He equates us with religious zealots
Trannies are finding out 99% of people see them as men but either don't say anything or call them women just to be polite
>>41194499biologist commenting on anthropology they don't understand per usual. this is just boring academia drama
>>41194568Anyone surprised by this just hasn't been paying attention The cozying up of the reddit atheists with far right has been playing out for years Dawkins has no qualifications to comment on any of this, and he knows he's a pseudo intellectual at best, so he fits in with Nazis perfectly I'd bet $10 he converts to Christianity by 2028
Sometimes, sometimes not. In some circumstances cis women are men. I hate both slogans.
>>41194499This makes the South Park episode where he fucked tranny Garrison funnier.
>>41194499He's not wrong i dont know why trannies seem to think everyone else is somehow obligated to indulge their mental illness/fetish.
>>41194499Crazy saying something everyone knew in 2008 makes you a Nazi in 2025
>>41194499The same Richard Dawkins who's lost all his credibility as time has went on 'cause he keeps saying weird shit? I love how the greats just get TDS and just lose their life
>>41194676I remember during the normandy landings the shouts of “women have penises too!” from the brave allied troops.
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>>41194712Self own
>>41194698Everyone right of Pol Pot is Hitler these days. The very idea that purple haired jobless porn addicts could be criticized at all is a core tenant of fascism.
>>41194698yeah wow excellent point, unlike how in real life they were shouting "for the jews!"
>>41194499>don't know who that is>look him up>Richard Dawkins is a British evolutionary biologist, zoologist, science communicator and author>84>not cute or sexyUhhhhh.... So.... Why do we care?
>jk rowling made a new post, how do we respond?>richard dawkins doesnt like us, is it over?>brianna wu called us out, how cooked are we?who the fuck cares?
>>41194736That third point is a pretty good reason.
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>>41194763Ironic
>>41194766I'm sure religious zealots think much more highly of you.
>>41194568Is he wrong though? You guys don’t think youre *actually* women, right?
>>41194789Some actually believe this is “settled science” and the only criticism stems from a great depression era central european political movement
>>41194558we know.what we don't get is why you equate it to a religion and feel entitled to persecuting them over it.people are so retarded that they politicized a health condition and turned into a religion because people see the delusion of trannies as the same as people that delusionally believe in god. christians see it as a new crusade that's they're legally allowed to engage in as they feel shielded from medical reality by their delusional belief in god.an unstoppable force meeting an unmovable object.
>>41194762>still don't get it>look up zoologist>look up "science communicator">look up evolutionary biologistI still don't get it honestly
>>41194814Atheist here. My hate for you has nothing to do with jebus
>>41194817Skill issue.
>>41194828Someone explain please I don't get how this all connects
Some peoples gender changes thousands of times a second, this is called kilohertzgendered, some millions, being called megahertzgendered. The truth is, gender is a spectrum and as questioning of this doctrine that appeared out of no where a decade ago is tantamount to putting jews in gas chambers. You cant question us. The paradox of tolerance says you have to agree with us or we get to kill you for being intolerant. Experts all agree. Now sign the paperwork for the sex change the teacher discussed with your child or you will lose your job and your house. Whats it going to be, Nazi?
>>41194820define the crux of your argument
>>41194499He became a christcuck again so he should shut the fuck up methinksAlso hes been yapping about it since 2021
>>41194775>N-no you
>>41194814Too bad it was never sold as “hey im a man with a medical condition that means im happier pretending to be a woman, so be polite and play along”, but instead “science is heckin awesome, even though i have a cock i am actually, down to the very atom a woman because gender is just a social construct and has no meaning but its important you still understand the original meaning and just apply the opposite meaning to me and id you don’t youre a far right extremist. Also even though this is a social construct theres a lot of biology and science behind why me taking estrogen makes my cells convert to the different social construct! Cells have a concept of social constructs wow how amazing. Again dont ask any questions or you are in fact a nazi. We will be teaching this to your children in leu of math since they cant read despite record high per pupil spending!”And of course, despite the warning people still had some questions and were summarily became card carrying members of the nazi party
>>41194881>xe gave up posting images because he realized xe was embarrassing himself like that time xe told xis mom xe was trans and she started to sob
>>41194843if he's an evolutionary biologist then he should understand and account for difference of sexual expression as a result of mutations occurring naturally. meaning: are trannies men or women is a trick question. an evolutionary biologist would look at it like: something must've went wonky to cause this. we don't know what is the root cause exactly and because they can't point to tylenol they try to act like it's all made up gospel from a new religion.cis discrimination.cis bias.cis transphobia.they can't wrap their head around why so they postulate that it doesn't exist. intersexism does happen. birth defects do happen. the problem revolves around certifying authenticity. the current problem is that the majority of individuals in the community that identify as trans is alarming. it says that many of them are acting in bad faith as they want to have the condition by proxy. they misunderstood when other cis people tried to cis explain it them so you got this watered down bastardized interpretation of the condition. like the children's game if telephone. some people chose to be trans to deliberately be contrarion or counter main stream culture, not because they identify as the opposite sex.so basically. dawkins spent all that time and money to get pieces of paper to give credence to his bigotry. doesn't make it any less ignorant.
>>41194881I accept your defeat
>>41194933Did you…. reply to yourself?
>>41194931I think he considers them men anon.
>>41194950No, I was accepting your resignation from the debateDumb N
>>41194499Putting trans people under the microscope and endlessly commenting on them ought to be classified as some sort of hard drug or something, holy fuck. Last I heard from Dawkins he wisely said he was done with the topic and just wanted to focus on something else. He literally can't fucking help himself. No one can. The public just cannot bring themselves to leave these people be, god damn.
>>41194975Your act like youre under a microscope when in reality you’re on a parade float
>>41194986Raj, what time is it over there?
>>41194950ywnbaw
>>41194885you're upset because tumblr tier takes became mainstream as none of the opposition could sufficiently dismantle their arguments without coming across as either ignorant or bigotted.people used to be ok with and tolerate trannies when the threshold was srs. all of this pushback could be resolved if you put that guard rail back up, but people don't want to. 80% classical desistence is because 80% did not seek srs.notice the stereotype is a trans woman with a penis? that's your immediate counterclaim. trans women get srs. no srs, no transition.transvestites aren't transsexuals.transsexuals belong in lgbt because autogynephillia is a sexuality akin to homosexualism. it's an immutable characteristic of their identity. the medical condition reflects the distress associated with rejection from the herd. that's why the conmunity attracted so many societal outcasts rather than good faith trannies. some smarmy people tried to use inclusion to garner numbers and support to invoke societal change. the result was the watering down and bastardization of the condition as the gates were torn down in the name of inclusion.if everybody is cool, no one cool.if everyone can just be trans, then none of you are trans. there has to be definitive diagnostic criteria. the problem is laymen don't understand the difference between a transvestite and a transsexual and transvestites are being misconflated as transsexuals.
>>41194952did you read or are you just retarded because you missed the whole point.
>>41195014>or bigoted“We will call you a nazi if you disagree and if youre a nazi i win” is a hell of a way to try and convince the masses. This must be why the average person sees you as a real woman. JK, not even your discord friends and other trannies see you as a woman. You dont even see yourself as a woman
>>41194975It's like being able to be homophobic towards a group the size of Jews in 1920s Germany without any real social cost. Thankfully I'm not cursed enough to be an Amerimutt so I'm kind of like one of those Jews that got to move to the US before nativism took hold of the population and Jews fleeing Europe were left to drown/sent back to be killed.
>>41194986it's not a parade float.
>>41194931I understand now, thank you anon
>>41194725I feel like you people are the type to never touch a woman, go outside or even have a job, cause who tf would want to work with this retard thinking
>>41195044>n-no you!
>>41195025again. that's tumblrina's acting retarded. words don't have meaning to those acting in bad faith.nazi is a very specific term. to describe you as nazi's is a disservice to the magnitude of the autrocity they caused. most of you are not nazi's. you're too weak and pathetic to ever enact the same levels of terror.the majority of you are cattle. swine pre-programmed by propoganda whereby which side you take speaks more to the type of person you are rather than the objective truths of reality.don't project you feelings onto me. don't tell me i don't see myself as a woman when you don't even know me. you're acting irrationally as a result of your delusion.
>>41194499>He equates us with religious zealotsHe should love us then, given that he decided he’s “culturally Christian”.
>>41195068Well thanks to tumblrinas everyone hates you and youve lost your shot at ever being accepted. Should have kept them in line. Sorry dude, no one will ever play the men can be women game again
>>41195069You’re culturally Christian. The entire idea that the meek shouldn’t be dashed against rocks is culturally Christian. When the antisis to christian culture formed in nazi germany you now use that label to flag all of your enemies. Survival of the fittest is diametrically opposed to christs teachings Don’t be so quick to wish for a world without Christian humanism. If it comes, you will have no one to defend you
>>41195072good. i never asked anyone else to carry my cross. let me take it to my grave and rest in peace.i hope no one else ever has to endure my persecution.i'll be your pariah.
>>41195081jesus loved and forgave the unrepentant.
>>41194725What makes you a nazi is your morally reprobate and mentally weak belief that because a purple-haired jobless porn addict I've never met happens to share a single characteristic with me, the 'group' that both of us could be tied to should be stripped of all rights to a dignified life and cast out of society. Only mentally weak people think this way.
>>41195082Ive long thought the absolute worst thing you could do to a leftist is give them what they want, so can no longer cry victim. And when they realize they still hate everything about themselves theyll have no one else to blame. Sadly this idiilic world underestimates the leftists ability to find new ways to be victims. Microaggressions and colonial bookshelves. Theres no bottom
>>41195088No he didn’t. Try reading the Bible. He forgave those ignorant of their sins, but that’s completely different than unrepentant
>>41194901I am not even the anon you're talking about
>>41195106Wow, when did the righttards allow us to abolish class society and begin the transition to communism? I must have missed that.
>>41195099they're not german so they can't be nazi's.they're loyal to the third reich, they're not nazi's.your argument holds no value because it's made in bad faith. it cones across as childish namecalling. you may as well as call them pp heads. same effect.worss have meaning. when wielded in bad faith they lose their power.
>>41195121What job would you have in the communist utopia
>>41195114being ignorant of your sins is the same as being unrepentant.being ignorant of your sins means you fail to acknowledge them as sins so you will not seek repentance for said sins. to forgive the ignorant would by extension mean to forgive those that know not what they've done. if you didn't know you've sinned, would you seek repentance? no. because you don't think you've sinned. that would make you unrepentant.the idea that some one like luke postulated was that you don't have to forgive those that deliberately act in bad faith. luke's gospel isn't jesus's word. only his interpretation.
>>41195134There's nothing bad faith about it. Psychically they are nazis, spiritually they are nazis, politically they are just the localized variant of nazism. Fascism is not an internationalist ideology with a unified theory of universal human liberation the way communism is, it's an ad-hoc mishmash that every authentic fascist movement (MAGA is a great example) discovers through improvisation. Thus for MAGA the transsexual is the Jew, a shadowy stand-in for all their anxieties about the destabilizing tendencies of late-modernity. For now though, because they do not believe that transsexuality is a biological phenomenon, they have confined themselves to attempting a trans epistemicide, and writing us out of the legal code. When that fails and we continue to exist, they may turn to other solutions.
>>41195192lolI can see how youd get to thinking men can be women
>>41195226>>Thus for MAGA the transsexual is the Jew, a shadowy stand-in for all their anxieties about the destabilizing tendencies of late-modernity.then they're not fucking nazi's you asshat.they're maga's.they're equally as authoritarian. sure. but they're not nazi's. they're maga.you call them nazi to try to disparage them. that's why it comes across as childish.call them fascistscall them authoritarianscall them cheaterscall them liarscall them the guardians of pedophilesbut nazi's. they're not nazi's. they love israel.
>>41194499Oh look a scientist who understands nothing about life, shocking
>>41195263>Forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against uswhat part of the lords prayers says they need seek forgiveness to be forgive?
>>41195081Stfu kek stop glazing that worthless garbage
>>41194499i was a woke christian before this and i remain a woke christian after thisyes i have a soul yes God made me in his image and yes he gave me gender dysphoria that i coped with through methods that i can access by his gracei do not care what people from the atheist movement think
>>41195294Imagine loving a being who gave you dysphoria while his worshippers work tirelessly to make your life hell
>>41195304see this is why i worship satan
>>41195269>nazi = antisemiticYou don't get it. Nazism was an ideology, sure, but none of its specific positions on who was good or bad matter. Anyone can be Nazi. The MAGA stuff is pretty Nazi, just with different bugaboos about what the 'unclean' elements of society are that need purging.
>>41195135Probably factory work, possibly farming, perhaps even my current job if people trained and qualified in it were in short supply. I'm not some cringe millenial who's gonna say artsy fartsy shit, I'm a zoomzoom commie.
>>41195304why is there suffering in this world? because humans before us have and humans after us will bring it into this world by turning away from God and worshipping sex, money or drugs instead.do i like gender dysphoria? no. do i accept that i have it? yes. every one of us has their own cross to bear. mine is not even particularly big, others have it way worse.my church has given me community and love i could never have imagined in trans circles. true love that doesn't revolve around sex or music leaving the people participating undiscovered but love for me as a person.
>>41195269Theyre not nazis but still idc if they call them that. Whatever dehumanize them works for me
>>41195279The Bible is explicit on the concept of repentance
>>41195342>why is there suffering in this world? because humans before us have and humans after us will bring it into this worldas a satanist, i'd say it's because the world is not yet complete, it is imperfect and flawed. that's why it has suffering and why we feel the impulse to end that suffering, to perfect the world
>>41195367the world was complete and we broke it and continue to break it every day. i as a christian and you as a satanist and everyone here as an atheist. we all turn away from perfection every day. and yet God loves us. we don't deserve it
>>41195342"Why is there suffering?" is not the same question as "why God personally gave me dysphoria?"But hey whatever floats your boat as long as you understand your church is an exception not the rule. Its the #1 threat for us as far as cultural institution go
>>41195378god is dead/dying. the universe is it's death. that's why it and everything in it is fated to death
>>41195383it is the same question. humans broke the world and continue to break it every day. sin begets suffering.
>>41195392well, as a christian, you already know what i think about God supposedly being dead. i await his return
>>41195396No. One addresses the messy, choatic nature of life, free will and humans while the other is about God personally deciding to hurt you.
>>41194499Dawkins has been flirting with Christianity for years now, is it really any surprise that he's started pandering to the moralist right to make his pastor happy?
>>41194499It's kinda funny that you could be famous 10 years ago and that means you can simply make a pointless statement at least half of people already agree with with and this causes a major publication to write an article about you.
>>41195408yeah, christians have made it practically impossible to not know what they think about pretty much everythingi was trying to explain what i think about things, but i guess i should have foreseen that you're not interested in understanding
>>41195435it's because they don't practice what they preach.many christians will use religion as a shield from consequence for their bigotry. doesn't mean they're faithful. doesn't mean they're repentant. doesn't mean they're good people.
>>41195425suffering is part of being a human ever since the fall. that's what i'm trying to say, if you wanted to listen
>>41194499Yeah yeah let em talk in 15 years they will be dead and their bigotry with them (the non dead ones will have to shut up more than ever and will cry more than ever at lacrosse team nazi camp fire bitch session)
>>41195449wow yeah, i would never have known without you telling me
>>41195435i understand what you were saying, but i don't know how to respond to something like "God is dead" except by saying that i disagree with it. i didn't attack you in any way
>>41195449i won't deny that many do this, but i don't think you know me well enough to make such a harsh judgment of me specifically in this context
>>41195474well i mean you could ask what i mean, or draw some conclusion from my statement that you feel contradicts something else already established as truelike how that anon asked you how you can love a god that made your life unpleasant. they felt there was a disconnect between your beliefs and wanted to examine it more closely
>>41195607i'm not here to debate-bro you. there is no chance that i will change your religious views on this website. i have no ambition to poke holes into your logic, i'm just here because i said i'm a christian and people then responded to me. if you want a serious discussion about christianity with someone who affirms lgbt people, hit up your local methodist/anglican/lutheran pastor
>>41194499Dawkins is the most reddit redditor to ever exist so Im not suprised.
>>41195632asking about apparent conflicts in a person's worldview isn't debate anon, it's just a normal part of communication
>>41195646i answered questions i was asked about my religious worldview. why do i need to ask others questions about theirs, though?
>>41195658because i am trying to talk to you about mine, you can also say like "i'm not interested in your worldview" that's normal too
>>41195689i mostly experience satanism as contrarianism and also your way of responding to me has made me think youre mainly here to draw me into a discussion that i don't have the energy to do rn
>>41195756i know satanism is mostly contrarianism, it's why i feel the need to justify and explain mine. since it's not simple contrarianismit's fine to not have the energy for a discussion, or simply not be interested in it. you can just say that
>>41195808i think i said that already
>>41194499>>41194558>>41194789https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZymYiwoRoC0https://juliaserano.medium.com/transgender-people-and-biological-sex-myths-c2a9bcdb4f4a
>>41195812yeah, i'm just affirming that it's a reasonable thing to say and it could have been your response from the starti'm trying to impress on you that you were kind of an asshole here
>>41194568Human culture is not relevant for the question of biological sex.
>>41195081>You’re culturally Christian.no, i'm actually christian, which means i'm culturally opposed to most things calling themselves christiandawkins is "culturally christian", which means he's attached to meaningless correlates of christianity which have now been coopted by various antichrists
>>41194867not atheist here, but agnostici hate how you use society to confirm your status, when the rest of us dontthis might come as a shock to you but id say almost all people have experienced some level of ridicule to their identity before they become an adultit can be as signifcant as friends claiming you're not man enough, so do xyz (men)or as insignificant as you need to wear a certain style of clothing and have a certain hobby that you dont care for to maintain a circle of friends (women)or as simple as someone downplaying your hobby because it seems stupid, for example my grandfather liked collecting rocks and collecting coins from all countries of the world (mixed)but in your case, you deny the aformation and walk your own paththats actually fine you know, nobody HAS to agree with your paththe problem starts when you make it everyones problem to accept your pathsociety has a hard enough time trying to give a shit about normal peopleand so your plight becomes a laughable existencelike some child that never grew up and experienced the world proper, too shelteredtldr nobody would give a fuck if you just mind your own business about shit that should be only your own business
Dawkins telling it like it is, always
>>41196299Do you feel the same about pandering to racial minorities, gays, women, ect. in media?
>>41196608naturally, but my main point is to express that these thoughts are certainly not limited to those groupsyou stick out like nail that isnt hammered in all the way, and the result ends up being unfavorable no matter who you are
basically, if the problem cant be tackled on a humanitarian level, where all people can agreethen you shouldnt expect any real change or acceptance of any kindnobody likes favorites
>>41194676>I'd bet $10 he converts to Christianity by 2028i would take the opposite side of this, because he's already "converted" in a way that's sufficient for his new alliesthe "religious" social conservative right is capable of ignoring the differences between catholics and protestants, it's absolutely capable of accepting a "culturally christian" atheist because none of this is actually about god for any of these people.
>>41194676It never ceases to amaze me how much "hating trannies" is a fundamental worldview nowHardline atheists and outspoken feminists coasying up to the far right who is directly opposed to them just because the far right allows them to be mean to trans women
>>41196043The way race is used socially has very little to do with science and yet people don't change their ideas on that based on science either.
>>41197502I guess that once people get to thinking about sex and gender and the concept of changing or blurring them, they start to realize that they all like breeding, and sex segregation and differentiation system set up to facilitate breeding, and they realize that they were all similar all along, I mean, atheist or feminist doesn't mean anything tangible, it's just little invented drama for people to play with while they live out their on-rails lives, they're still all breeders in the end and really have no differences
