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am i gonna be okay with only 2 vials if i live in the us
how long does a 10ml vial last? do you throw it out before it has the chance to go bad, or due to contamination/coring? cuz calculating the dosage, one of those should last like, 1 year and a half
same question as the other anon, i was gonna use mine until it ran out
Are you allowed to go to a different city for planned parenthood and have them send the meds to a place in your city? It's only a 50 mile differenceI'm 34 but I'm terrified my ex gf that works at the planned parenthood I don't want to interact with someone I dated 13 years ago....
>>41270483hi hrtgen
>>41270984>>41271068if you're careful while using the vial (such as disinfecting with alcohol swabs before drawing medication and using fresh needles and needles of the correct gauge) you probably don't need to worry about things like contamination or coringhow long the vial lasts you depends on the kind of syringe/needle you use. There is a difference in the dead space (the volume that gets wasted)to minimize this you can use insulin needles which have an almost negligible dead space. regardless of all this your vial will probably last you a bit under 1.5 years if you account for wiggle room to adjust your dose
https://hrtcafe.net/Calc/index.htmlyou can use this to calculate approximately how long your vial will last
>>41271247do you think she'll still recognize you?
>>41270941you should keep at least a dozen vials>>41270984visually inspect the vial for particles
>>41272911>you should keep at least a dozen vialsdon't they go bad in 3-5 yearsi need new ones eventually anywaysbut will i be good to order in 2 years if i'm diy
hi do any of you have that one pastebin for exercise? i think it was made by catboiaoi or something but i can't find it at all
>have ~3-4 year of hrt left>planned on ordering more in 2 years b/c vial expiry>worried i won't be able to get it when time comeswhen will it start becoming unsafe to order diy as an american?
>>41270483Basic bitch question but how reliable is astrolabs and how quick do they ship to the uk roughly..?
If I want to lactate someday, how would I go about that? Does prog help? Planning for the future mostly. Not currently on hormones but will be on Estradiol Enanthate within 2 weeks.
ive read conflicting info can someone help me out?if i wanna do mono with een injections what is the correct dose? i know it varies person to person but just the most common is fine.
>>412781764-5mg weekly (sometimes it can be 6mg)5-6mg every 10 daysbest thing is to do bloodtests after around 5-6 weeks to see your levels and then adjust your dose
what's the pros and cons of een vs ec?i got ec because it's easier to get a prescription if i ever stop doing diy but idk if i'm stupid for that
>>41278399you can just swap to ec if you ever do need to its fine to switch types
>>41278399een and ec are very very similar afaik. een is more popular but their half-life is very similar
>>41273228>>41276290things will (probably) get better by midterms but you should be ordering raws anyway even if you dont know how to compound them>>41278171dont know much about this but i do know that you should 1: wait until breasts are fully developed (and prog will help with that) and 2: you need to take domperidone to actually start lacating>>41278399see: https://estrannai.se/#it0__cu,4,7,2-cu,4,7,3
>>41278483i'm too stupid to order raws and i'm scared of them getting seized and stuff
So if i was gonna get a spray, would I probably have to shave the spot I’m spraying? And how much would I probably lose out doing armpit vs balls?
>>41270483pro gesty roni - is this ok: https://www.inhousepharmacy.vu/p-2079-endogest-200-progesterone-200mg.aspx
hrt bump
is 5mg of estradiol valerate per week bad?
How reversible are the effects of hrt? I’m still unsure if I wanna go through with it, some days I’m fine other days I get hit with a brick of dysphoria. One day I’m certain I wanna look fem, the next day I think it’s best to just manmode it. I’m mostly scared of my family rejecting me, (even though they’ve been supportive of me in every other instance). That and being scared of the current status of trans people in the US. I’m almost 28 and I feel like if I don’t start now I might as well never start. If I end up hating it, how hard is it to roll back? Fuck my stupid enby life.
>>4128367428 is rough depending on whether you have good twink genes or noti trooned at 26 but i also would still get carded for booze up until then and never had male pattern baldness so i didnt worry too much about it.at 28 you shouldn't care about mom and dad's disapproval, but honestly depending on the degree of social dysphoria you have you can just not come out IRL. personally i never did and besides vague disappointment from my dad over being soft and effeminate looking i don't deal with many issues (still on good terms with him though ive been a failed male since forever so yeah). any friends that bring up the changes i just placate with "oh skincare, oh im sleeping way better", i do wear a binder if any tit hiding clothes arent appropriate tho because ttheyre a dead giveaway and wearing a baggy hoodie in summer is just weird. and going to the beach is something i am likely never going to experience again. but eh, it is what it isas for regret, i accepted the fact that i will regret either decision, transitioning has so much bullshit attached to it but not transitioning would mean looking like a middle aged dude. i just visualized both scenarios 15 years from now and i realized that i'd rather experience the soul crushing regrets as a facsimile of a woman than as a balding repper that looks like increasingly like his dad with each passing year. and yes you still age on E but aging in T primary individuals is masculinizing
is it possible for too much estrogen to become testosterone??
>>41284326>>41283674oh i didnt actually answer your main question sorry about the slightly egocentric wall of text i just wanted to explain how it wont necessarily alienate you from your family and that regret is pretty much inevitableas for reversibility i would just treat it as a permanent decision, infertility is incredibly likely and not consistently reversible, and the boobs don't go away for the most part. your T levels might not recover to baseline and you may or may not need to get on TRT depending on whether or not your quality of life is affected by your new baseline. everything else is reversible
>>41283444checkednah 5mg of ev is fine. im taking 10mg of ev every 5 days cause im tall and fat and need that dose for it to do anything. no adverse effects, except i get noticeably more depressed on the day before injection, but thats expected.
>>41284353i asked chatgpt and apparently its not possible, phew
>>41279782idk about endogest but yeah 200mg progesterone taken rectally is fine
got my blood results back from my doctor and they are saying they are bad. can someone here tell me if these are reasonable? I feel like low levels are expected because of when i got the blood drawnbloods were taken a week after my injection and I did my next dose an hour or two after I got blood drawn. I usually do 0.12ml of a 40mg/ml estradiol valerate monotherapy Estradiol 55 pg/mL Testosterone 13 ng/dL
>>41286859EV has a short half-life so that explains why your trough estradiol is pretty low, try switching to injecting every 5 days instead of once a week maybe
I have lost all ability to inject myself. I've been doing it for the past year and a half and now all of the sudden I have no energy to do so. All I can think about is how it's going to hurt initially and also have a dull pain the next few days...I'm back on E monotherapy pills until I can psyche myself up again. I don't know why it's so hard to do the thing I've been doing for a long time.
>>41270483i've asked before and got no answer so i'll ask again to see if anyone can help me my doctor made me a gel compound of EEn and says that 4 doses = 20mg of estrogen. haven't done any blood test yet because i just started any idea what a proper dosage would be? should i be doing it every day?
does subq and im have any differences besides how deep the needle goes? like does one or the other absorb better?
i take 8mg diy een every 10 days almost for 5 months now yet i feel nothing different and see 0 change, is it possible my levels are super low or is it just over and should i increase my dose (no i cant get bloodtests)
>>41286901ty anon, I'll switch to 5 days and see how things work out. i've been on this dosage for like 3 years so I was confused to hear my doctor say my bloods were bad
I've been doing DIY for a year without blood tests. How fucked am I? I do 50mg bica/day and 2mg transdermal e every 8 hours. I want to start doing blood tests though, should I stop for a little bit to bring my levels down? also how do i find a doctor, and will it be obvious what im doing with the blood tests? what will I tell/ask them????
>>41288003afaik im absorbs better and you can inject larger quantity therebut both works fine and subq is less scary
>>41288003IM is supposed to have better uptake but afaik subq should be good for most people anyway, however if you think subq isn't working well enough you should try im.How do I get bica in the Netherlands? is there any provider selling bica from within the eu? ive been reading that customs here seizes stuff from abroad pretty often so i dont think i could even get it at all from outside the eu
any1 aware if otk ph is delivering within brazil? heard some stuff a year ago, but dunno if something changedmight just bite the bullet and get vials from astro desu
>>41288714não infelizmente. astrovials is the one trannies here are ordering from now :(
>>41288791ouch.. 500 reais for a single vial.. still better than nothing, ty!
>>41283674HRT is not for you Anon, don't take it. You WILL grow breasts and you WILL lose your dick function, and they're both permanent.Captcha confirms: TRaNsgender hormones? Just Vorget it.
>>41284775Is anyone else starting to suspect that ChatGPT is part of the reason this gen isn't so active anymore?
>>41287137Did you try different injection sites to fins a comfy one that you know isn't going to hurt? Also your needles are smaller than 28g, right?
>>41289822I inject on the side of the thigh subq, rotating legs every week. It's exactly the same spot basically that I do it on each thigh area... It has a weird texture sometimes.
got blood tests and my E is kind of high. What dosage should i change to?? I live in brazil and buy hrt ampoules so the less doses needed the better.Estradiol = 455 pg/mLTestosterone = 14 ng/dLFSH = 0.30 mUI/mLcurrent dosage is 5mg Een per week
>>41289822also yeah i have drawing needle and a 27g needle for injecting
>>41291649>ampoulesare you talking about perlutan? are you taking half ampoule per week?is kinda high ok but not thaaat much, did you take the bloodtests at through? the morning of the day you should inject it? if so, you could try going 0.4ml per week?
>>41291831yea perlutan, 455 is at through so my fear is that it is way higher at peak levels, and i didn't develop much after going from pills to perlutan so it checks out. im gonna try 0.4 but i may not get blood tests in a while since my endo didnt do a new receipt...
>>41287137you could try to use an autoinjector but they're kind of pricey. i for myself actually can't even make myself press the button because of how scared of needles i am so i ended up eventually doing it manually after literally 4 days of trying, but you're probably not me so it might work for you.also try numbing the injection site by melting an ice cube on it until you don't feel the needle entering the first layer of skin anymore
>>41291649If you are doing monotherapy, you are fine If you are taking T blockers, your e2 levels are very high, they should be between 100 and 200 pg/ml
>>41292746she's taking perlutan which is EEn + DHPA (algestone acetophenide, a progestin)
>>41288201anyone...?
>>41293928you could try an AA like bicayou might be naturally high testosterone (u can have high T and not show signs btw receptor sensitivity is a thing) or just have elevated levels of certain enzymes that are related to metabolizing certain hormones, either way E alone isn't going to cut it for monotherapy in your casea lot of people start with injections and an AA then drop the AA eventually though do ur own research ofcless likely scenario is some kind of estrogen insensitivity but this is very rare
Do I start dutasteride for my hair?I doubt there is any loss since i started injections but i want my widows peak to not exist and be filled if possibleI know the best bet is transplant but lets hope right?
>>41293458does algestone actually nukes T though? i thought it was too weak as a progestin>>41292746my prolactin is at 65 though so im scared of getting a tumor
can i still be an alcoholic on bica? i'm nowhere near being able to get tests done
tell me if i got this right. 3 2mg progynova pills split through the day, and 25 mg of cypro before bed. does this sound about correct? and i'm supposed to be swallowing the progynova right, not dissolving it? anything i'm missing?
>>41295740PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE somebody say something.
>>41295740>>41295982you can either swallow or let the pills dissolve below your tongue, the latter being better. 25mg of cypro daily is too much. do at max 12.5mg daily and in the future you will be able to do 12.5mg every other day
>>41296001okay thank you. it's just that in one of the OP links it said that you were supposed to dissolve estrofem and swallow progynova, so i thought they worked differently? so i can dissolve both? also how do i even take 12.5, do i really have to split the pill into 4? do i do it with a knife or something?
i try to look up stuff in the archives to avoid asking dumb questions but could someone elaborate on this? i'm like 18 months on hrt and lighheadedness and fatigue have been problems the whole timeim on 0.2 ml weekly injections and 25 mg bica
>>41296082a pill need to be micronized to be taken sublingual, and afaik progynova is micronizedhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharmacokinetics_of_estradiol#Sublingual_administration>Oral micronized estradiol valerate tablets can be taken sublingually as well.[167][168] The administration of 2 mg oral micronized estradiol valerate tablets (Progynova, Schering) sublingually 3 or 4 times per day resulted in circulating estradiol levels of about 290 pg/mL to 460 pg/mL in premenopausal women (time of measurements not given).>>41296274how are you levels on your bloodtests? you should really check it
>>41296082>so i can dissolve both? also how do i even take 12.5, do i really have to split the pill into 4? do i do it with a knife or something?put the pills below your tongue and let it dissolve thereregarding cypro, just buy a pill cutter/splitter in a drugstore, they're cheap and works very well to split those pills into 4 pieces
>>41270483is there validity to starting with a lower dose for 1-3 months?
