Not a wonder at all that the only significant tranny space on the internet that harbors chasers is also the most violently misogynistic. Chasers on here seem to love to boast about viewing trans women as sex objects, degrading us for having emotional needs and proudly acknowledging that we are often vulnerable and easy to manipulate and take advantage of. They foster a horrible culture of self hatred and shame and have managed to mindbreak alot of you into basing your self worth on how well you fit into a dumb heteronormative 'HSTS' archetype that alot of you won't achieve, not because you are 'less of a woman', but because it's literally just not the type of person you are. Your transition should be entirely predicated on finding your own happiness, not the acceptance and standards of these people. Pay them no mind, or at most use them for money, emotional satisfaction and support the same way they more than likely planned on using you. Please hold yourselves to higher standards.
>>41234587Now, I already know this thread is going to be swamped with the "b-but im a chaser and im not a bad guy, i just like trannies :(" crowd, and you should be treated with about as much seriousness as the not all men types are in feminist discussion. But to humor you, labeling yourself as a "chaser" and devoting your time to pursuing specifically trans women like we are some kind of fucking shiny pokèmon is inherently objectifying. Your interest in a girl should come from who she is as a person, not that she's a tranny, for the same reason it's a massive fucking red flag for someone to say they only date women of a certain race. You want to date a tranny? Fine, drop the weird fucking label and meet one through mutual shared interests like a normal fucking person, if you are pursuing them for anything but their bodies that shouldn't be too hard. There is a reason chasers are not tolerated in any other trans spaces, offline and offline.
Oof Imagine the giant hairy knuckled hon hands that typed this
>>41234603offline and online*
>>41234587All trans spaces are misogynistic, just ask any TERF.Chasers are at least honest about it.
But im trans and I love and respect chasers for loving me for who I am!
tits or gtfo
>>41234587Can't do much with a tranny besides blap her boyhole and reacharound for that ever tempting penis
I like chasers, they're nice to me and funWhy would I choose a annoying transbian over themt. Straight tranny
females are far, far too socially privilege for men having negative opinions of them to matter at all, especially when those opinions are silenced and denied by most of society
>>41234642Not OP but why do chasers immediately turn to transphobia when criticized?
>>41234731I'm not a chaser but ok
>>41234742I dont believe you
>>41234658>just ask any terflol>>41234677This thread is calling out chasers specifically because they are an especially nasty crowd, if I was encouraging political lesbianism I would have just phrased it as men specifically, but I don't believe in that because obviously not all women are wlw. I'm a bishit tranny and my ex was a guy, that relationship worked because we found eachother as friends beforehand and I genuinely don't understand how a similar meaningful connection can be achieved with someone who is specifically looking for you because of a singular attribute they are fetishizing. If you are using them for easy attention that's great, sometimes I go on grindr because I am a little narc and like easy validation, and if you have had relationships that work out with them I'm happy for you :). That is not the experience for all trans women however, and it is better to just not encourage this behavior and the risk of getting too close to a guy who is a piece of shit (which this type of person is more likely to be for reasons listed above!)
Listen nona, you type in a giant block that nobody is going to read, and many of us here love chasers and consider them the ultimate ally
>>41234766political lesbianism isn't reallesbians repressing and dating men doesn't make them not real lesbians, you just want to invalidate gays because you are homophobic
>>41234587this board would improve and be several times more active if chasing was a bannable offense
>>41234642>proves the point immediately
>>41234774if you think chasers are even close to being an ally then you have a hole in your brain. they don't like you. your struggle is a fetish to them.
>>41234731It's just the standard reaction from men who get personally offended by any feminist critique, really. It's genuinely the same exact thing as charicaturizing a cis feminist woman as fat, ugly or blue haired or whatever. It's just even more misogyny in the form of assigning a woman's value to her physical appearance. I honestly appreciate them coming out to collectively screech, really doing a good job at demonstrating they see women for anything other than their sex appeal.
>>41234798And why is that a problem if these incredible successful, talented, hot, caring men have a fetish for me specifically?
>>41234798nobody can outfetish trannys. truly queens of paraphilias.
>>41234757>>41234790>>41234799I'm literally trans retard I just hate when trannies cape for women and act like misogyny is the worst thing in the world. And it's so obvious if you are gonna bootlick for feminism then you're a lesbian and I legit do not care what any rapehon pussy addict or t4t freak thinks. Cis women and lesbian trannies are much much much worse to me than chasers could ever be.
>>41234817>successful>talented>hot>...>posts "post ass babe" to trannies on 4chan
>>41234603>>41234766>>41234799Seeeee, Thats muh girl! Trans people are REAL PEOPLE! and they really really REALLY dont like the stupid shit posers are doing to them. chasers are just whores, and they can tell you allllll about it. Its true you know, you SHOULD get out and try to meet REAL trans people, They dont like stupid shit because it actively hurts them. Kinda like what they do to lesbians, and how STRAIGHT women pretend to be gay, and put a bulls eye on just lesbians, when we have nothing to do with the people putting us in the line of fire.
>>41234774Meh I know, I'm just bored and felt like arguing. I understand not hating them because they are the easiest crowd to get attention from as a tranny, but I'm sorry you have to have some level of genuine delusion to believe they are our allies. A lot of them are proudly transphobic and treat us especially shitty because of that, and strictly pursue us as a sexual interest. This is like claiming men who fetishize lesbians are the greatest allies of that community.>>41234777That isn't what political lesbianism is nona, I have no idea what you are talking about.
>>41234855political lesbianism is the idea that women who call themselves lesbians and used to date men are actually bisexual or that non-lesbians are fake-ly calling themselves lesbians for cloutyou are a homophobe and you belong in a guillotine with your homophobic frens
>>41234866Idk what this means but ok sis
>>41234873holy schizo, battran!
>>41234836This may be news to you but you can actually be a woman and also engage in misogyny, the fact that you are hurt by a critique of it says alot about you and I hope you can grow out of that. I dont really know where this random hatred of lesbians comes from either but this thread has nothing to do with that you are kind of yelling at nothing. This is not a condemnation of men, it is one of chasers.>>41234849This thread is not advocating for political lesbianism or positioning lesbians as superior, you are schizophrenic.
>>41234905misogyny only benefits society because women are evil and malicious with everything they do and say
>>41234873google is free nona
>>41234843Well yeah you cant just settle for the first man that wants to see your ass. Women are the choosers in relationship dynamics and there are so many chasers in line that you have your pick of the best from. My chaser bf is literally the nicest most caring partner ive ever had and I love him very much and hope we will get married someday
>>41234905Trans lesbians are the reason our optics are nuked forever. No one cared about trannies until the influx of transbian hons released into the mainstream consciousness. >This is not a condemnation of men it is one of the men who are attracted to us Lmao okThe only reason a tranny would hate chasers (non bottom chasers anyway those are totally valid to condemn lol) is ifA. They're too ugly to be chasedOr (more likely)B. Theyre dykes who hate men as they are an image of themselves
>>41235005Oh yeah im the other chaser defender itt, bottom chasers are worse than insects
twitter post :/
>>41234587I used to post nice things about trannies but then they let the transbians kill the board.Trannies are by their nature servile. Transitioning is inherently an act of subservience to the "standards of these people". Trannies exist for now other reason than to become our hussy dolls, it's all they want. This is just a classic cope post from a gorillahon who knows they'll never make the HSTS cut and so tries to sabotage other trannies and change the standards, which will never work because trannies only care for gaining the appreciation of cis men.
>>41234929there are no people who are not lesbians who are pretending to identify as lesbians for political advocacy
>>41234780>dude why isn't this board my transbian redditThis board was thriving when there were way more chasers. This board literally died because straight posting was banned. Interaction with men is the only thing that brings even slightly interesting trannies to this board. Ever since the transbian janny killed went on their crusade and the sharty exposed the jannies this board has been dead.Loser hons and transbians want this board to be their wallowpit just like their discords and their reddits, only this is 4chan and they're terminally online clowns so it has just turned into mentally retarded tranny faggots arguing with /pol/tourists in between blog posts and twitter caps. The creatures that have cried time and time again about chasers ruining the board are the ones who ruined the board.
>>41235005>No one cared about trannies until the progressive movement to advocate for trans rights reached the public consciousnessAstute observation, really. I shouldn't have to tell you that transphobia was in fact rampant before this, in fact it was the norm. The reason we see such a massive reaction to the push for trans rights as of recent times is because we are in the public spotlight in general, and we are of course a very easy minority to scapegoat. Trannies in the past were more likely to be what you would consider "hons" because they received care later and had much less support. Ugly trannies get the spotlight with conservatives because conservatives are retarded misogynists who operate on the caveman instinct of "ugly bad", and the association of this with lesbianism is genuinely just delusion and based off of nothing concrete.>This is not a condemnation of men it is one of the men who are attracted to usBasing me being wrong off of me being somehow an ugly hon charicature you have in your head and then claiming chasers are the only men attracted to you sure is... something.Personally I hate chasers because I have a basic understanding of feminism and have the guts to acknowledge when someone is being gross or misogynistic. The few interactions I have had with those who bear that label has been generally unpleasant, not that my personal experience matters when it comes to a theoretical argument condemning all of them.
>>41234587it's really funny and normal how chasers seem to have no concept of what dysphoria is when they're begging their tranny to let them suck her dick but also have flawless knowledge of dysphoric insecurity when it comes to using it as a tool for manipulation, nothing weird about that>pic related>>41234642>>41235050>these posts also related
>>41234799Im not a chaser or a tranny but I just find the whole "if you criticize predatory chaser behavior you must be a stinky HON boogeyman!" retarded
>>41235114I would never bottom. Dysphoria is a trannies personal aversion to being ill fit for pleasing cis men. If tomorrow there was a paradigm shift and the pinnacle of womanhood was a bepenised girl there'd suddenly be a whole lot of trannies talking about loving their "princess wands".
>>41235113You're delusional if you think it's because trannies got into the spotlight. Trannies are in the spotlight precisely because of how you freaks act and present yourself for all to see. And the thing transphobic people are low-key correct, if I were not trans I would totally agree with the modern hatred and disgust for trannies because about 85% of you are degenerate freaks with male sexuality and presentation. I am legit embarrassed to share a space with you people. You've done so much damage and then you claim that the issue is the few men who see past it and treat us like desirable people lol. Actually insane. Take 5 seconds to look at Twitter, reddit, or discord and tell me that trans people are all really cool and normal and not deranged sex pests.
If God didn't want me to manipulate trannies for sex, why did he make them so easy to fuck with?
>>41235149Trannies have always been seen as freaks, nona. "Ugly guy pretending to be a girl to fool men into sleeping with him/get with women" has been the punchline for jokes seen in countless pieces of media for decades and was the view most normies who even knew of the existence of trans people had at the time. Fetishizing this nonexistent past as a paradise for trannies is retarded, the only reason you and most of the people here were able to transition is because we are in the public spotlight, people know transitioning is even a possibility, and our healthcare becomes a pressing concern rather than obscure medical practice. The assumption you would have done better in the past with less protections and options is a big one.The cuckold argument of "we would be accepted if we just cut off this part of the minority the oppressors love to focus on!" is one as old as time, and is never true. You've seen the lengths conservatives will go to just to invent caricatures of trans people that don't exist, create problems to rile up hatred, even if the people you and them viewed as weird disappeared you would still be hated because they are **irrational**.The condemnation of trannies you view as sex pest and then support of chasers is also very funny, I have to say.
>>41235149they don't treat you like desirable people. they treat you like easily manipulatable sex dolls that satisfy a fetish
>>4123521710 years ago trannies were far more accepted than they are now. The only thing that has changed in the last 10 years is that trannies have started defending and accepting predators and freaks into their community under the guise of solidarity. You only reject this reality because you've been programmed to, because it makes you an easy strawman for the powers that be. Proof is that you demonstrate in your last sentence that you understand exactly what that person is saying is true because you can apply it to chasers.
>>41235217Ok so it's retarded to try and distance ourselves from people like picrel. What do you suggest instead? I realize this is an extreme example but it's not really that far off in reality. It's cuckoldry to not want to be grouped in with these people?
>>41235025Leyley my beloved <3>>41235050I see you really got the message across. Really, it's kind of charming seeing the decades old "lesbians and feminists are just ugly women who are mad that men won't sleep with them11!!" trope out in the wild, just rehashed to say trannies this time around. If anything, it's a reminder that you view me as a woman in that you think my only value comes from sleeping with you.I do find the idea that anyone would be driven to this because they are ugly to be very, *very* lacking in self awareness. Anything remotely feminine could go on grindr and get attention from chasers. Your standards are incredibly low and it is always you pursuing the tranny, I don't need any attention from you.
crab bucket thread
>>41234587Imagine how much better off trans people would be if you spent your energy on hating the hons and pedophiles that drag you down instead of us chasers.
What % of this board is just chasers now fuck
>>41235296cockloving faggot detected. do not engage with the cocksucking faggot
>>41235302someone did a poll a few months ago and it was like 30%. it seems to be getting worse, and the board is full of terf and transphobic tourists, as well as tucutes. there's really nowhere for sensible trannies to hang out without being objectified, harassed, or anything
>>41235274What do we do with these people? Just ignore it? No it's the chasers who are wrong
>>41235261>The only thing that has changed in the last 10 years is that trannies have started defending and accepting predators and freaks into their community under the guise of solidarity.Freaks? Yea :3Predators? No. I don't know where this idea comes from, genuinely, because most trannies are political brained and will not defend a predator, it is actually a favored part time for us to invent allegations and start pointless drama, we are women after all.>>41235274> I realize this is an extreme example but it's not really that far off in realityis doing a lot of fucking heavy lifting. I don't know who this person is, I have never seen a tranny who looks like this, and you are doing the exact fucking thing conservatives do to undermine our legitimacy by pulling up random fucking images or accounts of trannies committing crimes to say "LOOK!! You don't want THESE things to exist, do you?" These people will always fucking exist, weirdo trannies, weirdo gays, weirdo fucking anythings will crop up anywhere, and weirdo trannies specifically are given the spotlight because we are the current easy political scapegoat.You wanna know how you prevent people like this from existing? You don't deny them the ability to medically transition, nonono, what you do is ENCOURAGE doing so as much as possible to avoid the harm of forced puberty and give them the resources to transition and look like their gender.
>>41235342>>41235274>Look at these random photos of ugly weird people I found on the internet, clearly this is why trans rights are under attack and not the coordinated effort from reactionaries and fascistsYou are retarded and on the same level as an uncle Tom that claims white people would stop being racist if black people just tried to be more "civil". Conservatives will literally invent stories and fake images to create tranny outrage because they are ape brained retards who can't think past aesthetics. The only reason you have these images is because these same people have put in the immense effort to locate random pictures of ugly hons and spread them far and wide.
>>41235302It's small, always has been, the board is just dead now thanks to transbians.
>>41235279>I don't need your approval>b-but i could totally get it if I wanted to!Proved my point. /thread
>>41235342What do you think the solution is, Nona? Bar the ugly people you don't like from expressing themselves? Fucking genius! I'm sure this subjective, vague and impossible to enforce policy will only be used against the hons that you are imagining and never against you :)
>>41235445They can express themselves sure, as gross as it is but they sure as hell aren't trans. Being a weird crossdresser doesn't mean you're a trans woman. Also don't act like it's just a lookism thing. If you're a hon and really trying and have some self awareness then I can respect that. This is complete delusion to say you're a woman and do literally 0 of the legwork.
>>41235367>>41235445Trannies need to stop falling for the psyop. I don't defend men on the basis that they are call themselves men, trannies need to stop showing solidarity just because someone calls themself a tranny. If you don't want to be guilty by association stop reinforcing that associating, simple as.
>>41235408Reactionaries and fascists wouldn't target us if the majority of our population weren't insane and constantly attacking normal people for living a normal life.
>>41235475You know what, I actually agree! I do think that crossdressers shouldn't be associated with trannies, I think it is incredibly offensive to appropriate our struggle like that. Here's the thing, I do not fucking know the people you have posted and more than likely neither do you. Do you want to know why that is? It is because they aren't the fucking voices in our community, they are not being elevated by us in any way outside of "I'm happy you are finding the courage to express yourself :)", they are given the benefit of the doubt that they will transition, and if you don't give that right to self ID to us, then you place subjective barriers on what offers someone the protections and means to transition afforded to trans people that will inevitably harm more than these random fucking uggos you posted in this board.>>41235496>Trannies need to stop showing solidarity because someone says they are a trannyWe actually don't do that because any conservative jackass can say they are a tranny. We do that because it's not fucking something you would usually lie about because being a tranny comes with immense social stigma, and the people who are in our communities will almost always be actual trannies. You post a bunch of masculine people self ID-ing as if it fucking means anything because you are operating on the conservative understanding that "You just have to say you are trans to be trans". I can't tell if these people are trans because I don't fucking know who they are based off of random images because you cannot determine if someone is trutrans based off of appearance alone, it is entirely subjective.
>>41235606>it's not fucking something you would usually lieLOL you are naive anonetteAnyway trannies constantly do that, literally any time someone calls themself a tranny and is under scrutiny there is a legion of trannies making themselves guilty by association. Even if you don't do it you can't peretend it isn't the problem.
>>41235500This is not true and the only way to come to this conclusion is if you have been driven into tranny psychosis by this board constantly posting hons nobody knows or cares about doing stupid shit. I grew up in a progressive area and have known I was a tranny since I was 12, I have been around hundreds of trannies growing up and will sregularly interact with many at pride events or online. The vast majority of us are normal, if a little traumatized and stunted by being forced to be something we aren't. The people you are talking about are a marginal, tiny fraction of us that you are hyper exposed to.
>>41235672I've met them in person and online. I've even lived with some. If you're claiming people like this don't exist you're either lying or never went outside or online
>>41235618>trannies defending random ecelebs on Twitter and being kinda annoying sometimes is the actual fundamental issue in the struggle for our rightsyea sure man whatever.I'm really not even sure why I'm entertaining this, the belief that there is a covert mob of people pretending to be trans because it somehow makes life easier is ridiculous, especially coming from another tranny who knows how fucking awful most people treat us.
i like how the OP is just talking to themselves
>>41235717>there is a covert mob of people pretending to be trans because it somehow makes life easierNever said this
Wait I just realized you're the same op as the weird "porn is good actually" thread. Like pottery.
>>41234587Do trans girls really think they can just live their life, pass, meet a straight cis handsome man at the grocery store or a 4th of July BBQ event and then he will be fine with never having kids, dealing with the medical complications and giving up real vagine? Does this happen?How often does this happen?does everyone know someone this happened to?
>>41235952It never happens. They either get with a bi man who loves trannies or they mope around until they find a "straight man" (closet homosexual/tranny) who will suck their gock and then leave them after they help them discover themselves.
>>41236097>"straight man" (closet homosexual/tranny) who will suck their gock and then leave them after they help them discover themselves.Is it really that bad? Why live in such painful delusions? Find a nice chaser that wants to top and be done with it.
>>41236308Trannies can be safely divided into feminine souled bottoms looking for a masculien souled top and mentally ill people looking to validate a fixation they have. And part of that fixation is gaslighting the former into self-sabotaging like the latter.
We love your posts kuromifriend
>>41234587Its funny seeing "dick girls" here cry about ruined tranny optics. You ruined it! :) nobody would hate trannies if we all had srs. Its literally your fault for wanting to be called a woman while loving your male cock and balls.
>>41234587The only trans girls I consider real people and worthy of acknowledging and caring for their emotional issues are those willing to top me.
>>41238706which is why you will die alone and miserable. and also why we don't want you here, faggot
am I a chaser if I don't care what the tranny identifies as so long as they get dressed up in pretty femme lingerie and get aggressively fucked into oblivion by me while bent over?
>>41234587Tbh its half the reason I prefer to date women, If I date a man I have to worry about him either trooning on me or being sexually perverted
chasers>"i think dickgirls are hot">has commitment issues because of transphobic culture doesn't accept them as straight>has a careertransbians>sex pests most of the time>have multiple mental illnesses>have weird fetishes>addicted to hard drugs>half of them have hiv/aids>either work in tech, do onlyfans or are a neet>hate men and any traditional aspect of their culture>have weird far left politics