The "context" of this one is fucking stupid too, Charlie Kirk didn't say to stone gays....he said GOD wants us to stone gays. Charlie Kirk is a total antitheist who disagrees with this, of course.

Fucking stupid.

>>41076506
>how to get Marxists angry at you by acknowledging any wrongdoing whatsoever

>>41076527
Source and stfu.

>>41076506
The thing is that he did advocate for it.
King should have just deleted all the stupid tweets and stopped talking about it. Now he’s a propaganda arm of the far-right instead. But I guess he feels more identification with them now that they’re also open pedos.

>>41076547
https://rumble.com/v501nhx-thoughtcrime-ep.-48-trump-rally-aftermath-pride-month-white-fortressing.html?e9s=src_v1_s%2Csrc_v1_s_m

From 1:00:00 in (right after Miss Rachel stops talking). The whole thing is some demented rant about how nobody should support pride month, and how God's law says that people should be stoned to death. He confliates the Pride in Pride month with the sin of Pride, he pretends like the source for "Love thy Neighbor" is Leviticus (instead of Matthew which is where most Christians are familiar with it)

But Charlie Kirk doesn't think gay people should be stoned to death though! Just God! Charlie Kirk is neutral to negative about God's law.

Chuds are demented.

>Apologising for being right

Never get old

>>41076527
A verbal warning had to be issued immediately before the homosexual male act

After that, it says two Jewish male witnesses of upright character must directly see act of penetration of homosexual males.

After that, witnesses had to testify consistently that they saw the same act in the same place and time. Even a slight discrepancy could invalidate the case.

After that, a Sanhedrin of 23 judges was required for capital cases. A majority of at least two votes in favor of conviction (e.g., 13–10) was needed.

After that, the condemned was pushed from a platform about two men’s height (~10 feet).

If he died from the fall, the process ended.

If not, the first witness dropped a large stone onto his chest.

If still alive, the second witness acted.

If still alive, the whole community pelted with stones until death.

>>41076638
Tell that to Charlie Kirk. Oh wait.

>>41076790
>Tell that to Charlie Kirk. Oh wait.
And it specifically only applied to Jewish law, which has not been in force since 30 CE.

He deleted that apology lol

>>41076805
Charlie Kirk didn't care, he was set on screeching and scolding Miss Rachel for accepting LGBT people. But yeah that would have been an important point for him to consider at the time.

>>41076506
he called stoning gays "god's perfect law when it comes to sexual matters" while also claiming to be a god fearing christian, how could that be taken as anything other then advocating?

>>41076622
Exactly
He never said to stone gay people

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>>41076867
Cause that's not what he's advocating for, he's saying that's god's law. Pic related.

>>41076877
>he's saying that's god's law
like i said he was a god fearing christian, why wouldn't he be advocating for gods perfect law?
>pic
weak attempt at owning the libs, completely insincere, literally everything he's said contradicts that tweet

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>>41076936
What about Dave Rubin and his husband?

>>41076622
>he pretends like the source for "Love thy Neighbor" is Leviticus (instead of Matthew which is where most Christians are familiar with it)
He seriously might have been so unfamiliar with scripture/deluded as to actually believe that. There's a reason this one never got blasted through conservative news cycles and it's because his argument is really bad. First of all, by his own admittance he's also picking a choosing which scripture he follows and willfully ignoring the Golden Law that Jesus tells us supercedes the laws of Moses. Second, he clearly only half believes the laws he did choose to follow since he was only condemning gays and not actively stoning them like "god wants"

>>41076622
okay, but he is commenting on someone else quoting scripture, and then he quotes another piece of scripture from the same book to make a point, which is the ”stone the gays” quote in question, and shows how that contradicts what that person quoted, then says ’’just saying’’ to distance himself from the literal words on the scripture
it’s also true that Christians tend to disregard the old testament in favour of the new, especially regarding law (the quote about stoning gays is a statement of jewish law)
I’m trans but I haven’t yet been convinced that this guy was so outspokenly extremist that he needed to die
we’d have to kill a lot of people if that’s your trigger

>>41076936
>like i said he was a god fearing christian, why wouldn't he be advocating for gods perfect law?
Cause it's Jewish law that isn't enforced by Jewish people anymore, since 30 CE since the Romans abolished Jewish courts.

>>41076877
Does Charlie Kirk think God is good or evil? Does Charlie Kirk think we should follow Gods law, or shun Gods law?

Or does he think we should pick and choose?
And what does ANY of this have to do with his demented ranting at Miss Rachel?

>>41076955
hitler was close friends with ernst rohm before having him murdered for being gay, he might have been kind to dave rubin to his face but he still believed that stoning him to death was gods perfect law

>>41076999
>yet been convinced that this guy was so outspokenly extremist that he needed to die
Nobody ever advocated for his death.

>>41076999
>I'm totally a tranny and Charlie just seems like a heckin nice guy
No one is buying this shit. It's honestly getting stale

>>41077002
>Cause it's Jewish law
no actually it's gods perfect law according to charlie, why wouldn't he follow it as a christian?

>>41076991
>Second, he clearly only half believes the laws he did choose to follow since he was only condemning gays and not actively stoning them like "god wants"
yeah, christians are just inconsistent, incoherent retards who live in cognitive dissonance
they’ll read awful shit in the bible they’d disagree with in normal circumstances and choose to ignore the inconvenient parts so they can actually be civilized
that’s why you can’t take Kirk too seriously and hence why it’s incorrect to say that he deserved to die violently
he wouldn’t stone the gays -- or would he? will anyone please prove me wrong? cause I’m yet to see how exactly he needed to die

>>41076867
you're being dishonest. if you watch the video it's obvious he was saying not to cherry pick lines from leviticus

>>41077009
Good questions. We should really ask him oh wait

>>41076506
I see we'll all be abandoned by our "allies" the instant it becomes inconvenient. We're living in 1933

>>41077029
Guess we’ll never know, would’ve been nice if we had the chance to find out.

>>41077012
Good riddance. Someone had to take the fall for it.

>>41077032
>not to cherry pick lines from leviticus
ok so he thinks we should follow all of it instead of just cherry picking? in which case that includes stoning gays, or does he mean we should follow none of it? in which case gods perfect law is wrong

>>41077029
>no actually it's gods perfect law according to charlie, why wouldn't he follow it as a christian?
Cause it's Jewish law. In the same way we don't follow the prohibition on shell fish. He's restating that it's God's law, not man's law. We live in a secular society.

>>41077013
that’s just not true
I’m not saying that you did it btw
>>41077022
to be clear: I don’t know much about him but from the little I’ve gathered I think he was awful and a retard and I wish he never got to be a relevant voice in the world and I don’t stand by anything he ever said
but he got violently killed and his two innocent daughters are forever traumatized by that event -- I wish it hadn’t happen
and if it had to happen because he was evidently so evil as you say, I wish it didn’t have to be this way
I’m >>41077030 btw

>>41077054
>We live in a secular society.
fortunately for us then, if that was the only thing stopping him it's a good thing he's out of the picture

>>41076999
>I haven’t yet been convinced that this guy was so outspokenly extremist that he needed to die

Needed to? No. Are our prospects better without him? Yup. Cissies love to preach love and tolerance when it's a cissy white man killing another cissy man. But they want our blood if they think a tranny is somehow remotely connected to this. I'm glad it wasnt a tranny who killed him. It sucks for his kids, but I sleep better at night knowing conservatards have one less intelligent ideologue like him to captain their ship.

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why do protestants care so much about the old testament anyway? it's part of the bible but you have to interpret it in the light of the gospel. with the coming of jesus the boundary between the chosen people and the rest of humanity was lifted. christians can eat pork and don't have to get circumcised, so who cares what ancient israelites thought about eating shrimp or murdering amalek children?

>>41077048
You should really go to one of his open forum style debates and ask him this. Seems to be a valid question Id love to see what his response would be. When’s his next tour stop?

>>41077012
>hitler was close friends with ernst rohm before having him murdered for being gay,

Rohm was not murdered for being gay, he was murdered for pushing for the SA to merge with the military and take it over.

>>41077084
>why do protestants care so much about the old testament anyway?

Because they aren't real Protestants.

>>41077098
Yeah because real protestants are Catholics post-council of Trentes

>>41077080
>Needed to? No. Are our prospects better without him? Yup.
okay, then we already agree
but I’d save his life if I could
it’s just not right and I think people are soulless ghouls for rejoicing
it shouldn’t have to be this way

>>41077054
Even Jews dgaf. Have you seen tel aviv or your average american shul? jews are based and gay. christians and muzzies need to grow tf up

>>41077012
>having him murdered for being gay
he was murdered because he was a fucking retard. kept babbling about revolution even after Hitler had seized power. his paramilitary force was also a problem. imagine being such an insane violent extremist that you manage to annoy Adolf Hitler

>>41077122
>christians and muzzies need to grow tf up
That's the point of what I'm saying, neither the Bible nor the Quran mention any prohibition.

>>41076638
>entire thing is contingent upon two jews watching gay sex happen
You just know they coerced goyim into fucking each other for money or something as an excuse to both spectate, and then kill them

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>>41077116
>I’d save his life if I could

Not like anyone coulda done anything for him anyways. imma meme tf out of his death because he profited off of demonizing us. Fuck him

>>41077086
Hell prolly

>>41077123
He was lobbing President Paul von Hindenburg to merge the SA and Reichswehr into the Volksheer (People's army).

>In response, Hitler met Blomberg and the leadership of the SA and SS on 28 February 1934. Under pressure from Hitler, Röhm reluctantly signed a pledge stating that he recognised the supremacy of the Reichswehr over the SA. Hitler announced to those present that the SA would act as an auxiliary to the Reichswehr, not the other way around. After Hitler and most of the army officers had left, however, Röhm declared that he would not take instructions from "the ridiculous corporal" – a demeaning reference to Hitler.[19] While Hitler did not take immediate action against Röhm for his intemperate outburst, it nonetheless deepened the rift between them.

>>41077012
comparing kirk and rubin to hitler and röhm is kind of unhinged.
>inb4 "but hitler used to be just like them!"
as early as 1924 hitler had already attempted to take over germany by force with the munich coup attempt, and had. been rambling about the jewish question.
if you look at fascist Italy, it was the same with Mussolini: he carried out a coup as early as 1922, and he used to have people murdered even before.
so this meme that fascists are just conservatives that haven't been murdered fast enough is dumb

>>41077084
This is why Catholics knew being able to read this shit book was a bad idea lmao

>>41076622
>He confliates the Pride in Pride month with the sin of Pride
Talk about being demented. How is that a conflation apart from your desire not to be associated with the ills of pride while still identifying with it? Have you ever considered NOT being prideful? That's a good look for everybody.

>>41076506
What a pussy, should have just doubled down.

>>41076622
He mentioned the mosaic law of stoning gays in order to debunk the false premise Rachel was putting forth that loving thy neighbor requires respecting their sexual deviancy, ignoring the parts of scripture that expressly rebuke it. It's not an endorsement of the practice of stoning and it's ridiculous how hard some of your are trying to purport otherwise. It was an argument about what Christianity is that people itt are trying to opine on despite not being Christians, and as such are being disingenuous about it.

"You love people by telling them the truth, not by confirming or affirming their sin."

Very well put by Mr. Kirk and it's a shame so many rabid heathens don't understand love in this sense of truth.

>>41077368
The Deadly Sin of Pride refers to an INORDINATE desire of excellence or esteem that gives way to arrogance, presumption and contempt of others.
Gay/LGBT Pride is taking place against a society that otherwise hates us and says that our lives have worth, our relationships have dignity and our sexuality is not a source of shame. Aka what straight people can take for granted from childhood.

Ironically what Charlie Kirk does in that very video is a much better example of the Deadly Sin of Pride than a few "we're here we're queer" chants. I've never known a single Evangelical MAGA protestant to give a fuck about Pride unless its in the exact context of whining over gay people existing though

>>41077460
He said the practice of stoning gay men to death is God's perfect law. Now answer--Does Charlie Kirk think God's law (as he understands it) is good or evil? Does Charlie Kirk think we should follow Gods law, or shun Gods law?

>>41077084
it's an excuse to be evil

>>41076506
The way Americans are treating this dead retard like a saint is genuinely surreal. Even hardcore libs who frothed at the mouth about le orange man for years are pussyfooting around the legacy of Charlie fucking Kirk of all people.

Reminder there is no such thing as a devil's advocate for Nazis.
If you defend someone you support them. If you claim otherwise you are lying.
It's really that simple.

>>41077615
That's what makes them libs, As much as they might hate bad people and want nice things they are still cucked by "norms". They want to be perceived as a good person more than actually making the world a better place. So when the media tells them they have to feel bad about a political commentator dying, they fall in line.

>>41077615
>The way Americans are treating this dead retard like a saint is genuinely surreal.
Cause Trump is a fascist dictator.

>>41077615
>Even hardcore libs who frothed at the mouth about le orange man for years are pussyfooting around the legacy of Charlie fucking Kirk of all people
because you will actively be harassed and potentially persecuted by the state for saying anything negative about him publicly

>>41077615
condemning political violence =/= celebrating the "legacy" of charlie kirk

>>41076622
Thank you. It’s very funny seeing chuds try to whitewash Charlie to make him more palatable. He was an extreme Evangelical freak and the chuds defending him know and agree with what he believed, they come here all the time to tell us to kill ourselves, but they jknow most people think their beliefs are insane so they need to sanitize it all post mortem. Bunch of spineless, slimey little worms

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>>41077615
rich public figures are more afraid of public figures getting shot for being annoying faggots than they are of fascism

>>41077615
Because any public figure that doesn't show the right amount of sadness is getting rekt. Obviously no one is going to let their real feelings about it out under their real names lol.

>>41077629
>tells them they have to feel
If you get to a point where you don't naturally feel it and need someone else to tell you to then your humanity is gone

>>41076506
what is with stephen king coming out as hardcore rightoid apologist lately all the time

>>41077084
Where does it say jesus came to end the law of moses? I'm only familiar with him saying the opposite

>>41077893
Going forward, the Law of Moses isn’t “abolished” but is seen as fulfilled and transformed in Christ. The ceremonial and civil aspects no longer bind Christians, while the moral principles are deepened, universalized, and carried forward under the “Law of Christ.”

>>41077893
Jesus says he came not to abolish the law but to fulfill it. The rest of the New Testament explains what this means

Matthew 5:17
>Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly, I say to you, suntil heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished.

Romans 10:4
>For Christ is the [culmination/end/fulfillment depending on translations] of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.

Ephesians 2:13
>But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near by the blood of Christ. For he himself is our peace, who has made the two groups one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, by setting aside in his flesh the law with its commands and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new humanity out of the two, thus making peace, and in one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility. He came and preached peace to you who were far away and peace to those who were near.

Galatians 3:23
>Now before faith came, we were held captive under the law, qimprisoned until the coming faith would be revealed. So then, the law was our guardian until Christ came, in order that we might be justified by faith. But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian

This explains why Jesus seems to uphold and "amend" the law at once (circumcision isn't necessary, nothing that enters the body stains the soul, love thy neighbor, ecc.) and it's the first moment of separation from judaism, even before his death.

>>41077533
I was interested in your post until the tiresome "no u" quip at Kirk. I didn't hear anything prideful in what he said in that segment. Why is that such a common rebuttal tactic around here? It's like a bad habit.

>I've never known a single Evangelical MAGA protestant to give a fuck about Pride unless its in the exact context of whining over gay people existing though
I doubt it would come up in other circumstances because nobody else is calling themselves a Pride movement ffs. Did you ever think of that?

>>41077012
>hitler was close friends with ernst rohm before having him murdered for being ga
LMAO and what does Kirk have to do with some national socialist from almost a hundred years ago? It's a false equivalency, you retard
It's like me arguing
>Oh, anon likes dogs? Well Hitler also loved his dog too, but he killed his pupper when he decided to kill himself, so therefore anon will probably want to kill his dog too.
Holy fuck man, take a break from the internet.

>>41077555
Christ's sacrifice was in recognition that man cannot keep with the law. Why do you think we don't do any of the other gruesome practices of the Old Testament? It's called grace, and I for one am very grateful not to be getting punished for parting with mosaic practice. I think you should be too.

Your first question seems rhetorical. Your second one neglects the role Christ plays in Christianity. Maybe think that one over a bit more.

>>41078147
He's very arrogant, hypocritical, and contemptuous of Miss Rachel's spirituality. He places himself in an unearned position as Miss Rachel's spiritual superior, sneering at her sincere love of God and her neighbor and I would say that place of superiority is very unearned. Its genuine toxic Spiritual Pride

>I doubt it would come up in other circumstances because nobody else is calling themselves a Pride movement ffs
"Proud to be an American"? "Proud of our Country"? "Proud of my Heritage?" "Proud of You, Son"? Be serious. There's never any confusion between the deadly sin of pride and healthy pride in our own worth. There's only a totally faked confusion when it comes to LGBT. Wonder why.

>>41078200
>Why do you think we don't do any of the other gruesome practices of the Old Testament?
I mean, as gentiles we aren't bound to the Old Testament at all. So why bring it up, one way or the other?
Miss Rachel quoted Our Lord in Matthew. Clearly Charlie Kirk feels the stoning of gays is very very important for understanding Gods law. Wonder why?

>>41078247
American Christian Republicans are the the most hypocritical sacks of shit it is unreal. They go around calling everyone else prideful sinners, yet when they do it they say "I ask God forgiveness and I am forgiving." This is why I can't take anyone who calls themselves Christian who is American and Republican seriously anymore.

>>41078120
That's a crazy interpretation of those pasages

>all leftie celebs start backtracking on their rhetoric for fear of career suicide
>all the right grifters suddenly start simping for israel for fear of ending up like kirk
So much for 21st century politics, everyone is spineless

>>41078247
It's not a "fake confusion". It's a response to an obvious attempt to shoehorn a niche for gay pride into a faith that it's not compatible with. National pride shouldn't be crammed into it either.

>>41078267
Because she misunderstood what she was quoting.

>>41078317
lolwut. it's the standard interpretation. the bible wouldn't make any sense otherwise

>>41077629
Non-lib lefties like Hasan Piker basically said the same shit. They are celebrities who are afraid of the same shit happening to them.

>>41079184
We don't support adventurism. We don't want a Years of Lead or Operation Gladio like what was going on in Western Europe when far right wingers in places like Belgium were straight up going around shooting people.

>>41078887
>Because she misunderstood what she was quoting.
Nope, she's just a sincere Christian who's not a braindead MAGdipshit.

> a faith that it's not compatible with
Many Christian denominations are perfectly accepting of gay people. The reason he brought up stoning gays is because that is his belief system.

>>41079446
What do you know about being a sincere Christian?

>>41077620
I assume you think nazis get the bullet but rapists child abusers and serial killers just need rehabilitation?

>>41077035
/thread

>>41077035
I'm sorry you sincerely believe we are less than a decade away from the rounding up of gays queers and trans and exterminating them?

>>41076506
>Reading’
>’
How many books has this guy written, again?

>>41077009
Why didn't you go debate him before he get shot, why are you trying to sound smart with a gotcha argument on 4chan lol?

>>41076527
>>41076622
Sophistry from the right? Surely you can't mean it!

>>41076506
What a fucking idiot.