has anyone here read picrel? i've just finished chapter 5 (on terfs and the UK) and i just can't take it as seriously as i feel i should. this is the first thing i've read by Butler and the first book i've ever read on social issues, so maybe thinking about it the wrong way and don't know what i'm talking about, but the arguments in this book just seem...weak. especially in this most recent chapter, wherein among other things it seems like they deliberately misinterpret JK Rowling's fear that just any man will be given carte blanche to say he's a woman and traipse into, like, women's restrooms, or whatever, if trans women are legally allowed to do so themselves. which, uninformed, is a pretty valid fear, i think. obviously there she's implicitly advocating for policies that would endanger trans women, but instead of talking about that, Butler's argument is that Rowling is calling all trans women men, and saying that we're dangerous. which is certainly something she is openly saying today, and may have believed at the time of writing that, but it's literally not what she said. and if Judith Butler wanted to argue against that perspective, they've got plenty of material to dig through on xitter. i'm rambling bc i just read this and the thoughts are fresh in my brain but this sort of thing just seems to be all over the book. i had a preconception before reading that Butler was the best around for this sort of thing, but i'm really disappointed tbdesu. i'd like to know if anybody else feels similarly (about this or other things they have written).>tl;dr: is Judith Butler a hack? surely i am just stupid, right?
>>41278743I think it’s difficult, because that terf argument is itself a confusion of protecting women from men and protecting women from trans women. I’d say the difficulty of understanding the terf perspective - something that I’d agree Butler falls prey to in this book - is precisely why terf rhetoric is so effective. Like any fascist ideology, it thrives on its own inconsistencies, and in the confusion the only distinct feeling left is a very obvious distrust and dislike of trans women. It’s an emotive argument masquerading as a logical one, which makes any critique difficult.
i am not reading this woke shit
>>41278797Can you read?
>>41278827no i have dyslexia
>>41278846oh, I’m sorry
>>41278879Its ogeybvmp
>>41278790this is something they acknowledge a bunch in the book, though, which sort of makes it weirder to me. like, to be conscious of that and then not look more deeply into it. unless i'm completely misunderstanding. at various points throughout the book so far it seems, anyways, like Butler dismisses a lot of stuff as just nonsensical, which is fair, i guess, since a good bit of it is, but i feel like there are a lot of missed opportunities for a thorough dismantling of the ideas presented>>41278797you don't have to my whole post is sort of asking whether it's worth it to read lole
>>41278936Have you thought about writing that? I’d read it
>>41278743If you're low IQ enough to think TERF arguments have any real points then you're too low IQ for theory.
