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I am an FTM repper. I tell other FTMs that if you're over 5'5 or over the average female height, you should transition. If you're MTF and you don't need as much feminization surgeries, or if you saved up enough to afford them, you should do it. But I can't say these for EVERYONE because not everyone has a good base, and I am not a validation dispenser who will keep going "it doesn't matter how you look or how others would take you seriously" or "you go girl" if you're running towards a brick wall. Transitioning is something I don't just recommend to everyone willy nilly, but instead one should think deeply about how to prepare for it, be realistic with what the outcome will be and what they can get out of it, what they're gaining and what they're giving up.

Personally, I knew I will never be content with my physique if I transition from the base that I have. I never will be taken seriously or viewed as a man if I transition. Women won't look at me the same way.

I have a theory that most of transphobia is just lookism. A lot of "trans acceptance" hinges on whether someone reads you as desirable (for the gender you want to pass as), respectable, or powerful. Trans acceptance is dressed up in progressive language, but the underlying currency is still looks, status, and class.

I look around and notice that there aren't any openly LGBT people in high-earning high-power jobs except maybe one white gay guy who only came out after becoming CEO and unreplaceable/untouchable and he already comes from a wealthy family. I also noticed that when virtue signalling employers "hire for diversity" and "provide jobs" they mean they'll let transpeople especially afabs and enbys into service jobs like barista or janitor at the best but never into jobs where they make real money and make decisions. The coffee shop can make sign about treehugging and equal opportunities all they want, but do they PAY???
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>>41177776
I saw how a lot of partners of transmen talked about their partners. Most of them don't treat them like men. When cis female partners talk about their transmale partners, it's always as if they're describing a puppy, praising him for how convenient he is, or how "he can relate because he's like a woman and understands women!". It is never with the burning lust or desire that women talk about cis male partners they like. Also, I never seen a transman with an actually desirable partner, especially a female partner. Honestly that's part of why I don't transition physically, because I am reducing my options and I won't be satisfied "settling" for an obese borderline chick who fights other people for no reason and doesn't want to sleep with me, or a fat single mom who wants someone, anyone, to help her with her kids and she can't find a cis man to take on her shit so she latches onto a transman. Fuck all that, I want a beautiful woman looking at me with burning lust, wanting me AS A MAN. If I can't have that, give me fucking money instead!

I am glad I didn't listen to the "gender affirming" therapists who kept telling me to transition and "be my true self" even though I told them about my concerns. Were they gonna be the ones paying my bills because my barista job doesn't cover it? Will they be the ones sleeping with me if I struggle to find a partner as a transman?
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>>41177802
Instead of dreaming about "being accepted for who I am" or "just be your authentic self" because authentic self doesn't pay bills, I decided to focus on money and leverage in life instead. I understood the power of pussy and didn't disagree when cis men would claim "if I was a woman I would be a millionaire". I focused on my physique and looks, and people started to automatically like me though I wasn't particularly nice to them or anything.

Being a woman who "fits the script" unlocked gates that most people can't get past. I kept quiet about being trans and got job opportunities and ways to accumulate money.

Eventually I amassed gifts and money from men as well. I was gifted an 80k car one time. Right now I am getting my down payment covered by a man for a million dollar home under my name, he is my co-signer.

I started doing better than my family and friends who went to colleges and have respectable white collar jobs like doctor, lawyer, or other jobs with master's degrees. They were transphobic to me and publicly humiliated me once they forced me out of the closet. I ended up in foster home one time due to the abuse, and in my early adulthood I was homeless. Now they're seething that I am doing better than they are. They HATED me. They hated me when they found out I was trans, and they still hate me because I do better than them. They STILL go around talking about how I "wanted to be a man" 15 years later to people who would listen.

I am a multimillionaire in my late 20's, and I didn't grind in school for this either or overwork myself over an 80 hours a week job. I spend my days working out and doing my hobbies alone, or doing fuckall if I felt like not doing anything. None of my family members are multimillionaires, and I wasn't particularly modelesque either. But I leveraged my AGAB body to get ahead in life. I am relieved. I am smug. I am bitter.
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>>41177776
>spend time dyeing hair and crying about being last place in your polycule
>dont have as much time or energy to pay attention to work
>THIS MUST BE DISCRIMINATION
try getting good instead
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>>41177818
god only a roastie could waste time writing this retarded drivel lmfao. good thing you stayed as a woman because you certainly screech like one
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>>41177844
stay poor
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>>41177818
My mom did this— she became a trophy wife. She is miserable and insane in her mid 50s. I know for a fact she always wanted a career, and did want to raise kids. It’s pitiful, and she was not a good mom to me as a result.

The easy way out in life always has a price to pay. You either pay it now or later.
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>>41178154
>"The easy way out in life always has a price to pay"
In the modern world and historikally ,the prise for degenerate hedonizm and komfort without effort usually borne by and forsed upon others
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Fake and gay ao3 shit
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>>41177776
You sound like a woman and also insufferable
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>>41177818
You weren't dysphoric in the first place if becoming a prostitute and getting fucked in the pussy came that naturally to you.
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>>41177818
So you basically became a prostitute hired out for a couple million.

Now you have to be with the man that gave you this house to pay the mortgage, why would he pay it all at once? If he was smart he would just pay the minimum to keep you on a leash so he can use you how he wants you.
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>>41177776
You have to understand that the vast majority of lesbians especially those like yourself become gay (attracted only to men) when they start T and then most of your issues become irrelevant.
Take T, get on the cock carousel, get over it.
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>>41177776
I understand what you're saying and agree with a lot of it, especially
>Were they gonna be the ones paying my bills because my barista job doesn't cover it? Will they be the ones sleeping with me if I struggle to find a partner as a transman?
goes hard. But many trans people are too dysphoric to rep like that, and would rather be a broke clocky guy/girl than a successful repper. And that is something pretty much unfixable for them.
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>>41178643
The key is to keep your mouth shut and your head low and get the bag first. Save enough money to cover your transition fully or as much as you need to pass, on top of having enough money to get by for years while you go through the ugly duckling phase while transitioning. The transitioning phase is the hardest part because a lot of people get fired and lose income so they can't transition further nor keep a roof over their heads.
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>>41178643
also I get it, it gets unbearable sometimes. I attempted suicide in the past and I continued being suicidal until I decided to stop expecting "true acceptance" and genuine love and instead focused on money and rising up in life. At least now when I am dysphoric, I am doing it with organic grassfed stuff in the fridge and michelin star restaurant takeout in my belly, while sitting in a warm tub of water in my $3000/month apartment after a long day of doing fuckall besides hitting the gym. Instead of being dysphoric while working an underpaid job and getting into screaming matches with one of my five roommates over dirty dishes or stolen food, or girls humoring me while they eyefuck a cis guy. Both options were gonna be shitty but one is clearly less shitty
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>>41177802
>tfw no cis gf to treat me like a puppy
sigh...
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>>41178620
Oh wait sorry I reread the OP.
I see you're dating men anyways and yes you just view women as a validation tool for your masculinity. Classic gayden move.
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Early 30's repper here. I agree with a lot of the OP. From the lookism, the toxic positivity of many in the community, not everyone being cut out or even destined to actually transition, etc. Also feel similarly, trying to make the most of what you're given, even despite the dysphoria. I had the same trajectory but my house of cards crumbled. Like you, I felt I was doing quite well given how I was treated growing up and where I came from. Smug. It's likely my negative emotions (which felt justified at the time) was more denial I hid behind and used like a mask, until it was too late and the girlfriend, car, apartment, job, friends, life, finances, etc all vanished all too quick. At the time though, just as you said, it felt like quite a relief to finally feel like I'm 'making it', I believed it. I am glad you are doing well, but be careful of what emotions are truly yours and what your mind might be using to fuel that sense of relief, as for me the relief and denial clearly felt too similar until it was too late.

Ranting but to any anon reading you don't have to fully transition, but you should try to at least move towards finding and accepting who you may be. Not because it'll fix our dysphoria, but fully repressing or living in denial like I was seems to be a far worse option than just doing what you can. It's far from perfect, but maybe it'll offer you stability, and even the 'least shittiest' in a pile of shit options is still better than dying or living in hell.

I hope you OP also are still able to incorporate some of what or who you truly might be into your life. I don't think everyone needs to transition, but denying what we are to ourselves seems to be a losing battle every time. I will probably never transition, but I understand myself a bit better now, and hope to just do what I can with what I am, as you said. Truly hope whatever you choose to do works out for you, OP
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>>41177802
>It is never with the burning lust or desire that women talk about cis male partners they like
>ask average cis woman about her cis male partner
>they proceed to go on about how he's retarded but they are still in love with him
Well, he uses 3 in 1 in the shower, spits in the ground in public, and voted for Trump but I still love him...
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>>41177776
had me at first but went too overboard with the larp and ya lost me
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>>41179426
thats still different than claiming they adore their transmale partners for vaginal reasons like "he is so gentle and understanding" and "he is so cuddly i feel the need to protect him" or "he understands what being a woman is like, unlike real men, oops I mean" and other castrating shit
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>>41179426
That's how I want to be described. Men have more liberty to act that way and women will make 30 excuses for them. I know if I poon out I will never be seen as an object of attraction like that, I'll be lesbian lite and will still be judged differently than a cis male
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>>41179562
How old are the ftm being spoken about?
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>>41180485
20-60
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>>41178856
I feel that about the housemates. I'm on the shitter at 06:46 AM on a Saturday and was briefly considering stopping avoiding confrontation, but your post snapped me out of it. Focus on the goals, adjust strategy and tactics to maximize chance of success. That means keeping a low profile for the time being and getting out of this shithole as soon as it is wise



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