>>41225073
I can see where they come from, but in my opinion, most of it isnt as important as they make it out to be

>>41225073
The only truscum statement that even made sense has always been that if you aren't on HRT you aren't trans. Meanwhile nowadays we have openly anti-HRT anti-surgery fem presenting "transmascs".

>>41225073
Iv been called this by libs for suggesting that you need to at least take hrt to be trans. I stand by it. If you disagree then chances are you are just nb (not trans). But yeah no one outside of highschool really gaf

The passing part is kind of dumb because dysphoria is independent of your starting stats some lateshits are too good at repping so they snap late, etc.

I do think there is no reason to consider someone trans if they have no intention of medical transition though.

>>41225193
I would not be opposed to requiring HRT to change gender marker on passports or something, perhaps as a compromise if the U.S survives the next 4 years and we are able to talk sane about trannies.

Surgery always struck me as crude and less important than HRT (only really justifiable if someone has bad genital dysphoria), so I wouldn't consider it for the paperwork.

transgenderism is an ideology centered around promoting gender conformity
the goal is to prevent people from being gender non conforming

>>41225073
if you aren't affected by any trans medical bans that happen then your fight is mainly a social identity. I don't think gender conformity really matters but having a dependency on trans medical access aligns us together.

>>41225073
I think all truscum might be transmed but not all transmeds are truscum
the problem with truscum is that they try to exclude with their definitions instead of pushing people to start a medical transition

take your bait ass pic as example
self expression as cope for not feeling like yourself in your own skin is just that, cope
I understand that for theyFABs like in your pic it's the cope they've got but you know what's better than being a seething coping theyFAB on tiktok?
solving the problem outright by starting a medical transition

so I would say I'm not truscum but a HRT accelerationist

>>41225238
and the reason I feel this way is that not being on HRT is the same as having unmedicated mental illness
you WILL be more depressed and volatile for as long as your dysphoria is unmedicated, I dont see much difference in someone bipolar being off meds by choice and someone trans being off HRT by choice

granted the psychoactive effects of feminizing HRT can make trans women less stable, but at the end of a transition they're still generally better off

Meanwhile I claim I'm not trans while taking hrt

>>41226211
lol, your making yourself intersex so your a tranny whether you like it or not

>>41225073
>identifying oneself with the word "transman" unironically
:(

>>41225073
self expression is one thing but being trans is another. i dont have a problem with either it, but dont call yourself trans if you arent

>>41226570
um, no, afabs need to be praised for their choices and TikTok consumption

if you don't have gender dysphoria, you aren't trans. it's like calling yourself a schizophrenic when you don't have schizophrenia

>it just means you need HRT
>anti-enby, gatekeeping is necessary, even on hrt you are faketrans if I dont like you
the truscum motte and bailey

>>41228503
"trans" just means you make efforts to transition
dysphoric is still dysphoric

We have people on hormones who don't transition and we have people who don't really experience dysphoria and transition for the "carrot" and not the avoidance of the "stick".

>>41225218
it's used to be that way. I had to get doctors letters, psych letters, and srs (orchie) in order to get my documents changed.

>>41225073
trans woman who had severe dysphoria, transmed just need a different terminology for us other than "trans ppl with dysphoria"

>>41225073
if this makes me transmed so be it

one should not be able to change their legal sex without being on hrt for like 6 months or a year or smth. given the wide variety of srs it shouldn't be counted towards any legal construct

also, transsexual refers to those transitioning medically and those who aren't should be referred to as transgender.

>>41228811
on the one hand im keeping my girldick and i gave up "passing" long ago cause id rather be a cute tranny.

on the other hand i do have diagnosed dysphoria and it's majorly impactful on my life and i dont see any similarity between myself and someone who doesnt have it. i think if you identify as MtF you should actually regard yourself as a trans woman and put SOME effort to being one at least in private. theres a difference between repping and just being a man who calls himself "MtF", but isn't.

>>41225073
>Their ideology is basically about gender conformity
no it's literally that you need sex dysphoria to be trans
stop appropriating medical conditions

>>41228853
>one should not be able to change their legal sex without being on hrt for like 6 months or a year or smth
yeah just slap an arbitrary low number on it, that will weed out the fakers (cant be too high necause you would exclude hons like yourself)
what is even the appeal or purpose of this shit

>>41228939
>what is even the appeal or purpose of this shit
people claim to be trans women to access women's spaces, be sent to women's prison, to appear interesting. plenty of disingenuous reasons so it's really harmful to actual trans women when these men go out and do bad things under our group's label.

>>41228600
>we have people who don't really experience dysphoria and transition for the "carrot" and not the avoidance of the "stick".
that's fucking weird and not trans. you don't transition because you just... want to :) you transition to alleviate gender dysphoria.

>>41229003
>people claim to be trans women to access women's spaces, be sent to women's prison, to appear interesting
and truscum is when some of these peopel decide to invent fakey excuses as to why they should be granted these things

>>41229362
all that actually matters is whether you pass or not
>ehhm I should get access to womens soaces because Ive been on hrt for 6 months
WRONG

>>41225237
this exactly. transgender people and transsexual people are different and have different materialistic needs.

>>41229333
right transition is the treatment for dysphoria. its like going thru chemo when u dont have cancer

>>41229587
yes. transsexual people need hormones and surgery, while transgender people need to fuck off

Nonbinaries are the reason the trans movement failed. The whole gender and pronoun mental retardation took out all the seriousness of transsexuality as medical condition and being a transexual became in the eyes of everyone some personality trait.

Nonbinaries belong in the trash.

>>41225073
If you don't pass, then what exactly have you transitioned to?

>>41225073
Reading through this thread I have realized how badly this board has fallen. This is why I no longer post here.

>>41229992
if you didnt post this then who...

>>41229992
yeah. the fact there are unironic tucutes here is a bad fucking sign

>>41229992
>>41230730
it's something that struck me when I returned to this board after 8 years. it's basically no different from reddit now

>>41230793
>8/chan lgbt board created yesterday
>one intro post followed hy a bunch of outdated transphobic bullshit
ok

>>41225073
Those are lost and confused mentally ill women

>>41230798
in which reddit trans subs is transmedicalism permitted?

>>41231192
there is one of them that has a more sane userbase than here, which is really funny how the roles have switched.

>>41231192
r/truscum

>>41225167
more poons for me to fuck

>>41225073
White women ruin every White male hobby, even being a femboy or a t-girl.
I hate this so much.

>>41230730
it's literally a very fucking recent phenomenon tho. all connected to the charlie kirk assassination and consequent locking-down of r/4tran4.
that was the containment chamber for edgy tucutes. now they have been swarming this board for the past few weeks. it's no joke, stuff's grim.

>>41231972
i noticed a couple in the last year or so but yeah, it's hit a critical point now. where is there now to even go as a trans woman who wants to avoid their retardation

>>41225073
>you don't conform or pass as your gender, you aren't trans.

Yes. It's the basis of the diagnosis.

>>41225226
Trvke

>>41229992
Times are bad

>>41229333
But people do it despite not giving a shit about being a man because it's ostensibly a statistically lame existence

That's transmaxxing
You just think being a transgirl will help you get more attention and help your autoerotic fixations come to life

>>41234749
trvke

>>41234816
i don't want attention and i have no sex drive. i'm also not a "trans girl", i'm a fully grown trans woman

>>41231972
It's not recent at all. Ever since 4tran was conceived this board has been infested with twittertards and redditards, when majority of which are cis women larping as trans (enbies). It just got a lot worse this year to the point it's intolerable.

>>41230730
>>41231972
where are you guys seeing tucutes here
>>41235416
are you retarded? the 4tran reddits have never had a bunch of enbies. i will give you twitter tho.

>>41234816
>transmaxxing
hate how hsts/agp/tucute/truscum etc. has finally broken through to normiespace, its over