Short of rounding them all up, there is no "defeating transgenderism." You can make their lives inconvenient, but so long as they're still around doing HRT and shit they are the long-term winners of this "fight."

>>41195128
The number of Jews in the world still hasn't recovered from its pre-WWII level. How do you think any genocide has ever started? Camps and mass graves are like one of the final steps. But just putting anyone identifying as trans into an insane asylum is already enough for most of the right; they only want to criminalize "public displays of porn", not necessarily kill every single trans person. If publically speaking, there are no visible trans people and trans-acceptance is as taboo as being an open Nazi, they'd have already won (no need for a messy genocide).

>>41195115
She is malebrained desu, typical high iq gayden

>>41195167
Retarded false equivalence, trannies aren’t an ethnic group

>>41195128
So you agree that there is not and cannot be any "trans genocide"? Regulating against bathroom access and sportshons and so on is fine and not TWAW NO DEBATE STOP KILLING US!!! ?

>>41195175
Because gays weren't put into camps by the Nazis and didn't have to wear symbols identifying them as homosexuals? Exactly because trans people aren't a foreign ethnic group they don't need to be killed. As long as there are no trans people visible and as long as the average person feels compelled to speak negatively of anything associated with them, the CN have basically won. They see it as a social contagion that only needs to be kept at bay; not seeing any lgbt people is the same as them basically not existing as they think it's all bullshit and only the act is what matters.
I grew up around a bunch of conservatives and know how they think. When they hear some kid they liked turns out ot be gay, trans, etc. their main question is "how could that be" and that "they were such a nice/normal kid" and asking "who put that into their head/made them do this". It's like if a straight-A student suddenly decided to drop out of high school and become a DJ while selling drugs on the side.

>>41195184
I still think "rounding them all up" is a plausible course of action paved through all the legislative measures to make trans people's lives more inconvenient and their status in society more solidified as "Other." But (and this is super slam-poetry shit I'm so sorry) if there's even one that flies under the radar and continues to transition they got the W and conservatism got the L. That's because conservatives have settled on a maximalist position and the maximalist anti-trans position is only fully realized/satisfied if you reach a society that is as though trans people never existed and don't exist. If even one does, and especially if they advocate for themselves, then they still haven't accomplished what they want to. It's a loss.
> regulating against bathroom access and sportshons and so on is fine
I don't think making people's lives more inconvenient purely because they're trans is fine. I don't know how your reading comprehension skills got you that far off the mark. Almost impressive.

>>41195115
Meanwhile in my life no one cares except one person who hates her now

>>41195235
>If even one does, and especially if they advocate for themselves, then they still haven't accomplished what they want to. It's a loss.
Conservatives think of trans people the way normal people think of crazy people that believe every powerful person is actually a lizard from another dimension. They don't need for not a single person to believe it; they just want to make that "position" something worthy of being ostracized from polite society. If anything, having a few people still "believe" in it is pretty useful as they can use these examples to garner support as people will stop giving a fuck if there actually was not a single example of them to point towards.

>>41195272
Conservatives do not want for people to be transgender at all. The whole point of all the laws and ostracizing from polite society as you put it is about pressuring them to detransition. Anybody that persists in spite of that is in defiance and the only way for conservatives to succeed in their political goals with them is a full-scale rounding up. You're simultaneously misunderstanding the main goal of conservatives (remove all traces of trans from society) and the priorities of transgender people, who while it is very inconveniencing to be pushed on the margins forcibly and ostracized, ultimately consider the ability to transition to be more important than whatever the powers that be do in response to that.

>>41195128
you can violently force them off of hrt

>>41195371
At what point in history have there been literally no trans people? Do you think the average Republican would mind living in terms of 1920s Germany of trans acceptance because there were trans people back then? Obviously if you asked them how many they'd WANT to exist the answer is none, but that's obviously impossible.
It's also obviously the goal of trans people to still transition in spite of that and I'm obviously not saying it'd be a "loss" if they continued doing so regardless of what the sentiment of those in power currently was.

>>41195407
and the trans people that DIY the stuff in secret will still win. What's after that? Forcible blood tests, deploying the FBI to investigate anyone with a shred of gender nonconformity and forcing them to take the test? At the end of the day some trans will slip past the cracks and they won, the government lost.

>>41195228
Gays were put into camps by the nazis and did have to wear symbols identifying them as homosexuals.

>>41195434
>At the end of the day some trans will slip past the cracks and they won, the government lost
If that was your standard for winning then loss becomes basically impossible and Jews were winning massively in the second world war as they only lost half of their population and got their own country because of how hard they were winning.

>>41195432
> Do you think the average Republican would mind living in terms of 1920s Germany of trans acceptance because there were trans people back then?
To the extent that they're inflamed now? I think any notion that there is still a "trans community" helping each other to transition and advocating for themselves, however underground that advocacy had become, they would absolutely. They want nothing short of it all going away. Any trans happiness represents to them that they haven't done enough, meaning any trans person still getting to be trans under this society and government is a victory, however small, against them. That's literally all I'm saying and I don't understand how it could even be controversial or kick up an argument to this degree.

>>41195407
Gincel, you keep posting this and you still haven't done it, because you're a pathetic loser whose autistic superpower is posting every day on an imageboard.

>>41195477
I mean.. yeah, they did win. Not without catastrophic losses, but evidently the concept of any Jewish person fleeing Nazi Germany to safety certainly enraged the nazis as was undeniably treated as a major loss and failure by them.

>>41195447
That was obviously meant sarcastically. The point is they went through the same things Jews did, despite not being a seperate ethnic group. Nazis can racialize/otherize pretty much anything that sets one part of the population apart from another. If we were living in tribal times with two completely identical groups that only differed in the way they greeted each other they'd still view each other as basically completely different races if there didn't exist another group to contrast themselves with.

>>41195477
These aren't comparable. Jewish people theoretically could've been exterminated, trans people cannot since being trans is an in-born, cross-cultural, cross-historical phenomenon. Hormones are made from extremely common food staples and plants.

>>41195479
Yeah, I imagine the way some peoples brains have been broken by too much social media slop will lead to some people being this assmad at ANY mention of anything related to trans people for years, if not decades (look at how people under Orban still continue being crazy over the non-existent threat of migrants coming to their country and teachers making their kids gay/trans).
>>41195517
I don't disagree that this is a sort of win; just one that no one would choose if they could get something better (which makes it almost more of a cope). I'm almost certain, with the exception of rabid Zionists that were willing to accept the death of millions of Jews, most, German Jews at least, would've preferred just assimilating, rather than having to leave their home.
>>41195537
With how much science is progressing we're at some future point going to get to the point where we could tell if someone was likely going to be gay/trans before being born and then, with another (future) wave of fascism/eugenics we could do that over the course of a couple of generations.

>>41195609
I dunno man you just gotta be sort of artsy-fartsy minded to "get it," I guess. The victory is small in material substance but absurdly meaningful. Of course no one would choose it as their only victory over a hostile enemy, but the idea that there's something they can't take away from you no matter how hard they try and how hard they want it is empowering. Anyway, poetry slam's over. If you get it you get it, if you don't you never will. Pretty sure we've hit bedrock.

>>41195115
she also get emma watson raped by harvey weinstein.

>>41195651
based
women deserve rape

>>41195235
>conservatives have settled on a maximalist position and the maximalist anti-trans position is only fully realized/satisfied if you reach a society that is as though trans people never existed and don't exist. If even one does, and especially if they advocate for themselves, then they still haven't accomplished what they want to.
Nah, you're wrong about this. Like Anon says, the maximalist con position (which far from all of them hold, also) is just a societal acceptance of the idea that trannies are delusional and have them all institutionalized. No real non-strawman right winger believes you can prevent mental illness from cropping up in the population, they just believe it should be controlled, not indulged, and spread should obviously be limited to whatever extent is actually possible.

>>41195680
trans people don't exist and never have
it's just people who crossdress insisting doing so makes them the opposite sex, falsely, over and over and over again

>>41195680
> have them all institutionalized
You agree with me actually. Sorry your reading comprehension is so bad, idk how you could go through life with it being this severe.

>>41195115
She's right.

>>41195115
It wasn't her that defeated transgenderism, but rather the reaction from the trannies and the left. That's what the left don't understand: it's them that's "radicalising" people to the right, with how they react to things. Also, all IPs went "woke" (the central theme being progressiveness, but in a very unappealing way) and turned to shit, so that annoyed non-progressives (which includes persons from the left-wing, right-wing, and centre.)

>>41195371
>if even a single person persists in defiance that's an ultimate win for trannies over Amalgamated Chud
NAYRT but yeah you said it best yourself, this is an extremely slam poetry take. Maybe in like, Rent this is a symbolic life-affirming victory but in real life that kind of outcome would be a massive L.

>>41195407
>The 5ft 4 manlet demanding violence cause he's nothing to any woman

A tale as old as time i guess

>>41195722
I'm not a huge "blame the liberals for everything" type, but on this in particular it's an issue where the mainstream dem party in America (and foreign equivalents) were just unwilling to put up even a basic defense of transgender people. The ground got conceded fully to mainstream conservatives and far leftists. Between the two, the people prefer mainstream conservatives so you end up with society leaning more against. Ironically the only prominent moderate/mainstream figure to be unashamedly pro-trans was Joe Biden, but the broader party in the U.S. at best treated having a pro-trans stance as an embarrassing secret to be swept under the rug. If the mainstream liberal section of politics was willing to have some party line, ANY party line (even as simple as "trans adults should be able to be trans and not be discriminated), some type of position, it could have drowned out the far left and stood as some sort of counter to the conservative insanity.

>>41195775
>the Democratic Party at best treated having a pro-trans stance as an embarrassing secret to be swept under the rug
So you're from a different timeline, huh? That's cool, that's cool! What can we do to help you acclimatize to this one? Some crazy shit going on here, ngl.

>>41195799
Your Pixar movies and woke video games are not "the Democratic Party," anon...

>>41195828
I'm not that Anon, but I am the poster of that other post. Another factor that has upset people who aren't progressives is historical figures and peoples having their race changed in historical depictions. All these little things add up and create a bad image of progressivism, and "radicalise" people.

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She hasn't. It was Musk buying twitter and Trump winning the election. No one engaged with her before.
She's too ugly for genuine engagement. Looks matter.

>>41195128
A porn ban or anime ban would end transgenderism in less than 5 years

>>41195866
>having their race changed in historical depictions
by which you mean, portrayed by people of different races in reenactments, plays, and films
unless you're talking about people digging up corpses and bleaching or dyeing skin? or saying historical figures were races they weren't in textbooks?

>>41196332
Like educational books and the like. Also, the Netflix series where they made Cleopatra black.