He might be onto something...
>>41250671I don't like this question, and it's mostly asked by those that aren't deep enough into the transgender rabbit hole. The fetishists don't care about SRS, they're mostly focus on HRT these days. Hence their obessions with "gock" (porn-brained terminology).Hence the better question should be:"If biology is unrelated to gender, why does changing your biology affirms your gender?"I predict 3 types of response to this quesiton:- Either admitting a transmedical viewpoint.- Or saying that gender-affirming care is not necessary for transgender people.- Or having an incoherent idea on what transgender even is.Given how this board is more transmedicalist than other trans-spaces, I would suspect people here would pick option #1.
>>41250671>if genitals don't define genderThey do though. Hence why trannies get orchis at the very least.
>>41251001>Given how this board is more transmedicalist than other trans-spaces, I would suspect people here would pick option #1.>admitting a transmedical viewpoint.Yes? The tumblrtards who were making the arguments rightoids are dunking on were never trannies to begin with. It's all a bunch of bullshit.
>>41250671because i didn't transition for want of being a woman i transitioned for want of being female
fine then every cis man gets srs then
>>41250671no, definition and affirmation aren't the same kind of thingsfor example, gender could be defined as a cluster of things that have conceptual coherence, and so if that includes genitals and genital experiences, then altering the genitals could affirm due to genital experience becoming more congruent with other aspects of gender, all while not touching the definitionit's like not even a difficult idea to grasp
>>41250671Ez answer: SRS prices can rise above the 100k range. Most trans people have their birth sexual anatomy. The argument is based on the wrong foundation, so it can't make sense.Hard answer: even if SRS were free for all and something most trans people have done. Literally the argument being made is why many trans people get SRS, because the normie fucking retards can't move beyond genitals. They are just so god damned obsessed with genitals.
No, he isn't. Hope that helps
>>41250671If genitals define gender, then removing them affirm it If removing them doesn’t affirm it, then genitals doesn’t define gender If you can define gender by genitals but removing them and doesn’t affirm it, then there is a contradiction with the first statement Suppose: For any genitals, they define gender To show: When removing those genitals you affirm gender The negation of this is: There are some genitals that define gender, but when removing them doesn’t affirm gender. Okay, trannies help me to finish this proof, I think the best approach is to show a contradiction.
>>41251535I think I have a counter example:When a baby is born, its gender is define by its genitals, so let’s remove the genitals of this baby. Suppose: Baby has genitals and its gender is define by them To show: If you remove the genitals, that affirms the gender of the baby All the babies are born with genitals, male, female, and intersex. If you remove the genitals of that baby, does that affirms the gender of the baby? Next question, what’s the gender of a baby without genitals?… So by contradiction, you cannot remove the gender of a baby by removing its genitals, because a baby always will have a gender, but by removing them then you leave the baby without gender, that affirms that the baby has no gender, but what’s the gender of a baby without genitals? So you don’t actually remove the genitals, you do CHANGE them.So the statement “if you define gender by genitals, removing them affirms it”, is false, because when you remove the genitals you remove the gender, and there is no human without gender, you just CHANGE the genitals, you do not remove them. And by changing your genitals you do change your gender!
>>41251001You dont like this question because he's right
>>41251001Only option #1 makes sense in the choices you laid out. I am not going to say that gender affirming care is unnecessary, that is not what my personal experience holds true, and it risks someone justifying taking it away from me. And I would like to say I can tell what a transgender person is because I am one. Ergo I must hold a transmedicalist viewpoint.Therefore, regarding OP's disingenuous question, genitals do make up some part of what defines gender. When you recognize someone's gender you also assume the have the corresponding genitals, even if you haven't directly seen them. When I CHANGE my genitals it does affirm my gender.
>>41250671google gender dysphoriathis is why i really REALLY hate the rebrand of transsexuality and sex reassignment surgery to "transgender" and "gender affirming surgery". like no retard i'm not affirming shit. i wish the concept of gender didn't even exist. my brain is simply a different sex due to some biological developmental fuckery, and i am changing the sex characteristics of my body to match my brain, because of deep psychological distress that you would also feel if your body were a different sex from your brain. we really have become so woke that we are shooting ourselves in the foot and looping back around to justifying transphobia.
>>41252360women isn't a feeling a man can experience
>>41252371sorry you can't ever experience the feeling of a woman
>>41250671
>>41252509you're just claiming to know the internal feelings and thoughts of other people (an unknowable thing)
>>41252621i was mocking you for being an incel chud who spends his days epically owning trannies on an obscure internet forum but it seems you are also an actual retard
>>41251001>"If biology is unrelated to gender, why does changing your biology affirms your gender?"how does removing your genitals change your biology tho
>>41250671Gender and sex are klearly very klosely relatedSosiety has developed from a konseption of gender as direktly konnekted to sex ,to one built on sex but not immutably tied to itHowever Im a transsexual so uhhh ...
>>41250671dos xiniren know that passoid dickgirls won't like him if he keeps going to anti trans protests?
>>41251001biology is not unrelated to gender.https://sinceriously.blog-mirror.com/intersex-brains-and-conceptual-warfare/
>>41254002oh man we got an actual zizian here. I will simply disregard the mad rantings of a retard who watched too much Steven Universe and Harry Potter and read real philosophy, thanks.
>>41250671>if expensive fancy things don't define your wealth how does acquiring them affirm it?are you retarded anon? do you know what a definition is?
Wait until you find out cuntboys and dickgirls exist
>>41251014Orchi makes no difference, its still male genitalia.I want to be a woman so I want the woman genitalia. Its very simple. I don't want to have sex with gay men who like cock
>>41251045Gender is defined by genitals. Men have penis and women have vag (srs)
>>41254002huh this is a great read
