im a scrawny 21FTM. get along with women so easily, cute girls hit on me throughout my life, im overall not a shy person. but gay dating standards are so fucking high? how you all live like this? and even before i passed men seemed to just be either repulsed or terrified of me or something. non-cis folks also never approach me. am i doomed? not that i don't appreciate that women are attracted to me, but i want to get out more. been attracted to dudes in my life but never went anywhere. am i just ugly or am i too stupid to do it right?
>>41162851Yes. You could make a Grindr/Taimi/whatever account fairly easily and have cis men flock to you.
would you date a scrawny cis twink?
Oh noDo you actually look like a poonah gender blob now?
>>41162899i would not date myself but i would date a any other scrawny twink for sure
>>41162984we should cuddle this winter
>>41162851Masc4masc is the gold standard and you are basically a straight woman who took T and is whining the upper tier gay men aren’t attracted to you. You are not doomed just find a bi chaser
>>41162903scary? you haven't even heard my airfried voice
>>41162989wake up this is 4chan
>>41162851How do you look like?Litterbox or unsee your choice
>>41163143both
>>41163082meow
>>41163005This is the way for all poonah and troonah
>>41163261poon u haul would hit hard this winter
>>41162851Post a pic. Lots of men would love a cute vagina twink
>>41163863ok i fold
>>41163911You‘re very good-looking and you could easily get cis men‘s attention on dating apps, as I mentioned in >>41162893
>>41163911Is that you? You are so fucking cute
>>41163934any tips on getting with irls? have several ppl im attracted to irl but have no idea how to play it right
>>41163954yes hi
>>41163971I wouldn‘t know, I‘m also a ftm but I‘m severely undersocialized.
>>41163989You are so pretty, how are you single even. Do you have a horrible personality or mental illness
>>41164009brother you and i both trt is making me so fucking horny i never knew i'd actually want to pursue people irl but here i am scheming how to bag a comrade
>>41164030i'd say both. rot at home all the time, emotionally closed off as fuck, failed at life. at this point i should probably sell my ass and jump off a building
>>41162851why would you go ftm if you like men anyways? you're just a girl at that point
>>41164035Good luck with that anon. I‘ve resigned to accept a loveless life by now, it is what it is
>>41164071Boys look good and vag is great, also possible bio kids
>>41164064Ok so you need to work on that. You are cute but get some hobbies and stuff and you will become a nice person to be around. Don't kill yourself, you are so sexy
>>41164071just say you have no idea what gender is anon no need to embarrass yourself like this
>>41164108this is so poetic anon thank you
>>41164094im infertile though no malebreeding in this barren land im afraid
>>41164151Did you get hysto? No saved eggs?
>>41164182im poor, i barely scrambled enough money to get t shots, im not a citizen where i live so no healthcare + family hate me. low key plan to fuck around for a few months, live good, and just exit
>>41162851I have to go to sleep but you are so cute. You will find someone, don't give up
>>41164244No, don't die! Its not worth it. You deserve more
>>41164247good night niceanon
>>41164262im still trying to live, i mean, all of us are it fucking sucks to be in the gender jail. i got hatecrimed recently and tried to kms. trying to live like it's my last hoorah ever since lol
>>41162851You could buy none of them will see you as a man
>>41164344i have plenty of people in my life who see me as a man. i don't understand how to pursue them
>>41163911You are so pretty pls don't kill yourself
>>41164340Thats horrible, im sorry :(
>>41164488thank you i wish i was rich instead
>>41164501tq comrade it sucks for us all here because why else would we be on the fucking 4chan lgbt board
>>41164421They don't. They humour you.
>>41164634you know not everybody in the world is a bigot right? your life sounds miserable if you never met people who affirmed your identity
>>41164650My identity does not need external validation. If the pic you posted is actually you then everyone in you life just sees you as a tomboy.
>>41164665yeah you sound like you'd know shit ton about my life. feeling so enlightened right now. get a life
>>41164680Seethe all you want. Doesn't change things. You can still get some gay men to fuck you but they won't treat you like a man.
>>41162851If you wanted to be with men you should have stayed female. No gay man wants a dickless twink. The best you can do is a FtM chaser.
>>41164757do you all actually transition to fuck?
>>41163911>>41164757This pic only further proves my point. Gay men don't want this. They'll play nice but they won't ever want you. Only bichasers and lesbian women will ever look at you sexually. Now stop seeking validation from gay men and find someone compatible for once.
>>41164769idiot, will you have the same opinion when you're a 30+ year old on T. i hope you do or else you'll be miserable and lonely. Also I didn't mention sex, you did. I said gay men don't want to be with a dickless twink/tomboy which is what you are.
>>41164802i just don't see how what we are attracted to should in any way affect our choices to transition. if you look at this board you will see a lot of masc people expressing attraction to ftms and ftm twinks. why on earth would i not transition if that is who i am just for the sake of making date life straightforward? all im saying is that it's a messed up priority to think that transitioning is just a choice and that it is in a rank order below dating. i'd rather die alone than live by your logic
>>41164779you definition of what a gay man should and shouldn't be is exactly why it's so difficult for most gay men to date
>>41164899Do what you want. Just understand how people truly see you and you'll have a better time dating. I just don't want to see another male attracted female regret transitioning because they don't look like a gay twink anymore and turn into a norwooding man.>>41164909No, gay men are dating just fine. I see gay guys shopping with their boyfriends and never has one been FtM. It's only you having the problem dating since you made this thread.
>>41165056i don't know a single ftm who regrets it, touch grass time old man?
>>41164899>you will see a lot of masc people expressing attraction to ftms and ftm twinksYou mean the FtM chasers I mentioned? Maybe you should try dating the perpetually online men on this board since those are the ones expressing a lot of attraction to you.
>>41165095You're still too young.
>>41165101i barely go on here but it's sad to see how people see dating here. why you all want to put yourself in boxes? im not denying that a lot of gay men won't want a masculine person without a dick, but why do you feel like all gay man are the same, and that ftms are not real men just because of their difference? that's just such a restrictive outlook on life, policing your masculinity you yourself a part of sounds like self-inflicted torture
>>41165188>still too young>was smart enough to double check the blatantly wrong info you sent with the original article outlining completely different research outcomesif you're so old and wise, maybe you'd be all the wiser to level up critical thinking skills?
>>41165300First of all I'm mtf and all the gay guys I've talked to not online irl don't like trans men romantically or sexually at all. You are niche and only a small handful of the population will successfully date you. That is life as any tranny. This isn't about boxes, it's about material reality and 99% of pure homo men don't want a pussy boy. You'll have a better time seeking bi men.
>>41165355why are you such a bitter loser im a gay guy and i would date an ftm
>>41165336Read under results where it says "transfeminine individuals had a higher continuation rate than transmasculine individuals"
>>41165368Then date him so he can stop bitching already.
>>41165368You are bi just like the cis “lesbians” who would take dick
>>41165390youre a disgusting incel on hrt and i mean that sincerely not in the reddit way
>>41165398I have a bf and we have sex every week. Cope and seeth pooncel
>>41165397uh oh it's the gender police wee woo wee woo officer he's right there
>>41165355all valid points. i guess i just had better experiences because i only express romantic interest towards people i get to know well. like first ensuring folks are not transphobic and then letting them into my life and building attraction. purely gay dating spaces like bars and apps give zero opportunity for this
>>41165408X>>41165397im actually a gold star gay
>>41165412Nope just calling out bi chasers who will validate gaydens to get pussy.
>>41165368>>41165398>>41165412samefag until proven otherwise
>>41165454lurk more retard youre not using that word correctly, also the third post was not me
>>411654692/3 isn't bad
>>41165377right, except:1. cessation of HRT does not imply detransition2. the rates in the study are far lower than fake data you pulled3. effects of T are more long-lasting than E, and it's easier to pass as transmasc guy even after partial treatment4. just because t-men are off treatment in higher proportion than t-women does not mean they regret it more5. study was conducted in the usa and your healthcare system is rigged against trans folks
>>41165477nigger i replied to somebody who replied to me that isn’t samefagging
>>41165438Yes gold star gays are famously known for dating twinkpoons with a vagina
>>41165412they just hate people having options huh
>>41165486ywnbam
>>41163911wld you date me poonboihttps://litter catbox.moe/jyswps6zveertfhl.png
anyway
>>41165336illiterate idiot
>>41165501
>>41165502not impossible but if you called me poonboi irl i'd probably kick you
>>41165568what about poon poon
>>41165746oh shit anon how did you do it
>>41162851I have been hit ALOT by men so I think most bi and gay men are strongly androphilic. Being a feminine man strongly reduce your dating pool.What kind of man are you searching?
>>41164909Bruh gay men do NOT struggle to date it's just YOU that does
>>41164779>>41164757>>41164802>>41164909I'm a semi gay man and I want him, you are projecting.
>>41167036Gay men are all crying cause non of them want to settle down or experience monogamy
>>41169898Tf is a semi gay man. Just say you’re a bi chaser
>>41169935Masc4masc do but op is not getting that as a twink pooner because the people who go after that type dump them when they masculinize/age
>>41170010Poons stay looking forver young cause their bones are fused. I don't think op needs to worry about that
>>41169951I'm not bi but mostly gay
>>41162851I hope you are ok op and feel better now, you are really pretty
>>41162851This looks just like my desk, except it's white Monster cans. Is this just what peoples' desks look like?? Also she needs a footrest, and some drawers next to the desk to put all that stuff that's on the desk because there's nowhere else to put it
>>41169898people just don't want to admit that attractive mascs register on gayday too, projection 100%
>>41171118OP here, thank you anon im drinking tonight so life is good fr
>>41169935As a transmasc im totally down to open relationships too if it's someone i vibe with not going to lie
>>41171179What does that mean even. Explain yourself
>>41171198Thats nasty, protect your pussy
>>41171186Have fun :3
>>41171302It's more like an occasional fuck / cuddle + not caring who else that person fucks you know?
>>41171298so many trans men pass, when you go out or catch them online as a cis gay man, you still have a chance of feeling attracted to them because they legit look like men, even if they're poons. and when you feel attracted, you might as well make it a relationship and bag them if you really like them. denying that this happens is either projection or transphobia
>>41162851As a bisexual I think FTMtwinks are peak, literally the best of both worlds. Unfortunately most don't want to be held to the standard of cis twinks or if not are just women calling themselves twinks.
>>41171532what standards do you think they should improve with? shaving or something.
>>41171525Yes, I agree with you. People might have genital preferences tho
>>41171620Shaving is part of it yes.
>>41171620Use veet or bleach your body hair
