I'm a lesbian, and I don't believe anyone needs to take cross sex hormones.
You're a beta male that gets no pussy
>>41046478my cervix says otherwise
>>41046537ඞamongus
>>41046426I’m also a lesbian can we kiss and just ignore the troons?
>>41046554prove it, show me your unscarred labia
>>41046565You can’t post porn here transbian
>>41046426Of course you're femme4femme. The usual suspects.
>>41046583link to a catbox
>>41046590What in the flying heck is wrong with being a lipstick4lipstick lesbian?
>>41046565Only if you show me yours first : ) unironically would consider it if I actually thought you were a real girl. But I know you’re not.
>>41046537You mean your gonads
9/10 op is probably not a real lesbian. Some days I think I’m the only actual lesbian on this stupid fucking board.
>>41046645prove it
>>41046426im bisexual but prefer men
>>41046647I only show my tits and bits to girls anon. I literally just said that.
>>41046654I'm not a girl, I'm a woman. I wasn't a girl recently. I'm actually over 40. Trans people built up a lot of resentment with lesbians, especially I have some bulldyke friends who are even older than me and they just scowl if you mention trannies.
>>41046426a guy posted this
You can't be a lesbian with XY chromosomes.
>>41046660Are you the California girl that used to post in Clg? I posted there off and on, but never consistently and kind of stopped posting all together. Idk how I feel about everything know. I kinda keep to myself and might end up dating an mtf because I’m a self hating lesbian that lokes the idea of having a heterosexual passing relationship and all the dykes my age transitioned… If you have any 40 bull dyke friends who would be interested in some 30yo fem tomboy I’d drive cross country to meet them. I’m so lonely.
>>41046660Sorry, California woman.
>>41046690I'm British. I actually was raised in Florida, but I moved to the UK for University, and never left.
>>41046701Ah, nvm. There was a nice older lesbian in Clg that used to chat with me a bit but said our age gap was too much for her. I wish we had an active LGB presence in the U.S. like they do in the U.K.
>>41046701there is no way 40 year old cis lesbians are using this site. they are too well adjusted
>>41046755The only cis lesbians that are using this site are the ones that have been on here since the early 2000s
>>41046701Ah, damn I meant ftm. I always get the terminology confused. I’m logging off because I can’t type coherently, but it’s nice knowing I’m not the only one on here.
>>410467554chan is millennial culture
>>41046755>they are too well adjustednot the ones I know, lots of neurotic people on this earth >>41046709The UK is a strange mix of comfy and terrifying but I'd rather not live anywhere else.
i cant fathom cis lesbians in their 40s being anti-trans genuinely every parent-aged cis lesbian i know in real life is always nice as long as people are nice back, protective and supportive, my lesbian aunt was the person without whom i would probably not have transitioned at all
>>41046832you met them irl and this is 4chan
>>41046832people might be nice to your face, but they don't think a bloke who saves his body is a female
>>41046880i can tell the difference between people being nice to me and people genuinely being open and warm-hearted or liking me most of the time.and as long as someone genuinely likes me and treats me as female, not bringing up my transness, why would i care where exactly they place me in their head?besides, i'm stealth atp anyway so it plays a smaller and smaller part in my everyday life
>>41046941>autistic trannies>accurate perceptions
>>41046947i'm not autistic
>>41046959lol, sure
>>41047074do i need to wear ugly amazon basics skirts thigh highs walk around with my blahaj and be severely autistic for you to accept me as a trans woman
>>41047088even mild autism can alter the accuracy of your perceptionsalso, do they make "luxury" tranny socks?
>>41047099what are luxury tranny socks
why? what i read in op is>I'm [not trans], and I don't [understand what it means to be trans]
but i really enjoy taking them
>>41046426cis lesbians are the weakest link
>>41047129cis lesbians are probably the most supportive demographic of trans people besides trans people. they have always stuck up for the community more than anyone. i will not allow slander
>>41047129Naw. If they faggots were running the show instead of the scissor sisters NAMbLA would still exist.
>>41047131lol look at the thread you are in lilith
>>41047131>cis lesbians are probably the most supportive demographic of trans peopleyou have never had a conversation with women where a man wasn't present and nobody was recording or watching >>41047128the harm you cause to others by taking them outweighs that
>>41047151hey, hey, don't skip me friend >>41047125
>>41047151what harm do i cause to others?
>>41047151plenty
>>41046426ok. I don't care about the opinions of randos who I will never meet.
>>41047160you impose girlcocks on lesbians, and reduce femaleness to chemical castration and simply being a weakened male>>41047158>bro you just don't get it I feel female inside
lesbians, i would like to understand it better1. what happened to you that made you a lesbian?2. did you hang out with boys in school? did you talk to boys at all?3. what do men evoke in you? do you just ignore their existence?4. are you able to form emotional connections with men?
>>41047179>>bro you just don't get it I feel female insidethat is not at all what i said and for the record i don't feel "female" at all. i don't even feel like a woman (qv my reading of your post that you don't understand trans people). i'm trying to communicate with you here, honestly.
Girls are gross ew
>>41047179>"reduce femaleness to">no recognition of the concept being a product of patriarchy in the first place and entirely socially constructed BY MENthis species really is 6 sigma below the galactic minimum standard huh. no wonder the aliens only come to probe our butts
Okay? I mean the only thing anyone actually needs is food and water, but like why not just let people do what they want as long as it isn't harming others?
>>41047179>you impose girlcocks on lesbiansthe only times i involve myself with women is when they approach me and if they know im trans. though 99% of the time i only date men>and reduce femaleness to chemical castration and simply being a weakened maleidk i am just myself and other people think i am female. so really its other people doing that if this is your framing
>>41046755they're too busy hopping on dick and trying to get pregnant>>41046690>self hating hecking lesbianwhy do homophilic-identifying retards love glorifying their suffering so much? You aren't the second coming of christ bitch, chill out and just do what makes you happy
>>41046783from the ftm councilhope you get raped stupid faggot nobody wants your expired pussy you will die alone>>41047179>b-bro you dont get it it doesnt heckin matter that i was raped my orientation of blind screeching hatred against anything male is totally real!! believe me!
>>41047305I have never been raped, and I don't hate males - just trannies.
>>41047320is this perhaps because you choose only to engage in dishonest discussion?
>>41046537Written by huge rapehon hands
>>41047756my hands are dainty and delicate
Attractive lesbians annoy me because they're just doing it to titillate men. Real lesbians are fat and ugly, which proves they aren't into the male gaze, those are the rules don't hate me for it.
>>41047885real lesbians vary from hot and thin to fat and uglythey are not a monolith
>>41047277taking hrt is normalizing the belief that feminized men are women and can be lesbians
>>41048452so?
>>41047885women like hot women too
i don't see why you would doubt that some people have severe distress over features that match their birth sex and that these people haven't been able to get relief without changing them
>>41048501it's because it's a dumb-assed bait thread and they aren't actually a confused person arguing in good faith or wanting their mind changed
>>41048479men can't be or become lesbians
>>41048531
>>41048501because the supposed distress allows them to do things they cannot justify otherwise
>>41048635allows them to take cross-sex hormones? which very reasonably comes from wanting to rectify that distress? or are you talking about something else
>>41048647yeah, there's no need for that, it's just being sexist and hurting your bodyits ok to cum and get horny and all that shit, you don't need to wrap your sexuality in castration and gender identity to be happyit causes me more intense distress when you take hrt
>>41048681it's good that you feel intense distress
>>41048717only when you take hrt, it vanishes when you stop
>>41046426the same way nobody "needs" glasses. hrt can drastically improve quality of life for dysphorics and thats a good reason to take it.
>>41048821glasses help society, men taking hrt divides and weakens ityou are telling people their bodies are wrong, I don't believe that
>>41048800so like, once every five days? that's nothing lmao your life is probably easy as af
>>41048830women lead harder lives than men
>>41048681>i should martyr because of a big spook in my mind telling me its bad to not tohaesniggers = feminazis = christcucks
>>41048827im not telling anyone their body is wrong. they are telling me that and begging for hrt. also by allowing invalids whit poor eyesight to reproduce you are exasperating reliance on external correction measures weakening society.
>>41048846if someone needs to take hrt, you are implicitly saying their otherwise body is wrong and functioning incorrectly
>>41048853if someone needs glasses you are implicitly saying their body is wrong and functioning incorrectly
>>41048681none of that answers my question
>>41048836good thing your a large white man who looks like drew carey irl
>>41048861yeah, so part of normal human intelligence is differentiating real problems from hysteria caused by poor social conditions
>>41048873why is one real and the other hysterics? can bodies be wrong and then fixed with medicine or are our bodies perfect the way god made us?
>>41047196from a masc1. was born2. yes, have and have had male friends most of my life3. extremely situational4. yes, platonically
>>41048880needing glasses is real, taking cross sex hormones is a hysteria caused by a believe that men can only look or act in certain ways
>>41048886>needing glasses is realwould they die without their glasses?
>>41047885attractive lesbians are actually doing it for me, to get eaten out crazy-style
>>41048897no, but their functionality would be impaired down to a basic levelI think if trans people really are that suicidal, we should give them a big dose of morphine, not hormones.
>>41048914> if trans people are suicidal we should just kill them.again why not kill everyone with glasses so that the perfect sighted ubermench can more swiftly come about?
>>41048886i could somewhat agree with this viewpoint, but the problem is we can't truly know for sure because there is no genderless society on earth we could use as a reference group. so sex and gender roles/presentation are constantly conflated in our minds.
No woman needs to kiss another woman but it may be permissible if both women are hot
>>41048928because people with glasses aren't schizophrenic
>>41048914>no, but their functionality would be impaired down to a basic levelDoesn't sound any more real than gender dysphoria. I think you're just trying to groom people into your cult so they can make money off of getting laser eye surgery and glasses for the rest of people's lives.
>>41048938gender roles should be abolished completely, then nobody will want to take hormones in the first place
>>41048938>i could somewhat agree with a retarded viewpoint
>>41048943they are just doing it for attention. can you prove that they cannot see clearly? are you one of these glasses wearing empathy demanders? captured by big optometric lining their pockets. why would i take your word that glasses wearers are not schizophrenic?
>>41048972damn i guess you're right. sorry for fighting with you for so long.
>>41048964Even if thay were true, and it's not, why does that mean we have to deny care to trans people right now? IMO, that means you have an obligation to do everything you can to abolish gender roles and in tje meantime, let people transition anyway.
>>41048983its easy to run circles around dumbass bigots <3
>>41048965okay, anything of substance to add?
>>41049010no
>>41048964do you think trannies take hormones for purely social changes? there would still exist those who exhibit physical & emotional stress from their physical state of being?
>>41049069that's what i >>41048938 am wondering about. there's no way in our present society that we can know for sure that physical dysphoria isn't a result of social dysphoria. i wonder if gender as a whole was abolished, if transsexualism would still occur.
>>41049069yes, I think in freer social conditions there would be no need or urge to take them to begin with your physical state of being is determined by social conditionsif you are unhappy with how others treat you, its easier to change your own body, than how society treats others
>>41049192>i wonder if gender as a whole was abolished, if transsexualism would still occur.nope
>>41046426Nobody wants to listen to your bullshit you boring bitch.
>>41049794lesbians are some of the most fascinating women I've had the joy of listening to
>>41049880nta but i try not to let the terf nonsense on this board color my opinions of irl lesbians. they're mostly fucking based. i remember my bf and i were taking the long point shuttle a couple years ago. we and this lesbian couple were the only queers on the shuttle, with like 3 cishet couples. the captain starts talking about great white behavior and the cishet women all start going "awwwwe da poor wittwe babby sealseals." before i can even breath the lesbians are both groaning and i hear one of them go "oh, fuck." under her breath. so i obviously speak up and i'm like "sharks gotta eat too." they both smiled and turned and the four of us had a nice conversation about how straight women are fucking annoying
>>41049928what is the long point shuttle?
>>41049949in provincetown, MA. it's the shuttle to the tip of cape cod. which we must take bc we are too poor to be boatfags
>>41049880Who gives a fuck what some neurotic whores think? OP is a deranged terf and ugly as fuck. Rape all lesbians.
>>41049928is this the best conversation lesbians have to offer?
>>41049962you mean from boston? I visited briefly as a teenseems nice, a bit snooty at least on the actual cape part itself
>>41046755I'm a few years away from 40 but I've been on the boards since the beginning.
>>41051188you'll be here soon enough
>>41049970my cousin and her wife are very knowledgeable people>>41049975no it's just a guy and his son in ptown who will take you on their boat to the tippety-tip of cape cod. most of cape cod is super waspy (hyannis etc.), and ptown has become full of rich assholes, but my bf and i normally tent and find cool, less rich people to hang out with
>>41051243>normally tent2crazy4me
>>41051698tenting is 1/10th the cost of renting the cheapest apartment. we couldn't afford to go if we didn't. but, yeah, i agree. getting a bit old for it myself
>>41051779I was uh looking on airbnb and these nibbas want nearly 100 a night for "glamping" with a camp toilet. I do roomshares. Some of the hosts are gay/lez and that's always nice.
>>41051823we normally pay $55/night for a campsite. it is very expensive for just camping, yes. ptown is queer american peninsular ibiza
>>41046426I agree
>>41051854just over 90 a night for my roomshare but that includes a real bed, access to their kitchen (some roomshares DONT give you access to their kitchen but you can filter those out, which is mildly annoying), normal bathroom with shower, and a washer dryerI'm sharing a second floor bathroom with another woman, which is fine. You can get cheaper on airbnb, but not without accepting a greater level of sketchy problems or location.
Always the fem4fems being annoying bitches. How exactly is being a lesbian relevant to your opinion on cross-sex hormones?