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i started learning rust and i really enjoy it
i told myself i was going to learn a language for backend after being a swift dev all these years and i tried golang but it seems it was made for retards, but i tried rust and really liked the ergonomics

is it over for me? i seem to have all the stereotypes of becoming tran thanks to my autism
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>>41189903
this post is too autistic for me too understand
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>>41189952

it’s a language that has a high tranner programmer concentration for whatever reason

idk, i feel like garbage collection is slop after so many years programming in swift
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>>41189903
This is why I use C as a cis man. Enjoy your shitty language
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what do you even do with rust?
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>>41190043

i am right now writing a bot to crawl app store reviews so can get updates for an app
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I wish I was a smart agp like you all instead of a dumb agp
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>>41190078
smart agps develop intelligence reduction kink
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>>41190078
They aren’t smart anon
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Unrelated but how the fuck do I learn programming if I don't have the autistic brain for it. I don't enjoy it, it's frustrating but I'd really like a nice paying coding job. The fuck do I do
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>>41192370
Don’t be aye
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>>41192370
there are other careers besides programming if you really can't enjoy programming, otherwise idk try doing something practical and learn to appreciate the theoretical nature of computers
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>>41192400
like have you ever found math or logic interesting? If you can't enjoy those things on some level I don't think its possible to like programming the way these autists ever do.
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>>41192412
>mfw im ashamed of being a smart autist because of trannies
I’m sorry trannies as a cis guy
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>>41192224
well I can’t do programming stuff
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>>41192451
There not smart anon they are autistic freaks and I’m totally not a self hating autistic dude
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>>41192443
i like my cis nerd friends, i think im gonna marry one of them
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>>41192457
Wgmi
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>>41192370

don’t do programming if you don’t enjoy it
its a pain in the ass dealing with other devs who are not autistic about it and just want a paycheck
they do absolutely terrible code because they don't care about their code
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>>41192955

every line of code is a liability
if you write like shit, it’ll come back as a bug that you probably won’t be there to maintain and some autist will have to fix
don’t make the autist job harder thanks
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>>41189903
That's fine, but please keep Rust out of fucking NetBSD and encourage your fellow trans women to do the same
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>>41192982

i think its a mistake to try to replace stable tools with rust code (because rust itself isn’t stable), but it definetely should be considered as a choice for new tools because it’s easier to get something to be production quality stable in rust than in c (cause the language helps you)
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>>41192990
I agree that one should work with the most appropriate tool for the job, and that Rust is a great tool for spinning up new codebases and putting them into production quickly, but NetBSD is intended to be small, lightweight, and minimal. The dependency overhead of Rust, I fear, makes it an inappropriate tool for a project such as NetBSD.
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>>41193007

well rust is a compiled language, so it’s not a dependency in the project, it’s a dependency in the build process
you won’t have to download rust to run, it doesn’t have a separate runtime like java/dotnet/python/ruby/etc
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>>41193025
If you're using NetBSD in production, you're guaranteed to be compiling for a single target. Rust clogs the development pipeline.
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>>41189903
>Name's swiftie
>Doesn't program in Swift
Missed opportunity
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>>41193111

i actually have 8+ years experience in Swift
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>>41193121
I'm fucking retarded, it was in the OP.

What are you using to learn it btw?
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>>41189903
>>>/g/
Rust is low level, no one would code backend services in rust. If you are half decent as a swift dev, either keep your frontend focus, learn Kotlin and a JS-based FE technology; or if you want to learn BE, the cool kids are using node, python (AI/ML community, step from here to R and become a dragon maid) or .net (it's now cross platform). Pair it with an ops skill (k8s), and you're golden, welcome to utwg!

If it's a hobby, keep it that way. You'll have fun unlike getting paid for it.
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>>41189903
>frontend developer larping as an actual programmer
cringe, you do not fit the stereotype
come back when you have >5 PRs on popular FOSS
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>>41193176

swift is way more like a low level language than a high level language… clearly reeks of skill issue lmao

swift does not have gc, in case you don’t know
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>>41193266

well, i kinda do anon
contributed to some stuff in swift land opensource
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bump
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>>41190043
Nothing. There's no big project in Rust. Only toys.
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>>41189903
How can a code language have ergonomics, what the fuck are you even talking about
Does it have like a rubberized knurled grip, is there tennis tape

Backend? Swift?? Golang??? I think you were lost way before this whatever it is, anon
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>>41193300
Swift is based on gc though?
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>>41196732
Some people will claim that reference counting isn't GC
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>>41192400
I'm awful at practical stuff. People keep saying go into trades but I can't even name half the tools. And I don't find it interesting. I'd love to do something with computers but it seems I'm too dumb for it
>I thought I'd be a game dev but I hate maths lmao (only wanted to be game dev because I play games, like a dumbass)

>>41192412
Math not really? Maybe some easier parts of algebra but that's it. At this point I've already forgotten stuff. Logic idk how I can tell, does enjoying puzzle games count lmao
>>41192955

But I want the big monies
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>>41196732

it doesn’t have a runtime that stops execution to collect memory, like rust, memory is dropped at the end of the scope, unless you have a shared reference to it (it uses smart pointers but it automates some things for you)

>>41197425

It isn’t? You have to take care of memory still.
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>>41189903
How do you deal with Rust's syntax? It looks ugly.
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>>41198642

it’s not as bad as c++
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>>41198545
>It isn’t? You have to take care of memory still.
For the most part you don't have to. It's only cycles that are a problem.
GC does not mean tracing.
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>>41198878

cycles yes
and memory pressure so you have to manage less allocations
and when you have to deal with raw buffers if you are doing anything that interacts with file system/sockets
and multi threading as well

if you are going to say that you don’t have to manage memory because you “only” have to take care of cycles, then c++ with smart pointers also is GC’d, rust is GC’d, etc, because its the same level of difficulty
rust has the magic drop trait that is always called at the end of the scope as well to destroy smart pointers

yes its not raw pointers like C, but its not like you can completely abstract away knowing if the memory is on the stack or the heap, etc



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