I’m bulking right now and I wanna start pio (pioglitazone) for better distribution. Any other trannys here take it? Any advice on getting a bullshit prescription or ordering online (U.S)? Dosage?Also post general pio stuff like results, questions, advice, etc.
does the fat dustrobution fron pio stay?
>>41126653Fat is pretty long lasting so it should last a very long time unless you lose a lot of it through intentional weight loss. Especially if you take hormones overtime which still helps distribute
>>41126587check your bloodsugar levels on pio. I haven't looked into enough studies but pios seemed to have a dose dependant threshhold for some people to start working (no effects on under <30mg) which is the whole reason 30mg is the standard dose.Basically, check your morning blood sugar before starting pio. Then after 1 month of 15mg, check again but if it hasn't changed outside 10%, you should probably take 30mg
>>41126587>Any advice on getting a bullshit prescriptionYou can get a prescription online supereasily from ukmedz but likely not use it/send it to EU.You can then however USE that prescription, and add it as evidence on mobidoctor and get an EU/EEA prescription from them. YMMV which countries accept those, but here in Austria the pharmacist told me they don't accept those (when by EU law they should) but she gave me the meds anyway
>>41126736I’m in the United States.
>>41126587Get off united pharmacy I think that’s the best option if your in the states. Ive gotten really good results in just 3 months with it making me softer and with fat most of it going to my butt, hip dips and funny enough boobs, it’s too the point I don’t want a BA anymore as I’m happy with it. My weight is remained in same range in that time too 59-61 kg. I would go as far to say pio is pretty underrated, just make sure you eat while on it.>>41126718This is untrue you don’t need 30mg to get the adipose effects from it.
>>41126754United Pharmacies with .md at the end of the website name?
>>41126754unitedpharmacy wasn't shipping to the us anymore because of tariffs last time I checked, plus they were out of pio anyway
>>41126754>This is untrue you don’t need 30mg to get the adipose effects from it.Its untrue and true. >>>>Some<<<< people DO NOT respond to under 30mg. You're being disengenious to anons who would take 15mg and nothing happens for 3 months bulking when they could have just upped the doseI'm not saying you NEED to take 30mg. Just be aware some people are not response under a specific amount
>>41126819Global Pharmacy Plus seems to have some available stock and is shipping.
>>41126587i was on 45mg for 8 months and it really transformed my body, i did however end up with breathing and heart problems that went away a couple of weeks after quitting the drug. please dont be reckless with dosage and especially duration. If i could redo it id quit after 6 months and then probably do a 6 month break and then do another 6 months and then not touch it again.
Is pio worth it if you're already 8y on HRT and your fat has already put itself in a fem way?
>>41127033Yes I’m >>41126754 and was 14 years her before I started, so all effects from it are isolated to pio alone as my hrt has been the same for 10 yrs
>>41127068I'm kinda scared of the side effects ngl I have a very fragile health and my boobs have already been growing a lot latelyDo you have a before/after picture?
>>41127117Yes but there nsfw, you can’t have worse health problems then me im doing this while being by treated for a proclactinoma and bladder issues from constant uti’s in the past. I’ve found 15mg worked best for me, tried 30 and all I got was more gas and less appetite.
>>41127131>NSFWUnsee if you need is fine!I'm sorry nona about your health issues idk if mine are worse but I lack some organs (half metre of intestine, gallbladder), have IBS + a nebula of autoimmune like symptoms + I live in Scandi and I don't think it's really possible to fetch some here
>>41127159If you have ibs I would start on a low dose until your body is use to it as first week you will probably have some bloating, gas, nausea and bowel issues till type adjust, personally went through that but it could of been because of my cabergoline on top which has some horrible side effects. unsee cc/album#7og2gjyYhTXM skinny door mirror pic is the before, both pictures im roughly the same weight. But the measurement difference between them is an inch on my bust, -0.5 inch on waist and about an inch on low hips. I’ve been sourcing it personally from Indiamart
>>41127237Till you adjust * sorry iPhone doing what it wants.
>>41127237holy shit your hotAWOOOGA
>>41127237Oh yeah expect similar breast pain to when you first started hrt as well.
>>41127237pic expired :c
>>41127536I’ll post again unsee cc/album#nFIBLekTYm6t
>>41127237Thanks for the advice sadly your pic expired already lolI'll look there anyway!
>>41127567Oh and forgot to mention i gained like 4 inches on my bust recently by switching up my regimen a bit prog + injections and they're still growing so for now i should just ride that ig
>>41127564woah thats crazy, i got like 6months worth of pio but haven't started yet as im on tirz and losing weight but this fills me with a lot of hope. very cool thank u
>>41127576Definitely give prog and injections a go if your not happy definitely give pio a shot. Picrel my levels I’ve had roughly for last 10yrs on implants
>>41127564Ok everyone is managing to see it but it expired again for me :(
>>41127598some time* not a go lol. its 12 midnight I should get off phone
>>41127564woah those hips
>>41127598>implantsDamn I wish, Swedes only want me on gel (4*1mg a day) so I diy injections. No way of getting prog too officially.I wish I could see the famed before after cuz like I'm almost sold lol
>>41127603Weird it’s still got time on it and not set to one time, try opening in a private window in case cache or something.
>>41127615Never mind that it just bugged out. Damn what a difference.I might order some lmao
>>41127623If you do get off Indiamart like I did can vouch that sky high Medex is legit. Assuming they post to you.
>>41127598sheesh, isn't that estrogen way above recommended level for cis women?
>>41127621Yeah it was probably something like this don't worry got itYou look amazing nona aaaa I'll risk my health for this probably who caaaaresUnless I can manage without idk i always had big thighs and ass it's just i still have love handles but I need to lose weight to lose them BUT my boobs are growing One pic I took of them like a month ago but I think they grew in between and idk I hate my belly fat but titsTruly draconian
>>41127640I’m under care of a pretty well known endo that thinks wpath hon doses, his whole idea is he should target puberty levels.
>>41127646Pio hates stubborn belly fat, did not expect to lose anything off my waist but did despite being underweight.
>>41127654So you're saying pio will nuke that shit without needing to weight cycle ad nauseum?Fuuuuck
>>41127649well as someone who hasn't really been seeing resultsI guess I might as well try thatmy new endo is super understanding, I'm sure she'd agree
>>41127664That I’m not sure but it did remove some stubborn belly fat for me, weight cycling will likely help
>>41127646woah nicevery solid development
>>41127670Yeah i think I'm still gonna keep up what I'm doing for the moment since old expired since 2022 prog + old Lenajuice made such a huge difference in a few months (which made my post explant tits bounce back which is amazing they were so flat and sad :()>>41127677Thanks! yeah like I said above im so happy but it's but a damper on my weight lossMy underbust is 82cm (could be lower def if I get to my desired weight) and my bust is 103cm rnReally the belly fat is what pisses me off the most since it makes my hips look smaller than they are (picrel is clothed but gives an idea)
>>41127646How do I get godsess-like boobs like yours?
>>41127700>Lenajuicewhaalso please tell us your breast growth secretsmine are also flat and sad :<
should i add this in? currently taking bica, estradiol, finasteride and prog
>>41127707They're not that great lol but the secret sauce is do implants then they make you unhealthy and get infected so you keep them in until you get autoimmune issues from silicone so now you explant you get sad sad deflated tits so you decide to start high dose E and prog again instead of just gel and tadaaa your tits will be like "yo there's free real estate in that skin to be filled" and they'll fill itFoolproof
>>41127710Lena is a DIY girl from Ukraine, very old school one, the first even i think. We owe a fuck ton to her tbqh. She's not the favoured one today because of some old school beliefs about not testing her injections but I never had any issues with her stuffFor the story/secrets see >>41127717
>>41127717uhhhhsure lmaoI think I'll stick to pio + high E from the start and slowly work in prog
>>41127730Lol definitely a better idea But yeah just to say idk if my case is very generalisable lol
>>41127717Sounds like a winning strategy to me lol!Honestly sounds scary...but the results seem very worth it now haha!>They're not that great lolI disagree <3
>>41127700Injections/implants are just much better then other methods, i was on pills for like 2 years and then patches for 1 year off IHP back in like 2011-2014 and wasn’t seeing big results, wasn’t until i tried EV injections for short time then pellets once I was legit that things started to move. A big reason for me starting pio was because I was really upset at cabergoline destroying my boobs so was willing to try anything.
>>41127738I wouldn't recommend lol but going on gel /low E (i have had orchi so no need for AA) for a while to then do high dose E is I think anecdotally efficient. Worked for me at least>I disagree <3Aw thanks I'm still insecure there's still some assymetry but it's getting better day by day
>>41127712If your not on injections try that first
>>41127740Oh that medication ruins breast growth I'm sorry anon, pio sure helped a ton definitely It's funny how like having struggles along the way kinda makes us do crazier shit which might end up better in the long run?
>>41127749Haha, I know I'm just very jealous of your results!I've wanted to grow a large pair of boobs for ages, but there's so much to research...thanks for the help I do appreciate it.And I appreciate seeing your progress pics, but that's just me being a degenerate lol
>>41127759the doctors won't give them to me :( i mean im happy with my results, e is really really working, but can pio push it even further??
>>41127769>Haha, I know I'm just very jealous of your results!>I've wanted to grow a large pair of boobs for ages, but there's so much to research...thanks for the help I do appreciate it.You're welcome! Always glad if I can help a bit>And I appreciate seeing your progress pics, but that's just me being a degenerate lolThat's totally fine lol I usually don't send those pictures for information purposes so it's as intended :3 + I'm a transbian degenerate narcissist Here's one for you then nona that's slightly lewder
>>41127802>That slight upskirt shot>That underboobYou're so cute anon, let's date <3
>>41127800Pio def does something so if you want to push further go for it, I’ve posted pics above on unsee that’s just 3 months.
>>41127802so cutealso does anyone here have advice on dealing with uneven breast growthone is just seemingly not responding to estrogen at all rn and I don't know what to doI lowered my dose temporarily because I was afraid of it
>>41127810Aw thanks, technically it's an upshorts lolI already have a partner but I'm a poly-ish degenerate lel
>>41127812is it one that you cycle? like on a month then off a month? and do you take a dose every day? and how much? sorry for so many questions btw, i love learning about this stuff and taking new medications but im literally dumb and need to be spoonfed also yeah i saw the pics you look amazing
>>41127830Uneven breast growth is normal. Almost every single cis woman has 1 boob bigger than the other.
>>41127839yeah I know, but one is growing so fast it's super sore and the other one is just... totally unaffected seeminglyit's freaking me out a bit
>>41127835>poly-ish degenerateSounds like exactly my type of girl, you willing to accept long-haired boymoders who are desperate to grow tits?
>>41127830how uneven? i've got the same thing but only slightly. i attribute mine to a cycle accident i had when i was only like a couple of months on hrt, it bruised my entire chest really badly for a monththe doctor said it shouldn't have made a difference and a little variance is perfectly normal but idk...
>>41127812I didn't even notice you said just 3 months that's wiiiild>>41127830>so cuteAw thanks :3I think uneven breast growth is kinda normal sadly? But it depends if you truly have nothing on one side and a lot on the other then maybe it's a bigger issue but there's usually delayed growth
>>41127852can you post a pic? It's probably normal but it's hard to say without seeing.
>>41127837That’s ok, I’m taking 15mg daily atm after dinner, atm I’m 3 months straight on it I don’t know really when I plan to stop I kinda of want to go for 1 year for science, was roughly 41aud including shipping for 100 tablets or like 120aud for same amount from Mexico but the shipping is shit
>>41127854I would but you're definitely not anywhere close to me lol + idk, I'm still processing some trauma that came back with a vengeance recently due to bad shitI dated a girl who was still boymoding once. We went shopping together and she bought her first dress with me, was cute af. Been so long now though.
https://unseecc/album#Rin8kzuN9N9LMade my butt bigger desu, thighs too. Before is the darker jeans and black shirt
>>41127898>unsee>fully dressedHmmm
>>41127888I bet we're a million miles away too, but I wish I wasn't lol. I'm a Welsh boymoder near Cardiff, planning to transition asap, just doing my research.I'm sorry you had a bad experience anon :(If you ever want to talk I'm happy to listen <3
>>41127898How long so far?
>>41127883thanks ^^ if i get results ill post pics, give it a few months :p
>>41127910I'm in Scandi but yeah get on E asap! Super important idk how old you are stop researching just do it lolIt's nothing i haven't talked about here before, got invited to party by tranny friends, got raped (part of it was me not remembering it the day itself cuz i was ak drugged and drunk then being told the day after what happened, coping by "accepting" to get fucked in the butt by a trannh, which even then went too far and didn't listen when I told her to stop), and now my dad is in jail for extreme rapes/zoophilia so it's made all that come back more ig
>>41127925Scandi seems really nice! Now I gotta plan a trip to visit a cute girl I know there uwuThat story is absolutely crazy! You're a real champion for being able to talk about it so freely. You're doing great <3
>>41127905I don't wanna show my naked body here but I mean that's fair.>>41127911Like 4-5 months I think on 30. Gained like 25ish pounds
>>41127945>Scandi seems really nice! Now I gotta plan a trip to visit a cute girl I know there uwuYeah it's amazing wish it were warmer though lmao:3Funny thing is everyone supported the girl who did all that to me because I became more overtly mentally ill and unfun so I lost all my friends/community. Was years ago but still hurts lolYeah why not talk about it yknow I ain't done nothing wrong>>41127950I meant more you could send it without unsee just as a picrel lol
>>41127972I'm a bit of a yeti, I love the colder climates!Perfect snuggling weather uwu
>>41127972Yeh ig lol I post here fairly regularly under a name so I'd rather not
>>41127867sorry left PC for a bithttps://unsee cc/album#xsQmFMTTqpWg
>>41126587Here was my experience Starting weight was 135lbs at 5'6. Skinny but no ass or thighs I started taking 15mg daily and ate whatever fatty foods I wanted and drank as much beer as I wanted.By the end of 2nd month I had gained 30lbs.I stopped here because I was getting edema (swollen ankles that stayed depressed when I squeezed) I didn't know that you're supposed to stay active (cardio, light weight exercise, etc) so i stopped cold turkey.I'm still the same weight 2 years later despite eating better and being more active. 165lbs, 5'5. Obvious squishy tummy but no where close to obese. Most of the weight is in my ass and thighs. I can jiggle them now and bf is pretty happy with them.Goal now is to lose the tummy or at least shrink it a bit but keep as much ass and thighs as possible
>>41126587i HATED pioglitazone because it made me super angry for some reason. Like id just fly off the handle and i realized it was that med that was causing it. never found a right dosage or took it long enough to really see any changes
I rly want to start pio, I already ordered some online. The problem is I'm very active and already have a decently low bf% because I'm into climbing, and gaining 20-3lbs would be pretty bad for that. can I start pio at 30mg and try to keep my weight mostly the same? gaining 10-15lbs over 6 months would be fine for me, and I could lose it again after and hopefully keep hip/boob gain
>>41128708if you don't want to gain weight I don't know why you would take pio
>>41128884I'm hoping for fat redistribution, so I can have less belly/midsection fat and more thigh/boob fat. If I could gain thigh/boob fat and then lose belly fat it'd be perfect. I'm ok with gaining, just not 30lbs in 2 months gaining.
>>41128911ahwell then yeah the solution is clearyou need to lose the fat by dieting first, then take pio to get it back in the areas you actually want
>>41126587bumpy road, take me home
>>41126587can you get away with drinking on pio? ive been sober on it for a few months, dont want to get off bc im still trying to lose weight but now im single
i’m 190 and basically 6ft should i loose weight before pio in your professional opinion?
>>41129514I wouldn’t risk it. Pio fucks with your liver and drinking in any amount that would be enjoyable is just rolling the dice. You’d be asking for liver damage
>>41126842>Global Pharmacy Plusthis doesn't need a prescription does it? the website seems a bit unclear
pioglitazone 30mg is objectively tested as more effective for weight gain than 15mg is, but 30mg fucking nukes my blood sugar. shit sucks.
>>41131184yikes thank you for responding, i had no idea there was hepatoxicity risk with pio
>>41126587i know the whole point is to gain weight on pio so should i lose weight beforehand? im 5'10 65kg, what weight should to be before i start and how much should i gain?also, some nona told me that pio is also good while losing weight, though that was the first and only time id ever heard that, is this true?
>>41126587I thought this was some shit about trannies lactating and I got excited
>>41132177no, that's domperidone
>>41132208Wow so if they take that they will lactateI don’t have a thing for lactating I just want to research the human anatomy and how gender transition affects the glands of the tits for biological males. I just need some videos aswell for my scientific journal
>>41132240yes, domperidone increases prolactin, which makes you lactatethere are a bunch of videos of it out there
>>41132259Wow anon thank you so much
does pio help with weight gain or just better distribute weight you're gaining anyway? im 6'1 and 130 and 10 years hrt so underweight and not been getting the changes i want
>>41132533it definitely helps with weight gain
People keep talking about the health risks and side effects, but like how real a concern are they? Like is it a bad idea to take them for a certain period of time or anything?
>>41126587i took it for 6 months. i started at 115ish pounds, gained about 30 pounds in the first 3 months then plateaued. however the results were very good. my ass and hips especially gained almost all of the weight, my waist line stayed slim. i got mine thru united pharmacies for quite cheap
>>41132630I’m probably most at risk of bladder cancer just due to bladder issues and 3 months no problems, no pain, no blood in urine. Bone density issues only become a concern after a year iirc
can I take pio if I'm already pretty chubby or does it only do anything if you're actively putting on weight?
has anyone used telyrx? do they actually care if you don't have a real diagnosis for type 2?
united pharmacies says suspended due to us tariffs :(
>>41134372i used them and have some
>>41126587either dragonordnance or dashpct has it… i forgot which one20mg ish is a good dose to start on and increase to lkke 30 if it doesn’t work. the side effect profile is pretty steep tho so good luck avoiding bladder cancer and the blood sugar effects and the skin pitting and other stuff too i guess.
>>41134900oh dashpct doesthough they're not considered super reliable nowadays
>>41127637Did they sell you a small amount for personal use, or is this wholesale only?
>>41126819I just bought some from a seller on Indiamart and it arrived a couple days ago
>>41135029May I ask which one? And if you're in the US?
>>41135008They will try push you to buy in bulk but I managed to get seller I found there to ship just 100 tablets
