Gay people are still mostly pushed to the outer margins of society.
>>41180040No one cares that you’re gay anymore
its not ideal but life is mostly fine now, I think trannies are now where gays used to be but I think even for them things are ok enough
>>41180089>No one cares that you’re gay anymore
>>41180089Oh but they do. How would you know anyways?
>>41180100gays aren't mass murdering mentally ill nihilists
>>41180100>trannies are now where gaysAnd gays are where Jews were in Wiemar Republic. There was no legal discrimination against them persay and were allowed to be open, but they were still otherized. And in 1933, we all know what happened.
>>41180117>gays aren't mass murdering mentally ill nihilistsNeither are trans people you stupid fuck.
>>41180132t. mass murdering mentally ill nihlist
>>41180101This image is retarded. They can ban gac tomorrow and nothing will change for me. Gays/lesbians don’t need hormones/surgeries to exist troons are just hoping to use LGB as a shield for their nihilistic suicide cult
>>41180122I mean sure that could happen, the current administration is really sus but I don't think its sus in the way Nazi's were, if something bad happens it will be a different kind of bad.
>>41180104I have maga family members. They don’t care about people like david rubin or blaire white or care that I’m gay
>>41180142Trannies don't *need* gac either they just like it. Sort of like how you don't *need* to be married to exist, don't throw us under the bus god will punish you by making you troon out.
>>41180152>the current administration is really susThis administration is a Nazi regime. It's not just a little sus. They want to roll us back to 1800s.
>>41180162>I have maga family members.I'm sorry for you.
>>41180142Trans people do no needs GAC to exist either you dumb fuck. The first trans picket of the White House was in 1965, five years before stonewall.
>>41180162yeah I think its easy to overestimate how hateful conservatives are, its sort of a weird thing but a lot of them have a cognitive dissonance between "trannies" (transgender individuals) and "trannies" (thing they saw on the internet or whatever that wants to cut your kids dick off).This is how a lot of racists and stuff work too, its a little sad honestly because its often a result of good inherent nature clashing with propaganda.
>>41180162They think gays are disgusting and predatory.
>>41180222some do, some don't, a lot probably categorize gays like that but won't see a gay individual that way. It's honestly really weird, I am still a conservative rural retard at heart so I do it too.
Let gays be gay
>>41180167Yeah they could ban it and it wouldn’t affect me. I’ve heard plenty of trannies say a bunch of homophobic shit idc about yall anymore.
>>41180217conservatives are cave people who go "me no lie, we smash". They exist based solely off emotion and whatever their propaganda tells them to focus / hate on. They exist in a world with bright lights going off.They are "neutral" on the gay issue because their propaganda hate machine isn't focused on it AT THE MOMENT. Once they get that going again, and things look to be moving that way, get fucking ready.
>>41180222And yet during trump’s first term they weren’t focused on same sex marriage. I wonder what changed
>>41180222>>41180238Pic related. Gays are subhuman in their eyes.
>>41180256bro this is literally how people used to treat gays like you and then they figured out most fags are fine, i am fine with you regular gays I used to be one lol
>>41180266>And yet during trump’s first term they weren’t focused on same sex marriage. I wonder what changedA 2015 Supreme Court ruling that will be overturned soon by Trump's SCOTUS nominees.
>>41180217Yeah I’m just tired of troons holding a gun to my head and saying “you’ll go to camps too!”and not an actual reason, acting like I owe them something even though we have nothing in common
>>41180285it is kind of annoying how you just take pride in the fact that no one cares about just being gay anymore, like yay good for you but trannies have rights too.
>>41180271>bro this is literally how people used to treat gaysThe amount of zoom zooms on here is fucking crazy. I'm 33 years old, I remember very open homophobia growing up in high school. The word faggot was what the word trannie / tranny / troons is now.When same-sex marriage was legalized in CA in 2008 at the time, there was people saying it would lead to "same-sex couples being taught in our schools". So the anti-trans stuff causes me extreme concern for me personally because I know what it was like. I lived though that shit.
>>41180299i think its hopeful because seeing as the trump administration has openely gay cabinet members helping with their nazi takeover not 10 years after the supreme court decision, that bodes well for trannies
>>41180271Yeah but I don’t have anything in common with them unless they are same sex attracted and some of them were heterosexual before trooning out. I’ve seen enough homophobia here to not give a shit about them
>>41180040LGBT in general is the Pluto of society. Nobody knew we really existed or worse, only to be found, added to the club of acceptable status, and then we are now being pushed out of the club.I knew this shit was gonna happen when Tumblr and Twitter were rampantly canceling people for sometimes pure petty nonsense. I didn't think it would get to the point where the US was actively operating concentration camps but here we are. Don't expect to not be next if you're anything other than a good breeding heterosexual (white) man or woman. I just hope the world solves this problem because I'm pretty powerless in this situation. There's going to be alot of pointless suffering coming and I hope you all stay safe.
>>41180285Open a basic history text book you absolute fucking idiot. Divide and conquer the most back fucking tactic of the right wing thought history.
>>41180294The op wasn’t about trannies tho
>>41180308im a tranny, the people on here just suck. Most trannies are nice and try to pretend everything is normal, like anyone else.
>>41180318I’ve seen enough homophobia here towards cis gays from trannies to not care. We don’t owe you anything
>>41180307>i think its hopeful because seeing as the trump administration has openely gay cabinet members helping with their nazi takeover not 10 years after the supreme court decision, that bodes well for tranniesThose are compradors.>wow Trump appointed gays>wow Trump appointed blacks>wow Trump appointed women>wow Trump appointed a Muslim (Dr. Oz)All while their policies are cutting the social safety net (1 trillion from healthcare cut 10 years). If their policies overwhelming effect 90% of a population while a privileged 10% get to live in comfort, I won't call that a "win".
>>41180338That's not really fair because I don't categorize cis gays as a "movement", I know too many to know that yall are just completely normal. My friends don't seem to think what you do, so I don't think gays are a bunch of annoying "I got mine!" selfish idiots.Once everyone figures out trannies work the same way, life will be fine.
>>41180338>I’ve seen enough homophobia here towards cis gays from trannies to not care. We don’t owe you anythingYou are mentally ill. A trans person cannot be homophobic, they are queer by definition. And I'm not even trans. I'm trans ally.
>>41180361Just leave all the categorizing and bigotry for people who live overseas so this country can get back to kicking ass
>>41180040If they are, it was the troons that did it.
>>41180369“You are mentally ill. A trans person cannot be homophobic” This is blatantly wrong I’ve seen people here bringing up aids and all other types of things to shit talk gays that don’t agree with them.
>>41180403>This is blatantly wrong I’ve seen people here bringing up aids and all other types of things to shit talk gays that don’t agree with them.Show the screenshots. And for the love of God, THIS SITE IS NOT REALITY GO OUT AND TOUCH GRASS
>>41180361Yeah but there’s not an honest call for support it’s just “you’ll go to camps too” fear mongering
>>41180414Lol idk, people are dumb. Get off the 4chan and xitter, people on here are insane
>>41180410I don’t save them. You’re first reaction was to call me mentally ill but you don’t seem that stable yourself
>>41180429Yeah I get what you’re saying. I only know a couple irl but they were part of lgb before transitioning and are chill. It’s just frustrating with all of the recent shit and it feeling like the progress might be sliding backwards
>>41180435>I don’t save them.Cause you are lying and probably a RNC paid disinfo agent.>>41180414>Yeah but there’s not an honest call for support it’s just “you’ll go to camps too” fear mongeringWe have a Nazi lead government and you are telling me not to fear monger? Trans people are our front line soldiers. They go, we go next.
>>41180458lgbt historically united because everyone just hates us for no reason, that's how it is.
>>41180458>feeling like the progress might be sliding backwardsIt's going across the board, women, minorities, lgbt. Capitalism is in late stage. One of the biggest lies was capitalism brought those groups rights, in reality it was due to struggle from leftists over decades that go those rights and now after years of anti-communism and destruction of the left though COINTEL they are now pushing a complete reactionary roll back of society. Capitalism has to due this, if people start getting emancipated, eventually everyone will demand emancipation, including emancipation from capitalism itself.
>>41180479>lgbt historically united because everyone just hates us for no reason, that's how it is.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_people_in_Nazi_Germany#Nazi_views_on_transgender_people>Generally, Nazi ideology considered transgender, non-binary or other gender-non conforming identities as mental illnesses which could (and should) be cured.[64][7] One goal of the Nazi government was to restore and enforce traditional conservative gender roles within German society compared to the more open Weimar Germany, which meant suppressing transgender identities as well as gender non-conforming ones such as butch lesbians and effeminate gay men.[64] Within the legal system, transvestism or having a transgender identity was often considered an aggravating factor in a homosexuality case, causing transgender women to face even harsher sentences than if they had been considered homosexual men, though transgender people could face persecution even if Nazi authorities did not consider them to be homosexual.[18][65]>Though transgender women in Nazi Germany were treated as crossdressing men under the law and by law enforcement, and were often arrested tried under the same Paragraph 175 as homosexual men,[66][67] Laurie Marhoefer notes that "Nazi officials did not simply think trans women were gay men."[18] Bodie Ashton, a professor of German and LGBT history at the University of Erfurt, has called the Nazi government's understanding of transgender people "broadly inconsistent", and says that the Nazi government generally did not make attempts to understand transgender individuals beyond base assumptions about them.[65]
>>41180479Why unite with people who believe two men with penises can be lesbians and two women with vaginas can be gay men? Seems self defeating.
After Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization, the Republicans have really been showing you their true colors. Decline 2023-2025. Staggering levels of decline. Once Obergefell v. Hodges is overturned, the round up of gays is next.
>>41180523>Why unite with people who believe two men with penises can be lesbians and two women with vaginas can be gay men? Seems self defeating.Instead we should unite with Nazi Republicans who think the Bible says homosexuals should be stoned to death?
>>41180545Theres a federal law legalizing gay marriage if obergefell is overturned.
>>41180555>Theres a federal law legalizing gay marriage if obergefell is overturned.Read the Respect for Marriage Act idiot. It does not federally legalize it. It only allows recognition into states that won't legalize it after it is overturned. Same with interracial marriage.
>>41180554Why not reject both facets of social conservatism and just beeeee ourselves instead?Trannies want gays castrated, christians want us killed. Neither are our allies.
>>41180564seems pretty decent to me
>>41180465>and probably a RNC paid disinfo agent.” you’re being paranoid >Trans people are our front line soldiers. They go, we go next.No trans people are a small minority of lgbt and Cis gays/lesbians are not going anywhere. Things were fine until people like Caitlyn jenner and all the trans athletes wanting to compete against the opposite sex and bringing lgbt back into the political spotlight. Most of you will never police your own and treat it like a cult.
>>41180565>Why not reject both facets of social conservatism and just beeeee ourselves instead?Because you are alienating our foot soldiers who are fighting in the trenches for us. If your ally gets attacked, that means YOU get attacked.>Trannies want gays castratedWrong and you are stupid and dumb.>christians want us killed. Neither are our allies.Ok so we should sacrifice trans people and the Christians will what? Not kill us? This is how I know you are a bullshitter and probably a Republican disinfo shill.
Why do fag pretend trannies are coming after them?
>>41180572its not my fucking fault the liberal media decided to treat us as a freakshow (just tolerant!).Personally I am against degeneracy, and I would like our community to be shown with more dignity.Where is all the trooned out veteran and engineer representation?
>>41180595>Why do fag pretend trannies are coming after them?I think it's an RNC paid shill, probably on the payroll of them. Looks like this is the new disinfo campaign they are pushing.
>>41180603there was another guy who seemed to be a genuine human since he could be reasoned, but yeah I think this is being pushed artificially.Why are they here? What do they want from us?
>>41180572>No trans people are a small minority of lgbt and1-3% of the population idiot.>Cis gays/lesbians are not going anywhere.Wiemar Germany had a huge amount of cis gays/lesbians. How did that go?>Things were fine until people like Caitlyn jenner and all the trans athletes wanting to compete against the opposite sexThat is not even remotely what happened. Caitlyn jenner same out, there was nothing about trans athletes in 2015. It was about bathrooms they were fear mongering. Trans athletes came later. I know you a a bullshiter or a zoomer.>and bringing lgbt back into the political spotlight.LGBT never left the political spotlight. You were never accepted.>Most of you will never police your own and treat it like a cult.I am not trans.
>>41180618>Why are they here? What do they want from us?Pushing propaganda and the narrative. Keeping us divided thought endless amounts of psy ops and disinformation campaign being artificially boosted. These agent provocateur types are so easy to spot, they usually have the same NPC script, usually call you a trannie even if you are a cis bisexual guy like myself who is a trans ally and push false information out there.
This is what they think of Native Americans.
>>41180100 I'm trans. I've lived as a woman for 7 ish years. I feel like people are more permissive of me and my life is better than it has ever been. Just act normal and you're seen as one of the good ones.
>>41180647Believing that gay men can have vaginas keeps gays divided.
>>41180625They are a minority of lgbt and total population retard. It doesn’t matter when trans athletes came if you can’t argue in good faith you have nothing worthwhile to say and this isn’t germany.if you are not trans then what are you a chaser?
>>41180651I would like to clarify life is good for me but our government is fucking insane.
>>41180656>Believing that gay men can have vaginas keeps gays divided.You aren't fooling anyone in this thread >>41180651
>>41180654do you pass, stealthing and visibly honmoding (even if trying to be civil) are different
>>41180665https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wounded_Knee_Massacre"the Battle of Wounded Knee"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babi_Yar"the Battle of Babi Yar"
>>41180651Why not give injuns medals too?
>>41180565Exactly I dislike both groups not specific people but trans ideology is poison.
>>41180677>Why not give injuns medals too?US government is a white settler colonialist government. It is if Nazi Germany won World War II.
>>41180656And a lesbian couple can both have cocks. They change the meaning of language to try and erase us. Then expect unconditional support like we owe them somthing
>>41180676What do you mean by this?
>>41180565>Why not reject bothNo. Anti-trans is SOCIAL CONSERVATISM by DEFINITION
we almost came to an agreement and they had to break out the god damn injuns to keep the shit flinging going
>>41180693>What do you mean by this?He called it Battle of Wounded Knee, it was a massacre of Miniconjou and Hunkpapa Lakota. It's like calling the Babi Yar, the largest massacre of Jewish people outside Kyiv by the Nazis in 1941 as the Battle of Bai Yar. Our government is literally defending genocidal history.
>>41180699>injunsyour racism towards First Nations / Turtle Island peoples is overwhelming. That's why you call them by that term.
>>41180694I’m only pro trans if they are same sex attracted Where does put me
>>41180729you are socially conservative.
>>41180720Oh I see what you mean. Getting hung up on semantics is silly though. We were the belligerent and we killed innocent natives. That is what matters, not the name.
>>41180734Ok I will vote accordingly next mid term
>>41180671I don't know. I'm a normal person. I don't mention being trans and no one else does. Are you still early in transition or not trans at all?
>>41180737>not the name.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_massacreIs this a battle? Should we give them metals like Pete Hegseth said?
>>41180754If you're the opposing faction yes. History is about the winner. I don't agree with it; but, you're not contributing to anything or affecting anything by differentiating the nomenclature of battles.
>>41180762>>41180754People died. That's what's bad not the name.
>>41180762>If you're the opposing faction yes.> almost all women, children, and elderly men in South VietnamClearly the opposing faction right?
>>41180768Could you label the Holocaust a conflict or war?
>>41180793I'm not particularly familiar with this incident but it says the US was the belligerent. I know what you're saying but it's emotional. Which is ok but not how I like to approach things.>>41180799You could. If the Nazis won and were in power now, I'm sure it would be seen as a great victory over a threat to the nation. Do you think not?
>>41180793>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_massacrereading more about it i dont think theyd earn any medals but i think theres a reason its not widely known since we "won" the war lol
>>41180810>>41180825The point I'm getting at is if this is how they are treating Native Americans, what does that say about how they are gonna treat LGBT people? They are already expelling trans people from the military, which is always historically the first step before a genocide is committed when you expelled a group you are gonna genocide.
>>41180862Native Americans are alive though. They weren't completely genocided. Neither were Jews. I understand your concern though.
>>41180862Do you know Jessica the diaper transgender? She is actually native american.
>>41180871>Native Americans are alive though. They weren't completely genocided.>95% of them killed off>culture almost completely culturally genocided >rest live in utter poverty (tribes in south dakota have lower standards of living than Haiti)>alcoholism and disease rampant>highest number of people brutalized by police>has no independence or autonomy from us federal government.>Neither were Jews. The Jewish population has still yet to reach it's pre-1941 numbers. 15.7–16.2 million today, there was 17 million in 1941
>>41180896Ok? I don't see what your point is. Bad things happen. We will persevere. Are you just dooming? Go do something if it's that bad.
>>41180908Calling it Battle of Wounded Knee is Holocaust denial equivalent. We can't just ignore history. Acknowledging it helps us heal.
>>41180919It's words. Whatever we call it, if we acknowledge it's bad that's what matters. I agree it's bad. If you'd like to change the name, I'd support that. I don't think it's important though at all.
>>41180040Good. Leave me alone sis.
>>41180040Obviously true.Yeah, trans people have it much worse, but some posters think that means gays and lesbians are fine which is a very stupid opinion to hold.
>>41181946Then you're extremely ignorant.
>>41180162nice anecdote faggot.
>>41181924>trans people have it much worsewrong
>>41182400It's true tho. No one cares if you're gay anymore. The culture war shit is about trannies in sports and women's bathrooms
Yeah MI5 headquarters at the Waterhouse flies pride flags and we're marginalized.We are not marginalized.We are demonized by a socioeconomically underdeveloped and educationally underweight underclass (looking at you STEM) that has no way to feel better except to hate someone more vulnerable than them and prey on them.
>>41184461flying pride flags ≠ actual social acceptance if anything they are just taunting gays by saying "well, if you experience homophobia, keep it to yourself because officially we will deny it"
>>41184416multiple popular religions still practice shunning of gays
>>41180933bad means gay
people still bully me for being gay
>>41180040All of my faculty mentors are gay
>>41184461> We are not marginalized.you aren’t considered human by one political party in usa.
don’t fool yourself, calling yourself homosexual will get discriminated against by 30% of american.
>>41187283being a teacher is kinda a marginalized job cuz you are cloistered in an institutional setting
>>41180089lmao, thisthe genderfuck groomers are taking all the attention away from the "ooo lookit me, I'mmm soooooOOOooo gaaaaay" attention whores (especially women, whom people chuckle about since they're just misandrist bisexuals claiming homosexuality)
>>41187615people still don't believe effeminacy in males is innate, the sheer commonality of the belief that men acting feminine MUST be learned is itself proof of continued prevalence of societal homophobia
>>41187320imagine just trusting what surveys say
>>41188042imagine being a zoom zoom like you wasn’t old enough to remember 2008 prop 8
>>41188491so what?
>>41188881you don’t remember the rabid levels of homophobia i witnessed. and that will come back if right wing hate machine media starts focusing on us again.
>>41188894homophobia existed before after and around Prop 8>come backit never left
>>41180746im trying to figure out if i should go for it, i could look really cool in an alien way (I already do crossdressed) but i have a bit of a jawline and my shadow literally looks like superman so I don't think I would pass
>>41188901i didn’t say that it didn’t go away. im saying all they need to do is start painting gays as pedophiles again and polling support for homosexuality will collapse. MTG already trued this by claiming gays were having sex with money. shit straight out of AIDS.
>>41188909like when i put on female clothes i just end up looking like a gay hero or something instead of some kind of female
>>41188931they never stopped painting gays as pedophilesI frankly think the main reason gay marriage became legal was economic, marriage makes money, people in marriages make more money, america's addiction to capitalism is the only thing strong enough to overwhelm its biases
>>41188947*gay superhero
