new preferred name with yourself outloud, with friends)Good luck anon!
>>41030836Jesus christ man, I was expecting the answer to be like "tall, going to the gym", I think you're just autistic, dunno wear some femboy clothes and see what happens.
>>41030885>Practice light make up, try feminine clothing. Take some pictures, try hair styles.I've tried all of this, and it only made me feel absolutely miserable. Trying mascara almost gave me a panic attack because it highlighted my browbone, feminine clothing looks bad on my huge and muscly body. No hairstyle I've tried ever looked good because of my huge head and face, and I've also tried basically everything to no avail to get rid of my weird frizz, since I have very wavy hair. >my suggestion as above is focus on yourself for a whileI would, but anything and everything just fills me with despair, since I'm completely unable to truly enjoy anything I do. I'm suspicious that I'm actually very dissociated, since I can barely even feel any emotion, nor do I ever feel like I am the person I portray myself as. Focusing on "myself" feels oxymoronic, since I don't know who that person is to begin with
>>41030929This is the tranny board. What did you expect? I've been lurking here for a long while, and the only times someone is asked to describe themselves, it's just to know how much of a hon they are
>>41030426>>41030495duality of /tttt/
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>>41030694How would you describe your mental image of yourself? Is it clear or fuzzy and weird? If you've never taken the time to imagine yourself as a woman (like realistically what you'd like) you should do that and see how it feels mentally. If it feels clearer or more comfortable when you do, start to try and picture the girl you doing things you do day to day and see how they feel mentally. Personally, I had a lot of conflict with how I perceived myself until I just accepted I was a tranny. Being seeing as a dominant or parental man seemed awful and disgusting but being seen as a dominant and motherly woman feels amazing
>>41030544FUCK
>>41030836Getting bonepilled is... ahem... very typically trans. Especially to the degree you are.
>>41032234>How would you describe your mental image of yourself? Is it clear or fuzzy and weird?I know how I look like and how I'm perceived, but when it comes to a mental image of my "self", then I have none. There's just an empty white room without doors. >If you've never taken the time to imagine yourself as a woman (like realistically what you'd like) you should do that and see how it feels mentallyI've tried, but my imagination is so insanely weak that I can only think in emotionless and detached abstract concepts. I've tried to gleam any sort of emotion from this, but I simply can't. All I know is that I don't like imagining myself as the person I am now, and that includes being a man.>Being seeing as a dominant or parental man seemed awful and disgustingThis is very relatable. It's stomach turning whenever someone implies this is how they see me
>>41032251Dunno. I got bonepilled only because I wanted to remind myself that I am a man no matter what
>>41029955Don't worry. All men hate being a man to some extent
>>41032769And I hate you. Women are awesome
>>41029955>Do I hate my birth sex because of the "I hate my birth sex" disorder, or do I do it because of a secret, more sinister, reason?
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