what to do when things seem hopeless? i have been happy before and i will be happy again but when i get to a point where i feel like i've severely fucked up i can only think of death. i know the basic solution is "wait for it to pass" and then it will, but every time i want to die. i can never tell myself in the moment that it will pass.

have Jesus or any of God's angels ever spoken to you directly?

>>41047393
lutheran here, do you view humanity as fundamentally good and in need of saving for their missteps or as fundamentally bad (living in constant sin) and in need of saving or sth else

>>41047531

My favorite number is 555. triple 6 is the number of man. Man always needs someone lower than them to lift them up. I believe its we lost the way. Christians found Jesus and they dammed the way. They pretend their sins arent as bad. Im here lower than every bad feeling youve ever felt to life you up from below.

>>41047882
*poops on you*

>>41047525

Ive seen the most beautiful things in this world.
But probably a funnier one is one night when I was accidently becoming religious again I was thinking
about my younger self when i would accidently say "fuck God" during my prayers.
God strike me dead right now I heard "nigga fuck you too". Hes funnier than you think. He gets 4chan memes even,

>>41047393
Thanks man, appreciate it

>>41047393
Hello fellow child of Christ. Do you ever find it hard to have compassion in the modern world? Do you see people in your own church trying to deny the need for compassion and understanding too? What do you pray over? Im a pre-mtf tranny and a lifelong Catholic, and I've prayed a lot over my desire to transition and frankly I feel it's the first time I've gotten signs from God in my life and they all say to do it.

>God is telling me to live out my fetish
I feel like a lot of people are drawn to God as a way of avoiding responsibility

>>41047511

Sorry I didnt know ppl responded. I think when you want to die its because you dont know love. And im here to say I LOVE you.

when you look in the mirror remember first that you are a human and you are a beautiful creation. Everyday you wake up theres a chance. a beautiful chance.

it is hard to want to live. I wont act like finding this out at 26 I didnt spend the last 26 years
feeling very dark thoughts. I had mental breakdowns for 20 straight years. Almost daily

>>41047904

ok be honest with me, its really complicated tho and it might take a while to understand this.

When you feel it, do you feel it in ur heart? When I feel God its like a cloth over me. If you feel a swelling in your heart that isnt God, thats a hex. Its in the music.

what music do you listen to?

>>41047914

I agree but I think the bigger issue is when a christian finds God and then turns and dams the river to the rest.
When i first felt God's love truly the first thing I
thought was I need to tell everyone.
I was raped for years as a kid, I didnt know love for the longest time. But I found it and I wanna show and give it to others

>>41047952
God's river flows everywhere. People are inconsequential

>>41047899
I LOVE YOU!

>>41047889
ok purr

>>41047965

this is simply wrong and blasphemy.

most people in america know about God and all this but have bad experiences with bad christians.
like YOU.
You dont love his creations, you dishonor him

>>41047981
Yeah okay, I'm used to being told I dishonor God or whatever by PEOPLE (who are not God). Your words are the words of a man and/or woman, not God. They are inconseauential. Stew in your self-righteousness.

>>41047990

oh mb i thought you were christian...
idc how you sin. we all do. Ive seen darkness bro.
Ive seen THE dark. and He was still there to help me up. everytime.

>>41047393
i love being a woke protestant

>>41048006
I will continue to honor God in my own way, which has little to do with darkness or making him lift me

>>41047393
why do you think i dont live life?

>>41047525
Nta but Angels unfortunately and they’re like having a heart / anxiety attack, they can be real overwhelming unless you do a middle pillar or lbrp
>schizo

>>41048030

well if you are happy then good! I love that.
I see nasty ppl here being mean sometimes
im a /b tard
we gotta protect the kids. we're losing them lately... that hurts my heart

>>41048013
>>41025014

is this you? ur a loser. idk what christian u are but
i dont know you

>>41048028

He loves to life you up. He loves to see you smile.
You arent a burden. I promise. I love you.

>>41048057
>we gotta protect the kids. we're losing them lately
protect them from what anon?

>>41047393
are you catholic or protestant...

>>41048087

man... where do i even begin :,(
if im being honest I cry everyday over the kids in palestine. I even tear up rn typing this.
Theres so much wrong with what theyve done to the younger generations
its so unfair. I wanna save the world.

-sorry

>>41048114
you seem good anon, it also makes me sad. matt 5:3-12

>>41048111

I do all the catholic prayers but I dont go to one.
I was raised mormon but I just said protestant cuz thats a catch all term.
Theyre typically the self-righteous ones.
but i dont believe in the hierarchy of church
having a pope, king, head patriarch.
That spot should be for Jesus should he return.

im a /b tard btw im not all religion.

>>41047932
Why didn't you answer my questions......
>When you feel it, do you feel it in ur heart?
I don't think we "feel" God and His presence on earth on a metaphysical level, with a few exceptions. I believe the Holy Spirit has worked its will through the earthly world and it feels uncanny when it happens. A person listening my voice for woman's somehow (over the phone and in person), trans friends reaching out for the first time in a while, etc.

>>41048141

I wont respond to u anymore. I have people to save and youre in my way.
Go pay your tithes like a good boy.
"oh thats going somewhere important" brother thats
the taxt collectors.
all the sect. that divided in america were a disease that
further spread God's people.
get a grip of yourself. have some shame
while u throw a verse at me.

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>>41047919
maybe this is where finding God becomes truly important...it is hard for me to find myself naturally, inherently beautiful as a creature and as a human (although i do often feel good about myself as a person, like who i am and how i move through the world!), because my existence seems so random and insignificant. i don't believe that i was created by God or a god because i have never known God.....i tried when i was younger but i'm not sure i really understood. i have considered this sort of thing lately, but i also wonder if it is possible for me to simply find beauty in my own personal existential blip by nature of it being just a blip. in that i am here, now, miraculously, by the will and work of God or otherwise, and someday i won't be, and i am part of this huge swirling cosmic Nothing, which is also Everything, and i am totally tiny and insignificant but also i have a whole world here that i'm living in with still greater beauty than i could probably ever imagine that i haven't even discovered yet. and i am a body with a heart and brain and lungs and veins and arteries and muscle and bone and nerves and a system of systems which communicate with each other to keep me healthy and breathing and all the other creatures contemporary with my ephemeral blip function by their own mechanisms, both like and unlike mine, and i should find beauty in that sort of thing. i just don't know how to distill that or even really understand it in a way that i can hold, like that, in my head. i am sure you will tell me that the answer is to find God, and i am here to listen to that with an open mind; i'm just sort of emptying out my brain here. i don't know what "finding God" really even means.

>>41048174

well I cant tell you whats right and wrong.
When I was 8 I used to stab my wrists. But today
Im the happiest ever and I have so much love to give.
Should I regret those decisions that made me stronger?
If you feel your heart swell this is a hex. This hex is
common in america because america is satan's home. dont trust your heart. Your heart likes caffeine and energy drinks.

i swear... its in the music.

>>41047393
Thoughts on Hildegard Von Bingen?

>>41048197

I LOVE YOU.
I love talking to people that arent religious and the way they describe life.
Its literally so beautiful everything you typed... I love you.

maybe I can explain it this way
God is in everything.
When you study philosophy you realize its just
explaining religion without God.

more esoteric but every religion honors God has
some Good or Truth because He could destroy anything
that displeases him.
When you were younger you came to God as kid.
Now you come to him as a coworker. You have to tug on his pants and ask him a question.
Humbly, like a bright eyed kid asking to go play on the swingset. He loves you. I feel it rn so much.

ask me more! or what doesnt make sense.

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>>41048278

Oh wow I love that! I follow this guy on twitter that makes
edgy art but its just like so cute me idk.
Its like aww my little edge ball I love your portrayal.

>>41048235
>well I cant tell you whats right and wrong.
I'm not asking you for what's right and wrong anon, I want to pick your brain and compare our thoughts. I hope your suffering and burdens have made you stronger and I hope you're getting whatever support you need.
>Your heart likes caffeine and energy drinks
Nah my heart hates those but my retard adhd brain loves em

>>41048407
oooh ok, well like for instance im a body builder and
I always wanted to take testosterone. I dont think
its good for me either but it hypnotizes me...
It took me so long to get a 325 bench, it would
fix all my problems to go one cycle lol.
but in the end we know the health concerns.
we see them in this thread. is it everytime? no.

>I hope your suffering and burdens have made you stronger
thank you! i love you btw... alot :3


you still havent said what music you like!

>>41048290
i love you too nonny :) thank you for talking to me
when you say "God is in everything" do you mean that, like, i and the bee and the flower it pollinates are each an aspect of God, like He is living here on Earth AS myself and the bee and the flower, or is it rather that there is some divine energy present in those things? i am not sure i would totally understand either of these ideas (if it is even one of them).
also, does your saying that He could destroy anything which displeases Him mean that the world (the universe?) is exactly perfect now, as He would have it? like war and hate and hunger and all that, also? this is another thing i have never understood...i have thought of these things (and peradventure, of my existence as a transgender person, at least in an analogous sense) as possibly spiritual trials from God meant to strengthen and temper the soul, but i don't think i totally get it, especially when people just die after all the suffering. i consider myself very lucky to have come out the other side still being able to smile. am i thinking about this too literally? do i look at them as experiences which bring one closer to God, but not necessarily as the work or will of God? i recall also having been told that He doesn't really meddle much in worldly affairs, and it's more that He's just sort of hanging around like a really wise invisible friend to offer a guiding hand or pat on the back, and everything that actually happens is simply the results of choices regular people make of their own will, but i can't reconcile that with what you just said, unless i totally don't get it at all, which is possible. i'm sorry it's taking me so long to write these; i think slowly.

>>41048563
> i love you too nonny :)
yay! <3 also you are a fucking genius bro… and if you want to look literal look at calculus. God owns the math. God controls the stars.

But the world is cursed. We are here soley to be tested. Perhaps people die young cuz they already finished the test.
a big misconception people have is how long Adam and Eve were in the garden.
they could of been there a million years. He was so sad when they found the tree, it’s like your pet getting into something toxic. It’s no one’s fault really. And then you like hold your pet and cry and think about them dying lol.

a big problem is all these religions that’s talk about promised lands or chosen people. He loves those that are broken hearted. Not ones that think they have a right to him.

>>41048563
>i'm sorry it's taking me so long to write these; i think slowly.

don’t worry i’m gonna be back. just look for the pictures of these artistic angels. I’m trying to come back everyday and look for people talking about killing themselves. It’s hard to understand all at once.


-sorry

>>41047904
catholic here too<3 i'll keep you in my prayers, good luck on your journey

>>41048680
i think i can sort of understand this. to be honest with you i kind of completely forgot about Genesis and the garden and all that. i'm still not sure i completely understand why He wouldn't just fix it all, but i won't bother you about that today, if you're on your way out (i ought to be as well lol. so unproductive here); i'll see about doing some reading on my own. i really appreciate your talking to me :) this made me happy
>>41048738
>-sorry
you do not need to be sorry ????? i don't even know what you're sorry about.....but anyways thank you again for talking