i got ffs about 9 months ago and the swelling is pretty much gone. i thought i was happy with the results but now my family is telling me me they took too much off my chin and jaw and made it too pointed and that my face too short and round now.and my friends think my eye shape changed more than it needed to with orbital shaving and brow reduction and lifting..did i get bogged? is it over for me? what can i do about it?
>>41218629you look the same to me
>>41218629Its ok, i think they did the best they could with you. You are kids fatty so if your jaw is drooping its hard to see. All good
>>41218629What ffsAll you did was get bangs
>>41218629your friends and family are gonna think things are “off” because they are used to you looking like a moid and a hon. Don’t trust their opinions at this point. Your FFS was a success imo
>>41218629FFS is amazing. In another life I’d be an FFS surgeon. You don’t look bogged at all, btw. You’re quite pretty.
>>41218629You look extremely pretty and as a man I would both assume in passing that you are cis and I would be too intimidated to send you a like on Hinge because you're out of my league Do not let the crab bucket anons in here tell you that you look the same.
>>41218651>bangsit's called a hair flap and it is to *thinly* disguise ahem, "their" forehead magnitude
>>41218677It’s actually to hide the FFS scar
>>41218629>what can i do about it?Get the actual problem areas of your craggy brow and massive orbitals reduced. Your midface is really holding you back
>>41218677they’re just called bangs, are you a retard?
>>41218677lmao the discourse has gone beyond "a neovagina isnt a vagina its a mutilated penis" to "bangs on a tranny are actually "hair flaps" a term i invented 5 seconds ago"desu i hope it catches on its actually kinda funny5/10
>>41218688that's so sad the least breeze kicks up and the scar and the forehead is revealedthat must be so effing stressful
>>41218701it’s really not that big of a deal.
>>41218693bangs start at the natural hairlinetheir hairline is receding so they start at the top of the headit looks super weird and is blindingly obvious in the way a boomer with a toupee is
>>41218629genuinely think they did a decent job, plz drop surgeon name
>>41218700Even most cis guys can't rock bangs because of their receding hairlinesSo yeah it's technically a combover but hair flap seems more accurately descriptive
>>41218671None of it matters if he's a foot taller than real women and hovers over them like a building when he's in their presence. They don't pass being 6 feet tall and 200 pounds. This is a pipedream for AGP idiots.
I'm shocked by all the negative comments in this thread, because that's genuinely one of the best transformations I've seen.
>>41218701we use eyelash glue to glue the ends down to our foreheadsit's a cis girl hack
>>41218712It is if you want to pass.
>>41218733Crabs in a bucket and chud tourists.
>>41218629>my face too short and round now.Thats a good thing
>>41218733You must be new. They are a toxic abusive trip asshole who attacks everyone for the least slight.
>>41218737a barely visible scar isnt clocky. a pre-FFS hon face is. please just shut up already, you’re a retard
>>41218749not when it looks like that tho
>>41218732>NONE OF IT MATTERS IF THESE MADE UP THINGS I JUST TYPED UP ARE REALWhatever fag I would love to make this beautiful woman my wife >>41218733Crab bucket mentality.
>>41218756i would have to see how bad the scar iscould you post it?
>>41218751Pretending her FFS was unsuccessful hurts other trans women more than her imo. Hard to believe when people gang up on someone here desu. Lots of garbage people are liked when they’re friends with certain people.
>>41218781>Pretending their FFS was unsuccessfulThe proof is in the picture they posted, they simply don't pass yet, what's the problem here. You ask we tell.
>>41218779just look up FFS scars. there’s nothing about them that clocks you. it’s literally just a scar.
How do so many here afford FFS?
Pishu come on you look great
>>41218802Insurance
>>41218789Why are you comparing her to the lolicon hentai you jerk off to?
>>41218715>they’re just called bangs, are you a retard?
>>41218817wait are you the one with the face that looks like it caught fire and somebody put it out with a brick?
>>41218824conejo is pretty fuck off
>>41218824No?? Tf you talking about? lol>>41218839thank u :)
>>41218821>they’re just called bangs
>>41218715i see you posting a lotbangs have a triangular section starting at the hairline and can have a different amount of hair pulled into them for different thickness. my bangs start at my hairline and pull in about 4" of hair because i like my bangs really dense. you speak like bangs are a single layer of hair but they're actually many layers of hair shapes to lay together.
>>41218671>out of my leagueHow fucking ugly are you if a mid fat tranny is out of your league
>>41218862the texture of your face looks like concretedid you ever get that fixedyou said you were going toit would make a massive improvement
>>41218871What the fu
>>41218877>you speak like bangs are a single layer of hair but they're actually many layers of hair shapes to lay togetherCorrect "bangs" are supposed to be a singe layer of hair but if you have thinning hair and a receding hairline you have to resort to using several layers which looks crazy weird to people
>>41218881I think you’re confusing me with someone else. Never heard any of those insults and very few people here know what I look like.
>>41218871Why did you not fix that with ffs?
>>41218629Glow up
>>41218871Absolutely busted. How do you get FFS but not fix a hairline that bad??
>>41218900they're not insults you have serious acne scarsyou can get them fixed and really should look into it
>>41218901Well she also has ugly ass piercings on her face and danger hair. Let’s just say this person isn’t making a lot of good aesthetic choices
>>41218871You would look so cute with your hair in a messy bun and the side bangs spilling out omg
>>41218871>>41218887>>41218901>>41218922that is an edited photo i made months ago to troll myself (and it worked too well)it's not even my best edit ive made of myself. look how messy the edit on the hair is where it goes from fake to real.also even after editing it the photo looked too good so i took the inflation warp tool to my forehead to make it worse>>41218891you don't know how hair cutting works lmao. the section for bangs can be as thick or thin, or as layered as you want it
>>41218920I don't like piercings either, but her hair color is amazingly cool.
>>41218929Bangs are a single layer dumbassStop going to a barber and go to a salon for fuck sake
>>41218953admit you don't know how hair worksyour troll schtick is old and boring now, youve spammed it too much
>>41218912They’re not even visible in the pictures I post, dude. You’re really bad at this. Weird you remembered one little insecurity I posted about a long ass time ago. lmaoooo
>>41219022what do you look like?
>>41218953retard spotted
>>41218629Doesnt even look like u had ffs
>>41218979Bangs are a single layer your little infographic proved my point what else is there to say?If you have a receding hairline "bangs" are not the way to go.
>>41219022They are prominent! you post your pic in like every passgen, why are you being like this, you can get them fixed, my friend had them fixed and it changed his life
>>41219027Like a 30 year old lesbian chicana.>>41219069I’m a cis woman. I don’t post in passgen. lmaooo
>>41219106>I don’t post in passgenlie
>>41219184Bruh she's the most well known cis girl on /tttt/ wdym lie
>>41218629Why didn't you fix your nose?
>>41218629big dawg you look fine. Your parents just wanted you to look like a man
>>41218871yes. are you a retard?
>>41218871This is a truly shitass hairline. Is this FacialTeam's work?They even leave cis women looking like this who go to them via their Skullpture brand.It's because of how they do their coronal incisions.Anyway it just needs some transplants.
>>41218629nothing changed. and r u the one who goes around policing behaviour on passgen and wouldgen?
>>41222371>>41222371>the one who goes around policing behaviour on passgen and wouldgen?WHILE thrusting massive tits in hornygen lmfao
>>41218751My only interaction with pichu has been in Passgen in the past and she has been anything but, it honestly feels like a lot of you are just ganging up on her to put her down like assholes.
omg no!! it was very successful you are gorgeous :3
>>41222484noob describing tttt for another noob award granted.
>>41218715>>41218891>>41218953>this oblivious about hairstyling or how bangs workgigamalebrained ngmi
>>41222622this is greatthank you>>41222484im exceedingly mean to chasers in chasergen (calling them overly-horny closeted gay coomer cowards) and in passgen (occasionally telling them to stop chasing in passgen) so a handful of guys on the board have been very very upset with me for a few monthsthey get a bit dramatic with it sometimes!
>>41222758post your hairline
>>41223164you lash out at people in passgen when they give you constructive advice on how you could possibly pass in the futuresour grapes attracts assholesdo better
>>41223194you're assuming it has one
>>41223221no i love getting feedback in passgen and i do my best to cultivate a friendly and helpful and cooperative environment in therei get impersonated sometimes and people make me look like an ass, maybe that was what you saw
>>41218629no shitposting for onceyou look like a girl now, and the difference is like enormous!you didn't get bogged, you got hot! (and no i'm not wantign to hit)who did you go to? i need those kind of changes...
sorry that kinda seemed like brown nosing and that wasn't my intentioni'm just drunk af and tryingh to be honest.
>>41218629its good>short and roujndgood>eye shape changedgood>>41218688wish i wasn't retarded with hair and agoraphobic so i could do bangs
>>41223418agoraphobic? idgi?fwiw you always looked like a girl and all, but full disclosure i only remember post ffsalso some sick freaks think i'm biased, but they're wrong... :/ppl...
>>41218629get the fl*p off this website angel you're beautiful
>>41223453scared of going outside e.g. to the salon
>>41218629Femcel phenotype
>>41222654You’re a bootyblasted chaseoid aren’t you.
>>41223493i was going to write wtf idgi and some morebut not shitting i would be proud going if i looked anything like you! really in imagination i'd be out in the real world living my life as a woman?still not hitting on you (ik you're a reasonale human being but so many ppl here on /tttt think being honest and reasonably kinda nice means hitting on someone :/ )
>>41223546got no bootygot no blastgot the dick that.... 's smal and 'bast (idk i don't make the rythm rules idk wtf!!)
>>41223565petrified of getting hate crimed
>>41218629Beautiful and not bogged at all, no notes pichu
You look like a cis woman now. Your family is saying that stuff because they don't want you to be a tranny and they want their son back. It's literally that simple. "I don't recognize my son anymore, I hate this." Meanwhile the rest of the world just sees a girl.
>>41218629What the fuck are your friends on? You look great. Not only are you extremely cute but you also pass with flying colors. Who was your surgeon?
>>41218629>id i get bogged? is it over for me? what can i do about it?do guys wanna nut inside you?
>>41224727what does that have to do with anything?
>>41224833Thats the only thing that matters
>>41225025that's fucking stupidi don't care if men want to have sex with me
>>41218629Let us see your bare side profile you stupid female
>>41225865nooo i don't have any good side angle pics
>>41218629the difference is absolutely huge, you look like a different person. jelly.
>>41225263You have no social value is why.
>>41218629I would absolutely nut in you
>>41218629normies hate it when you change yourself for the better instead of staying within the little mental brackets they've set up for you
>>41218629These are good results. You went from not passing to passing. Far from bogged. >>41218871Turkey trip desu. Im sorry :(>>41221590coronal incisions are way better than hairline lowering scars imo. But it needs to be combined with hair transplants to the widows peak area to get good results (if needed). It essentially means you're paying 10k extra to not have a forehead scar.
>>41224727Men rape monkeys and lizards their sexual attention is worthless
>>41218629thats what im worired about with my ffs surgeon, like i dont want him to give me a female jaw, just make it not look like a moid jaw. remove the masculinity but dont ruin the aesthetics of my face. so many of them do that completely flat browbone as well as if no women ever have a brow.
>>41218629Are the three on the top pre-FFS and the bottom three post-FFS? Definite improvement but coloured hair only works on cis women imo and not red.
>>41226960>coronal incisions are way betterI agree that coronal incisions are pretty good but I just think FT in particular seem to leave people's hairlines very bad after their work.My hairline is about 1.5cm too high so I'm planning to get a hairline incision without hairline lowering, then transplant in front of it once it's healed.
>>41227055If you remove too much jaw your skin gets droopy. I find some ffs features to be very clocky, like if a person has very high brows with no bone, ski slope nose and a droopy jaw.. brows are often lifted way too high
>>41227074>I just think FT in particular seem to leave people's hairlines very bad after their workI went to FT and saw a lot of results first hand. I got the vibe that a few people opt out of the transplants due to the high cost. >picrelMy hairline went up about 1 cm in the middle but I had a perfect hairline to begin with so it looks fine imo.
I goon to you. Ive got all sorts of fucked up ai edits my cumswap darling
>>41227187You were so cute before that stupid surgery.
you look like a wombyn get of this website faggot
>>41227254if you're talking to me and not kara, can i see one? please?also crazy callback to the cumswap sisters thread>>41226960>Turkey trip desu. Im sorry :(don't worry, that pic is an edit i made of an old pretransition photo on top of a recent-ish photo. not real at all
>>41227187omg i legit feel sorry for you
>>41223251So you still don't pass, now what?What else can you medically or surgically do?Also would ever consider a high quality real human hair well fitted wig?
>>41226960So how does somebody "pass" when 60% of the people in this thread clock them as visibly either masculine or visibly transgender.Hugboxxing is dangerous, please don't.
>>41227605my hair is already well-fitted and made of human hair.because it's my own hair
>>41227624yes but the hairline still needs to be fixed that's the pointas well as the other problem areas of your facei mean what is the next stage in your journey to pass undetected
>>41227918can you point out those areas please?
>>41218629you didn't get bogged. it's: they're having problems adjusting to how you look now. basically, they can't accept you as a woman. ffs makes your face more womanly. it upsets them because you don't look like the man they think of you as in their head. they can't be supportive or objective about the merit of the work because they're transphobic. they'll always see you as a male. they're upset because you don't read as male as you used to.
>>41227932Brow Lift Rhinoplasty Cheek Augmentation Forehead Reduction Lip Augmentation Tracheal ShaveYou already had Jaw Contouring but it will likely need to be redone to fit in with your new feminized face
>>41227941No it's an incomplete transformation. Parts of the face read slightly female ie the jaw/chin but this unfortunately has only served to accentuate how large and masculine the rest of the untouched face is. Lots of work still to be done.
>>41218629Don't know if you'll think higher of me because I only come to this board once in a blue moon, but if this isn't bait, you look very pretty, it's not bogged or botched, instantly passable.
>>41227960you must be retarded. that's the point. they still see OP as a man. to go one step further, it doesn't matter if they have a le forte to shrink their midface. they will always see them as male because that's how they were first introduced to them. it's like long term relationships, regardless of how old they get they still see them as that same person that they were when they first meet. husbands still finding their wife hot because he still thinks of her as the hot chick when they first meet. same concept.
>>41228101Is the only solution ghosting everybody and starting a new life?
>>41228424definitely. it's the only option with ppl that knew you pre-trans.
>>41218629Your face shows signs of aging. FFS was supposed to make you look young again and it appears that failed.You need cosmetic surgeries to reverse your aging to pass like wrinkle botox and a face lift and skin rejuvenation. You also want blue contact lenses because your eyes look too dark and jewish.You should have asked for a small nose.How old are you?
ever1 itt who says pichew doesn't pass is a retard. she passes, you seethe. shrimple ass.also don't chase in /passgen/ and NO i'm not her.
>>41228424Maybe but what if somebody in your new life clocks you.
>>41230510then i deny it i guessif they persist ill just lock down my social media history and delete anything pretrans that i previously missed online
>imagine not having deleted every single piece of social media you had pre-trans>imagine talking to anyone you knew pre-transcouldn't be me i guess
>>41230510>Maybe but what if somebody in your new life clocks you.deny it>>41228630unfortunately this is the only choice.
why would you even wanna talk with ppl that knew you pre-trans? they'll only ever see the repper. they'll never see you for who you are. discard them, it's not worth coming out to them. it's the price of admission we pay.
You look the same just more clean shaven and fatter which is still an improvement. I wouldn't say bogged but maybe a revision could help down the line.
>>41231220This is such a sectarian mentality.
>>41231245one day you'll pass hon.
>>41231263Don't fucking patronize me and call me hon you piece of shit.
>>41231245buddy. you can't go stealth if you have friends that know you are trans. If they know you are trans they can hang that around you like a carrot on a stick. To make sure not to hurt them in anyway or that means blackmail. This only a liability to you as a trans person
>>41231278lawl, guess i hit a soft spot, huh?>one day... just keep believing!
>>41231278Hey bud, I'm not exactly here to bully you but going out like that full 100% just shows that it hurts you which displays you are weak and it is a faulty part about you that you are a sensitive about. The best thing about is to just mind your own business whenever someone does say something like that. Giving them emotions like that is basically defaulting to defeat in whatever, which is why you see so many angry hon videos.
wtf has happened to this board? the privatization of 4t4 was a grave mistake.gimme MOAR /pol/- & /b/-tard raids, gimme moar trutrans hsts tradwifes shitting on everyone else. where is all the YWNBT / -AW?enshittifcation at it's finest. we're woke now, welcome to the 21.25th century.
>>41231587>gimme MOAR /pol/- & /b/-tard raids, gimme moar trutrans hsts tradwifes shitting on everyone else. where is all the YWNBT / -AW?kys
>>41218629is this not just a normal hrt induced pichu timeline?i do not see not ffs here but im a retard so idk
>>41223500Who is top left and top center?
>>41231587Board's getting younger. Zoomer kids are the main user base now.
>>41227087yeah i hate the ski slope nose and so many surgeons do it by default, it looks terrible and obvious that you had work done
>>41230985>then i deny it i guessThey will know though and just not trust you from that point and they will likely pass the info on that you are transgender.You haven't really thought this through, have you?
>>41232976>yeah i hate the ski slope nose and so many surgeons do it by default, it looks terrible and obvious that you had work done>ski slopeWhat even is preferable in comparison?
>>41233270well i hope to achieve stealth and pass...
>>41225263>that's fucking stupid>i don't care if men want to have sex with meresponse 100 percent confirms guys don't want to have sex with you. 100 per percent
>>41234120i got men in my dms hitting on me (from the normal men) and chaser-style chasing me (from the chasers)but i just dont go out to places where people hook up or flirt, irlif i never go to bars or clubs or shows or meetups, how would i know if they do or not?and im asexual anyway. its easier to just not care.
>>41218629Girl you look great, anyone saying otherwise has brainworms or is jealous as shit (and honestly I can't blame them).When did you start E and how long have you been on it?
>>41218629Your face is okay it's your hair that makes you look like an adult who can't cope with growing up
Be malicious tripfag. get support from mischievous rabbit.history repeats.rinese and repeat.
>>41234911what does this mean pa
>>41235017Just hang around a little. and you will learn little juan.
>>41235313oh lol ok you meant lago being nice earlier in the threadshe's cool and has been nice to me in the past but i don't know her really at all
>>41230510then you make like trump and deny deny deny
>>41235313Olive is so prettywhy did she and Lago break up?
>>41218629>Oh, waiter! my lobster too juicy and my steak too butteryI swear y’all are filled of brain worms. You look great. I don’t get why people say you’re fat, how much do you weight? Care to post a full body pic?
>>41236832She said 400 before I think it was Lbs and not kg
You said before that you didn't get FFS, pichu. You fucking liar.
>>41218629Before pic you looked like a faggot and I wouldn’t fuck youIn the after you look fuckable and you pass as a woman, your face looks natural and I wouldn’t guess you had surgeryYou have facial dysmorphia. You went from like a 2/10 to a 6.5/10 (higher if you ask guys who get less pussy than me) and you went from looking like a boy to looking like a girl. You have one of the best results I have ever scene objectively. You did not get bogged, your transition was successful the rest is in your head. You look like a woman that was the deal, being fuckable is a bonus you should feel grateful for. Having an exact image of some other face in your head and expecting to look like that is stupid. You don’t get to sculpt from the ground up none of us do, that’s not a tranny thing it’s a human thing.
>>41218653YES. The thing about families is that they don't want you to get to transition, if you let them have their way you'll not just be a hon, you'll be a straight male with dresses and a she/her pronoun badge. The UK Model. "You have dysphoria? Here, have low-dose finasteride."I'm a bisexual nondysphoric male with male-typical traits. My family didn't even want me growing my hair out, no way am I ever telling them that my "appointments" were for lasering off my body hair. Why are Thai AGPs so much better off than British AGPs? PHYSICAL TRANSITION. Getting a pronoun badge instead of taking HRT while manmoding is putting the cart before the horse. That's why I support TransDIY if someone has dysphoria about male secondary characteristics. It's not even remotely the same thing as being a fujoshi and thinking that testosterone will turn you into a yaoi character, and it's intellectually dishonest for the Kiwi Farms crowd to act like they both have the same regret rates.Just compare the chins in the top left and bottom right pics. Try to tell me that it's NOT an improvement.>>41221590Useful info, hair implants should help with the corners for anyone already on androgen-blockers.
Who was your surgeon? Those are good results
>>41237110Is this moid gonna troon out later? Why so supportive?
>>41218629#1 Lose the bad wig. Grow out your real hair or give up on it all.#2 Your face is too long. You need that Forte surgery that can make faces less long to pass.
>>41238170jesus christtttt it's not a wig lmaodoes it really look like one?
For what its worth, don't listen to these shit fucks the ffs was a great success, now go out, touch grass, do drugs, and be someone's goth GF. <3College me would trip over something and stammer like an idiot if you expressed interest.
>>41238918are you serious? yes, look at how weird the color is and how un-natural your hair sits on your head
>>41231278big dog are you okay?
>>41223607Why Calvin's dad getting sloppy from a ghost
>>41240582Held down and sucked off incorporeally for a reaction image. Quiet cruel desu
>>41218629no, your family is probably just used to your old facein the worst cases they might have even said before ffs to not change this or that cos they think it's perfect or suits you
>>41239446half of your argument for it being a wig is that the color is "weird?" like any dyed hair looks halfway like a wig to you?be honest with me do you say it looks like a wig as an insult, or do you ACTUALLY think it IS a wig?
>>41218653You sound like a groomer school teacher. You are disgusting.
>>41237110They still look like an ugly man with long hair. Real women look nothing like this. You are pretending to be supportive because you are also a failed tranny. Trans people are not fit to judge other trans people because they are biased and mentally ill so their opinion holds no weight.
>>41218629nah you look fine