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for relationships between trans men & trans women

qott1: what does your ideal relationship look like?

qott2: piv...? yes or fvck no or maybe or please god yes please i need it
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>>41037252
its back :)
>1
idk, i've never been in a relationship so other than someone who is monogamous and loves me for me i got no clue.
>2
maybe. my (ftm) vagina is worthless and doesnt work though
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>qott1
It's gonna sound cliche but someone I don't feel I have to perform for. Although I love to perform.
>qott2
I wouldn't want to be touched during sex.
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>>41037252
bruh they weren't st4t. clyde got raped in prison and never came to terms with it. bonnie and clyde didn't have sex
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>>41037738
not true bonnie plapped the fuck outta clyde
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>>41037252
>1
The one I have now
>2
I have consoomed too much futa on male not to be into it

How we all doing st4t? Fun weekend?
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>>41037252
Qott:
Cozy, sweet, domestic, twin fantasy
Qott2:
Probably not
>>41037738
I dont think theyre claiming this, they just fit the archetypes
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All i want is for someone to hold after i come home from work at 4 am
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>qott1
someone who generally gets me

>qott2
I actually am not really dysphoric about having a vag and would become a hermaphrodite over a male if given the opportunity (not enough for me to sacrifice UL for though) but I get basically nothing out of it unless I go out of my way to edge like cisms struggling to get prostate orgasms so probably not
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>>41037252
>qott1
a woman who is there for me and makes me happy .
>qott2
no. take your psyllium husk
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>>41037252
>1
My ideal relationship would be with a girl who is a little bit pretentious and dramatic but self aware about it, traumatized but healed/semi-healed, autistic levels of pattern recognition, curious, reflective, and likes to make fun of things with me including ourselves. Funny or at least finds me funny. I'm in a room full of people with my gf, a room that neither of us want to be in, like thanksgiving with her family that she doesn't particularly get along with or an annoying friend's birthday party that she felt obligated to attend & dragged me along for moral support. Someone in that room says something that we find to be ridiculous or out of touch or completely lacking self awareness or that unknowingly relates to some inside joke we have. I go to shoot my girlfriend a look that silently acknowledges the comedic value in whatever was just said, and before I even turn to look at her I have butterflies in my stomach because I know she'll already be looking at me with the same exact look, because she's having the same exact thought, and I know this of her and she knows this of me because we know each other as much as two people can, and we both experience that whole thought process in a split second as the instinct to seek each other out triggers, and we're cut from the same abashedly smug cloth, and our eyes meet and and we experience the closest thing to telepathy that I can think of. We do that a few times throughout the night before laughing & airing out our judgements on the drive home. We realize that all future uncomfortable family gatherings or annoying friend parties will now suck considerably less

>2
Yea I kind of need this like I need air and water which seems to be a dealbreaker for the few trans girls I've talked to
Why even live anymore
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>>41039715
based need giwtwm etc
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>>41039715
this sounds so perfect desu
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>>41039715
Congrats this is the best post in a long time
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>>41037252
>qott1
the one i'm in now :) she is so perfectly silly like me
>qott2
st4t piv is the only reason an ftm should have a dick in them.
t. ftm 23
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>>41037252
>1
Mine
>2
Yeah I let her hit my man cunt
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good night :)
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>>41039715
this made me feel all fuzzy and tingly and stuff.............. discord?
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I kinda wanna move somewhere rural again. City life just sucks. it'd be sick to live in a country where smaller rural cities were still on the rail system
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bump
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dead gen :/
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>>41037252
Kinda wholesome gen… I think.
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>>41037252
piv is so disgusting i dont understand how any st4t relationship could ever do that
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>>41037252
my imaginary tupla bf is so sweet. we just spent the whole day watching YouTube together, it was so cool. I'm so glad he doesn't have to leave me, and we can spend time together 24/7.
I'm going to try to go to sleep and meet him again in my dreams. st4t is so fucking cool.
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>>41048170
You are of a weak mind and heart
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>>41048927
there is evil inside of you
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>>41049950
The only thing inside of me is........
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bump !
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>>41037252
Ideal relationship is me doing everything I can do for my girl and she loves me back and stuff.

And hell nah to PIV, if you even suggest it it's over.
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>>41048170
I think the mature conclusion is just that it's ppls own private lives and they should do whatever they want
t. piv not doer
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>>41048170
i think piv should be a government mandate for all st4t couples
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>1
She gotta be smart, sassy, pretty (I'm not picky when it comes to this one, average would be fine too) and just generally understand me/not judge my autism.
>2
Never did it but the idea gets me a bit hot and bothered ngl... So I'm not opposed to trying.
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bumpp
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>>41037252

> 1
Older, hung femdom that takes advantage of me financially and emotionally, but still loves me deep down.

> 2
PLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLAPPLAPPLAP

t. khhv shota
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>>41054665
hes so perfect he's even into piss
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bump
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Keep the thread alive challenge
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Good morning everyone
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the desire for piv manifests in most people very similarly to demonic possession or homicidal urges. its sinister and evil and deeply unnerving.
liking piv is the biggest red flag someone could ever have.
obviously you cant control what other people do but you need to maintain awareness.
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41059709
Whatever incel
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I love being a futa and putting my penis inside of people
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>>41060414
God bless you>>41059511
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I love my transgender boyfriend
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I wish I was a shota but im too fat!
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>>41059709
TRVKE
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>>41059709
Hail Satan and fuck my mancunt!
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Most trans people that have been transitioning for a while just use whatever they have. What else are you suppose to do? No sex whatsoever for the rest of your life?
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>>41062264
>What else are you supposed to do? No sex whatsoever for the rest of your life?
exactly
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>>41062264
there are various ways to have sex without doing piv.
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>>41063698
Ok but what if PIV feels good for someone, doesn't make it demonic or whatever the fuck you're spewing
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>>41063698
I don't care that you're an incel, go away
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>>41062264
???!?!?!?!?!!? WHO ARE YOU WHY DO YOU HAVE STRAY FAN ART?!?!?!? Do I know u and u saved it from me or are u just incredibly based??!?!?!?!? WHAT THE FUCK
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>>41062070
just starve my nigga how hard can it be
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>>41064836
I have a condition that makes me feel like im starving already even when im not. It hurts a lot until I eat and then it flares back up sooner than I need to eat again. It hurts and if I dont eat i feel like im going to throw up.
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>>41065264
eat veggies all day then
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>>41065264
pop some painkillers
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>>41066585
Doctors told me to take less painkillers
>>41065292
Tbh not a bad idea i do like carrots and peas i think a few baby carrots every hour would probably help keep the discomfort at bay.
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if i dont get a trans girlfriend soon i will kill myself
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>>41068055
literally just find one oh my fucking god. look at every single fucking one of these threads.
>mtf posts
silence.
>ftm posts
instant flood of responses
I don't believe in mra or anything but come the fuck on foids will always have options
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>>41037252
I'm impressed that this general keeps getting revived even though it rarely ever hits bump limit. I guess the demand is just that high even though participants are low?
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>>41068806
>instant flood of responses
Are you living in another world
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I'm sad :( Bf is going to Rome to see his brother get married this week. We've only been together for 2 months so I know I shouldn't be all clingy, but I worry he won't be able to text or call while there.
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41068806
Amongst autistic cissoids, it tends to be women who initiate
>>41064743
I am a lover of yaoi and cats. Naturally I would have ended up with Stray yaoi fan art in my collection. But also, I stole it from you since you posted it somewhere in a yaoi channel
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>>41068806
where are you seeing this instant flood of responses??
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>Check tagmap
>All the guys are into bl
LOLLLLLLLL
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>>41071989
Hhh yaoi loving pervert st4t boyfriend... i could die happy.
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>>41072998
I always enjoyed the AHE ones as well but they will leave you for a normal bloke later down the line
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>1
i fantasize about the domestic heteronormative white picket fence type deal... finding a girl who is boymoding/butch as a defense mechanism and allowing her to feel secure in her femininity... taming her degeneracy (god knows i need help with that too) and seeing her transform into the perfect wife... sigh

>2
yees but i'm non[pre]-hrt so that might have something to do with it. i like topping but somehow it makes me more dysphoric because it's sensationless, idk if this is relatable to anyone else
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>>41073705
Wtf get on hormones retard
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>q1
gotta be chill to balance my neuroses
>q2
piv with a girl would be hot but im halfway asexual so i could do without it too
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>>41073721
who am i to Destroy Beauty
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>>41073755
dubs... vindicated once again
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>>41073755
What does this mean
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Where do I apply for a ftm bf?
There is a 80% chance I'm going to be shorter than any given ftm and I have comparatively large breasts as far as mtfs go, so I think I have some good selling points.
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>>41037252
>what does your ideal relationship look like?
I don‘t even know anymore. Originally, I wanted to date cis women or maybe femreppers. Only started to consider trans women recently. Ideally she‘d be submissive and a bit masochistic because that‘s what I‘m into and it‘d be sad if we weren‘t compatible.
>piv...? yes or fvck no or maybe or please god yes please i need it
It‘s a no. I don‘t experience much bottom dysphoria or anything, I‘m simply completely uninterested
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>>41073870
testosterone is a destructive agent to succumb to ftm transition is to succumb to death drive
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>>41054665
You‘re not interested in other trans men, right? Shame, you sound really cute
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>>41073894
Would you date a non-HRT trans woman with facial hairs that's slowly morphing into an old man? No of fucking course not, now apply the inverse to yourself and take the T
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>>41073907
>would you date a non-HRT trans woman
hold on now, i've done my time. also i dont regret it! dont talk about those beautiful angels that way.

in any case we all know that these situations are nontransmutable. androphilia eludes me on a conceptual level but either way, sadly i know the value of my current body
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>qott1
Cute silly girl who is a little bit cynical. Enough to relate to me, but not enough to adopt a misanthropic lifestyle. Likes going out to concerts, art shows, comedy shows, movies, going on trips, etc. Not a complete homebody. Someone who is okay with simply enjoying each other's company and doesn't perceive silence or inaction as awkward.

>qott2
Yeah, I just like the closeness and intimacy of it. I still like to be more dominant or in control during sex even if I'm the one being penetrated. I don't really view it as a "feminine" act. Just two people using what they have to make each other feel good. I still want to fuck her too though.
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>>41074433
For arguments sake, lets assume that there was a trans girl who was into st4t and was just like what you said you were into.
Would you still be interested if she had really bad bottom dysphoria and piv were totally off the table?
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>>41074494
Well I've only been in one sexual relationship, and piv was a part of it, and it is something I enjoy. I'm not entirely sure if I'd be okay going without it forever, but I'm also not sexually experienced at all. I would definitely be interested in pursuing her & seeing how it goes; it wouldn't be a dealbreaker as far as I know myself right now. Very centrist answer, I know



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