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Answer what a woman is
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>>41219289
adult human with estrogen dominance over testosterone
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>>41219289
The one who gets fucked
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>>41219289
Every single one of those girls mogs me wtf
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>>41219289
1. If you told the niggers on twitter one of picrel was born with a vagina (even if that wasnt true) they would lament over a "lost confused woman"
So i'd guess the external perception identifying you as female (or female-adjacent, in some cases)
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if I want to fuck you you're a woman because I consider myself straight. If you make my dick hard? woman

deal with it faggot
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A woman is someone who menstruates and makes babies. They ovulate.

If you disagree you’re still wrong.
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>>41219289
person who is percieved and treated as such by society. yes that means nonpassers aren't women that's fine.
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>>41219289
female
ˈfiːmeJl

adjective
1. of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs, distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova) which can be fertilized by male gametes.
"a herd of female deer"
2. relating to women or the female gender.
"a female name"
3. (of a plant or flower) having a pistil but no stamens.
4. (of parts of machinery, fittings, etc.) manufactured hollow so that a corresponding male part can be inserted.
noun
1. a female animal or plant.
"females may lay several hundred eggs in two to four weeks"
2. a female person; a woman or girl.
"both males and females accumulate economic knowledge at a similar rate"
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>>41219289
women = female
transsexual = born as wrong sex

gonna cry from disgust after seeing that video omg i hate sissies
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STOOOOP
YOU ARE MAKING MY DYSPHORIA EVEN WORSE
I CAN'T TAKE THIS ANYMORE I'M LITERALLY AT BREAKING POINT
I AM A WOMAN AND I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU INCEL CHUD LOSERS SAY
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Adult human, in whom a majority of cells lack a Y chromosome.
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>>41219304
wow. that means im a woman.
are you sure?
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>>41219289
weak humans not tolerating alcohol poisoning as well as my ugly xy body does.
...
well, hello? :D
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>>41219289
Not you
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>>41219289
>Answer what a woman is
Whatever fits your mental schema
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>>41219289
yo mama
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>>41219289
Per Sartre's description of being, being is only conferred by observers in relation to the other. If others don't perceive you as a man, and you are treated as a woman for it, you are a woman. You can move fluidly in and out of womanhood depending on your presentation as well as the observation of others but it does not strip your identity of "woman" as that is unrelated to your being a woman in-the-world as seen by others
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>>41219289
>saar answer vat a voman is saar
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>>41219289
someone who isn't a man.
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An adult male who wears dresses and make up
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>>41224987
trannies really actually think this
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>>41219289
pretending you can't understand gender or basic concepts is not very cool of you anon
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>>41225198
I disagree that gender is different from sex, or that that there are genetic males who are uniformly perceived socially as female.
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>>41223117
yeah it's this.
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>>41219289
you're a woman anon, and you'll never be happy until you come to terms with that
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In short, one side gives me that a woman is a human born female, ie. female reproductive system/organs capable of ovulating and bearing offspring, lack of Y chromosome
The other gives me that a woman is, a lot of things that vary wildly, so in short, a feeling, whatever they feel a woman is
So which side is the one that's right? One is based on hard biology, the other in psychology, and even despite being based on psychology, it's based on a very debated branch, remember that until not long ago transsexualism was put under schizophrenia
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>>41226975
Bait
>>41219319
>>41219330
>>41223117
>>41219375
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>>41219289
how do these pictures even get on the internet
if i take an even slightly ugly picture i immediately delete it
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>>41219289
a woman is someone born as a woman and still wants to be such

idc if that doesn't include me i know im a tranny
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>>41226975
>conservatives give me simple and easy to digest answers
>progressives give me complex and difficult-to-understand and sometimes nonspesific answers
>therefore the conservatives are right
how does it feel being an actual retard
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>>41219304
>adult human with estrogen dominance over testosterone
His but also needs a vagina, bio or surgical
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>>41219326
Thats the most fag brained answer, reeks of internalized homophobia
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>>41227020
It's funny you know, because conservatards give me simple answer that non only make sense but are grounded on hard proven science, the same people who worship the kike on a stick.
But the "science" believing left gives me nothing but nonsensical shit, on the same level of what a conservatard gives you when you ask them about their kike skydaddy
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>>41219304
How come no human society in history ever used that as their definition of woman? It was always having a vulva/vag and the capacity to bear children after menstruating
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>>41219289
Anyone with a vagina, ovaries and XX chromosomes. Socially speaking is anyone that looks like a woman, regardless of genitalia (i.e. none of those hons).
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>>41227058
You only say that cause you are an insecure gay man
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>>41227050
Infertile women are still women so having estrogen dominance and a vag is enough to be a woman
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>>41219289
Vagina
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>>41227072
Female babies and children are still seen as future women despite not having physical signs of "estrogen dominance", therefore a vag is enough to be a woman
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>>41227113
Ye, I agree
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>>41227044
>grounded on hard proven science
where does this hard proven science prescribe the meaning of words and concepts that humans invented? what experiments can I do to conclusively prove what a rock, or car, or love is? which atoms do I have to check?
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>>41226975
because you dont check if someone has a vag before you call them a woman; people have realised it's not necessary at all, really. it's very interesting! philosophy and sociology are quite interesting fields :)
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>>41227143
No because in 99.9% of cases people born with vaginas have a specific look to them and people born with penises have a specific look to them, so you can easily (and correctly) assume people's sex by the way they look 99.9% of the time
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>>41219304
Lot of people like this are men though
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>>41227133
Holy cope and waste of dubs
BTW, the "atoms" you need to "check" for is just the lack of Y chromosomes
>>41227143
Philosophy and sociology are not science fields
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>>41219304
>gaming the definition to include yourself
nice try
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>>41227308
>BTW, the "atoms" you need to "check" for is just the lack of Y chromosomes
yea but where does it say that means woman?
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>>41227050
A lot of societies saw anything that bottoms as a woman or at least not male
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>>41227345
>where does it say that 2+2 means 4????
It takes a special kind of self deluded retard.
The very foundation of your biology says it, I'm sorry your brain malfunctions.
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a miserable little pile of secrets.
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>>41227066
>insecure gay man
Im heterosexual despite anon's insistence on the contrary and am very secure in it.
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>>41227308
you have no expert opinion
you have no factual basis
you have not studied the topic or made any effort to learn anything about it
the majority of your opinions come from infographics made by stronger men whose charisma sucks you in
you have a gut feeling about what is "right" and argue it endlessly on social media

in every way that matters you are a hystrionic foid and need a strong man to slap some sense into you
(you) are a woman
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>>41227308
So men can indeed get pregnant? Interesting.
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>>41227409
Having "hetero" in your name speaks otherwise you closet homo
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>>41227308
Is everybody who hasnt done a karyotype test (99% of population) a schrodinger's female?
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>>41227143
Sometimes women are mistaken for a man but they are still women. Vag is what matters
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>>41227398
what does biological reality have to do with words and concepts? biology considers an organism with those traits to be a female member of its species, i don't think anyone would argue that, that's an agreed upon thing in the study of biology. but woman and female are concepts invented by humans to describe the world. they're not passed down by god with unchangeable and specific meanings. "two" and "four" and "plus" are concepts humans agreed on to describe amounts of things and the concept of addition, and everyone will agree with you on them. But if everyone suddenly decided that the symbol "2" means that there is three of something, then 2 + 2 would be 6. Words and concepts exist as they're perceived and applied by people.
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>>41227418
(You)
Learn to make a funny copypasta before embarrassing yourself like this again
>>41227455
No
>>41227469
I'm sorry you missed the memo sweaty, but 99.9% of the time you can guess the gender correctly. And even if a misunderstanding happens, the person is still the gender their biology dictates
>>41227487
Women, female, girl, are words made to describe those biologically female. Can those concepts get twisted as a joke, insult, or to identify a schizophrenic with a weird fetish? Yes, but doesn't change the truth, I'm sorry. We can call you "women" all you want, but we both know you are a man, a male, a boy
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>>41227519
>Women, female, girl, are words made to describe those biologically female
are they really? people describe some fictional characters as women, despite them not existing in the realm of biology at all.
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>>41219289
sloppiest troll post i've ever seen, op. tear his ass to shreds, jannies.

inb4 (OP WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
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>>41227530
Okay now you are just on full cope, kek
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>>41219289
the idea of male and female are related to the material conditions of a culture. to paraphrase lysenko, (i don't know the quote exactly) "in the soviet union, one is not born a man or a woman but made into one."
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>>41227050
This is literally incorrect. Infertile women are still women. Historically it's the vulva that defines the difference. That's what's on your birth certificate (unless you or your parents changed it).
But since in modern society you generally get arrested for not covering your genitals it can't actually be that in real life, can it? Like we shake hands, not cocks. So probably our social categories are also based on hands and not cocks.
Before puberty it's basically all social convention. 4chan will claim there are still differences and sure they're measurable but they're hardly perceptible. Let a boy grow his hair out and people are liable to think he's a girl.
During puberty people usually develop conspicuous differences depending on sex. Some people (me) were medically suspiciously bad at that.
Cross-sex hormones create a separate round. Depending on how first and second puberty went for you the outcome creates at least four possible social sexes:

Male
Female
Damn I legitimately can't tell
What the fuck?

And probably others: twinkhons are distinguishable from and treated differently than boomer rapehons. I suggest social sex is an at least a 2 dimensional spectrum where one axis is male vs. female and the other is WTF factor.
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>>41225151
cringe ass neckbeard fell for the oldest trick in the book: /tttt/ ragebait.
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>>41227569
you really don't have an argument to this, do you? a person usually does not know another's biological reality in daily life, people refer to eachother as men or women without definite knowledge of their genitals or chromosomes all the time. nothing actually argues for "woman" being a biological descriptor rather than a social one, except your room temperature IQ chud refusal to think of anything for a millisecond more than you absolutely have to. It's embarassing to watch.
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i am a woman because when other people see me they on a deep unconscious level go 'that is a woman'
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>>41227050
That's so incorrect I'm convinced you're a drooling idiot hiding from your tardwrangler now
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>>41227654
>noooo why aren't you falling for my 2+2=5 because society and perception and ur a mean chuddie :( nonsense
Also I find funny that the entire trans thing revolves around tricking others, bending and changing definitions to trick people into believing what they have in front of them is a "woman"
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>>41227761
i literally just grew boobs and got prettier its not that deep
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>>41227816
Nice bait, but I will humor you
So growing boobs* and getting prettier** is what a woman is? Damn, I thought you trans folx were allies of feminism
*lards grow them naturally
**warped perception
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>>41227877
>feminism is when ugly
That would explain TERFs
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>>41227877
>So growing boobs* and getting prettier** is what a woman is?
i never said that. it was a description of what i did, because you said that 'the entire trans thing' is about tricking others. i don't care to trick anyone i just look cute and let other people think whatever they want. i think the last time i spoke to anyone about my sense of self in this way was in the 2010s
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>>41227877
also its funny that you say that im reducing being a woman to physical appearance but you have to insist that i am fat and ugly lol
>you're too fat and ugly like men are
girlie you're the one reducing womanhood to appearance. i just said im a baddie because its true i never made any claims about this being an essential part of my womanhood, i was just boasting
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>>41227761
i'm not arguing changing definitions. i'm arguing the definition has always been descriptive. a woman has always been that which is seen to be such by others.
you can do this with any word, by the way. like, try defining "chair" in a way that includes all chairs and excludes all non-chairs. it's quite fun.
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>>41227885
Isn't being ugly to the male gaze part of modern feminism/radical feminism?
>>41227912
>>41227925
I think I broke this tranon
>>41227935
First we make woman whatever society decides, if you are not perceived as one you are not one
Then we equate that definition to that one of the inanimate object "chair"
So women are whatever society feels like and no more than a fucking chair kek
I can hear a feminist having a stroke in the distance
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>>41227962
broke me? you're chatting shit lol
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>>41227962
>So women are whatever society feels like and no more than a fucking chair kek
yes? literally every word is that. you're not arguing against random trannies here you're arguing against all of linguistics. all words are defined by their usage.
you can look at the french academy for what happens when you try to prescribe words from authority. or at how people will call all photo editing "photoshopping" even though Adobe would prefer if you'd drop dead for doing that.
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>>41227962
I'm not a radfem and obviously neither are you.
Sometimes I wanna be extra ugly to the male gaze just so they'll leave me alone. But I've decided it's not empowering to let other people dull my light. As long as I'm doing it for me and not explicitly to appeal to the male gaze I figure I'm good.

>So women are whatever society feels like
Yeah that's what you learn when you fuel a moral panic about trannies in bathrooms and then people start harassing cishons.
In sane society if you misgender someone and they correct you you apologize, accept it, and move on. It's TDS that's got everything fucked up.
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>>41227962
Are you a redditor? Answer honestly
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Women are estrogen dominant and have a pussy. Thats it.
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>>41227988
Holy cringe
You are spewing complete insanity, no wonder transphobia gets more rampart every day
>>41227989
In a sane society you dont have men larping as women
>>41228022
I was going to make a joke, but honestly I dont think there is a place as repulsive as reddit, other than twitter and bk. Tumblr once did, but their aren't even a shell of what they were.
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>>41219304
This. Although you can show feminine signs of a female brain too
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>>41228082
yawn
please try to make more actual arguments it's more fun that way
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>>41228082
>men larping as women
See >>41227578
Literally the problem is you're bitter about troons existing and you're letting it cloud your judgement. TDS.
My actual policy is anyone who claims to be a woman is one, unless she gives me really good reasons to doubt her. Like if someone announces their transition at their sentencing hearing for multiple felony sex offenses. You don't have to get a lobotomy to be kind. It's not an all or nothing proposition.
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>>41228095
No, they need a pussy. Only males have peenos
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>>41228141
>My actual policy is anyone who claims to be a woman is one, unless she gives me really good reasons to doubt her.
Shit policy. Real transsexuals have sex change and violent male perverts keep their cock. Its simple. To become a woman you need a vagina.
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>>41227163
like who?
>>41227026
srs pussies are closer to imitation pussies rather than the actual thing.
>>41227050
we didn't know they existed until the victorian era so we used close guesses. plus trannies didn't really exist yet? so it was significantly more likely to correlate i suppose. intersex was a marvel of biological retardation in those days and largely it was presumed He made you that way
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>>41228193
Srs pussies are fine pussies
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>>41228188
You have to be a sex pest to check strangers so this rule is completely useless to me. As long as they don't whip their cocks out in my presence we're good. If they do it might make me seriously doubt their "woman" claims.
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You can tell people here never touched grass, because irl you can tell a man from a woman at a glance, no need to check genitals, no need to ask. Even the most passing tranny is immediately recognised as a man, the most goblina creatura as a woman.
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>>41228387
Woman is not a feeling you misogynist. Woman is estrogen dominant person with a vagina and penis people have no place in female spaces
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>>41228546
Such male aggression
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>>41219289
Women are my frens :)
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>>41219326
oh you gayyyyy gay
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So we all at least agree that if you're going to be a tranny you owe it to the world to at least have absolutely perfect looks. As soon as you gain a pound, grow a whisker, get a wrinkle or your hairline receses one quarter of a milimeter it's kys time. No one likes hons and no one deserves to be exposed to them.
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>>41228188
What are intersex persons who were born without a vagina then? Are they women or what?
>>41228481
How the fuck do you know that? Considering you didn't ask nor check their genitals you are just assuming everyone who looks like a certain gender is cis and never confirming whether it's true.
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>>41219289
a featherless biped
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>>41219289
How does society not treat this like blackface?
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>>41233246
>how do you know without checking???
Come on anon, go outside, touch some grass, it's gonna be obvious, like an epiphany, you will realise how easy is to tell a biological from a trans
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i hope i end up in one of these compilations someday



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