Why are white trannies almost always from well off middle class or rich families? Sure, some of them are abandoned by their families but that doesn't change the fact that an overwhelming proportion of trannies had a privileged upbringing. What explains this?
i think you are experiencing confirmation bias
>>41119286i dont think this is true. do you ahve any statistics to back up this claim?
>>41119286I was raised in a pretty poor family as a white tranny
>>41119286Because in white liberal circles transgenderism is a social climbing strategy.Marxist trannies will never provide a materialist analysis of gender dysphoria because they are crypto-idealists.
>>41119310>>41119308To be honest, I'm just talking from my experience. I've checked and there are no stats for the family background of white trannies. It's just something I've noticed a lot.
>>41119366I'm a white tranny and I'm dirt poor
>>41119286There are more black, latino and asian tranners than european ones tho
>>41119366Could be that you're from a well off middle class family and those are just the circles you run in so when you meet trans people, they fit that pattern?
>>41119366ok so thats probably confirmation bias. are you from a well off background and interact with people from well off backgrounds? if so then the trannies you interact with are also most likely to be well off. there are lots of white trannies from rural places or like appalachia. i would hypothesis that for trannies it more or less tracks with general population along racial lines more than anything.
>>41119286Read Bourdieu. You simply know more white trannies because you yourself are white and a tranny.People here in general are usually of an upper middle class background because of our cultural consumptions: anime, videogames, alternative music, access to a higher education, etc. The POC trannies from the US are most likely hanging out in different online spaces. r/StraightTransGirls is I think a good example of a trans space that is somewhat removed from Discord and Forum culture.
>>41119286Probably because transition is more obtainable if middle class and above due to the US health care system. So a disproportiante amount of trans people will be from middle + income families. Especially once you factor in trans people who might need things like laser or FFS to not be a perma man moder making them invisible to you.For other races it's probably balanced out by the increase poverty you are statistically subject to if POC. Making it so you don't get as much of a majority of middle class trans even if it's similarly disproportionate to the population. The real way to test this theory would be to check the class dynamics of Asian trans people who are similar or above white people in terms of education and $.Another reason could be that higher education correlates both with being liberal and income. So accepting parents are more likely to have middle class incomes.
My parents were dirt poor divorced drug addicts that could barely function.You see more wealthy people because they are the ones that are able to get social media exposure (they bought their visibility and exposure).Also a lot of poor people are, well, busy working.
>>41119286I think if you are poor it's in your class interest to not socially transition and man mode, since you have less resources to afford cosmetic procedures, the only poor openly trans people I've met are prostitutes
>>41119286Most of the white trannies i know were runaways and are now hobos
>>41119286Hierarchy of needs. If you can't afford food, HRT is not a priority.
Most trannies i know are broke as dirt.
>>41119286>-made up hypothesis- guize how could the tranniez do this?? post no.95745678what wills cissoids to go to tranny board and do this. fuck all the replies are just confirming to op's shitty ass loaded question this place sucks now wtf>>41120456OP isn't a tranny, the language alone gives it away. also i dont think reddit let alone r/straighttransgirls is a good example of any human group ever. also i'm sorry but in my experience the upper middle class statement is just not true in my experience, alt music and videogames have zero correlation with wealth, and theres not really any correlation with 4ch and wealth etc, all the trans ppl i've met off here were not well off, especially not upper middle class. honestly the only rich tranny i remember using this board is soph. statistically trannies are like 9000x poorer than almost all other demographics, and 4chan trannies generally don't conform to the liberal accepting parents archetype, like that is not the norm here>>41120766diy is like 80$ a year retard. at that scale that's not how economics works, and OP was suggesting rich ppl not literally 'i can't afford even the cheapest of 70$ a month foods'. that dumb fucking argument is never made by ppl who lived that situation its just to guilt alwaysgod i fucking hate this board its so astroturfed kill yourself OP
>>41119366My guess is that it’s an IQ thing, since it correlates with family background. Trannies have a higher IQ on average, probably because it makes it easier to figure out you’re a tranny.
>>41119286Bc ur probably thinking of Americans and most white American liberals are well off
>>41119286Maslow. And check the incidence rate of mental other mental illnesses over SES. Also the social contagion factor.>>41119325BF skinner applies, of course.
>>41120467You get into the cultural confound of the differences between white and asian cultures.>>41121832If you're not smart enough to question anything, you aren't questioning your gender identiy. If you're too dumb to have a concept of sex or gender identity you can't be wrong about it. I would be there's a minimum IQ below which you cannot detect GD.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lgi3E-d9KRA
>>41119308Imo it’s more about lacking community and being post-need
>>41122066That's a strong point.
>>41120467you can’t compare to Asians bc they have a much less individualist culture however there are definitely more Asian AGPs in the west
>>41121767lol how do you clock someone as a tranny from typing style
>>41122306yeah, asian lgbt stuff is weird because they are very conservative, so it is tempting to repress. However, i think its more fair because EVERYONE is expected to repress, not just lgbt.
>>41121832>Trannies have a higher IQ on averageWho told you this? And you accepted it without question? And you're talking some absolute shit about how you think poor people don't question gender identity because they supposedly can't think critically? You wouldn't even comprehend how ironic this is.Studies show that there is no significant difference in IQs when comparing cisgender vs transgender people.Sit DOWN.
rich white people are radical nihilistic terrorists and I'm tired of pretending they are not
>>41119325>Because in white liberal circles transgenderism is a social climbing strategy.This is overstating it.It's more like being a woman is much superior to being a man in the specific environment of west coast liberal cities like SF, LA, or Seattle.These places have an insane gender ratio. There are basically no women let alone white women. So the incentive to be a white woman is gigantic.Then after that it's that being a tranny isn't viewed that badly in these places. And is def preferable to being a cis male.Especially these days after cis straight men like declared war on those cities basically.
>>41121767>statistically trannies are like 9000x poorer than almost all other demographicsWe're talking about their family background. A tranny can be poor while still having a middle class family and upbringing.
>>41121767>>41125703Also those stats are skewed by the presence of PoC and we're talking about white trannies here.
>>41119286what explains me being a lower-middle class rancid wetback spic and still being a tranny
>>41125716>spicThis thread is about white trans girls
>>41125716probably the spic part given that OP was about white trannies
>>41125722god forbid i feel included in a thread
>>41125726i mean 90% of posts here are about trannies in general, go feel included there? also the OP said "white tranners are X" not /whitetrannygeneral/ feel free to shit on the yakubian devils or something
>>41125711I always found it weird how white trannies working cushy IT jobs use those stats to pretend they're doing worse off than any other demographic groups.
>>41119286i wasnt, i had to work and invest. and then i dropped out of anything that resembles a normie life entirely.to the point now im basically a feral animal.and i hope i get euthanized soon.maybe its my fault i end up in so many fucked up situations.cause i want it.use trauma situations to put barriers up between trauma situations.
>>41125784>i wasntAre you sure?
>>41125784what's your situation nowi entirely relate
>>41125809i didnt get out of the poverty line until i learned how to invest. i didnt grow up in the ghetto. but i was put off to the back burner early in life when i was 14 and had to self sustain for anything i wanted. i had rich grandparents but was distant from them and never asked for a dime or got anything.they gave me 1 of my grandfathers rings..but before they did they chipped all the diamonds out of it. which was so kind of them.and so jewy.investing is the way out. if you just work a mcwage you're just spinning your wheels, but you can work a mcwage and invest and crawl out and hit 6 and 7 figures relatively easily within a year or 2
>>41125846im semi homeless and live on the streets (if its nice out) in my car, or here in this trap house.but its safe here, besides like the 20,000 yellowjackets that live in the walls, i dont even fuck with them cause they'll be dead soon and i already hit them with like 5 cans of wasp spray and they dont stop so fuck it, i'll wait for the cold and go into the attic and scrape whatevers in there with a hoodie and mask on or something. i dont tell anyone from the streets where this place is for my own safety/peace. i dont bring anyone here.since ive been away from the horses i pretty much hangout with the street world which ranges from all sorts.tonights different, i actually stayed here for the night. cause im trying to get off of booze right now cause its starting to effect my hands.i only started drinking to get away from crack and numb me out, and its been a month so i'm probably good. now i have to stop drinking. which will be imo easier than getting away from coke. i can do like energy drinks or hit a vape or something.and i have a few lbs of weed here and mushrooms, so i can just hide for a while. i have enough weed to get me to next summer for sure.but this place is going away soon. theres legal things going on but i have it for at least a few months. and the state is trying to get me into a different house.
i honestly trust the street people more than i do the state now. they do a betterjob at keepingmesafe and fed in real time. but i do not want to be out there when the freeze comes.i hate cold weather.
>>41119286>transgenderism
and the only reason i amdealingwiththis shit is cause i was drugged and raped like a little over a month ago, insanely.like snorting, smoking and being injected with coke and getting fucked and overdosing etc.it fucked up my head really bad.
>>41125925>cause i was drugged and raped like a little over a month ago, insanely.Wtf did you report to authorities
https://rumble.com/v6xt70c-mirror-on-the-wall-lucas-gage-clean-fresh-and-fit-song-feat.-myron-gaines.htmllast week i was hanging out with 2 dudes, and they gave me a narcan kit, a clean injection thing for heroin, and a glass pipe and choy boy and i was sitting there with all this shit on me, and i got drugged that night and was like nodding out i had to get in my car and lock the doors and stay in there all night. but i threw all that shit away. then like 5 minutes after i threw it all away, cops came. those dudes are gone now, theyre already in philadelphia and 1 is making their way across the country on trains.2 lesspeoplei have to worry about. its been pretty safe lately. 4 dudes did fight aroundme last night too. but i didnt get hit. but it was funny that they all surround me and start arguing over shit and a brawl breaks out in front of me.. and cops showed up within about a minute too.
>>41119325>Marxist trannies will never provide a materialist analysis of gender dysphoria because they are crypto-idealists.you are a mentally retarded person and you should desist pretending you are competent in anything more complex than eating glue>According to the materialist conception of history, the ultimately determining element in history is the production and reproduction of real life. Other than this neither Marx nor I have ever asserted. Hence if somebody twists this into saying that the economic element is the only determining one, he transforms that proposition into a meaningless, abstract, senseless phrase. The economic situation is the basis, but the various elements of the superstructure — political forms of the class struggle and its results, to wit: constitutions established by the victorious class after a successful battle, etc., juridical forms, and even the reflexes of all these actual struggles in the brains of the participants, political, juristic, philosophical theories, religious views and their further development into systems of dogmas — also exercise their influence upon the course of the historical struggles and in many cases preponderate in determining their form. There is an interaction of all these elements in which, amid all the endless host of accidents (that is, of things and events whose inner interconnection is so remote or so impossible of proof that we can regard it as non-existent, as negligible), the economic movement finally asserts itself as necessary. Otherwise the application of the theory to any period of history would be easier than the solution of a simple equation of the first degree.
Yeah, as others have said, I don't think being trans is just a wealthy thing for white people. It fits well with some stereotypes of trans people (and college, for that matter), but we're overall broke as shit due to societal factors. most of my trans friends IRL are working class. Usually doing a little bit worse than their parents, due to discrimination in employment or education, or trauma based menta health issues.
I mean if your family was so poor you couldn't even afford a nutritious meal 3 times a day, I don't think you'll be thinking about your gender.
>>41125934yeah at least 2 of them have disappeared. i had to go to the hospital and get tested. and i told everyone. from the state to the streets like everyone and they haven't been around there since and i only know what 2 of them look like and 1 of their 1st names.but i think they got arrested or they got fucked up by the street people for doing that to me. they disappeared and they used to be around. i've seen 1 of them like 5+ times out there before that. and he's gone now since then. i think he's in jail.there was more people but idk who they are.and they'd kiss me and blow crack in my lungs and i did get injected a couple times with crack and that was fucking intense. and i was naked in a room. my clothes went missing. and my car was gone too. they took my keys and my car disappeared too. and i was stuck in this room naked with a water jug and crack pipes and a pillow and a blanket.i overdosed and was sweating and my heart was going crazy and they put me in a cold shower for probably about an hour so. it was fun for about 2 hours.. but it kept getting worse. and the sun came up and my car was gone and my clothes. and it kept going on until early the next night. there was 2 left, and 1 passed out, and the other was totally fucked up and shitfaced. and i got my keys from him and my car was outside again and it was gone through, it was destroyed pretty much. oh and they went through my wallet too. and since then, i've just been fucked up. and im trying to get help from the state. oh i didnt even mention the knife too. at least they refered to me as "she" right.it was black dudes and a couple white guys.
>>41125969Many white trans people have been interested in certain expensive hobbies since their teenage years that really reveal their middle class status. I know some who have owned expensive music equipment or gaming PCs since their early teens.
well i dont buy horses.theyre given to me. and i give them away when theyre healed. its a 100% free will thing.and people donate to fund it all.and i was just the person that would do all the physical work with the horses to see them through and make sure they were happy and survived. i didnt take a dime for it.never have, never will.and i used my own money that i worked for to support me doing that. i had 0 help from anyone financially during that.i did it all on my own.special breed of crazy
>>41126005Like why? Who cares about horses
>>41119286my parents are poor they couldnt send me to college :c
>>41126400i do. i care for them.go bond with one and unlock thousands of years of ancestral memory.that horse is designed for YOU. it remembers. you dont.figure it out.
>>41126400you should go find a horse, and study equus.it takes like 15 minutes to learn basic horse language to build on.then go hangout with a horse. just you and the horse. all day for a month.i garuntee you, you'll begin to figure it out.and the cool thing about horse language is that it is universal and works with all horses.each one just happens to have its own personality, like people do. dogs and horses have been living with us for thousands of years.everyone knows doggies.. most people forgot the horse.and im telling you. that horse remembers everythjing. its built that way.literally one of the most magical, noble, majestic animals in the world to know.and they can read your energy/presence. once you learn to understand theirs. it all opens up.
and the funny thing.that same shit, applies to all animals and people.you become otherworldly. ancestral knowledge.that horse will teach you things you dont even know yet.and once you learn it, you'll see it in so many lifeforms. including people.
>>41126005>>41126466I saw a really badass horse webM the other day and thought of you
>>41126519was it the one of the russian mag dumping the horse and the horse kept going?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3p3Wiu-fvA
>>41122306i live in cal and know several asian gays that only came out as soon as one of their parents died, the pressure to conform for them is insane
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYbLvu_eRNcgo to the horses.its not "goodbye horses"its "hello again horses"
>>41119286Because they are the most likely to get support from their families and social circle which means they are able to get the resources they need for a smooth transition. This typically means they pass better, and given how society tends to favor white traits moreso, they are more visible, especially in online/TV spaces.Go to local LGBT spaces and you will see more diversity in regards to class.
>>41125890okay real, i'm in a trailer just bumming from town to town now. was living in the forest for a stint but i moved out
>>41119286I know a lot of poor trannies, whatchu talking bout
