What makes cis women so violently anti-trans?
>>41047345> Malebrained> Usually porn-addicted> Contrast between female bone density vs male> Intrusive, attention seekersEtc, etc, etc...
>>41047345I saw a few months ago someone said cis women only believe in what's popular, and only state shit as a mean of getting social validation. Now I don't fully believe this applies to ALL cis women, but it definitely applies to transphobic cis women.Ask those same cissiods what they think of trannies in 2019 - 2020, I bet it's they would say they're very welcoming of trans women.
>>41047370i always felt weird about trans women, same with drag queens, both feel a bit insulting and mockery of women. i still don't want to you to die or anything like that. i just think transgenders can be a bit creepy.
>>41047389you're making harsh judgements without knowing who these people are.
>>41047345The transbians. They're the cause of all the transphobia, with their rapehon behaviour.
>>41047412i spend time with them
transwomen in the abstract might slightly inconvenience them and so you are literally as bad as a man that violently rapes random woman on the street, in fact cis women can't even distinguish between inconveniences and being violently raped and cummed in by marauding serial rapists. Also they are completely immune violent reprisal for their behaviour so they can be as dialectically violent as they like, they won't have their heads smashed in like men would. Just imagine women are spoiled toddlers with the entirety of society geared toward their whims and whimsies and their behaviour makes a lot more sense.
>>41047345cis women were cool with trannies back when you girls were ugly. many of you didn't even take hrt or started in your 30s, were half bald, had conetits and generally looked hideous.things started to change with the arrival of genz gigapassoids, who looked cuter than cis women in each and every aspect.that's when women started to really feel threatened. men preferred trans women to cis women, and cissies started having trouble finding a bf to date or to marry, why would men tolerate them and their hideous girly hobbies when trannies shared many of their hobbies and were hotter in general?who would want to spend an entire saturday standing around while your cis gf is shopping when you could be playing vidia and trading blowjobs?
>>41047345Trans women
>>41047466Im happy that I only like other women and trans men and not what ever you are trying to portray here
>>41047465this is the reason I don't have friends. everyones a snake who thinks little of each other. You hang around trans women, yet you feel creeped out by them? That's crazy to me, and another reminder of why people are generally best being avoided.
>>41047477Where are all these cute trans girls that mog cis women and why do I keep seeing only abominations and giant sized low mids
>>41047519because you only browse twitter instead of going outside and touching grass
>>41047521I don't see them anywhere. I think you are lying to make yourself feel better cause women don't accept you
>>41047540I'm not a tranny. I'm a cis man. I joined my college's LGBT club and it was full of cute girls. Many people there hated me because I joined a LGBT group to get into a straight relationship, but it worked out in the end
>>41047389Real women make a mockery of women way more than trannies do
>>41047553you joined the LGBT club to chase?? i have to respect the hustle>>41047345i don't even care about what's going on in this thread i just can't believe the picrel is agp L and hsts light
>>41047345they are afraid we are gonna steal all the cute men from themand that is valid
>>41047553>>41048126I think you are homosexual, most men are not. Only gamps get turned on by trans women more than cis and they are estrogenized males preferring homo/bisexuals.
>>41048150yeah keep telling them that so they do not genocide usgood job soldier of western democracy
>>41047553>straight relationship.Male x male is homosexual. You were right to joing lgbt club my friend
>>41048150what the fuck are you on about? normal people don't talk like this.
>>41047566Its time to admit that you don't like women and you prefer men.
>>41048164It means that you are gay, to make it simple. You prefer males over females.
>>41047345Feminist, They have come to realize that women will never be men, in society. So these feminist violently lash out at everyone. It's Why most people stay away from feminist, because they are violent.
>>41048182oh no you're confused, I'm a trans woman lol
>>41047477you must be trans yourself or a gay man to have these revenge fantasies. thailand has trans and gay acceptance and hrt for kids yet the country has not turned full gay or do men there prefer trans women even tho it would be totally ok in the minds of most people>>41048214once gender affirming care is perfected, all women will become men.
>>41047389 An women in the workplace is also a mockery, women in the military are a mockery, women get grants, tax breaks, lower bills, most women are not feminist and can adapt but most get violent starting with verbal, then finding someone to do the assault if not they do the assault themselves. It's why they stopped funding women and DEI in the USA.Example of feminist and their lies pic related
>>41047345I'm getting into some history that people usually prefer to gloss over to explain this, but basically the truth is that cis women who lead 'conventional' lives (marry a husband, take on a greater childcare burden, etc) become very bitter and resentful of women who don't, as well as faggots. They then vote for the most depraved and evil fascism imaginable in order to watch the people they resent get 'put in their place.' This is actually how Hitler really came to power, women were the majority of the electorate in Weimar Germany and without millions of seething protestant wives all voting Nazi to own those jezebels and sodomites in Berlin, even the modest 35% result that wound up putting Hitler in power would have been impossible. That's why nobody ever talks about it, it's sort of embarrassing for everyone involved. It's embarrassing for women collectively because women literally elected Hitler (huge L), it's embarrassing for Nazis because they had to rely on women's votes to win (huge L), and it's taboo for lefties to discuss because you sound like a raging misogynist toolbag when you explain this even though it's the truth.
>>41048171I prefer people who combine both sides in one. I guess I'm a gender centrist or something
>>41047412That's feminist, they do it to everyone.Best not to hire or have conversation with them. No more DEI so you don't have to interrupted during work.
>>41048243good that they can stop funding dei now as women make more money than men on averagefuture is female only imo
>>41047412Bigotry is also with feminist
>>41048257you like asexual blobs of flesh
>>41048252This does not make any sense as women vote for more pro trans parties and canditates
>>41048275True enough since I like people for their intellectual qualities more than the fleshy bits
>>41048287you like asexual blobs of mind
>>41048240 It doesn't matter it's a mental illness, these women have. They tend to get men to do violence. Feminist are mentally ill women.No one likes them, No group can rise because of them No work gets accomplished because they think they are entitled. Feminist are mentally ill women.Narcissistic, so stay away.
>>41048297the way a mind can inhabit flesh is an endlessly tantalizing mystery
>>41048257Right most women are like that. But the feminist are violent and want attention. So everyone thinks they are bigger than what they are. When feminist starts talking, leave , get away, and don't sponsor money. United States not feminist states
>>41048309i love feminists and I cannot wait them all to transition fully into males as gender affirming care is perfected and then them destroying the patriarchy from inside
>>41048269No it's a lie, more violent crimes, bigger bankruptcies, and incomplete projects. Feminist lie Feminist make women look bad. The feminist are so bad Hollywood movies are bombing with women in lead roles. Not that these women are feminist but feminist are being boycotted.
>>41048337I like Dworkin and Judith Butler
>>41048284Right but the feminist do more damage to everyone but themselves. Feminist are mentally ill lying women.
>>41048371You hate women. Feminists and communists saved women from years of slavery to men.
>>41048382 You like extreme religions and violence. Nothing wrong with your likes but remember Americans have the right to counter extremists. Equal right hooks have been happening all year. Mistakingly men though the woman was a transgender. How manly thinking. Or just what men did in the 80s. To feminist. Punch a Nazi, punch a feminist Same fascist idioligy
>>41048385Feminists are perfect. Thank you feminists
jealousy
>>41048442I don't hate women I hate feminist that are aggressive and violent. Play stupid games and find out Put your hands on someone and get an equal right. You're not women your feminist !
They feel threatened, they know Cis mean want the comfort and pleasure from a beautiful trans woman, i mean who else can do what a man wants without complaining?
>>41048459If someone is perfect, then something is wrong.
>>41048252Can you post some sources? I'm trying to make some anti-feminist scholarly work and this sounds way too good to pass up.
>>41048462Why would a woman be jelly of a temu version of woman? I get why you might think so as you wish to be a man but live sad life as an uncle tom pre pooner
>>41047345cis women are socially conditioned from birth to hate any moid that deviates from his assigned gender role and to always assume moids have the worst intentions possibleguy feels more comortable living as a woman = must be trying to get into our bathrooms and rape people
>>41048482A gay man. These cis men need to accept that they long to embrace another man.
>>41048486Narcissistic woman in society Mentally ill women in society Women killers Women child molesters Bull dyke and how to be dominant Why DEI failed and was unconstitutional.
>>41048497I think the problem is that most trans women are ugly and thus they are male caricature of a woman. Pretty youngshits are loved by cis girls as one of the women
>>41047345even as recently as february of this year, a majority of adults in the US supported anti-discrimination laws for trans people, with cis women being significantly more likely to support trans women than cis men. you couldn't possibly have an ulterior motive for begging this question, could you?
>>41048484Whats wrong is that we don't have more feminism
>>41048522I think it's bigots and mental health from feminist. Everyone is united except for some small extreme groups.
>>41048514Okay but, I meant like books or voting statistics from that era for women nazis. Sadly lived experience doesn't count as academic citation.
>>41048522lookism definitely factors into it as it does with everything
>>41048529I think trans women want cis women to hate them. And cis men want cis women to hate trans women.
>>41048495>temu version of womanyou underestimate their true value and clearly this is the most common error from people like you, but once you realize that you will understand where you and most peoples hatred towards them really comes from>live sad life as an uncle tom pre poonerstfu omg
>>41048541Mra pages and gay conservative sites have great resources
>>41048529 Do bull shit with fake data from Riley Gaines. We know who is feminist and who is getting boycotts. The space program is a disaster now that women waisted the money on a failed design. Wtf
>>41048547so you made this thread to confirm this bias to yourself?
>>41048550You are a sad repper poon who wants to be a man, of course you would want a masc appearance and a cock
>>41048486This is the best one, previous works on this taboo subject mostly just said 'because women are emotional and stupid' rather than actually breaking down which women voted for hitler and why like evans.https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/241521?journalCode=jmh>>41048284That's because of the sexual revolution, fewer women get into those 'trad' relationships that turn them into seething resentful nazis. Look at white women in the US though, as a whole we went for Trump twice, even if you only look at college degree holders lmfao.
>>41048576So what you are saying is that we need to to abolish gender
>>41048574most trans women dont have a masc appearance though, and a masc appearance alone doesnt make you a man either. the real thing is that most trans women are really just far more interesting than most cis women and thats actually why some prefer them, sometimes it has nothing to do with cock or anything, theyre genuinely just far more enjoyable people to be around sometimes
>>41048603its pretty much all about the cock and male features why I like them
>>41048593We certainly need to abolish gender roles, I think people kind of like having a gender as long as they're free to express it however they please.
>>41048630well clearly youre one of the chasers who dont deserve them at all so you gotta deal with that i guess
>>41048658I agree with you. But thats a pretty radfem idea
>>41048667You should change your name to "Uncle Poon"
>>41048576Thank you kindly, reading now and saved it locally.
>>41048667nta but i agree with that other anon, as a tranny. we are the temu version of women. you've never seen a tranny naked, otherwise you wouldn't be such a flagrant simp
>>41048692you gotta treat yourself better. this is not all you are>you've never seen a tranny naked, otherwise you wouldn't be such a flagrant simpi actually have but im adding the fact that i also like cock to it so its probably not as genuine as you think. it just makes me sad seeing you treat yourselves like this when you could be so much more>>41048677no that doesnt even make sense i like my name
They're not. Every cis woman I've met has been kind, lovely and accepting.
>>41048670Yes and no, the way TERFs want to 'abolish gender' involves a bizarre enshrinement of 'biological sex' as a sort of unalterable super-gender, which doesn't really abolish gender. There really shouldn't be any logical contradiction between the goal of gender abolition and transsexualism at all. The transsexual undermines the notion of gender as a fixed biological reality by altering their biological reality to a significant degree, and by frequently not conforming to the 'rules' of either gender. But the TERF somehow misses this forest for the trees of specific language neoliberal idpol activists use that reifies gender, and the ways in which early transition trans people often act stereotypically as their new gender because they're trying to figure out how they're going to inhabit it (just like cisgender adolescents, the a-priori assumption of trans invalidity blinds TERFs to the ways in which transition is essentially an extremely deferred version of the process of identity development that cisgender people are able to engage in during puberty).
>>41048731there is a big part of me that wanted to respond with just>oh lawdy lawdy when i reach page 10 i's finally transition'ninbut you're 20, you don't deserve my curdled spleen. instead i'll tell you what i've told you before: get off 4chan. use social media that's appropriate for people your age. i look back and even the things i did that i regret, i don't regret half as much as the things i wanted to do but didn't, bc i was posting on 4chan. and now i'm old and warped like a weatherbeaten log and there is no time to choose another way. i have to just accept and live with the consequences of failing in the only way that actually matters. don't be like me pls
>>41048809This.
>>41048848>tly not conforming to the 'rules' of either gender.There should be no rules to confirm. Terfs hate transgenders because of this specific thing. Its basing being a woman on stereotypes
>>41048855>use social media that's appropriate for people your ageeveryone that uses it is utterly retarded and they dont let you complain about anything there. this is the only place that i have>now i'm old and warped like a weatherbeaten log and there is no time to choose another wayyea except that wont be much of a problem for me because well ill just be a woman. i know trannies suffer a lot more in this regard due to how their hormones naturally progress without intervention, but well, i can just fool myself into thinking nothings actually changing if i psyop myself into believing in the "afab soup" thing. so its easier for afabs like me to rep and should even be encouraged so we dont end up with anymore detrans grifters. but on the other hand, i truly think every tranny should transition with no exception because it should be more of a priority for them, like a life or death thing, to prevent further or potential suffering from not doing so
>>41048900>be GNC tranny:>"you're not acting like a woman? are you even trans? maybe you don't need these hormones anymore...">be GC tranny:>"you're acting like a woman? don't you see you're just a disgusting caricature and you're basing your whole personality off a stereotype?"so it goes
>>41048930this is why transmisogyny is a real thing, no afabs have ever experienced this in their lives
>>41048809>has been kind, lovely and acceptingOf what exactly? You being a hon freak? You being in women's spaces? You having a straight bf or a lesbian gf? You being a passoid? You having masculine hobbies or opinions? Cis women are the party of trump and are only kind lovely and accepting to people they can use politically, they don't care about us as people or once we start being too close to overtaking their social role.
>>41048930Different people have different issues with trannies. Terfs are a minority of people tho, keep that in mind
>>41048959>transmisogynyIt's just the regular misandrist shittesting women do to men but trans flavored.>oh you never talk about your feelings? must be some psychopath chud>wow you're crying in front of me? man up you fucking pussy boy this is why I hate male feministsIt's all the same shit.
>>41048959Its just misandry, you silly afab>>41048969Get your meds psyop-sally
>>41048996>psyopWomen chimping out once people get too close to gaining the same priveleges as them has been a dominant political force against progressive change for as long as they've been a part of society. Never forget that women's suffrage, the OG "women's rights" moevement, was born out of opposition to universal suffrage that was threatening to give poor and enslaved (ie black) men the right to vote. Women have always been reactionary.
>>41048925afab soup is the poonrepper equivalent of "hrt is magic" honscience. i mean, if you're an androgynous afab to begin with, it's safe(r). but you have no way of knowing when your hormones are gonna decide to say "it's time to be mommy" and condemn you to en-hipped poondom forever. ever trans person, regardless of birth assignment, should transition ASAP. including you. and i guess i don't really have a leg to stand on when i tell you to not use 4chan. just remember, the people here are not your friends, especially if they pretend to be
>>41048986the thing is the women who do this dont realize it comes from internalized misogyny and not "misandry" or anything of the like because "misandry" isnt a real thing, its just a side effect of misogyny.>>41048996>Its just misandrymisandry isnt real. now take your pills alice youve got to accept you are a victim of the same misogyny every cis woman faces on the daily, just amplified 10x because youre trans. literally no such thing as "misandry"
>>41049025>misandry isnt realFeminazi cope so you never have to risk humanizing your victims.
>>41049017>universal suffrage that was threatening to give poor and enslaved (ie black) men the right to voteWere women included in the universal suffrage movement at the time or no? Seems like a decisive factor here.
>>41049018>you have no way of knowing when your hormones are gonna decide to say "it's time to be mommy"yes i do because when that happens i will simply just kill myself. much easier than going through all the trouble of something i may not even be completely sure of and risking ending up like those detrans grifters who dont even look like men either
>>41049017You are just male who wishes to reap harm between cis women and trans women. Its always you ranting about "evil women" on every thread. Its boring and your motives are clear.>women's rights" moevement.Might come as a shock to you but womens rights have different history in different countries. You are america centric
>>41049039>Were women included in the universal suffrage movement at the time or no?I forgot to mention it, but yes they were. Universal meant literally everyone. It was a hate movement from the start.
>>41049039they were but white women didn't like that black women could conceivably get rights in the universal suffrage movement. so white women made the separate "women's suffrage" movement to exclude black women. you ain't read "ain't i a woman?"
>>41049035>Feminazi cope so you never have to risk humanizing your victims.no im just indirectly protecting trans women from their imminent threats and from being grouped with them by ignorant people like you, because thats what should be done. saying women dont experience misogyny dehumanizes them too, why shouldnt the same apply to trans women, since theyre also women? and dont say because theyre men because thats just not true
jarby god bless you for fighting the battles in here that i don't have the energy or dedication to fight
>>41049064wow seems pretty damning
>>41049025So misandry in your opinion is like misogyny but worse, good to know, thanks uncle pre poon
>>41049054>harm between cis women and trans womenCis women do enough of this themselves. I would never have to even waste my breath trying to compete with them on that front.
>>41049071the "fair sex" lol what a joke
>>41049080Don't be so bitter, Im sure some man will like you
>>41049089Is it news to you that white supremacy is the most important thing to white people and racists exist? Why are you surprised?
>>41049072Misogyny is not when a woman gets called a rapist and a pedophile for peeing in the correct bathroom. That's something only trans women deal with, and it's because the person saying it see's them as a man, and is also misandrist and believes those things about men.If someone hate crimes a mexican because they think he's black, it doesn't somehow become non-racist against blacks, it means the mexican experienced a moment of anti-black racism. The same thing happens when trans women experience anti-male hatred, ie misandry.
>>41049077>So misandry in your opinion is like misogyny but worseonly in trans womens case but yes, its motivated by the same thing which is perceiving certain people as less for expressing themselves in certain ways. men do it to other men they see as less masculine all the time. you should know if youre a moid
>>41049104It's not a surprise per so more like a grim reminder of reality after all the constant 'women are good' propaganda
>>41049049why are you worrying about ending up a detrans grifter? it seems like you know you're trans but somebody planted the seed of spooky dysphoria in your head and you think "there's no way to really know, i could just end up like maia poet!" but maia poet was never trans. the fact that you say>yes i do because when that happens i will simply just kill myselfproves you have real dysphoria and you should get on T right fucking now
>>41049071America america america!!!You know how women got equal rights in soviet countries? They were just deglared equal and soon they outperformed men in school and work. Angry white men should study how post soviet men have been coping with female domination in school and work life, they have the experience
>>41049120White woman are white before they are women.
>>41049130>Angry white men should study how post soviet men have been coping with female domination in school and work lifei'm sure i know quite a lot more about the butcher of rostov than you, vlad
>>41049128She is scared cause trans men are stupid and lame and trans women are so cool and amazing. Its her internalized misogyny thats stopping her from pooning. I hope he reps forever desu
>>41049017Nobody is ever getting close to women's privileges since none of you will ever have wombs. So you can drop your persecutory delusions.
>>41049143Logically she would be a white baby, then a white girl, before becoming a white woman. So it makes sense I guess.
>>41049158>butcher of rostovMy fave witcher
>>41049165She was a white sperm and an egg, white twinkle in his fathers eye
>>41049109>Misogyny is not when a woman gets called a rapist and a pedophile for peeing in the correct bathroom. That's something only trans women deal withthats also true but its also why its called transmisogyny. its still part of misogyny regardless, because its still discrimination against a woman for perceiving them a certain way that is largely incorrect>and is also misandrist and believes those things about men.see heres the problem theres nothing wrong with believing that. women have to protect themselves from potential threats anyway. the problem with transmisogyny is that people refuse to see women as women and instead see them as a threat. thats not misandry, it is usually self defense as long as they arent overtly discriminating those people, but it really shouldnt be this way if people just accepted trans women are women. they are just afraid of the threat of men.>The same thing happens when trans women experience anti-male hatred, ie misandry.doesnt exist. anyway>>41049128>why are you worrying about ending up a detrans grifterbecause it just seems so common to me but also i cant wrap my head on why that outcome would even take place for these people without empathizing with them in some way (mostly using my imagination though), because most of the time more than actual hatred towards "trans ideology" it seems to me like theyre just upset because they didnt get what they wanted. but if they did, they wouldnt be grifters, and would actually be happy. it just makes me so fucking sad and i really dont wanna end up that way because i feel like my dysphoria wont even be fixed with hrt, and especially not at this point
>>41049130Soviet women's rights didn't come with all of the baggage of white supremacy and a holy mandate of misandry attached to it, they happened during the reset post revolution. They weren't even feminists in the classic sense of the word, they were soviet egalitarians, which of course included women since they were also human. There was little of the supremacist and eugenicist foundation that western feminazis built on top of and it just concerned itself with equal rights for all and accepted that women just got an equal cut of the pie now.
>>41049172calling chikatilo a monster-slayer is hilariously depraved. do you also suffer from impotence outside the context of sexual sadism?>>41049189>i feel like my dysphoria wont even be fixed with hrt, and especially not at this pointwhy?
>>41049203Men did not let women get leader roles in soviet countries, despite women performing better and now in russia, men can legally beat their wife. I think west did it better in the end
>>41049189>theres nothing wrong with believing thatAh, now your kvetching makes sense. You despise men too, you just think you can be "one of the good ones" to the world by transitioning, which is why you project onto me saying trans women are men because that's really what you think of yourself for some reason. Just to clarify, I don't see myself or you as a man, but I accept that there's no point in arguing with the Auschwitz guards over who's really a jew or not as if they're gonna let me go free. I'd rather turn to my fellow inmates of any walk of life and fight for what we can together. That just happens to be every other AMAB, and against every single feminazi scum that says we can't be oppressed as their boots are on out collective throats.
>>41049238>now in russia, men can legally beat their wifeAre you ignoring that the soviet union was broken up like three decades ago? The soviets did a good job, but the US couldn't handle communism beathing them in everything so they crashed out hard and couped the place. Between Yeltsin and Putin everything the soviets did right is dead now and has been for a while.
>>41049211because im literally a full grown woman at this point, theres nothing hrt can really fix that isnt just giving me vaguely hirsute qualities. that wont make me a man, itll just make me an ugly, bald, possibly even overweight pcos-ish woman, and the worst part is that my voice may not even develop well at this point because i let time pass so i wont even sound like a man if i transition after this. theres just no point anymore.>>41049240>You despise men tooi actually dont but im doing it for the bit he he hethe ones who actually do are far more annoying than me though because they usually really mean it>words words wordsstfuuu
Same thing that makes cis men violently anti trans, they are brainwashed by rightoid media apparatus (and the lukewarm centrist media does little to push back on it, giving "both sides" commentary at best). People are products of the propaganda they consume. Only I am special and different.
Because you want to kill them because they won't fuck a troon.
>>41049272yeah, and i (since the reppers on this sharty website like to quote "ted" so often) could see myself as a man with boobs, a failed male who transitioned too late and just grew disgusting hairy conetits. how would you expect me to not feel this way, when you say if you take T you'd just be a hirsuty woman? yeah, to the c*ssoids, to the terfs, we'll always be just hirsuty women and men with tits. this is exactly the kind of 4chan-en(((gender)))ed self-hatred that will ruin your life, and has ruined a large part of mine
>>41049189>it really shouldnt be this way if people just accepted trans women are womenhow do you convince women to do that? What if you cant? Are we just supposed to put up with the status quo transmisogyny forever and ever because women have justifiable fears? Just spitballing questions here haha
>>41049377Thailand managed to do it, trans people are a third gender and thus don't step on anyones toes
>>41049262You believe that modern russia is americas plot?
>>41049428Not entirely. It's sort of like chile and Pinochet. America just found a way to end their latest leftist threat and then fucked off to rape more oil out of the middle east.
>>41049415I don't know much about Thailand but I'm really not opposed to the third thing solution. I don't need to be seen the same as a cis woman as long as there is a reasonable respect for my personhood across society, I am not denied opportunities to succeed, people dont lie about me or who I am constantly etc. it just seems completely impossible because everybody believes that their discomfort/fear justified every form of discrimination across the board. It doesnt stop at just bathrooms and sports, I can live without bathrooms and sports
