>>41127111
this wouldnt have happened if women werent whores

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>if we enslave women, I might be able to have sex with some of them
I'm pretty incel adjacent myself but this is too cringe even for me

>>41127111
McReligion for a McCountry

>>41127111
They look retarded

>>41127111
We already know from how they react to trans people already. Why even make this post? Just trying to spread doom and gloom? Why is that all there is to this fucking board anymore? I fucking hate it here. There aren't even any more HRT tips. Even the fagslop greentexts are gone. Can't even pretend like we are happy anymore. Just "X News is Y. How does this make you feel?" This whole board reads like Xitter engagement bait now. The news is shit. It will always be shit. The next 400 zillion times someone asks this question it will still be shit. Some men hate us. Some don't. Some women hate us. Some don't. That's it. There's literally nothing other than that. These posts get us fucking nowhere. We are in another dark age. Fuck me.

>>41127144
I mean the board is shit now yeah but you can hide the garbage threads instead of sperging. sperging isn't going to make these threads stop

Imagine if the dems had spent the last 10 years solving problems instead of burning cities and blaming white males for everything

>>41127121
this is how men have dealt with women through history, now they have forcefully breed women who are not attracted to men at all as a result. we should let women choose their partners to bring balance into this world. most incels would die as virgins but thats a price we are willing to pay

>>41127265
Every study shows the right having more sex than the left

>>41127281
maybe with other men and trannies, not with women

>tfw want to date a dominant cis man
>but they're all becoming even more insufferable
I hate being alive

>>41127304
go outside, what you see on the internet is not reality

>>41127294
No. With women

>>41127111
Weird headline. The share of Christians uas been going down in the US for decades. Young women have also been leaving the church, so it makes sense that those left are the radicalized conservative male ones. It used to be that women were the more religious ones and men were less engaged.
Christianity might be on the rise among young men (haven't checked), but it's not on the rise in general.

>>41127309
I work outside, and I can confirm the ones out there are insufferable, too.... You didn't know this already?

Christianity and Trannyism are competing religions. How do we help more young boys to see the light of gender change before they become radical christoids?

>>41127121
>I'm so afraid of getting a job I cannot abide a fascist regime even if it's the only way I'll ever touch a vagina

>>41127402
>i have such a shit personality and such little game and am such an ugly, unappealing dog turd of a person I'll support genocide and crash the economy just to have a chance my overlords will let me rape a woman

kys your genes are too dogshit to be worth propagating and you know it

>>41127443
Most incels are left leaning

>>41127443
>trash the economy
Why do people say this?
What’s going to happen? People won’t be able to afford housing? People won’t be able to afford education? People won’t be able to afford healthcare? Oh wait…. That’s already the case. Go ahead trump, break this economy. It’s useless anyway.
I will laugh watching megacorps be forced to pay 100k per h1b
I will laugh watching farms go bankrupt after refusing to pay Americans a living wage for hard work. I will laugh at it all and there’s no stock crash that can take anything from me

>>41127111
99% are just in it for the promise of a trad church gf. Sex sells, not hard to understand

im christian lmao so not at all

>>41127312
No, with men

>>41127309
>real life is better!
This isn't 2018 anymore. Real life is worse.

>>41127488
this is cope and a lie but lets just pretend you aren't full of shit. 7402 sure seems like he'd describe himself as a fascist and he's the guy I was roasting.
>>41127508
desu true the capitalist system itself is corrupt and self-destroying, trump is a symptom of the deeper disease etc. etc. but lets be real accelerationism is pointless and retarded I'd rather the whole fucking system burned to the ground when im 40 rather than 30 so i can get 10 more years of drinking in first.

>>41127545
Things have gotten so much better than 2018
Fuck even comparing to 2024 things are so much better. It’s like problems are actually being solved. And there’s no endless parade of virtue signaling media shouting about how heckin evil white males are in every movie book and game

>>41127573
things got better for white males and got worse for everybody else

>>41127488
fucking lol

>>41127582
Equality always feels like oppression to the privileged i guess

>>41127488
Technically, yeah

>>41127610
>le gnottzis were socialists meme
take a look, in a book

>>41127568
You want a system to collapse when your in your 20-30s
Gives you time to recover and potentially retire after the choas. Younger and you die in the fighting or are traumatized. Read a real interesting paper on the outcome of europeans after ww2 by age bracket. The fall of germany was a civilization rupture total collapse. Ignores the people who got genocided but also for them the chance of survival is was highest for adults

Like religious women, it's just another LARP for them to look down on others. Actual faith has nothing to do with it.

>>41127111
I don't understand how people can become christians without either growing up indoctrinated in it or without being profoundly ignorant and desperate. Much of the old testament has been revealed to be untrue by archaeological discoveries that date to the 19th century. The very foundation of "the word of god" is clearly just an early attempt at a chronicle of a people combined with creation myths common to the rest of the region. I don't understand how you can "become christian" without it being a bad faith thing. You are going in as a non-believer and just denying your non-belief because of a desire to own the libs, or, more charitably, to be a part of a "tradition" because you feel your own life lacks structure or meaning and you are unable to pilot it yourself without that? It seems untenable from my perspective. An abandonment of trying to be authentic to your own feelings and beliefs. Even though I like and am inspired by much of the art depicting the gospels and religious devotion that emerged from catholicism/eastern orthodoxy, I could never embrace them given their history.

As for american protestantism, I went to a folk art museum recently. Around 75% of the works were religious in nature, from people with little art training who clearly spent a lot of time and effort trying to express themselves and depict how they saw their lives and their world, which I found admirable. Bu what really struck me was how childish their expression of religion was. By that I mean their whole view seemed formed in childhood. It wasn't nuanced, you could feel behind it the sort of warning phrasing of a stern grandmother telling you what to do or not do as a 5 year old child, to both instruct you and control your boundless energy by fashioning an idea of a scary world with hell as punishment. It was like the artists' brains had been branded young and then stuck at that age when it came to religion.

>>41127121
It was the only way to make sure all the men had jobs and thus women depended on them

There was plap and lots of children

>>41127878
Religion is never about faith. Everyone made fun of reddit atheists because they thought they could disprove religious myths with fax and logic but completely missed the point of religion as the way tribes define and reinforce themselves against enemy tribes.

>>41127878 cont.
at the same time, I felt like I saw the same childishness as a secular adult who has something like Star Wars imprinted on them as a child. It's a franchise that is pretty cool and enjoyable, but also childish or adolescent. To form your whole personality around venerating it seems warped to me, like you aren't fulfilling your potential to think about the world and engage with other things, your childhood branded you in a way that is somewhat wounding.

This is all just to say that I see how religion or secular things can take root strongly from the same childhood impressions, but how would these childish views of the world convince anyone raised outside of that tradition? Millenial "geek" men famously fail to even "convert" their more normie wives to being into their hobbies and obsessions, why would religion be any different? Can you really mold your entire life around pretending to believe in stuff and dressing badly to fit in with knobs just to get hole?

>>41127144
It's weird but it honestly feels like SOPHIE dying set trans culture back 50 years

>>41127878
It's because lots of young americans are growing up indoctrinated in it and/or are profoundly ignorant and desperate.

>>41127912
I guess there's enough people like this around for it to be viable, but being that way is difficult for me to comprehend. It's why I don't trust those who are religious like this. It's like those who are ignorant or indoctrinated young get security from it, and those who are more powerful and adhere to it in bad faith get more power from it. I see it all the time when so-called christians who lurk here post about how trans time is up, etc. Extremely irreligious, entirely about power.
I just have to muse and post my thoughts and experience about it even if I basically already know the answer because I can't imagine being moved in the ways that some people are.

>>41127111
>in a survey of 5000 34% of men are religiously unaffiliated, which is less than 40% of gen z women
It's a survey of 5k people, and the survey itself is by a christian group that wanted to know why women are leaving and not men(It's because of abortion if you read the article)

>>41127933
>>41127878
For a lot of men it's an easy way to be part of a community because their social groups got fucking slaughtered during the rise of feminism. This isn't entirely a bad thing since they were entrenched power structures that kept gender roles super strict, but no one replaced them with anything to match so lots of men are really prone to cults of personality like church leaders, politicians, and dudebro influencers.

>>41127984
I mean if you look into religious attitudes historically true believers were as rare as they are today. Ordinary people grew up with a faith that they had little real understanding or investment in but they knew that everyone they know from birth professes the same faith including their lords and their lords' lords. And if an enemy tribe invaded and took them captive, many would convert to their religion to make life easier. Aside from autists normal people won't rock the boat in the name of truth unless they are certain it will payoff for them somehow.

This will happen more as people get poorer. Religiosity and poverty is correlated 1:1.
People are only tolerant if they are comfortable.

>>41127633
that’s not what I was saying, politchimp

>>41128002
no one can turn someone towards satan quite like a fundamentalist christian can

>>41127111
Do you think many of them actually believe it or is it part of the cope/LARP
Personally I think the original wave pushing this like 5 years ago (Nick Fuentescore retards) were gifting, but modern zoomers actually believe in the Christ meme

>>41127341
the decline has stopped and religiosity among young people in multiple countries has gone up. the only difference is people like in this thread left liberal mainline churches so christianity is now more right wing but still as influential

>>41127111
You'd be surprised. One of my regulars is a regular churchgoer

>>41127381
they're not

Those dorks will never fuck good and make too much eye contact with women in public and become kinkier than the kinkiest trans girl

>>41128058
you were saying you have to successfully rape a woman for her to have a pregnancy to force to term (hence why "incels are left-leaning")

>>41127878
>-You’re special for doing nothing.
>-You are loved unconditionally.
>-You win prizes in the afterlife (losers in this life actually get the MOST prizes).
>-Your enemies, whom you can’t defeat in this life, will be punished in the next, while you watch and laugh from a cloud.
That’s an easy sell for a lot of people.

>>41127878
i was raised atheist and thought long and hard about religion and christianity and came to find that to me, the belief system makes sense. you're not smarter than everyone else because you're an atheist, many influential scientists have been and are christian. i find this very condescending

>>41128098
wow
it's literally trannyism

God wanted to offset the sense of decrepit slavery and loneliness that males experience.

>>41128088
Are you saying that because you syncretic christo-tranny? I know there are a few of you on this board but that doesnt mean that Christianity and Trannyism arent having a larger cultural conflict.

>>41128018
what do you mean that their social groups got slaughtered bc of feminism? not that I don't believe you, I just don't understand, so if you offer an example it would make things clearer.

I work around a decent amount of guys in their late teens and early 20s (catering) and they seem to bond mostly over sports, podcasts, martial arts, gym, cars, clothing brands they are into and sports betting. they also seem to be mostly right wing. they talk a lot about girls but never seem to be dating any, even though most of them are quite fit and attractive. but i think they only really like the type of relationship they have with other men like them and being friends or lovers with women is less comfortable and interesting for them. i've never heard them talk about religion, though, even if half of them probably come from catholic background (latino).

>>41128133
yes, im christian and trans

yes, christian leaders and trans leaders are having a cultural conflict in america

but the question was if they're fundamentally opposed and I disagree

>>41128175
That wasn't the question. The question was how can we convert young boys to Trannyism before christoids get to them.

>>41128195
>Christianity and Trannyism are competing religions

>>41128201
That's a statement of fact not a question. Nobody needs to hear your Christian tranny take rn because you are essentially a traitor to both sides.

>>41128175
sorry if this seems esoteric, but do you have any feelings about eunuchs in the byzantine empire and the orthodox church of the time?

I was reading about it recently and it was interesting to me that they were allowed to be priests and even patriarchs in the church and often were the only ones allowed to do services in female spaces like nunneries. They were also sometimes banned from all male spaces like monasteries because they would incite lust in the monks.
I know being trans is different from being a historical eunuch in that society, but I see the (often contradictory) roles played by eunuchs in that society and that church as an interesting counter to contemporary religious conflicts in America with transgenderism.

>>41128208
a considerable chunk of christians stand more or less by my side, christianity is not a monolith

>>41128226
i don't know enough about eunuchs to that extent. the one thing i associate with eunuchs and christianity is the biblical story of the ethiopian eunuch. one of the first gentile converts to christianity was someone excluded from religious institutions because of being seen as unclean because of the way their gender/genital/sexual reality was seen.

rejected by the temples, accepted by christ's church

>>41127381
then explain me, a christian troon

>>41128232
sure thing jan

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>>41127111
YOUR GOD IS DEAD AND YOUR FAITH IS DEATH, CULTISTS

>>41128285
Syncretic faiths are nothing new but they are usually considered heretical by the orthodoxies and get purged first

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Old headline guys

>>41127121
I warned you this would happen, but nooooo, you just had to embrace hypergamy.

>>41128302
full quote
>God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it?

>>41128340
nietzsche was a pussy little BITCH and I am not fully quoting him so much as riffing off his conclusions in a different direction

faith, itself, is the death of reason

>>41128285
hi sister

>>41127111
Christianity is a psyop

>>41128360
the dream of reason brings forth monsters

>>41128435
the dream monster is a manifestation of castration anxiety

>>41127933
>>41128250
I didn't know about the story of the ethiopian eunuch. that's cool.

so is radical acceptance of all people and the possibility of their redemption the core element of christianity to you?
Do you see that message as overcoming all the negative elements in the history of various churches and representatives of christianity?
Also, were you raised christian?

Apologies for the incessant questions, but I'm >>41127878 and
>>41127933
and I'm a trans woman who wasn't raised religiously as a choice by my parents, even though my father is religious (he says he has a personal relationship with God now, but was driven away from religion when he was a teenager until his thirties by the church he grew up in). So I'm just interested in how other people see religion/God when I personally feel difficulty connecting to it. I talk with my dad about it pretty frequently.

zoomers will be the ones who unironically regress the US to a third world christofascist hellhole that will make russia look like a firstie utopia

>>41127111
They ain't going to get much pussy/bussy/thussy dressing or acting like that.

Most of this is performative; the majority of them will get bored with their feeble Charlie Kirk impression in a few weeks or months when this finally dies down.

>>41128201
If anything, Christianity makes kids homophobes.
Which means the gay boys turn to HSTS.

So it turns out that those men aren't actually going to church because church numbers are continuing to fall across the board. They're just claiming to be religious because they want submissive pussy

>>41128447
nothing left to castrate. freud is enjoyable but ultimately nonsense. psychology is a parlor trick, like cold reading. the artistry it demands prevents it from attaining to science

>>41127111
>Americans
>Rightwingers
>Turning to Christ
They're actually turning to Satan and evil but Christians have always had a hard time telling the difference

>>41128579
Oh and churches have tried to attract them by hosting dating events but those quickly fizzled out when the actual religious women refused to go after the first time because these guys treat them worse than actual religious men

>>41128507
i was raised atheist. radical acceptance of all people and the possibility of their redemption is core of christianity to me, yes. humans are fundamentally flawed, and yet full of grace, our salvation was provided to us. a gift we don't deserve, and yet, all we have to do is accepting it. it makes me sad when people use it to discriminate against people.

>>41128091
Im saying incels are left leaning because involuntarily celibates are in my experience guys on the left. Rightwing incels are mostly volcel and not even trying to get girls. Dipshit.

>>41128583
>nothing left to castrate
Assuming castration is a form of defense against it. I am not fooled by your parlor trick, we can still find something to castrate in you.

>>41128799
>assuming castration is a form of defense against it
siggie had a fat unlit stoge in his mouth, coke snowing from his nose, and "beyond good & evil" sticking out of his ass when he wrote this shit. he and carly simply wish to have been nietzsche (which is a very sad thing, if you know anything about nietzsche). i mean, carly was worse bc she just wrote all philosophy off as a useless symptom of repression (he thought all "symptoms of repression" were useless)

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So apparently christians believe the rapture is this week and they're scared their pets are going to go to heck

>>41129001
sorry, but i have to side with dworkin on this one. at best i could see her as a duper victim, but you don't get to do shit like this and then pretend that you have anything to do with feminism

>>41128579
are the kind of women who want dominant men going to tolerate fucking incels? i doubt it

>>41127130
Got em! You're still going to the camps though tranny

>>41129052
Yeah but she's got a really nice body and if you looked like that and someone handed you thigh highs and said put these on we're taking pics, what would you do? Say no? Lol.

>>41129001
no thats a handful of evangelicals

>>41129154
can and have. not to claim that i look like her. it's remarkably easy to say "no," even to things you really want, once you get the hang of it

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>>41128695
You know exactly what people are talking about when they say incel.

>>41129245
But the question was if you did look like her

>>41129078
They don't, hence the problem

>>41129338
i would still say no, that's correct. even if i looked like her. like i said, i'm very good at it. probably one of my greatest strengths tbpachon

>>41129246
>guy I don’t like

>>41128149
A lot of entrenched male spaces(male social clubs, fraternities, male-only colleges, etc.) were exclusively for men. Feminism challenged that and in many cases brought lawsuits to allow women into those spaces. This made sense since if you weren't in those spaces you couldn't access the levers of power and prestige, but it also meant men had no spaces to go to that were exclusively 'for men' and what few remained were stigmatized. Think shit like the Elks club. Add that to the general dissolution of the nuclear family and social cohesion and you get what you get now - dudes clinging to Tate-likes and shit.
Men are having trouble adapting to modern dating and have checked out.

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>>41129439
Wrong, but you knew that.

>>41129860
theyre all trannies waiting to get their eggs cracked

>>41127111
Trannies will convert.

>>41129957
no offense, sis, but based on what you said in /fchasergen/, the dealing with transphobic peers, looking for loopholes to get married in the church, and agonizing over whether to get gender affirming surgeries or not is not going to convince any trannies that didn't already grow up in the church.

>>41127121
The most pathetic part is they really think that they would get a slave tradwife in this scenario and that they wouldn't all be owned by like 12 billionaires.

>>41129860
>people who i don’t like
Anyways, incels don’t look like this at all. What are you a Facebook mom in 2018?

>>41127568
The ugliest human males on earth (redditors and discord mods) are all left leaning, usually ultra progressive communists.

>>41130773
True. The /pol/ meetups mog the Reddit ones (both are ugly but Reddit is a special class)