Sorry if this seems a bit crass, but why can't fem gay men who only want masculine men just date ultra-masculine gay and bi dudes without going to the effort of transitioning?
is that a real question or another one of the 20 or so identical shitposts we've had over the last 24 hours
>>41035623Transgenderism is rooted in homophobia
>>41035628real question! I read a post by someone who said they were basically a gay man but on hrt but they only wanted masculine men so I was wondering how it got to that. Like, did all the masculine men reject you when you weren't taking hrt? It just seems insane to me hrt is this magic juice that makes ultra-masculine men ok with you being amab who wouldn't be otherwise.
>>41035637huh?
>>41035623well being a femgay is hard anyway, you don't fit into society well, but you certainly can as a straight feminine woman.but it's also a numbers game on the dating sidethere are a lot more straight men and even though only a few percent would fuck a tranny it adds up to a lot more than the number of masculine gaysvery few gays are truly masculine btw, we are all feminine to some degree by virtue of even being gay, so if you want a truly masc guy's cock inside you you probably need to fem out
>>41035876but women aren't even straight themselves
>>41035888don't confuse attention seeking bandwagoning foids for actual data
>>41035623I mean bottom gays already do pretty much try everything to let you know they like dick in their butt. Growing out their hair, being slender, doing gay voice, etc.
>>41035897but it was literally a study about implicit attraction, i.e. the whole point being they couldn't fake it for attention
>>41035903reminder that nearly all psychology is just straight up garbage and junk science
>>41035908does that include brain scan studies?
>>41035914yes garbage psychology does include brain scan studiesbrain scan studies to correlate with "transgender" or "depression" are no more valid than brain scan studies to correlate with "evil spirit possession"oh, they also managed to get statistically significant brain scan results from a dead fish
>>41035926Do trans women act like women?
>>41035949only the husses, obviously, and even they act more like hypersexual gay men in some ways (because they had a big blast of T even tho they got feminized in the womb)nobody acts less like a woman than an AGP tranny, ironically enough
>>41035638Okay then heres a real answer- Gays and trannies are different things. Fem gays dont transition, and they're only about 10% of actual gays, and ironically masc gays actually want other mascs so fem guys have a supprisingly hard time finding dudes. Transitioning (if you want gays) actually makes your odds worse not betterTrannies transition because they hate their bodies basically, getting laid isnt really the point. They have to date bis and straights, which is a crapshoot. Theres a reason we (gays) often avoid bis altogether
>>41035956womb feminization is less junk science than brain scan studies?
>>41035740>>41035922
>>41035964>Fem gays dont transitionof course they do you retardthat's why most cultures don't even have a concept of being gay, if you're a feminine man you take a woman's role and get fucked by menstop spewing ignorance>>41035974we can prove womb feminization is a thing, we've done it to rats and mice, and conditions where the womb hormone balance gets fucked up provably lead to masc lesbians in girls
>>41035992>we can prove womb feminization is a thing,you can't prove it makes people gay which is what you are implying
>>41035623gaypipo work out too much and take too many steroids
>>41035999we can actuallyit's a thing in animal models and we have the same neurobiologyin humans, adrenal hyperplasia or high T in the womb produces a lot of masc butch lesbians and girls who poon outand we have actual legit brain scan studies showing gays and lesbians are opposite sex brained
>>41036007no, you can't, you just like it because its a pat explanation for a complex phenomenon that's controversialyou cannot explain specifically how hormones would change a non gay person to gay
>>41035999>>41036007and apart from that it's just obvious that gays are opposite sex brainedyou don't need any scientific studies at all, just to have actually met gay people, so no wonder trannies aren't aware of it because you're all homophobic as fuck
>>41036013>its just obvious>common sense gun controlhow about disarming the political elites, instead?
>>41036010>you cannot explain specifically how hormones would change a non gay person to gaythey don't change a non gay person to gay, they make gay people, just like they make straight peoplethe development of sexually differentiated neural circuits for attraction is controlled by hormones in the womb> its a pat explanation for a complex phenomenon that's controversialit's not controversial, you just don't like it because it undermines the tranny claim to have opposite sex brainsit's a simple switch, if you have T in the womb you like women, if you have E you like men
>>41036022>they make gay peoplewith the implication that WITHOUT those hormones being unusual, they would be a normal straight fetus
>>41036018americans should be banned
>>41035992>stop spewing ignorancehttps://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=gay+dating+preference&btnG=#d=gs_qabs&t=1757844677233&u=%23p%3DnpEvY-txaCYJRead dumbass
>>41036029yes, of course that's the implicationyou could cure homosexuality if you corrected the hormone balance at the appropriate timeon the other hand you could also induce it, so, be careful what you wish for
>>41036037so then explain how the hormones turn a straight fetus gay
>>41036042they don't though?the fetus has neural circuits which aren't sexually differentiated before a certain point
>>41036046>genetics do nothingI hate people like you to my core. The amount of harmful misinformation you spread is staggering. All because it aligns with your internal bias.
>>41036067>genetics do nothingwhat the fuck are you on about retarddo you not think the Y chromosome and its hormone messengers are geneticswhat do you think hormones, like, bind toactually sorry i've just realized i'm probably speaking to some fucking unemployed pot smoking tranny high school dropout who doesnt know what the fuck a gene is, forget the whole conversation
>>41036067>using "genetics" as a sciency-sounding substitute for aristotelean "essence"many such cases!
>>41036082genetics determine if you are gay or not, it isn't caused or affected by hormones, this is a crutch to imply all fetuses are made straight and gayness isn't heritable
>>41036106Why are younger siblings more likely to be gay? Shouldnt pure genetics be random?
>>41036108>Shouldnt pure genetics be random?no?
>>41036116okay ill bite - by what mechanism are genetics made non-random? be detailed and specific
>>41036127can you just admit you are homophobic and you don't care about science you just want to give reasons conversion therapy might work
>>41036108>Shouldnt pure genetics be random?have you ever taken highschool biology?no and no
>>41036196so >>41036127
>>41036423been a while since I took biology
