Remember how I warned you them going after trans people was a slippery slope and women and gays were the next target? I would like apology please.
>>41158463When have hardcore conservatives not been going after women though
i support legalized hate crimes against them.
>>41158463>women shouldn’t die in wars, that is a man’s duty >“OMG they hate women!”Retard
>>41158492>When have hardcore conservatives not been going after women thoughAnon are you psychopath by any chance? Do you have any clue just how "anti-women" really is? That's the understatement of the century. They repealed something created in 1951 under George C. Marshall and upheld by every president until now. This isn't a "normal" administration, this is a Hitlerite regime.>Former Defense Secretary George C. Marshall created the committee in 1951 under President Harry Truman to increase the number of female servicemembers and open up new career fields.
>>41158522yea I'm sure the guy who remained it the Department of War is really concerned about that. You dumb stupid useful idiot.
I mean, why should women be encouraged to go into the military? That is just common sense
>>41158587>I mean, why should women be encouraged to go into the military? That is just common senseSure let's ban gays while we are at it? See how this works anon. Do you know what slippery slow is?Removing minorities from the military is the first steps towards genocide.
Straight out of Nazi Germany and Hitler.
>>41158627if you are going to use ai please at least make sure to post actual primary sources of the material since ai can hallucinate. im not even saying this as a chud
>>41158522What about all the countless jobs in the military that will never be anywhere relatively near active combat, why can't women do those 100% safe jobs so we can keep our capable men free for the dangerous work?
>>41158522>Budget in trillions >Millions of job opportunities >"military career = dying in a warzone" Right wingers will always appeal to logical fallacies abd outright lies, it's the party of misinformation and it's by design.
>>41158645>not an argument
>>41158714those are men's jobs. A woman's job is to breed babies like a good little girl
>>41158753>Right wingers will always appeal to logical fallacies abd outright lies, it's the party of misinformation and it's by design.These are people that think abortion is murder and a women should die giving birth. You are dearly with straight up retrograde reactionaries, the monarchists that fought against the liberal revolutions of the 19th century.
>>41158777>those are men's jobs. A woman's job is to breed babies like a good little girlThis isn't the 300 BCE. My grandmother (born 1918) was a yeoman in World War II, working in naval intelligence in Washington D.C.
>>41158587Because they can? It's a career opportunity that can mean a better way of life for millions of women. They should be able to choose their way of life and have an opportunity like anyone else, as long as they can do the work. And there's a whole lot of work in the military that doesn't need brute force. There's bureaucracy work, maintenance, cleaning, intelligence, organization, financial, there's literally millions of available opportunities of work that don't require physical abilities beyond what a woman can give.
The modern right is rebranded Nazis. See the Nazis won in the sense they took over the US ruling establishment after World War II with Operation Paperclip and integrated with them. The Republican Party is now a Nazi party and Donald Trump is the modern day Adolf Hitler. I'll let you infer what needs to be done by saying that.
>>41158820We call them reactionaries because they react to what ever change or progressive with emotion and not logic. Cave man think, ME NO LIKE ME SMASH
>>41158463when i used to play paintball all the time, the team with the girls on it always lost. unless they had the numbers. but in a squared up 5v5..the team with the girl on it had a harder game.cause guys are gay.
>>41158834And you know what's worse? Due to its proximity to /pol/ one click away, 50% of this board is comprised of them, at least. We are surrounded by these malicious agents who seek only to instill dissent in queer people and stir the pot of division
>>41158878yup, we have no idea who is LGBT here and how is a /pol/ straight infiltrator, who is 75% of this thread.
Going after the abomination that is 'trans people' is an entirely sane thing to do within a civilization that operates most efficiently with a male-female dualism. There is no room for the awkward and haphazard third wheel you seek to inject into a very critical and sensitive moment of our growing planet, and you out yourself as a hostile alien soul even more so with these continual attempts to cling to our women and scream 'DON'T LET THEM RECOGNIZE HOW STRANGE I AM OR MAKE ME NORMAL! YOU'RE NEXT!'.There is nothing wrong from discouraging women from entering military units that will 99% of the time experience death: feminists may decry it as chauvinistic, but seeing a male comrade blown to pieces is demoralizing enough - seeing GI Jane raped to death and covered in subhuman reproductive juices while being beheaded? No. There is simply no need to allow or, worse, as your evilly divisive 'equality' would permit, welcome it. Outright total prevention of female soldiers, however, will never be allowed, as the trope of the viking warrior women/amazon tribe women (while overused and overstated in media) is a very real thing - there are plenty of women that are more than badass enough to fully function on the frontlines of a war deployed marine unit - maxing out male rated PT tests etcetera - but they are rare, and your ideology is especially sickening whenever it successfully fools a naive young woman into believing themselves totally equivalent to males.The panel should instead be reoriented to point females towards combat roles they are often far more effective in. I am sure you're intelligent and feminine enough to figure what those are on your own.Sad and too easy punching down stating obvious truths, but you need to be told the truth so that you may return to the light, however painful the process of shocking you back into sanity may be. There will be a time when science allows disobedience of bioprogramming, disagreement with genetic destiny, but it aint today
>>41159216Fuck off nigger.
>>41158714>>41158753Women have nowhere near the general skill and competence levels of men and shouldn’t be involved in high-stakes matters to do with defense. You guys know this which is why failed male athletes use transgenderism to have an edge over females. This is how you’re able to so confidently threaten females with violence for not accepting you as one of them. Why are you pretending not to know this? Don’t play dumb with me you shameless narcissist
>>41158597>Sure let's ban gays while we are at it?Gays are bad for morale. You can’t form a “warrior brotherhood” in battle with a gay guy if you don’t know whether or not he’s looking at your ass before you breach a door. They also have no children and therefore are less motivated to die fighting to secure the future of their country
>>41159216>There is no room for the awkwardRemember that the wheel never stops at trannies. Make sure you're not on the blacklist before supporting authoritarianism and genocide
>>41159216lol you posted a meme from the stupid incest game that is blended with a game that isn't as good as its sequel
>>41159276>You can’t form a “warrior brotherhood” in battle with a gay guy ifdefeated the Spartans and remained undefeated for decades in a savage world. Homophobia is bad for morale
>>41159276There’s already gays in the military tho I was one of them. You’re reasoning is retarded if you’ve ever been to any fratbro/lockeroom environment and seen how dudes act
>>41159276you have never fought in acutal combat. the war you see kid is over the doritos on the x box. cause last thing soliders think about im combat is that.
>>41159248my grandmother was a yeoman
>>41159276>warrior brotherhoodThe only real warriors are those outside of America. The American military mostly serves as a make-work daycare for men as 99% of the work is done by spec ops teams and drone operators.
>>41158463I mean, I think there are women that would serve our country better than a lot of other men I know.It only becomes a problem when it’s the dei shit.
>>41158463Where's the problem? Women shouldn't be in the military, cis or trans.
>>41158463>militaryDo any actual trannies even want to join the imperialist genocidal army?
>>41159420The rate for trooning out is like 3 times higher for veterans compared to normal population. It’s a repressors dream job if you think about it
>>41159314Spartan society collapsed on itself and they went instinct precisely because of their bizarre insular purity spiraling and warrior ethos, very similar to the Ouroboros snake, except picture a man fucking himself in the assAlso no matter how much you cope about Greco-Roman sexual norms, it’s still a matter of historical record that they saw taking the passive sexual role (getting fucked, sucking dick) as shameful, submissive, feminine and humiliating to one’s manhood. You fags always deliberately leave this part out
>>41159316You never saw combat and never fired your weapon, nobody is talking about weak pussies like you. And if those guys in the locker room knew what you were secretly thinking about them they would have beat the fucking shit out of you, no matter how much you want to cope and sexually fantasise about how they were “secretly bi curious” and “recipcroated” the feelings you had towards them
>>41159414That’s honestly a retarded take. Women may have a physical disadvantage. But they can make up for it with both skill and with the fact that soldiers from other armies are horny. Infiltrate and sabotage.
>>41159350I have multiple arrests for street fights and train MMA most days. You have never even raised your voice at another man in a verbal confrontation. You would very literally physically cower and try to make yourself appear small if we met in person.
>>41159448I did tho and I was a medic. being gay doesn’t mean I was fantasizing about them retard. You have a terminally online perception of how people think and act
>>41159454No they can’t “make up for it with skill” because men can learn all physical, cognitive and spatial skills better and faster than women can. Stop coping and trying to make human beings into this formless, indistinguishable “Play doh” concept>IF THERE WERE NO OBJECTIVE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN MEN AND WOMEN, THEN YOU WOULD FEEL NO PSYCHOLOGICAL NEED TO “TRANSITION” BETWEEN THEM
>>41159441Tbe band of Thebes weren't spartans, dumbass. Didn't even read the picture.
>>41159472You never even heard a gun shot
>>41159518>avoids what I said about the universal shame of the passive roleDidn’t think so.
>>41159532You were talking about gay men being bad for the military. But when presented with evidence that contradicted your claim, you had to talk about something else entirely. So it turns out you were not so right about the military, and other things. But you're also not arguing honestly.
>>41159522Keep coping pussy. Larp and puff your chest out on the internet all you want. It’s funny you retarded chuds never have the balls to join the military and think you can have an opinion on who should
>>41159473I don’t give two fucks about the trans bullshit. And I don’t want tax dollars paying for any of that. I just think that (at least in the modern age) there are PLENTY of young women who could out perform young men.What’s the statistic these days.. It’s almost like.. if we want healthy soldiers.. maybe we should accept people from both sexes.
>>41159561Ha ha, you admit you NEVER EVEN HEARD A GUN SHOT. Ha ha. Ha ha.That one really got under you skin, which is why you broke your smug character and exploded with emotion in this post. Ha ha. Trying to act hard and got exposed.
>>41159441>they saw taking the passive sexual role (getting fucked, sucking dick) as shamefulBut they still did it. Mostly with younger men, but they still engaged in homosexuality as a society. It was spoken against by moralistic figures of renown, but it was still part of society, not very different from today. A complete opposite of later christian and muslims societies, which banned the practice entirely and persecuted homosexuals for centuries.The irony that the Catholic church would becoming the leading institution in pedophilia for more than a thousand years until very recently
>>41159555>some fag 2000 years ago speculated based on anecdotal evidence that maybe gay dudes bonded in wars and that this could have helped them >“THAT IS GOSH DARNED FRICKIN PROOF!!”
>>41159575I already said I saw combat before. You’re a sad pussy who couldn’t even think of joining. A hypermasculine front to hide what a coward you are
>>41159585It's more like an entire army of homosexuals achieved martial excellence and military supremacy in a highly disputed region, for 50 years. Famously defeating one of the fiercest armies that have ever lived, the Spartans. Putting to rest your claim that homosexuals served as some sort of impediment for warfare. History shows your homophobia is the impediment
>>41159575anon you are on the queer board. Everyone knows you are a closet case putting up a mask.
>>41159604No you didn’t. What did you “see”, you lying faggot?
>>41159608You can’t expect insecure chuds to handle facts. They they think charlie kirk was a “warrior” when all he did was take one to the neck lmao
>>41159620I’m not closeted, I just don’t have to cope about how being gay is some magical superpower or is equal in value to heterosexual reproductive instinct. It isn’t. Being a man is having the dignity and poise to accept that truth without throwing a pathetic tantrum You can’t make a baby come out of another man’s ass. I didn’t make it that way, “homophobes” didn’t make it that way. Nature did.
>>41159632Call me a liar all you want. You’re just an insecure pussy who’s mad a faggot has more balls than you
>>41159632You can hide from everyone but yourself. One day, that thick layer of repression will crack like concrete under tension. And small saplings will sprout like wild flowers, and a beautiful garden will take over your mind, replacing that grey fog of numbness that occupies it now. You will build this garden by yourself, little by little, thought by thought. Your presence here is the first step
>>41159638Yeah dude gay guys are sooo tough. That’s why in high school every straight guy was scared of of getting beaten up by the tough gay jockThat’s totally how human social dynamics work, as you yourself have surely seen with your own eyes
>>41159620nta but I thought this was k lol
>>41158463why are you guys pretending that you think joining the US military is a good thing
>>41159646Why can’t you answer, you lying stolen valor faggot? Just proving my point about how gays are inherently dishonourable, I masculine and don’t belong in the military
>>41159661It's not, but you don't want queer people losing rights. Even if they take away your right to do some bullshit like the army, that will only precede other "bullshit" like working at any government job or holding any position of power. It's a ladder. Resist the downfall
>>41159652See >>41159642Nice try with the psychoanalysis, Hannibal Lecter. All that high effort typing for nothing. Total impotence
>>41159657Half of the tough "straight" jocks I went to school with performed "totally straight" hazing on eachother via gay anal buttsex and thought they were still straight
>>41159642>I’m not closeted>I'm just self hating >It's nature's fault!Remember that nature also made you the way you are.
>>41159657Masc gays exist we’re not all flamers. Does that scare you anon? The social dynamics are that I served my country and you were too scared to. Does this make you insecure?
>>41159683If you have to turn being gay into something it’s not then it’s actually you who hate and can’t accept yourself
>>41159683>nature>conveniently leaves out the part about being abandoned by a key male figure early in life
>>41159665You can’t handle the truth of me(a faggot) having more balls than you(a straight chud). Sorry if that makes you so insecure you have to convince yourself I’m lying
>>41159679>“I’m not alone I swear!! The heterosexual normal guys are actually the ones who are REALLY gay!! Everyone is secretly like me!!”Yeah this sounds like something a totally secure person would need to tell themselves.
>>41159708I’m not straight. I just know that you are lying and embellishing about seeing combat and you can’t tell a combat story because you have no combat stories. That’s all. Don’t try to twist this into anything else.
>>41159686You didn’t serve your country though. You never did anything. You could have if you were deployed and saw combat but that didn’t happen. All that money the government spent on you was for nothing, “just in case” they needed you (they ended up not needing you)
>>41158834Are you retarded? You don't send women to war because they are physically weaker and also birth more people. Biologically, men are just more expendable
>>41159657But you're not in highschool, anon. You're not bullying the weird gay kid in the cafeteria. You came to a gay board to bully gay people online, anonymously. There's a huge difference. Wanna hear it? Both the straight jock and the gay kid are at school nearly forcefully. Not that different from prison, they are obligated to stand each other's presence with little alternative. Sure the jock is a homophobe and he is strong and masculine, but he's not going to a gay bar to bully gay people. He's doing it in his lane. But you came here by your own volition. You came to a queer board, knowingly to surround yourself with queers. And you can't even hit them or shut their mouths. You can scream, but here you are obligated to hear the echoes of their answers and the tune of their thoughts. You can say you came here to bully queer kids all day long, and that's partially true. You did come here to bully others. But the part you're not telling us is why here. You could go to /pol/ and listen to the national anthem of homophobia, you could hear a choir of agreeing voices. You could actually go bully queer people in any social platform. You could surround yourself with anti queer hate and homophobic people who share your sentiments. But you don't. You come to the one place where you are surrounded by queers who have an opportunity to speak to you, and you read what we have to say. You really do. Anon behind that facade of hyper masculinity, of internalized homophobia, of self hatred and repression, there is a little gay boy screaming, begging for help, not knowing how to ask what you have been wondering your whole life ever since you realized you were different:>how can I love myself if I'm a faggot? And the answer to that, anon, is long, and hard. But your presence here is undoubtedly, the first step
>>41159657You can't beat anyone here though. You're here because you're too weak to bully anyone in real life
>>41159755Duuude just tell it to your fucking diary, this is actually getting seriously uncomfortableOh and sorry about your dad, by the way. That just have been tough for you
>>41159755>that pic>“behind every gay man is a molested little boy”You overplayed your hand here
>>41159740No you really don’t know I could share but you would say I made it up regardless. Can’t win with retarded chuds
>>41159763I have multiple arrests for stalking, menacing and threatening death, there’s literally a court case pending as we speak.
>>41159642In a weird way it seems like you're coping with your homosexuality in a very bad way, by antagonizing it. Like if you hated faggotry just enough, it could compensate for you being one. There a better way to cope, anon. Coping mechanisms are very important. They're our mechanisms of defense. They should protect you from a part of yourself that can be very dangerous: you inner saboteur, your doubts and your repression. There are better ways to cope. Nature allowed us this.
>>41159748Keep telling yourself that. At the end of the day you’re coping because you didn’t have the balls to join
>>41159771You didn't have to read it, but you read it anyway. You came here for that reason, to listen to queer people and what they have to say. And I have to say to you that you are the type of guy who's on a journey, and maybe that journey of yours is far from over, maybe you still have years of self hatred as you desperately argue with strangers online defending homophobic points of view. Maybe you have a few more years of loneliness and frustration ahead of you, and maybe that sounds grim.But after that, it gets better, anon. It really does. It will come to a point where you will look back to your older posts, not with shame or regret, but with pity for your former self. You will pity how hard you were on yourself. How much you didn't forgive yourself for being queer.
>>41158463So, why do the foids need an outreach panel to encourage them?
>>41159784>still arguing with homos anonymously Very edgy. Behind a computer. Anyway, the key to loving yourself as a fag is to first get away from sources of homophobia. You chose to be here, instead of the current gay hating thread on /pol/. That shows some progress. But it's not enough. There's a moment of epiphany in the life of every homosexual, like a switch going off, a lightbulb bursting into flames. A shortcircuit in the brain that makes us realize how foolish we have been for hiding, or hating what we were, or feeling shame. For some people I know, they're so deep in the closet, that it took a near death experience to trigger this moment. We pray you won't have to get that far. But once it happens, there's no going back
>>41159834>key to loving yourself as a fagYou literally instinctively refer to yourself by a derogatory term. 0 self awareness.
>>41159461oooh you're so badass ooh you're such a warrior getting into retard slap fights with other black guys in public
>>41159807>no correction about his dad Didn’t think so. Stop spreading the “nature” lie, you know it’s malicious and reprehensible. You want more children to be confused about their feelings like you were. Vampire
>>41159841It’s call reclaiming slurs
>>41159688>you have to turn being gay into something it’s notWho's doing that exactly?Remember whenever you appeal to nature for making the superior heterosexual lifestyle, it also made you along the way. Your presence here in the universe is integral and nature had a reason for it. In fact it wouldn't be possible in any other way. Homosexuals had to exist according to the laws of the universe. There's no nature without us, we are part of it as much as the breeders who birthed us.
We need a containment board for straggots
>>41159849Yeah that really worked well for black people
>>41159841It's not derogatory to me because I made it my own. I can call myself a faggot just fine. I made an armour out of the spite of homophobes in such a way that it can't hurt me no more. I can call myself a faggot, a queer, a fruity, a fairy, a sodomite, everything ricochets. It goes right through. Always misses. Never hits. I even have a personal favorite: plaguespreader. Makes me sound like a souls boss. >How does he do that? Is it a superpower?No, anon. It's self love. Self acceptance. These words can't get to me no more. They did, one day, when I thought like you. When I still worried about the opinions of others. When I was miserable, single, closeted and unhappy. Now everything changed. You will get there. There's no magic or easy way around it. But I have faith in you, and you should have a little faith in yourself too. In your power to love yourself no in spite of your homosexuality, but because of it. It's who you are
>>41158463These guys must be the biggest closet homos ever. Everything is about manly man maness or whatever.
>>41159869Gays don’t have high crimerates and have lied low in recent times
>>41159869The first step in reclaiming the slur is not caring when you're called by that slur. Most black people haven't reclaimed tbe n word though.
>>41159863>scienceHey tell me something: Why do your testicles produce sperm? What is the function and purpose of sperm? Is it for ejaculating into a vagina to make new life, or is it supposed to ferment in shit and then die inside another man’s ass? You should be able to answer this question honestly, since you’re about “science”.
>>41159847You can't assume that just because someone didn't bite your bait or engaged in your silly word games, it means you're right about anything. Nature made you who you are, a faggot. Such was the will of the universe. That you, in this life, in this existence, came to be a homosexual. Such was the will of the creator of the universe. It's the only life you have, the only one you will ever know, and you gotta make sure you enjoy it to the fullest
>>41159905>purposeI don't subscribe to jewish moralfagging
>>41159892No it’s about internalising negative stereotypes. That’s why blacks who say nigger tend to be ignorant, pants sagging thugs and gays who call themselves “fags” and “sluts” tend to be bug chasers with biohazard tattoos
>>41159918>evolution and nature are made up moral concepts Sounds like someone who isn’t coping at all and is totally comfortable accepting what they are
>>41159926Evolution led to some people being gay
>>41159905There are many ways around that thought pattern. You could still breed as a gay men. Your purpose in life is not deemed by reproduction. People who are unfertile don't just give up on life. They keep living. Life goes on with reproduction, but it doesn't stop at it. You must fulfill your life even without breeding. Your life is worth even without babies. And it's limited.Our bodies are given to us only once, and with it the hope that we make the most of it. Breeding is not for all, but life is for all. And it goes on. Like it's purpose was greater than just making more babies. It's purpose was to be itself.
>>41159905>purposeThat's one way to look at it. Other way is seeing our bodies having a reproductive function, that doesn't necessarily determine your fate, or your worth as an individual, much less your happiness in life.
>>41159926Evolution and nature produced the homosexual I'm talking to right now as you read this. It was according to evolution and nature that homosexuals came to be. The universe couldn't be in any other way than it is. Where there is complex life, there will be complexity of behavior.
>>41159921Not really. It's about turning the other cheek to people who use these stereotypes against you like some sort of weapon, as if you were responsible for the actions of any other person but mine own. I don't care if someone calls me a fag, or slut or a bugchaser, or thinks I'm one, because their opinion doesn't matter to my life. I'm my own person. I know what I am. I know I don't harm myself with dangerous activities. I know I don't commit crimes. My conscious is clear and I pay all my bills. I don't have to answer to these people or entertain empty accusations. I just have to be myself. Try it. Know thyself
>>41159784So you havent actually done anything besides be a deranged schizo retard
>>41159926It's funny because you are coping with homosexuality by hating it, while attacking people who are coping with it by embracing it.
>>41159773Kind of ironic to read that from his post when the closet case said it for him >>41159771
>>41160015>one minute apartIt's the same poster but nobody took a bite from his bait
>>41159977Did evolution and nature produce you or did your fathers actions and behavior produce you? And if the latter, what is motivating you to deliberately try to obfuscate this?
>>41160063Gays/lesbians are nature not nurture you can look this up freely
>>41160063My father's actions were guided by evolution and nature, as are my own.
>>41159847I fear you want gay children to be taught the skillful art of repression and self hatred like you were. There's two types of gays. Gays who want the next generation to not suffer what they've been through. And gays who want the next generation to suffer exactly like they did.
>>41160073>child abuse and abandonment is natural Ok, so homophobia and ostracism and persecution of homosexuals is natural too, since you want to play that game. But since you’re making this world view up on the fly, here and now in this thread, I don’t think you’ll have an answer to this
>>41160094>gay childrenOnly a fucking predator would even use this term. You want to create more of you so you feel validated. Joseph Rosenbaum vibes
>>41160132I wasn't abused nor abandoned, and most people gay people weren't either. I think you are still coping with your homosexuality by ascribing every negative effect possible to it. It's not a healthy coping mechanismThe universe made you the way you are, and that's the only life you will ever have. Make the most of it.
>>41160138You were once a gay kid, and you fought against it valiantly ever since, commendable really. Very resilient and persevering. But you are exhausted from fighting so long, anon. Trying so hard to fix something that isn't broken
>>41160150>I wasn't abused nor abandoned>“actually can I take back my first answer, I want to dishonestly reframe what happened to me as “not abusive or neglectful” because I realise that destroys my position No, too late. You said it was part of nature and therefore good. That’s locked in as your answer
>>41160150Yeah there already studies about prenatal hormone exposure causing it. And the evolutionary reason being kin selection .And If everyone who got childhood trauma turned gay then there’d be a lot more gays/lesbians
>>41160161Imagine a school teacher standing near a group of 6-8 year old children and saying “These are our straight kids! The boys love pussy and the girls love cock!”Imagine how disgusting, depraved and predatory that would sound to any normal. This is what is meant by the mythology that “vampires can’t see themselves in the mirror”. You’re so deeply sick that you think your sickness is “you”
>>41160132>homophobia and ostracism and persecution of homosexuals is natural tooUnfortunately so. Like murder and rape are also natural. All these things are abundant too. It's the job of a civilization to separate the wheat from the barley. To prohibit what harms us, even if it's natural. For many years society put homosexuality on the prohibited list, but it also permitted slavery and child marriage, showing us that their morals were biased and skewed in favor of the powerful and the rich, odds stacked against the meek and the minorities. It took a lot of fight to change things. As it will take you a lot of inner battles to change your negative conception of your sexuality. Sometimes you will lose these battles, sometimes you will win. But in the end, you will win the war, or so we hope. Slavery fell, homosexuality was brought to light again in the west for the first time in 2k years. Anything can happen.
>>41160170>: Studies consistently show higher self-reported CSA among gay men compared to straight men. A 2015 meta-analysis found gay men were approximately 2-3 times more likely to report CSA (odds ratio ~2.7) than heterosexual men, with rates around 15-25% for gay men versus 5-10% for straight men. A 1994 study of 1,001 gay and bisexual men reported 32% experienced CSA, compared to 7-10% in general male population surveys.You can’t fight the truth, you can only shatter yourself against it
>>41160175No one is doing that schizo also there are brain scans showing gays/lesbians have different brain structure. Thinking they can be groomed/traumatized into it is pure retardationhttps://www.scientificamerican.com/article/study-says-brains-of-gay/#:~:text=Brain%20scans%20provide%20evidence%20that,for%20heterosexual%20men%20and%20lesbians.
>>41160163you're trying to frame child abuse as reason why there are gays, as in cause and effect. And that's not true, it's a disservice to queer people who were never abused, but also to all the straight kids who suffered in the hands of predators and didn't "become gay" because of it.
>>41158522Women should die in wars. Women will never be men's equals until men and women are treated the same.
>>41160190What truth is that I didn’t experience csa how does this apply when it would need to be 100% to claim it’s environment and not nature
>>41160163>said it was part of nature and therefore good>Therefore goodOh that's where you greatly misunderstood me. I never said nature= good. If you read our conversation carefully, you will see that you're the one who brought up nature in the first place, trying to discrediting homosexuality here: >>41159642>Nature did it All this conversation stemmed from that one sentence, and how we are trying to show you what an appeal to nature sounds like. It seems as though you appeal to nature's calling only when suitable.
>>41160163>Gay is unnatural, therefore badActually here is the evidence of it being natural >Just because it's natural doesn't mean it's good!We know. That's the argument you made in the first place and we refuted it. This exact same exchange happened to me every single time I argued with a homophobe. You always make this fallacy and backtrack after being exposed.
>>41160190>15-25% for gay men versus 5-10% for straight men.So at the very most, 75% of gay men were not molested. Do you have anything to say to these men?
>>41160190>5-10% for straight men.If sexual child abuse makes gay, why are these molested individuals still straight?
>>41160234Yeah, stop lying to yourself
>>41160175>“These are our straight kids! The boys love pussy and the girls love cock!”Without the added vulgarity for shock effect, if those kids claimed to be straight, and were referred to as such, you would have no problem with it. As you have no problem with the actual grooming of children that happens everyday in church, where you first learned to hate what you are.
>>41160175Is showing straight love scenes in children's movies okay? Because it happened a lot, but you were never bothered by it. I imagine you'd be fuming if the opposite happened.
>"I take dicks up my ass. This should be celebrated, for some reason."
>>41160242my darling, you lie to yourself everyday when you subscribe to conservatism and religion. Your inner truth is better represented here, by your presence in the gay board
>I want to take dick up my ass, but I hate myself for it You will learn to love yourself eventually, after a lot of inner turmoil and mental exhaustion
>>41160258Masc4Masc gays are what God intended. Women are not capable of loving men only leeching resources and birthing children
>>41160132>homophobia and ostracism and persecution of homosexuals is natural tooHomosexuality exists in nature. Homophobia only exists in some societies
sometimes I feel like these clearly troubled gay boys come here to spurt all the homophobic arguments they have been bombarded with throughout their life, almost as if they're begging us for answers, asking us to teach them how to circumvent these self hating thoughts and the pillars of prejudice that sustain it
>>41160175>These are our straight kidsIf you were arguing honestly and wrote only that, you would realize how innocuous that sounds. So you had to add a mention to genitals to make it more pornographic, distorting your conclusion with a fake scenario you cooked in your very mind. Reminds me of this
>>41160270It's only woman nature. In a primitive society, men would fight and kill each other for women, so women growing emotionally attached to a specific man would be a waste of energy.
In primitive society, gays were fucking each other like crazy and you're still there banging your head against the wall, hating yourself for being gay because you learned that from church or school bullies
>>41160301This image was created by an ignorant person. Entertainment media has been engulfed by this progressive dogshit. All IPs have been destroyed due to postmodern progressive creatives not understanding the source material and changing shit. People that hate progressive ideology (aka "chuds") encompasses persons from the left wing, right wing, and the centre.
>>41160323>Engulfed by this progressive dogshitNot more than the conservative dog shit that creeps upon children all the time in adds and reels and shorts and all social media overall, where the right wing bias is strong and financed by billionaire lobbyists. You can't pass two shorts on YouTube without getting church adds, bible adds, and other conservative inspired bullshit.You know, the sort of influence that made you hate yourself as a gay kid
>>41160323>Chuds includes the left wing Lmao delusional. This "progressive dogshit" is the left wing, and we can sniff out a right winger like you from miles away
>>41160334>Not more than the conservative dog shit that creeps upon children all the time in adds and reels and shorts and all social media overallThat's an reaction to the progressive bullshit engulfing entertainment media.>You know, the sort of influence that made you hate yourself as a gay kidThis is exactly why the left are losing and will continue to lose: the constant assertions without any evidence and smugness. I'm not religious, I'm a nihilist that believes in hard determinism. I don't care if anyone is gay.
>>41160258>for some reason."The reason is celebrating freedom after 2 thousand years of persecution
>>41160341Yes, because leftists never disagree with each other.
>>41160366>That's an reactionNo, anon. Progressive bullshit is a reaction to the conservativism that held society back for centuries. That's not a reaction, it's conservative powers fighting to keep that power. You don't have anything to gain from supporting them
>>41160366>nihilist>Still hates "progressive dogshit" and being gay It's okay, anon. It gets better. The process of a gay person accepting themselves is a process of leaving conservatism behind. The label you give yourself is meaningless when your attitude and opinions fall elsewhere
>>41160376The race swapping of historical figures and peoples in historical depictions is something that you deem good?
>>41160366>constant assertions without any evidence and smugnessSo many chuds have done that in this thread alone and you're blind to it. The right wing is the party of misinformation for a reason. Your attention is very selective, dishonest, only highlighting whatever benefits your narrative
>>41160372The person arguing for conservative talking points on 4chan could only claim to be a leftist here because it's anonymous.
>>41158522Soviet union had female soldiers and everything was million times better there than is us currently. Women were outperforming men there 100 years ago.
>>41160382Swapping the race of a historical person just to fit societal standards? Man that's low. I wonder where they did that before...
>>41159580>But they still did itWith kids and young slave boys. Why are gays defending pedophialia
>>41160381What a cliche you are. I'm convinced you're not even human, just a bot. It's like you people are allergic to good faith.>>41160385My narrative is that I want good entertainment media. Progressives have shit up all popular IPs. If you think I'm approaching this from a right wing perspective, then you are ignorant.>>41160390There's no leftism, only leftisms. Your thinking is restricted.>>41160403I'm not religious. Both leftists and rightists are wrong to do this.
>>41160408They're not really. It's a counter argument to someone claiming that the ancient Greeks and Romans held homosexuality to the same prohibitive standard of later christian society. Again, the right winger spreads misinformation
>>41160416You haven't argued in good faith once, completely glossing over actual arguments, and making straight up false claims. Now you add projection to the list
>>41160416>want good entertainment mediaAnd gay people being part of that isn't an issue unless you have a problem with gay people in the first place. Now conservatism creeping its way to the younger generation through adds and invasive content? I wish you would worry about that with a fraction of the fervour you worry about progressivism
>>41160416>I'm approaching this from a right wing perspectiveYou are, really. Claiming a work of art has been ruined for including something progressive in it? Come on, anon. It doesn't get more right winger than that. Leftists don't run their mouth to talk about how shit progressivism is while being deafening silent about conservatism and their malicious practices.
>>41160416>Both leftists and rightists are wrong>Only criticizes progressivism while actively defending conservative views Don't be closeted about being a chud too. It's too much closetedness for you
>>41160421>completely glossing over actual arguments, and making straight up false claimsSpecifically, when did I do that?>>41160433Media is changing lore to accommodate the progressive notion of inclusivity. It makes worldbuilding feel artificial.>>41160440Changing the race of historical figures and peoples isn't ruining historical depictions?
>>41160448How I am defending conservative views? Criticising something doesn't mean you promote the other thing.
>>41160467>Criticizing progressiveness in mediaI would love if your criticism didn't boil down to gay characters being included in media, or races being changed, or any other meaningless thing that doesn't low-key reveal racism
>>41158463God I wish.
>>41160465>Media is changingAnd you want it to stay like it was before, washed of any queer character. Everything is changing. Life is ever changing. Constant change is the only pattern. Our freedom depends on those changes from a past that was brutal to us. But many conservatives cling precisely to that past. Don't be one
>>41160433Ironically, the younger generation has been "radicalised" because of watching people like you in action. The constant bad faith and weaselling out of things. Claiming "whataboutism" but doing it anyway.
>>41160465>Changing the race of historical figures and peoples isn't ruining historical depictions?Did it ruin Jesus' story?
>>41158463>its magically okay when its OUR slipperly slope.Both righties and lelfties are wings of same govermental orwell bir and useful idiots.
>>41160496>the younger generation has been "radicalised" because of watching people like you in actionLmao, right. And back in 1950, when there wasn't any of us in media, or anything progressive at all, what radicalized that generation? Children have been radicalized by church, religion and conservatism for at least thousands of years. It's a pattern that held up pretty firmly. Only now we have a voice, and a chance to de radicalize some of them. You're not seeing a conservative reaction, you're seeing the conservative tradition: fight change at all costs. Hold on to power. Never share it.
>>41160504Our slippery slope has a historical precedent that has been observed throughout history multiple times: minorities being persecuted into oblivion. The right wing "slippery slope" is just a fear mongering fantasy and not actual reality
>>41160496>Only the right wing is allowed to argue in bad faith I forgot you guys were the party of lies misinformation and fake news for a second
>>41160465>makes worldbuilding feel artificialBad writing does that. It's not because there's gays and brown people
>>41160482I just want worldbuilding to feel organic. If that makes me racist and sexist, I don't care.>>41160491Media is changing for the worse. I'm pretty sure they're losing money.>>41160497Yes. Changing the race of historical figures and peoples in historical depictions is wrong. I don't care if the right wing is doing it or the left wing is doing it.>>41160508>what radicalized that generationYou seem to think the progressive ideology claims the gays. People against progressivism aren't against gays. It would be like saying being against communism means you're against the working class.>>41160519I'm not right wing.>>41160529Yes, I know. People arguing against progressivism in media is against when it's done lazily. Or when it intrudes on historical depictions by race swapping historical figures and peoples.
>>41160554>just want worldbuilding to feel organicGood writing doesn't have anything to do with gay characters being included or races being changed. I know you don't care, your stake in this is fucking mainstream media of all things, when it should be your rights and freedoms.
>>41160554>when it intrudes on historical depictions by race swapping historical figures and peoplesThis is just racists coming out. None of you cared about Jesus race being swapped in every depiction of the bible But if someone made jesus trans or gay you would screech. Actually if someone made jesus brown like he actually was, you would screech. It's not about historical accuracy. It's about not wanting niggas in your movie.
>>41160554>Media is changing for the worseFor a conservative, every change is for the worst. More brown people and more gay people in media is for the better
>>41160554>progressive ideology claims the gaysIt does>People against progressivism aren't against gaysThe vast majority of them are. If you're different, you're the exception that proves the rule. The greatest beacon of fighting against progressivism is religion and church after all, the sources of homophobia
>>41160572No one is saying gays or blacks makes worldbuilding worse. If the The Elder Scrolls VI is set in Hammerfell I would expect and would want there to be mostly blacks characters. If a Zulu movie got made, would you be okay with white Zulus?>>41160578>>41160581If a Zulu movie got made, would you be okay with white Zulus?>>41160586The progressive ideology doesn't claim gays.>The vast majority of them areAnd you can prove this?
>>41160603>The progressive ideology doesn't claim gays.They do. Just look at the discrepancy in support of gay marriage from conservatives vs liberals
>>41160618Liberals and leftists aren't the same thing.
>>41160603>would you be okay with white Zulus?That's different since it's the oppressor taking the role of the oppressed.Which is the opposite of a black cinderela. It's the same logic behind white people being excluded from the privilege of saying nigger.It's the difference between making a straight character gay, and make a gay character straight. It's not taking the power dynamics of the groups involved into account. Tone deaf as fuck.
>>41160625They both support progressive stances on social issues like LGBT rights, which are the opposite of the conservative stance. Pick a side and make sure that side is on your side
>>41160642What if it was set before the white man showed up?>>41160646I'm not conservative, if that's what you're implying.
Bump so I can download thread later
the reason the soviet union survived world war ii was 30% of it’s military was women. axis were very sexist and won’t allow women into combat roles outside of the luftwaffe and even that was late in the war. america is literally following in the footsteps of nazi germany.
why do straights from /pol/ like we are supposed to care about your opinion? go back to the containment board.
>>41159933> Evolution led to some people being gay99% of these people don’t believe evolution is real.
>>41159787Stop with the fake sage condescending tone. Nature tries to correct homosexuality with AIDS and monkey pox
>>41158522Kys nazi
>>41158463racial segregation is next (arguably already happening again)
>>41162470> racial segregation is nextsupreme court already gutted voting rights and allowed racial profiling by ice. its already here. republican party has moved so extreme so far to the right they are to eight of hitler at this point. my mother even cried recently about how we have going backwards on women's rights in terms of Roe being overturned and now women being removed from military. i had a grandmother born before she even had the right to vote. i wish people would stop acting republican ms are human. they are nazi. only good is dead one is dead one.
>>41162407They bring it up when it’s convenient
>>41162532this was all inevitable when they even discussed overturning roe v wade more than 5 years ago, but nobody listenedproject 2025 was done and its results set in stone, and now we have to stop tolerating the core of the problem (which is faith) if we want anything to change for the better or it will just keep getting worse
>>41162445AIDS was created by the US government after they stole the classified Unit 731 infectious disease data. It was surreptitiously insinuated into the gay population of America as a form of eugenics to try and wipe out gay men. Unfortunately they didn't realize how many closeted bisexual men existed and it got out of control
>>41159473well if the women soldiers will also probably do less stuff like this I'm gonna call it a draw
Honestly I hate all of you and wish you dead. The spooks, the gays, the trans, my dumbass American countrymen and many many people besides have simply got to go.
>>41158800badass
What an odd thread. Very entertaining. Bump
>>41158463Sure, women want to go die for israel
>>41159657I mean I was a pretty out bifag in HS05-10I had a bobcut and pigtails and bullies were nervous about getting in fights with me. When they would talk shit my go to was "do you really wanna get beat up by the fag in pigtails in front of your friends"That being said I did have a slight reputation because I pummeled a dude for trying to bully me and for sticking gum in my hair. I kept beating him until I got dragged off by two gym teachers and then almost got hit with a hate crime charge until the kid was like "no I started it, oh and BTW I told my cousins not to jump you either"
>>41160381>The label you give yourself is meaningless when your attitude and opinions fall elsewhereFrom my understanding, nihilism means that you don't believe life has extrinsic meaning or value, and true objectivity is impossible due to the perception of reality being subjective (reality being a construct of your senses and subconscious, so you have to have faith what you're perceiving is true). So an nihilist's political opinions aren't set in stone. You can have right-wing nihilists, left-wing nihilists, and centrist nihilists. A lot of self-described nihilists just think it means "depression: the philosophy" and still believe objective morality exists despite being at odds with nihilism. It's because these self-described nihilists just treat it like a personality trait, and have a very superficial understanding of the concept.
>>41163177> to bully me and for sticking gum in my hairOoof that hits hard in the feels :( they mashed it in deep and got called a fag and punched in head/face, had to cut it off. I’m glad you stood up for yourself anon
>>41163177>almost got hit with a hate crimeusual suspects
>>41158597Why would I care about wanting to die for Zog, if anything they can’t draft me now if I do gay shit
>>41164158because the last time a minority was removed from military, jewish people in nazi german military, that was in perpetration for genocide. we are seeing the same with trans genocide. the national guard is domestic and its being used against us. its nazism.
>>41164211Great, when are they putting us in a concentration camp? We will be able to have fun and be together and then they will take care of unalive us so we don't have to worry about the logistics
>>41158822>>41158822>>41158822Republican militaries have intregrated to countries they have conquered. Julius Caeser Granted citizenship to anyone within the empire. French republican generals got French citizenship for black Africans. They also brought in 100s of 1000s of Algerians to replace the dead soldiers of WW! . Eisenhower integrated the military and schools , put the Turks in Europe. left the black soldiers in Germany to rape German women.
>>41164310>left the black soldiers in Germany to rape German womenWhy can't /pol/tards keep themselves from showing their true colors? Like, why bother with the pretense when your guy is already in power?
