children never benefit from castration and are never born in the wrong body

>>41234704
Shouldn't have gone after women's sports.

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>>41234804
>>41235292

>>41235292
>women are sore losers.

>>41234704
what book is that?

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>>41234704
Fad 2015 SJW politics psyoped trannies into believing the three most deadly delusions you can, that people who agree with you are your ally and good, that people who disagree with you are enemy and evil, and that there are no such things as bad tactics only bad targets.
The result being that freaks and predators infected the trans community and were defended there, trannies became inflexible and uncompromising believing that they could bully people into curtailing to them.
Outside of horseshoe niggers the principle that most people live by is "live and let live". People just want to be left alone. The best way to mobilize these people is to make them think that their free speech, their children or their living is under threat. Trannies have allowed themselves into being socially programmed into presenting as a threat to all three.
This is the objectively true and correct answer. The only people who disagree with it are the programmed drones who react heavily to this idea because part of their programming is to reject it at all costs, even though they themselves can't explain why.

>>41235502
Sorry was having lunch, it’s six conversations were scared to have by Deborah Frances White

>>41234804
i personally believe all children would benefit from castration

>>41235601
yes this is clearly the answer and its absolutely not demographic drift during the decade that saw mass jeep transition or the AFAB grifters who used and dropped trans people the second they became no longer useful

>>41236783
well that's extremely harmful

>>41236801
to straight people

>>41236806
straight people don't exist

>>41236835
well sure, but theres a lot of pedophiles out there right now who really do insist that theyre straight so

>>41236800
Literally the same thing.

>>41236853
not quite but i can absolutely see why youd think that

>>41236840
>who really do insist that theyre straight so
>I believe in jesus
>I have a female soul
people say a lot of things

>>41236862
what the actual fuck is a female soul lol

>>41236865
when you have feminine interests and feminine behavior but your body is male

>>41236881
what if i view sewing and knitting and such as masculine behaviour?

>>41236891
well, they aren't

>>41236901
why not?

>>41236928
because women take care of children and thus have more incentive to be able to create the things children need like blankets and clothes and children frequently outgrow garments so for poorer women learning to sew would have been a vital skill in the years before Amazon

>>41237101
yes but this is a post amazon world so tell me again why sewing isnt manly

>>41237103
because its something a man wouldn't need to do a man can buy his clothes its something women would do to pass the time cuz they are bored sitting at home being pregnant or old and widowed cuz their husbands died 20 years prior from a stroke from working in a factory to put food on the table

>>41234704
we need to RETVRN

>>41237108
what if im a male sat at home bored in 2025

Conservatism is unscientific garbage beyond words
At this point I am convinced conservatives should just be banned from politics since their entire philosophy is based on "muh nostalgia" without considering the wider reasons why we left something in the past
>>41234704
Weird how representation really changes peoples view on things, almost as if diversity works
>>41235292
>doesn't even consume womens sports
Cuck pls everyone knows you just feel shameful for watching shemale porn too often when young
>>41234804
They're born with gender dysphoria tho and deserve treatment

>>41234704
your excerpt is literal intelligentsia bullshit. 2011 few people outside of the internet even knew what a transperson was, and half of the lexicon we have didn't exist. you want to know what went wrong? the retards who pushed all this shit around 2014 dropped the ball hard. instead of having nuance, they just went balls to the wall revolution on every facet of culture. anyone that wasn't stupid knew that a pushback at some point was inevitable. thats how trump happened.

>>41237213
First term Trump was honestly fine for us.

>>41234704
Even back then Britain was a shithole
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Lucy_Meadows
In the background, you can see discourse between Trans people and British journalists on early-Twitter. Before anyone was talking about being 'cancelled' a few of them flounced and temporarily deleted their accounts, and the other journalists closed rank.
I'm convinced that Britain's specific transphobia is rooted in their classist instincts - "how dare these gutter trash talk back to me, don't they know I'm a journalist who went to Oxford and I can joke about trannies all I like?" - and continued seething about it.

>>41235601
People will make you look bad no matter what you do. You could reduce the number of freaks and weirdoes by 1000% and the press would still find the one remaining person and highlight their antics 24/7.

>>41237424
The problem is never the bad individual it is always the wider reaction of trannies. Trannies need to learn to just say "this person is bad" and nothing else.
If everytime a man was convicted of rape a large portion of men came out of the woodwork to say "not all men, plus real men don't rape and also you have to respect his pronouns, and really if you think about it we're the victims because this will be used against us" men would rightfully be reviled.
It didn't work with Muslims and they had the presence of mind to stop it, it didn't work with blacks and they had the presence of mind to stop it, it never worked with trannies yet somehow they still haven't got it figured out.

>>41237450
fuck off
you make literally everything possible about trannies
a cis man kills charlie kirk and the right is screaming for tranny blood
it has absolutely nothing to do with however you imagine trans people react to the rare occasion some lunatic gets on tv

>>41237472
well, give us the tranny blood and the screaming will cease

>>41237472
>cis man kills charlie kirk
>trannies rush to social media to very publicly and visibly grave dance
>"reeee why are cissies making this about us!"
Case in point. You literally provided an exact example of what I was saying and proved me right.

>>41237489
>>trannies rush to social media to very publicly and visibly grave dance
just like every other leftist, just like every conservative does when a liberal is attacked, etc.
trannies have not done anything worse than any other demographic, but when it does happen there's massive demands for trannies to lose rights, huge public hatred, attacks from politicians, etc.
you just want to be able to say whatever you want about the people you hate, and for them to never argue back. And when they argue, it's now their fault you hate them for arguing.

>>41237501
>"b-but he did it too~!"
>"its not fwair!"
Grow up.
You went from
>this doesn't happen
to
>okay it does happen but it's not fair
Just concede that I am right, that trannies need to change if they want to stop this from happening, and move on.

>>41237450
1. You are never going to coordinate every extremely online trans person. This is a deranged fantasy. For pretty much every other minority group, they had the advantage of having spokespeople go forward in the pre-internet age, before bad-faith actors could go on Twitter and 'disprove' their point by finding a random tweet from a mentally ill person.
2. You are never going to win with British journalists.

Stop looking at other minority groups and start looking at - say - Corbyn. Corbyn and his allies jumped through nearly every hoop they asked for and they still demolished him. They outright invented incidents, like pretending a pro-Corbyn guy attacked a cabinet minister during the election (which the minister himself repeatedly denied), or manipulatively editing a BBC documentary to make it look like A Jewish staffer was describing antisemitic abuse from Labour members (when actually they were giving examples of things random Neonazis had said to them), while downplaying or ignoring stuff like the army practicing shooting by firing at a picture of Corbyn or the Finnsbury Park Mosque attacker's first target being Corbyn.

If you're American and this is just confusing rather than illuminating, let me give you a different example: Furries. Furries have a few optics-obsessives, sure, but there are plenty of freaks and weirdoes, and they get pretty good press nowadays. (Even if the occasional news presenter bursts out laughing when hearing they've been gas-attacked.) So far as there's an anti-furry crusade, it's clearly part of the general anti-youth crusade, a hysterical adjunct to the anti-trans crusade that imagines people are actually "identifying as animals". If you want to imagine you're the media coordinator for all of transness, what you want and need is to emulate the optics furries, go out and try to get positive press, insist there's only a minority of weirdoes - you're never going to coordinate everyone else into not being weird.

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>>41237518
>just stop defending yourself!
kys

>>41237527
Furries are a perfect example of why I am right
>fringe community starts
>practices acceptance
>quickly becomes filled with freaks and preds who bastardize it
>becomes infamous for these bad actors
But see here is the important part
>furries rally against those people
>furries largely don't defend people on the basis that they are a furry
You see if trannies could just get those last two down they'd be fine.
It's funny to me how in order to argue against this you trannies always have to change my point to make it "you have to silence literally every bad tranny" which I never said.
I made a clear, concise set of conditions and I am right so you can't argue against it so you have to strawman it.
>>41237549
Name a single time trannies defending themselves has helped? Just once? When did it ever happen?
It's funny to me that it has never struck a trannies servile brain that this vehement culture of "anti-pick meism" is so prevalent but has no basis. Because it is literally a psyop. You have these canned twitter caps because there is no argument, it's just social conditioning designed to make sure trannies never, ever improve or make any headway and continue to be villain of the week forever.
I don't hate trannies or their cause, I just think that trannies are highly programmable useful idiots and that's why they're the GOPs strongest soldiers.

>>41237565
you're just using a selection effect in bad faith
if you ask "who is defending this zoophile who happens to be a furry on twitter", the answer will be "a bunch of furries", it's just because you're willing to use your brain in this case (and because journalists don't care) that you can go "obviously, these furries are not representative, most furries are better than this".

furries have not rallied against 'those people'. every major furry art site allows fetishes and users who would be beyond the pale for ordinary people and nobody cares. a sufficiently motivated bad faith actor (politician or journalist) could obliterate them in very short order by showing normies the worst parts of the fandom and pretending they're representative. (at the moment they generally do the opposite, showing the most inoffensive parts as if they were representative...)

>>41234704
before 2016 maga chudout. hyperwoke fucks wanting to virtue signal and sabotage from inside by chudcapitalist forces (like happened to hippoe, cultural revolition movement of 60-70s) are to blame.
>>41234804
wrong
>>41235292
this
>>41237565
furries are mixed bag, they hace some good art and webconics but half are eitger fucken loons or megapervs.

>>41236835
can't prove a negative

>>41237108
You have peak comedy misogyny
You literally live in a male autism nightmare sexist alternative world

>>41237565
They hate you because you're right

>>41237619
The furries defending zoophiles are themselves zoophiles. The trannies defending faketrans preds are regular trannies. There is no narrative in the furry community that you have to defend a furry because they are a furry and yet it is prevalent amongst trannies.
Even when they're not directly defending bad actors they're defending their pronouns, arguing they're only being targeted because they are trans, or bitching because of how this makes trannies look.
The fact that you reject this shows how absolutely right I am that you are the problem. No matter how much it stares you in the face it has to be "muh journalist" "muh politican" but never, ever is it the fault of a tranny.

>>41237831
trans people do not have enough power or reach to be the source of their own institutionalized (e.g. governmental) hate.
i can accept, on some level, that the anti-trans backlash on something like 4chan is rooted in just how common trans people are in autist hobby places. that's easy for me. i think there are other notable factors, sure, but it'd be silly to deny that.
what i cannot accept is that the collective actions of trans people explain why serious political actors care about them. i have little interest in defending extremely online trans people as a group (you're one guy and i'm not going to make you like 'em, who cares?), but i think your perspective on the issue is much too narrow, it doesn't spend a lot of time looking at examples outside these groups.
(e.g. in my case, i can explain it as rooted in the general institutional rot of the UK, as embodied in all the nonsense that was deployed to stop Jeremy Corbyn from becoming PM. Corbyn isn't even a very competent man, it shouldn't have taken as much effort as it did!)

the UK supreme court did not come to a contrived, unimplementable ruling because someone insisted you she/her chris chan on speedrunning twitter. the idea is abusrd on the face of it. UK polls show public opinion following political institutions rather than leading them. trans people on twitter were annoying in 2020, yet public opinion was fairly supportive. trans people are still annoying on twitter in 2024, but now public opinion is hostile. clearly, 'trans people being annoying on twitter' can't be the answer to "what changed?"
"the press and government turned against them" is a very tempting answer to me, particularly because it's already how i explain why Labour lost the 2019 election with 33% of the vote and won the 2024 election with 33% of the vote. (The press swapped from undermining Labour to undermining the Conservatives, Labour changed from opposing the status quo to supporting it and were given an easy ride.)

>>41237996
Cope.

>>41237565
Trans activism is very cult like as well. Detransers are treated like those that leave the cult and hated.

They try to push 1 way to be true trans as a purity test. Not to mention egg culture is just pure grooming/converting and they do defend eachother like cult members do even when some are purely in the wrong. Republicans don’t have the balls to do camps but I wish they did

>>41238052
why do you think Labour won the 2024 election
(was it because of puppygirls on twitter?)

>>41237501
This, I genuinely hate them and the last few years wait no the last decade has shown that right wingers are allergic to principle and will simply do and say anything to gain power. Right now they are doing everything they accused the left of for a decade because they are fascist cry bullies.
I despise that my country is being ruled like a high school by a bunch of over grown man children

>>41234704
unc
or maybe aunc?
idk but you're rlly old
in 2011 I was busy being 6 years ol

>>41234704
it’s crazy how positive things looked around 2015 with Caitlyn Jenner, Laverne Cox, Janet Mock and Laura Jane Grace being relatively accepted in the mainstream and a lot of cis people engaging with trans issues with genuine curiosity and good faith. maybe I’m just looking back with rose tinted glasses but it seemed like back then they approached with a real desire for understanding

>>41238876
>Caitlyn Jenner
The number of fucking threads here when she came out.

>>41234704
All you had to do was leave children alone

>>41239091
Get away from the HRT, or Little Nathan gets a head full of lead.

>>41236806
“Straight” is a slur and there is not, nor ever has been, any such thing as a “homo”sexual

>>41234704
Someone needs to check your hard drive

>>41239124
Smartest rightoid thinks I'm responsible for the content of a book.

>>41239134
Clearly your sympathetic to it. And a trans

>>41234704
Sucks you ruined your life for one of the many post-financial crisis identity memes
But feminine penis should have been a dead giveaway people were lying to you

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>>41238640
>accused
And did. You can’t be upset the right is doing exactly what you did
>but they complained
And you set the precedent

>>41239157
>a trans

>>41235396
>and 99% of the world backs them on this issue

Trannyism is a psy-op (one of many) to distract the public while they are enslaved.
If one day, something is relatively unheard of, and then, suddenly it's everywhere, it's an op.

>>41238108
>Trans activism is very cult like as well. Detransers are treated like those that leave the cult and hated.
If your definition of "hated" means "being questioned and treated as they had responsibility over their actions, yes. I am not accepting a nigger that transitioned at 24 as "a groomed little female mutilated girl"

>>41239240
>>accused
>And did. You can’t be upset the right is doing exactly what you did
The meme is still going? Republitards are a mental illness, i seriously wonder how democrats never grew a spine and shoot you all out like rabid animsls yall are
>t. eastern europoor

>>41239529
she was 24 you sick fuck

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>>41239547
yep. eastish europoor as well. republicans they are looney bin tier. our chuds are enlightened sane and angelic by comparision. burgeristan might devolve into neofeudalism theocrazy. mind boggling, my wacky shithole is 100times smarter and saner than murica.

>>41237131
Excuse me sir. You are advocating that children be given access to medicine that will castrate them and stunt their natural development.
Please try pitching this idea to juan, cletus, and tyrone who work at the warehouse in your city. Then tell me what they think of your philosophy surrounding gender and if they would support doctors being given the authority to prescribe these pills behind their back

>>41234704
Ok groomer.

>>41239547
>we never canceled anyone! We never used white male as a pejorative!
Literally no one but your cult falls for such bold faced lies and they only convince sane people to oppose you even more. Thank you for continuing to remind voters about your deep dishonest and falsehoods

>>41235601
>Trannies have allowed themselves
I didn't agree with any of that. trans people aren't an organization like the GOP, there is no spokesperson. all this crap is a puppet show.

>>41239649
>sir
Based I'm handsome
>emotional garbage
Science doesn't care about your feelings

>>41236865
what's a male soul?
it's the distaff counterpart to that

>>41241122
a male soul is what i have, because male is what i enjoy

>>41239115
i appreciate this post
it is a good post

>>41240937
nta but are you esl?
answer honestly